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Too Poor for Grass
05-15-2008, 02:09 PM
Hello.

I was wondering whether you guys might help me put together the definitive chronology for the "Jack Kramer" Pro Staff line. I want to get this right.

My knowledge is very sporadic, so please chime in by putting the following racquets in the correct order, starting from earliest and going to most recent. If any racquets are missing, please add them. I have amassed the following list from memory.

(1) The Jack Kramer Pro Staff
(2) The Chicago Pro Staff 110
(3) The Chicago Pro Staff 125
(4) The Chicago Pro Staff "midsize," i.e., the 85
(5) The St. Vincent 110, 125, and 85.
(6) The Taiwan Pro Staff midsize 85
(7) The Taiwan Pro Staff 95
(8) The renamed Pro Staff "6.0" 85
(9) The renamed Pro Staff "6.0"
(10) The Pro Staff 6.1 Classic
(11) The Pro Staff Tour 90 and 95
(12) The Hyper Pro Staff ?
(13) The n-six-one Tour 90 and 95
(14) The K-factor Tour 90 and 95.

BreakPoint
05-15-2008, 02:12 PM
I don't believe the PS 6.0 95 was ever made in Taiwan. I believe they only started making them after production was moved to China.

Too Poor for Grass
05-15-2008, 02:14 PM
I don't believe the PS 6.0 95 was ever made in Taiwan. I believe they only started making them after production was moved to China.

I believe the 95 debuted in 1994. So if you're correct, the last Taiwanese racquets were made before then.

Was the 95 introduced as the midplus, or did it debut as the 6.0 95?

BreakPoint
05-15-2008, 02:30 PM
I believe the 95 debuted in 1994. So if you're correct, the last Taiwanese racquets were made before then.

Was the 95 introduced as the midplus, or did it debut as the 6.0 95?
That's right, production moved from Taiwan to China in 1994.

The PS 6.0 95 always has had the word "MIDPLUS" on the side of the frame, but the earlier versions had "95 SQ. IN." stamped on the inside of the hoop around the 5 o'clock position, while the later versions changed that to "MIDPLUS" stamped in the same location.

BTW, aren't #8 and #9 on your list above the same thing?

samster
05-15-2008, 02:33 PM
(10) The Pro Staff 6.1 Classic


The shoulder breaker. For me, at least.

Too Poor for Grass
05-15-2008, 02:53 PM
That's right, production moved from Taiwan to China in 1994.

The PS 6.0 95 always has had the word "MIDPLUS" on the side of the frame, but the earlier versions had "95 SQ. IN." stamped on the inside of the hoop around the 5 o'clock position, while the later versions changed that to "MIDPLUS" stamped in the same location.

BTW, aren't #8 and #9 on your list above the same thing?

Yes, same. Number 9 should be followed by "95." I wish I could edit it.

stormholloway
05-15-2008, 03:53 PM
Well the name Pro Staff first appeared with the Jack Kramer Pro Staff, but the Autograph was clearly the forefather.

hawaiirgv
05-15-2008, 04:39 PM
there is a jack kramer autograph midsize wood racquet that belongs somewhere in there as well

Too Poor for Grass
05-15-2008, 05:38 PM
Well the name Pro Staff first appeared with the Jack Kramer Pro Staff, but the Autograph was clearly the forefather.

Here's the updated list:

(1) The Jack Kramer "Autograph"
(2) The Jack Kramer Pro Staff
(2) The Chicago Pro Staff 110
(3) The Chicago Pro Staff 125
(4) The Chicago Pro Staff "midsize," i.e., the 85
(5) The St. Vincent 110, 125, and 85.
(6) The Taiwan Pro Staff midsize 85
(7) The renamed chinese Pro Staff "6.0" 85
(8) The renamed Chinese Pro Staff "6.0" 95
(9) The Pro Staff 6.1 Classic
(10) The Pro Staff Tour 90 and 95
(11) The Hyper Pro Staff ?
(12) The n-six-one Tour 90 and 95
(13) The K-factor Tour 90 and 95


Can anyone supply definitive information about the order in which the various headsizes were made during the early 80s? I originally thought that the 85 was first, but I've since learned that Wilson made the 110--and perhaps the 125?--before it.