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tennismonster
06-10-2008, 08:20 PM
so the new pure storm limited finally has a spot on the tw website, but when do you think they will actually start selling it?

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCBAB-BPSLTD.html

kobe3pointer
06-10-2008, 08:21 PM
Grip/Head Size Availability In Stock
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. Mid+ (1/8) Yes
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. Mid+ (1/4) 4+
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. Mid+ (3/8) 4+
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. Mid+ (1/2) 4+
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. Mid+ (5/8) 4+

They are selling them right now from the looks of it..

tennismonster
06-10-2008, 08:22 PM
its not showing up on my cpu

kobe3pointer
06-10-2008, 08:23 PM
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/OrderProduct.html?PCODE=BPSLTD

tennismonster
06-10-2008, 08:23 PM
thats alot better ty

djokster
06-10-2008, 08:29 PM
It's finally here!!!!!!!

And after how many delays???

Is anyone other than me not able to see the specs on the racquet?

Ryoma Kun
06-10-2008, 08:33 PM
that string pattern looks damn dense... is it 18x20!?!?

tennismonster
06-10-2008, 09:57 PM
i cant see it on my computer either

BreakPoint
06-10-2008, 10:12 PM
that string pattern looks damn dense... is it 18x20!?!?
Yes, it is.

don_nguyen11490
06-10-2008, 10:22 PM
I don't see any racket specs?

jetlee2k
06-10-2008, 11:28 PM
I can not see the specs either.. I thought it was me..

Jimmyt
06-11-2008, 12:31 AM
looks pretty thin , which is nice... anyone know 17, 18 mm?

BreakPoint
06-11-2008, 02:57 AM
I don't see any racket specs?
They just came in today so they haven't had a chance to string a bunch of them up so they can measure the specs yet.

JediMindTrick
06-11-2008, 08:59 AM
Is this another Pro Tour 630 wannabe?

Zhou
06-11-2008, 09:19 AM
I don't know, it could be. I bought my already. Comes Friday.

gsharma
06-11-2008, 09:39 AM
I don't know, it could be. I bought my already. Comes Friday.

Hey Zhou,
question for you man. Have you hit with this racquet yet? If so, how does it feel? The reason I'm asking you is because I've been demoing racquets for a while now and this is one racquet I'd like to demo but it seems like no one will have it for another 2 weeks (which is way too long). To give a little background, I'm a 4.0 all court-player with a semi-western forehand, 1hbh and I like to take aggressive swings. I'm looking for a racquet around 95-100 sq in, 11.8oz or so, 8-9 pts HL and flexible. Sounds like this racquet would fit the bill.

So far, I'm down to these three racquets in my search: Babolat Pure Storm, Kblade 98 and Prince Diablo MP. Any idea how the Limited compares to these three?

Thanks a lot!

Zhou
06-11-2008, 09:54 AM
It comes Friday if everything goes as planned. TW is going to string it up with Klip Legend 18 at 60 lbs.

Nellie
06-11-2008, 10:38 AM
Is this another Pro Tour 630 wannabe?

I am a cynic, but I actually think this racquet, like the kBlade tour, is for Babalot to sign Head players to play with the Prestige with a Baboloat paint job.

When you get down to it, pure players racquets don't sell.

Pro_Tour_630
06-11-2008, 10:46 AM
Is this another Pro Tour 630 wannabe?
well yes in a way from Dunlop Rev 200G, MW200G, HM 200G, Mfil 200G, AG200G, Head iprestige MP, LM prestige MP, FXP prestige MP, MG prestige MP, Wislon Nblade and Kblade, Pro Kennex type C , Redondo MP, Major bullet, Tfight 325/335, topspin, Caymon etc.................why not babolat?

Pro_Tour_630
06-11-2008, 10:52 AM
I am a cynic, but I actually think this racquet, like the kBlade tour, is for Babalot to sign Head players to play with the Prestige with a Baboloat paint job.

When you get down to it, pure players racquets don't sell.

Bingo........................

Pro_Tour_630
06-11-2008, 10:55 AM
It comes Friday if everything goes as planned. TW is going to string it up with Klip Legend 18 at 60 lbs.

Zhou, TW stringers string too tight and this Klip 18g strings tight as is, on this dense MP/MID it is going to play like a log. I would recommend 50lbs TRUST ME.

gsharma
06-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Just saw the specs on this thing, as posted by TW. A swingweight of 305 - wow, that's pretty low. I'm guessing this stick will need significant amount of lead to get that swingweight up. Plus, based on the posts here, I was under the impression that it's a 18x20 not a 16x20.

For those of you who have hit with this stick, how does it compare to Pure Storm or Pure Storm Tour?

Thanks.

SlapShot
06-11-2008, 11:25 AM
Really intruiging frame. They list it as a 16x20, and that weight and flex looks like it'd be an OK hit.

LafayetteHitter
06-11-2008, 11:25 AM
Zhou, TW stringers string too tight and this Klip 18g strings tight as is, on this dense MP/MID it is going to play like a log. I would recommend 50lbs TRUST ME.

They string above the desired tension you mean?

StunLock
06-11-2008, 11:36 AM
wow..... a flexible frame with such a low sw and a dense string pattern.... it must be REally low-powered.

nn
06-11-2008, 12:00 PM
weird looking spec and so does new frame from Dunlop 100

looks like they are following each other with -1 in every department..

LafayetteHitter
06-11-2008, 12:04 PM
These are both in line with the cult following Asian spec mid frames from Wilson.

Zhou
06-11-2008, 12:09 PM
Zhou, TW stringers string too tight and this Klip 18g strings tight as is, on this dense MP/MID it is going to play like a log. I would recommend 50lbs TRUST ME.

I trust you but I probably won't get to hit with it until Monday and have a couple tournaments coming up so I won't be playing with it for almost 2 maybe 3 weeks.

SlapShot
06-11-2008, 12:12 PM
I trust you but I probably won't get to hit with it until Monday and have a couple tournaments coming up so I won't be playing with it for almost 2 maybe 3 weeks.

Want to lend it to me for a week or two? ;)

gsharma
06-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Want to lend it to me for a week or two? ;)

Zhou and Slapshot, where do you guys play in MSP? I used to live there until November last year. Btw, TW won't release a demo of this stick for a while. Apparently, they want the initial wave to go to people who buy the stick based on the spec.

LafayetteHitter
06-11-2008, 12:17 PM
TW posted that there will be demos available next week. They simply rushed to get these on the site for sale since many posters were getting impatient.

SlapShot
06-11-2008, 12:17 PM
Zhou and Slapshot, where do you guys play in MSP? I used to live there until November last year. Btw, TW won't release a demo of this stick for a while. Apparently, they want the initial wave to go to people who buy the stick based on the spec.

I play out of Baseline primarily during the winter, and spend a lot of time at St. Kate's and St. Paul Academy during the outdoor time.

Zhou
06-11-2008, 12:19 PM
I live in Woodbury. I play at Wooddale and at Fred Wells.

Zhou
06-11-2008, 12:26 PM
Want to lend it to me for a week or two? ;)

We will see. Only time will tell.

mdjenders
06-11-2008, 01:30 PM
wow, this one looks like a GREAT frame to customize (as with the AG100). A little lead here and there, and you have a nice players stick with a perfect weight distribution that YOU create. paintjob looks nice also.

Zhou
06-11-2008, 01:31 PM
It even tells you where to put the lead tape!

Thor
06-11-2008, 01:35 PM
I thought it was gonna be an 18 Main racquet,specs show a 16X20.
Too bad it has such a low swingweight

f1 tech
06-11-2008, 01:43 PM
The specs are very close to the TFight 320, very close. Also, the head shape reminds me Volkl's. It's definitely a sweet looking racquet!

itsstephenyo
06-11-2008, 01:43 PM
I thought it was gonna be an 18 Main racquet,specs show a 16X20.
Too bad it has such a low swingweight

Hmm. I wonder why it says 16x20. The pictures show 18 mains.

Zhou
06-11-2008, 01:52 PM
I think it is there mistake. The Stringing Info is wrong as well because the mains end at the throat so it would be a 2 piece.

itsstephenyo
06-11-2008, 02:30 PM
I think it is there mistake. The Stringing Info is wrong as well because the mains end at the throat so it would be a 2 piece.

I think they might've taken the info from the old Pure Storms.

Zhou
06-11-2008, 03:07 PM
I think they might've taken the info from the old Pure Storms.

They might have.

BreakPoint
06-11-2008, 05:02 PM
These are both in line with the cult following Asian spec mid frames from Wilson.
I think you might be right. :)

BreakPoint
06-11-2008, 05:04 PM
I just posted this in the TW Questions forum but I thought I'd post it here as well:

A 11.8oz. racquet that's 8 pts. HL, with a 18x20 string pattern and a swingweight of only 305? And I thought TW's measured swingweights have been running on the high side recently compared to what you feel in actual play?

I can't wait to read the TW review and see what numerical rating they give to the power. Could it be one of the lowest ever tested? Based on the specs, I wonder if this thing has any power at all? :confused:

Anyone that has played with this racquet want to chime in on its power level compared to other racquets? The only reason I'm interested in this racquet is to gain a little more power.

DonBot
06-11-2008, 07:53 PM
that swing weight of 305 has to be wrong. What other 11.5+ oz racquet has anything below 320? Even the kblade tour which has an identical weight and balance has a 323. I am guessing it is 325 and someone just made a mistake! I just can not wrap my mind around a near 12 oz raquet having a sw of 300.


But even at that it may have a little more pop than other sticks! That babolat name alone adds 20 mph to any shot you hit LOL- well that or it could be the woofers!

Has anyone hit with the pure storm limited and the kblade tour? How do they compare?

BreakPoint
06-11-2008, 08:08 PM
that swing weight of 305 has to be wrong. What other 11.5+ oz racquet has anything below 320?
How about these?

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCTFUSA-T32016.html

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCDUNLOP-DAG100.html

StunLock
06-11-2008, 09:25 PM
USRSA's spec:

SW 296
flex 58
Power level 1631

For reference, PST's power level is 2089.

Harry_Wild
06-11-2008, 11:38 PM
Here a brief description of the Pure Storm LTD from product catalog that I have:

PURE STORM LTD.
Head Size: 95
Length: 27
Weight: 11.3 oz.
Retail: $180
The new Pure Storm Ltd. is a no-nonsense throwback frame designed to meet the needs of experienced players with long, loopy strokes. Experts capable of generating their own power will appreciate its accuracy and stability. Packaged with Babolat’s Carbon Xtrem and Woofer technologies, this traditional, thin-beamed wonder will boost your confidence when it comes to smacking down-the-line winners and picking the corners. “Spot-on shots and stability for all-out, all-court control freaks.”

Hope this description is helpful above.

jayserinos99
06-12-2008, 12:55 AM
How about these?

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCTFUSA-T32016.html

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCDUNLOP-DAG100.html

Another one to add is the Volkl Tour 10 VE mid with a 12.2oz strung weight and 318sw. However I also fall into the boat of someone at TW mistyping the sw on the PS Ltd and now that I look at it the TF 320. 305sw is very light...

The stock specs of the PS Ltd look interesting however...esp. the 62 flex.

BreakPoint
06-12-2008, 01:19 AM
Another one to add is the Volkl Tour 10 VE mid with a 12.2oz strung weight and 318sw. However I also fall into the boat of someone at TW mistyping the sw on the PS Ltd and now that I look at it the TF 320. 305sw is very light...

The stock specs of the PS Ltd look interesting however...esp. the 62 flex.

However, it looks like USRSA measured its swingweight to be even lower at only 296. Yikes! :eek:

USRSA's spec:

SW 296
flex 58
Power level 1631

For reference, PST's power level is 2089.

jayserinos99
06-12-2008, 01:29 AM
How does the USRSA measure swingweight and how does it differ from how TW measures swingweight? 296 seems awfully low if it's in stock strung form. Maybe I'm used to seeing swingweights go from 300-340 from TW format and it's probably just an apples and oranges issue.

BreakPoint
06-12-2008, 01:45 AM
How does the USRSA measure swingweight and how does it differ from how TW measures swingweight? 296 seems awfully low if it's in stock strung form. Maybe I'm used to seeing swingweights go from 300-340 from TW format and it's probably just an apples and oranges issue.
Well, here's the complete list for 2008: http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/issues/200804/200804racquet_list.html

It looks like they also rated the SW of the Pure Storm Tour to be 328 and the K90 to be 331, both of which are fairly close to TW's measurements.

l_gonzalez
06-12-2008, 01:55 AM
Im seriously considering changing from my Pure Drives (no cortex) to the Pure Storm Limited.

Is it a massive change going from 100 sq. in 16x19 to 95sq. in 18x20? Another thing that concerns me is the change in weight, 35 grams is quite substantial. I am looking for a slightly heavier racquet with a classic feel (I played Prestige Tours 630 for 5 years) and the Pure Storm Ltd seems to have the right specs.

Any thoughts?

jayserinos99
06-12-2008, 02:02 AM
Just based on an estimated swingweight calculator from an excel spreadsheet, I plugged in the specs from the list and it came up with a 321sw. Either way, with 11.8oz and 8pt HL balance, it shouldn't be too much of a log to swing which intrigues me...along with the 62 flex.

jayserinos99
06-12-2008, 02:05 AM
Im seriously considering changing from my Pure Drives (no cortex) to the Pure Storm Limited.

Is it a massive change going from 100 sq. in 16x19 to 95sq. in 18x20? Another thing that concerns me is the change in weight, 35 grams is quite substantial. I am looking for a slightly heavier racquet with a classic feel (I played Prestige Tours 630 for 5 years) and the Pure Storm Ltd seems to have the right specs.

Any thoughts?

Do you mean the Pro Tour 630? I think there's definitely going to be a big shift going from the Pure Drive to Pure Storm Limited. First, the string pattern will change the launch angle of the ball (16 mains versus 18 mains). The weight is also big too but more importantly, the flex will play a big factor. Babolats are generally stiff feeling and a 62 flex in a Babolat frame is a first for me.

Automatix
06-12-2008, 02:07 AM
Im seriously considering changing from my Pure Drives (no cortex) to the Pure Storm Limited.

Is it a massive change going from 100 sq. in 16x19 to 95sq. in 18x20? Another thing that concerns me is the change in weight, 35 grams is quite substantial. I am looking for a slightly heavier racquet with a classic feel (I played Prestige Tours 630 for 5 years) and the Pure Storm Ltd seems to have the right specs.

Any thoughts?

Yes it would be a drastic change...

I don't understand... if the PD was good for your game why would you change to a completely different racquet.

Think about it... you're going to change from a heavier tweener frame to a control oriented stick.

Weight? There are more things to worry about that weight in this swap!

A change from a 22-25mm beam to a 19mm constant beam will be more than noticeable!

Also the difference in the density of the stringpattern will be drastic... you want to go from a bigger head size with a open string pattern to a smaller head with denser stringpattern!

If you're game fits the PS Ltd. I have NO IDEA how could you play with the PD... these two sticks are designed for different type of players.

THINK ABOUT IT!

l_gonzalez
06-12-2008, 02:30 AM
Yes it would be a drastic change...

I don't understand... if the PD was good for your game why would you change to a completely different racquet.

Think about it... you're going to change from a heavier tweener frame to a control oriented stick.

Weight? There are more things to worry about that weight in this swap!

A change from a 22-25mm beam to a 19mm constant beam will be more than noticeable!

Also the difference in the density of the stringpattern will be drastic... you want to go from a bigger head size with a open string pattern to a smaller head with denser stringpattern!

If you're game fits the PS Ltd. I have NO IDEA how could you play with the PD... these two sticks are designed for different type of players.

THINK ABOUT IT!

Thanks for your reply.

I played with Pro Tour 630's for 5 years up until like 3 years ago. then i had a really bad shoulder injury and was told that I would never play again.

However, 18 months later, having sold all my gear, i made a strong recovery and was given the all-clear to play again. I couldn't swing a heavy frame though so i needed something that would help me out. I tried out my buddy's Pure Drives, and i liked them because i could hit from the back of the court and hit my serves without putting too much strain on my arm.

However i always felt a lack of feel and touch on my shots, especially sliced backhand, volleys and drop shots.

Now that my shoulder is 100% again i feel like I could benefit from a more control orientated racquet that will reward me for taking full swings at the ball.

The Pure Drive allowed me to play again and rehabilitate my shoulder, now I wanna take it a step further.

To be honest though I always felt like a fraud playing with a Pure Drive, i didn't wanna be one of THEM!

Automatix
06-12-2008, 02:43 AM
Hmmm... a PD allowed you to rehabilitate your shoulder... that's something new!

Okey my 2 cents is:

If you play with heavy topspin search for something else...

Weight shoudn't be an issue because:
a) The racquet is heavier but it also is more HL.
b) The swingweight is ridiculously low.

You need to take full fluid strokes... the combination of low sw, low flex (62) and thin beam (19mm) isn't exactly the most powerful combination :)

Be sure to be 100% fit... I have a bad feeling you'll swing your arm off with this racquet...

If you play relatively flat it could be the way to go...

l_gonzalez
06-12-2008, 02:59 AM
Hmmm... a PD allowed you to rehabilitate your shoulder... that's something new!

Okey my 2 cents is:

If you play with heavy topspin search for something else...

Weight shoudn't be an issue because:
a) The racquet is heavier but it also is more HL.
b) The swingweight is ridiculously low.

You need to take full fluid strokes... the combination of low sw, low flex (62) and thin beam (19mm) isn't exactly the most powerful combination :)

Be sure to be 100% fit... I have a bad feeling you'll swing your arm off with this racquet...

If you play relatively flat it could be the way to go...

I know! The woofers seemed to work for me though, really soft.

I've found that the PD gives me too much spin and power. I have good technique and use the full weight of my body behind groundstrokes so i don't think i'll be swinging my arm off.

I might be a bit sore for a while but hopefully i can handle it. I was thinking of getting a few Prestige mid plus, but i picked one up the other day and it feels like a cheap toy, the build qulity seemed awful.

fx007
06-12-2008, 05:10 AM
This is very low power racket , that i have play with ...... but the best slice and volley ..... tommorow i tray with 3gr. lead tape on 12 h. and with syntetic grip .... leader make blisters on my hand / with babolat pure storm ltd. , other racket wilson or head with leader are OK. /

Pro_Tour_630
06-12-2008, 06:36 AM
Based on the specs, I wonder if this thing has any power at all? :confused:
It has power due to woofer if you string it in the low 50's it will have power but if you go up to 60+ it will negate the woofer effect

when I tested it felt a bit on the short side I wonder if that was my demo only but I wish they have a limited plus 27.5 so I can cut it to 27.25 and have more power than stock 27 ;-)

Zhou
06-12-2008, 06:38 AM
Hmm.. Should have thought about that.
Oh well I own a stringer so I can restring it if I need to.

l_gonzalez
06-13-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm gonna take the plunge and buy 3. I saw the racquet and held it at the French Open a couple of weeks ago but i haven't even come close to hitting with it.

Is this a totally stupid thing to do, or will my leap of faith be rewarded?

LafayetteHitter
06-13-2008, 03:23 PM
I'm gonna take the plunge and buy 3. I saw the racquet and held it at the French Open a couple of weeks ago but i haven't even come close to hitting with it.

Is this a totally stupid thing to do, or will my leap of faith be rewarded?

Perfect plan, that way if you decide you don't like them you can sell them to us at the used price.

l_gonzalez
06-13-2008, 04:07 PM
Perfect plan, that way if you decide you don't like them you can sell them to us at the used price.

If i had a way of demoing racquets, don't you think I would?

Shame for you that I live in Prague, if i don't like them i can sell them and probably make a small profit too. the cheapest i found them here is around $270 each.

Pisolino227
06-14-2008, 05:26 PM
I wonder how this stick stacks up to the pure control standard, which in my opinion is the best racquet Babolat has ever produced

Pro_Tour_630
06-15-2008, 05:00 PM
However, it looks like USRSA measured its swingweight to be even lower at only 296. Yikes! :eek:
mine came in at 301 with 16g multi at 58. If it were 17g synthetic I can see under 300SW, frame is very HL with lots of room for lead, there are labels all over the head were is says to place the lead