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bchamaki
06-26-2008, 01:42 PM
check out the butt cap. What is that cross thing on it.


http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=Tomas%20Berdych%20&src=standard#13

its the 6th picture horizontally.

- sorry I dont really know how to post pictures.

Gemini
06-26-2008, 01:45 PM
It looks like tape to cover what's on the buttcap. I suspect his got a non-Dunlop buttcap and is trying to hide it.

bchamaki
06-26-2008, 01:48 PM
At first I thought it might be lead tape. Because I've seen this kid at all the national level tournaments with something similar.

I am puzzled.

LPShanet
06-26-2008, 07:23 PM
check out the butt cap. What is that cross thing on it.


http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=Tomas%20Berdych%20&src=standard#13

its the 6th picture horizontally.

- sorry I dont really know how to post pictures.

As Gemini said, that's usually the standard way pros cover up a logo they don't want to be viewed.

Bogie
06-26-2008, 07:42 PM
berdych uses a head grip so it's likely that he's covering up the head logo on the butt cap

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
06-26-2008, 07:48 PM
So what actual racket is under the paint job???
:confused:

Bogie
06-26-2008, 08:44 PM
custom version of the dunlop revelation pro with a head grip. blake and haas also use very similar frames. the closest thing that you'll get to what they're actually using is the tecnifibre 320/335 which is the same mold (i believe tecnifibre bought that mold from dunlop)

Feņa14
06-26-2008, 08:52 PM
custom version of the dunlop revelation pro with a head grip. blake and haas also use very similar frames. the closest thing that you'll get to what they're actually using is the tecnifibre 320/335 which is the same mold (i believe tecnifibre bought that mold from dunlop)

That right? I always thought the Tecnifibre's were just based on the old Major mold's :confused: Oh well.. suppose you learn something new everyday! :)

vsbabolat
06-26-2008, 08:54 PM
berdych uses a head grip so it's likely that he's covering up the head logo on the butt cap

There is one problem with this theory. The logo on the black head butt cap for the pro's is just sticker and very easily removed.

Also Check out Thomas Muster he does the same thing and he is currently under contact with HEAD again.
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=thomas%20muster&src=standard#

counterpuncher
06-26-2008, 09:39 PM
Maybe they're racquet techs are adding lead tape to the base of the butt cap and covering it up with some white finishing tape ?

ShcMad
06-26-2008, 09:47 PM
Thomas Martinez, who strung many pros' racquets, said that it's just regular white athletic tape that was put in a cross-shape. But, he didn't say why Berdych put it there.

airdupont
06-26-2008, 10:34 PM
because dunlop sucks....my butt cap came lose from all the rackets that I've used from them

Bogie
06-26-2008, 11:35 PM
There is one problem with this theory. The logo on the black head butt cap for the pro's is just sticker and very easily removed.

Also Check out Thomas Muster he does the same thing and he is currently under contact with HEAD again.
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=thomas%20muster&src=standard#

well virtually all butt caps are very easy to remove so if he or someone at dunlop really wanted to, they could've easily removed them. the only thing is that since head has somewhat of a unique grip shape, even if they take head logo off, they still wouldn't be able to put the dunlop cap on so it leaves them with either putting tape over the head logo or just not having a logo.

Clecwm
06-27-2008, 09:21 AM
yea, besdies n head grip differ a lot from a dunlop grip which is slightly boxier.

vsbabolat
06-27-2008, 11:39 AM
well virtually all butt caps are very easy to remove so if he or someone at dunlop really wanted to, they could've easily removed them. the only thing is that since head has somewhat of a unique grip shape, even if they take head logo off, they still wouldn't be able to put the dunlop cap on so it leaves them with either putting tape over the head logo or just not having a logo.

I am sorry I don't know what point you are trying to make. What I tried to explain is I don't think the white athletic tape is there to hide the HEAD logo because it is a sticker and they will just remove it.
Thomas Muster uses white athletic tape on his HEAD racquet's butt-caps and has nothing to do with hiding the logo.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/ThomasMuster1.jpg



Tommy Haas uses Dunlop racquets with the Head pallet and Head butt-cap and just removes the Head logo sticker.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/TommyHaas4.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/TommyHaas2.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/TommyHaas3.jpg

bchamaki
06-27-2008, 03:06 PM
I dont think its the logo. At first I thought it was to cover lead tape or keep the butt-cap on tighter.

bchamaki
06-27-2008, 03:25 PM
http://http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|80522809%2c80522792%2c80522758%2c80522755%2c 80522710%2c80522685%2c80522560%2c80522559%2c805225 57%2c80522508%2c80522503%2c80522502%2c80522383%2c8 0522381%2c80522378%2c80522376%2c80522373%2c8052223 2%2c80522222%2c80522210%2c80522206%2c80522204%2c80 522203%2c80462590%2c80462586%2c80462582%2c80462450 %2c80462441%2c80462435%2c80462431%2c80462422%2c804 43438%2c80443435%2c80435435%2c80435433%2c80435431% 2c80435430%2c80435429%2c80435171%2c80435170%2c8043 5169%2c80435168%2c80103693%2c80103691%2c80103473%2 c80103250%2c80102968%2c80089219%2c80089217%2c80089 215%2c80089213%2c79965774%2c79965773%2c79965771%2c 79965770%2c79965760%2c79965746%2c79965742%2c799657 39%2c79965736|0&id=80462586

check out the picture above. This is in pacific life 2008.

http://http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|52828345%2c52828339%2c52828337%2c52797129%2c 52796714%2c52796712%2c52796709%2c52622674%2c526225 54%2c52622552%2c52622550%2c52622549%2c52276932%2c5 2276924%2c52276916%2c52276907%2c52276891%2c5227670 1%2c52276691%2c52276689%2c52276678%2c52276626%2c52 276624%2c52270774%2c52270741%2c52245396%2c52245394 %2c52005590%2c52005589%2c52005079%2c52005076%2c520 05074%2c52005044%2c52005042%2c52005036%2c52005035% 2c52004957%2c52004955%2c52004882%2c52004825%2c5200 4824%2c51356160%2c51356147%2c51356027%2c51356020%2 c81399180%2c51269797%2c51269786%2c51269719%2c51269 717%2c51269692%2c51269690%2c51269689%2c51269669%2c 51269667%2c51269666%2c51269665%2c51269664%2c512696 63%2c51269609|0&id=51269666

This is in the U.S. open 2004



I'm still puzzled. I think it might be because he's changing his racquet weight for different surfaces. That's just my two cents.

bchamaki
06-27-2008, 04:49 PM
sorry it didn't work. Here are some other pictures.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=tomas%20berdych&src=quick#24

its the Sixth picture horizantally. This picture was in 2006

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|80522809%2c80522792%2c80522758%2c80522755%2c 80522710%2c80522685%2c80522560%2c80522559%2c805225 57%2c80522508%2c80522503%2c80522502%2c80522383%2c8 0522381%2c80522378%2c80522376%2c80522373%2c8052223 2%2c80522222%2c80522210%2c80522206%2c80522204%2c80 522203%2c80462590%2c80462586%2c80462582%2c80462450 %2c80462441%2c80462435%2c80462431%2c80462422%2c804 43438%2c80443435%2c80435435%2c80435433%2c80435431% 2c80435430%2c80435429%2c80435171%2c80435170%2c8043 5169%2c80435168%2c80103693%2c80103691%2c80103473%2 c80103250%2c80102968%2c80089219%2c80089217%2c80089 215%2c80089213%2c79965774%2c79965773%2c79965771%2c 79965770%2c79965760%2c79965746%2c79965742%2c799657 39%2c79965736|0&id=80462586

this was in pacific life 2008

no_dark_things
08-25-2008, 09:14 AM
Hi everyone

I read article about Muster's racquet. It might have been a USRSA magazine though I'm not 100% sure. The stringer commented both on the incredible weight (14 some odd ounces) and the fact that the butt cap of the handle had been built up with tape and he said it resembled a then butt end of a hockey stick. I have no idea why Muster uses so much white tape at the top end of the handle though. It does look cool if nothing else.

Serpententacle
08-25-2008, 10:30 AM
Maybe it's a religious thing?

no_dark_things
08-25-2008, 12:01 PM
I forgot Muster's grip was wrapped for a righty as well.

migjam
10-11-2008, 05:26 AM
I asked Thomas this question several years ago and he does this because of the amount of torque he puts on the end of his racquet. If the grip were removed, you would also see the athletic tape strips actually go up 4 inches up the handle (helps secure the butt-cap). He then takes a his grip and wraps it two to three times at the butt cap to form a knob, which is why you also see tape at the top of the handle because the grip ends up being shorter now.

ccjta
10-12-2008, 09:55 PM
There are other pictures from the same set and different match and show Berdych's but cap has a dunlop logo.

Tennisguy777
10-24-2008, 01:28 PM
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l429/tennisguy777/4ffc_0.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l429/tennisguy777/50a0_0.jpg

Notice how the top 2 racquets Tomas' have a different throat compared to the stock AG200 below. He is using a PJ.

http://i33.tinypic.com/121yjjm.jpg

Tennisguy777
10-24-2008, 01:54 PM
The throat of Tomas' racquet picture is very similar to the pic below of the Tecnifibre. The stock AG200 doesn't have grooves (it's flat) where the two beams meet the face of racquet at 5 and 7 o'clocks.

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l429/tennisguy777/325XVO-2.jpg

Leading to the assertion that he's using the same mold as James Blake and others.

kumat63
10-24-2008, 03:53 PM
I wouldn't make a big deal of the pro's butt caps. I've got a few Head frames off their pro line and they have plain black butt caps with a (very cheap) Head logo sticker. I think it's because the frames come bare from the factory and grip pallets are added (along with butt caps) by a racquet tech. If you notice in the photo above, most all of them have plain black butt caps--seems to be the standard issue...

vsbabolat
10-24-2008, 04:35 PM
I wouldn't make a big deal of the pro's butt caps. I've got a few Head frames off their pro line and they have plain black butt caps with a (very cheap) Head logo sticker. I think it's because the frames come bare from the factory and grip pallets are added (along with butt caps) by a racquet tech. If you notice in the photo above, most all of them have plain black butt caps--seems to be the standard issue...

The plain black butt cap with a HEAD Logo sticker is what HEAD used to use on the consumer racquets for decades. Over the years HEAD has had various designs on the Sticker for the butt cap .



Here is what the sticker on the HEAD butt cap looked like in 1982.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/AMFHEAD_EdgeWood.jpg

Tennisguy777
10-24-2008, 07:03 PM
while we're on the subjet this guy on $bay is selling supposedly Tomas Berdych racquets. Are these legit? I asked for more pics and he has about 4 sticks. Also the specs he gave were 289 grams unstrung and 4 1/4 grip and 27.25 length! No head size mention!

http://cgi.*********/DUNLOP-AEROGEL-200-TOMAS-BERDYCH-customize_W0QQitemZ110303534728QQcmdZViewItem?hash =item110303534728&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

rosen88
10-25-2008, 01:19 AM
I have played with Berdych's racket. It is a soft and flexy racket. Kind of like the PT630 but softer. Weight: around 355 unstrung. Balance: almost even, little headlight. Head shape: a little bit more like a HEAD than an Aerogel. Length: Could be a little bit longer.
I play future tournaments and one guys I met had Berdych's racket that is why I have tried it and seen the sticker on the racket with the weight, balance and more. And ofcourse it says on the frame NO AEROGEL.

ART ART
10-25-2008, 12:12 PM
I have played with Berdych's racket. It is a soft and flexy racket. Kind of like the PT630 but softer. Weight: around 355 unstrung. Balance: almost even, little headlight. Head shape: a little bit more like a HEAD than an Aerogel. Length: Could be a little bit longer.
I play future tournaments and one guys I met had Berdych's racket that is why I have tried it and seen the sticker on the racket with the weight, balance and more. And ofcourse it says on the frame NO AEROGEL.

Can you post what info was on the sticker? (weight, balance and more..)

Thank's

Azzurri
10-25-2008, 01:13 PM
because dunlop sucks....my butt cap came lose from all the rackets that I've used from them

because of their butt caps??:confused::shock:

ccjta
10-25-2008, 05:38 PM
I have played with Berdych's racket. It is a soft and flexy racket. Kind of like the PT630 but softer. Weight: around 355 unstrung. Balance: almost even, little headlight. Head shape: a little bit more like a HEAD than an Aerogel. Length: Could be a little bit longer.
I play future tournaments and one guys I met had Berdych's racket that is why I have tried it and seen the sticker on the racket with the weight, balance and more. And ofcourse it says on the frame NO AEROGEL.

Why would Dunlop paint a racquet to look like an Aerogel and then print "NO AEROGEL" on the frame? Doesn't make sense, does it? Why would they pay Berdych money to use an Aerogel frame and then print "NO AEROGEL" on it????

ccjta
10-25-2008, 05:40 PM
because of their butt caps??:confused::shock:

The butt caps don't suck! The butt caps on all companies racquet come loose because they use staples into the pallet. The staples come loose, it's not a faulty butt cap!

rosen88
10-26-2008, 01:18 AM
Can you post what info was on the sticker? (weight, balance and more..)

Thank's

I played with the racket in june so I don't remember exactly but I think the sticker said around 355 grams, almost even balanced, 27" or 27,25" but not longer and the head shape is not the same as the aerogels its more HEAD-like. That is all I know.

rosen88
10-26-2008, 01:20 AM
Why would Dunlop paint a racquet to look like an Aerogel and then print "NO AEROGEL" on the frame? Doesn't make sense, does it? Why would they pay Berdych money to use an Aerogel frame and then print "NO AEROGEL" on it????

Sorry I did not make it clear to you before. It was the sticker that said NO AEROGEL not the painting on the racket.

Azzurri
10-26-2008, 04:03 PM
The butt caps don't suck! The butt caps on all companies racquet come loose because they use staples into the pallet. The staples come loose, it's not a faulty butt cap!

try not to hurt yourself. I was being sarcastic. you missed that.

By the way..never, ever had a problem with a butt cap.

ilian
11-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Maybe it's a religious thing?

Hahahaha, I am on my back laughing...:twisted:

Fedace
08-21-2009, 08:27 PM
OK So Which Aerogel is Berdych really Using ??????? Did he switch to 4D aerogel or not ?????????????

vsbabolat
08-21-2009, 08:34 PM
OK So Which Aerogel is Berdych really Using ??????? Did he switch to 4D aerogel or not ?????????????

He is not using any Aerogel.......

NickC
08-21-2009, 08:43 PM
OK So Which Aerogel is Berdych really Using ??????? Did he switch to 4D aerogel or not ?????????????

You revived a dead thread that's almost a year old just to ask that? Read the damn thread, you twit. A person here has hit with his frame, and says it's a custom frame. There are pictures confirming his claims. You're just too stupid to see that.

mrmo1115
08-21-2009, 08:45 PM
custom version of the dunlop revelation pro with a head grip. blake and haas also use very similar frames. the closest thing that you'll get to what they're actually using is the tecnifibre 320/335 which is the same mold (i believe tecnifibre bought that mold from dunlop)

Which 320/325? The new ones right now w/ the VO2? Or the older ones? Really wanted to switch to the 320 older version... stupid Tec switching up specs on the new 320 :twisted:

AKB
08-21-2009, 11:07 PM
Which 320/325? The new ones right now w/ the VO2? Or the older ones? Really wanted to switch to the 320 older version... stupid Tec switching up specs on the new 320 :twisted:

If you want to use the same mold as those guys or the old 320, you're holding it with your AG 4D 300 Tour.

mrmo1115
08-22-2009, 03:50 PM
If you want to use the same mold as those guys or the old 320, you're holding it with your AG 4D 300 Tour.

Wow thats great to hear. Never heard that before, but I knew that the 300 tour is a racquet that seems to fit me.

AKB, do you use the old or new 320

mantennis
05-31-2011, 02:55 PM
Berdych uses a Head TGK 260.2 ytk rdcl mp 16x19. I actually have one from him.

Doubles
05-31-2011, 03:28 PM
Berdych uses a Head TGK 260.2 ytk rdcl mp 16x19. I actually have one from him.

Pics or it didn't happen...

mantennis
05-31-2011, 05:32 PM
Here we go, I did take off all his lead though.
http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa392/danny5995/

ART ART
05-31-2011, 05:58 PM
Here we go, I did take off all his lead though.
http://http://sz0170.ev.mail.comcast.net/service/home/~/2011-05-31_19-31-40_625.jpg?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=128340&part=2
http://http://sz0170.ev.mail.comcast.net/service/home/~/2011-05-31_19-32-25_670.jpg?

Links don't work...

What's the specs for Berdych racket?

Thanks

mantennis
05-31-2011, 08:01 PM
Check the link now, it should work.
Never checked the specs because I basically reformatted it from base to then match my racquets. Sorry if the quality isn't the best.
http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa392/danny5995/

dr325i
05-31-2011, 11:08 PM
Berdych uses a Head TGK 260.2 ytk rdcl mp 16x19. I actually have one from him.

I have 5 of them...
However, 3 are customized to muy spec and cut down to 27", 2 are new, cut to 27"...
Excellent stick.

mantennis
06-01-2011, 05:26 AM
Pretty cool, where did you get them from?

dr325i
06-07-2011, 03:14 AM
Pretty cool, where did you get them from?

keep an eye open for them...when you need them...they pop up here and there -- string forum, E Bay... Down to 3 now ;)