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pow
07-22-2008, 12:37 AM
I'm interested in trying the gut main/poly cross combo soon. I need a poly that will not crap out on me too quickly. I've tried full gut in the past and it felt a little too "trampoline-y" for me. I think the poly cross would help a bit with giving me a solid stringbed to work with with. I'm a flat hitter and I've always used thin poly in my Redondo and it's worked great, Kirschbaum Pro Line II 1.15mm to be exact but now I want some more feel just for fun and see how that goes.

So basically now, I'm going to get a pack of Klip Legend 16 for the mains and I'm looking for a poly cross that has the best tension maintenance, feel, and hopefully keep its properties the best over time. I know it's wishful thinking and won't happen but I'm asking for what is best when comparing within polys.

I know polys are not good for those characteristics but I'm asking for what's good relative to other polys. I want the poly there to provide stiffness to tame the gut down from too much trampoline feeling, a little more spin, and let the strings slide back into place.

Being a flat hitter, I am not putting too much stress on my poly stringbeds so we don't have to worry about me snapping the strings in 3-4 hours like some people on these forums. This also tends to allow the strings to not go bad as quickly as it would for some other forumers.

[d]ragon
07-22-2008, 12:53 AM
the best in terms of maintainance i think was SPPP. but lux bb ace is also very nice. it lost tension quickly but was still very playable despite having gone dead.

Stan
07-22-2008, 03:59 AM
Go with the Silverstring.

5263
07-22-2008, 08:45 AM
I'm interested in trying the gut main/poly cross combo soon. I need a poly that will not crap out on me too quickly. I've tried full gut in the past and it felt a little too "trampoline-y" for me. I think the poly cross would help a bit with giving me a solid stringbed to work with with. I'm a flat hitter and I've always used thin poly in my Redondo and it's worked great, Kirschbaum Pro Line II 1.15mm to be exact but now I want some more feel just for fun and see how that goes.

So basically now, I'm going to get a pack of Klip Legend 16 for the mains and I'm looking for a poly cross that has the best tension maintenance, feel, and hopefully keep its properties the best over time. I know it's wishful thinking and won't happen but I'm asking for what is best when comparing within polys.

I know polys are not good for those characteristics but I'm asking for what's good relative to other polys. I want the poly there to provide stiffness to tame the gut down from too much trampoline feeling, a little more spin, and let the strings slide back into place.

Being a flat hitter, I am not putting too much stress on my poly stringbeds so we don't have to worry about me snapping the strings in 3-4 hours like some people on these forums. This also tends to allow the strings to not go bad as quickly as it would for some other forumers.

I just ordered Big Ace for this situation. Reports say it is so soft and powerful that you don't lower the tension like with most polys, but easy on the arm so that it doesn't matter. Just drop it 1-3lbs. Tension maintenance is supposed to be the best.

Blue gear may thrash the other string too fast, but Cyberflash is another I've ordered to try in this setup.

Booyah
07-22-2008, 11:44 AM
Iso Speed Pulse or Luxilon BB Original.

bobbyjonesrocks
07-22-2008, 01:24 PM
What's SPPP? I used to know. Thanks

Eric4
07-22-2008, 01:44 PM
signum pro poly plasma is sppp

cyber flash lasts a while too and its pretty cheap

bobbyjonesrocks
07-22-2008, 03:01 PM
thanks for the answer!

Kcraig
07-23-2008, 09:19 AM
Well my friend, you're in luck--I have been using/trying the gut mains/poly cross for a few months now all w/ Klip Legend nat gut. Started w/ 17g and now am using hte 16g gut for a little more durability. I have tried the following setups (listed from best to worse):

1. Legend 16/Cyberpower 1.25 @ 56/54-current setup and love the feel and pop with this setup. Have about 7 hrs and still looks good as new! ZERO String movement!!!
2. Legend 17/Big Ace 1.22 @ 56/54-as good as the leg/cp, but maybe just a little too much pop. I did get about 18hrs from this setup-
3. Legend 16/Cyberflash 1.25--had in a diff stick--OK but a little too tight cross for my liking.
4. Legend 17/Supex Titan syn gut @ 58/56--Pretty good, but too much string movement and control was a little lacking.
5. Legend 16/PSGD 17g @ 56--too much string movement--all over the damn place, even with stringsavers.

**I do use and highly recommend using the Bab elastocross stringsavers and it helps a ton. I use about 15-18 in the sweetspot area alternating mains.

I am also testing out a set of Big Hitter Blue in a full job to see if comparable to the Cyberpower. IF SO, I will use this as my new cross as it is only $6.95/set. The main thing I am experiencing with the gut/poly setup is the playablility. When I use a poly/multi or poly/syn gut--the poly seems to go about dead after 10hrs or the crosses snap and with the majority 80+% of the string attributes, etc...coming from the mains, the setup is dead for me. However, wtih the gut in the mains and a solid tension holding poly in cross--I can get 15-18hrs easy and it is pretty much great from start till breakage and there is NO STRING MOVEMENT!!:) Plus the Legend/Big Hitter will only come out to $16.50 per stick which is pretty damn good if you ask me--

Sorry to be so long winded--:-?

Doc Hollidae
07-24-2008, 06:38 AM
Well my friend, you're in luck--I have been using/trying the gut mains/poly cross for a few months now all w/ Klip Legend nat gut. Started w/ 17g and now am using hte 16g gut for a little more durability. I have tried the following setups (listed from best to worse):

1. Legend 16/Cyberpower 1.25 @ 56/54-current setup and love the feel and pop with this setup. Have about 7 hrs and still looks good as new! ZERO String movement!!!
2. Legend 17/Big Ace 1.22 @ 56/54-as good as the leg/cp, but maybe just a little too much pop. I did get about 18hrs from this setup-
3. Legend 16/Cyberflash 1.25--had in a diff stick--OK but a little too tight cross for my liking.
4. Legend 17/Supex Titan syn gut @ 58/56--Pretty good, but too much string movement and control was a little lacking.
5. Legend 16/PSGD 17g @ 56--too much string movement--all over the damn place, even with stringsavers.

**I do use and highly recommend using the Bab elastocross stringsavers and it helps a ton. I use about 15-18 in the sweetspot area alternating mains.

I am also testing out a set of Big Hitter Blue in a full job to see if comparable to the Cyberpower. IF SO, I will use this as my new cross as it is only $6.95/set. The main thing I am experiencing with the gut/poly setup is the playablility. When I use a poly/multi or poly/syn gut--the poly seems to go about dead after 10hrs or the crosses snap and with the majority 80+% of the string attributes, etc...coming from the mains, the setup is dead for me. However, wtih the gut in the mains and a solid tension holding poly in cross--I can get 15-18hrs easy and it is pretty much great from start till breakage and there is NO STRING MOVEMENT!!:) Plus the Legend/Big Hitter will only come out to $16.50 per stick which is pretty damn good if you ask me--

Sorry to be so long winded--:-?

Do you think Big Ace is more powerful than CP in general or was smaller gauges a factor?

Kcraig
07-24-2008, 07:18 AM
Do you think Big Ace is more powerful than CP in general or was smaller gauges a factor?

I would think it was the smaller gauge more than anything. For me CP tends to have a slightly better solid feel over BA. I also like the thicker cross as from what I can tell from some of the USSRA data, the 1.25 holds tension better than the smaller gauges. I do have a 1/2 set of red BA lying around so I may compare it next to the CP (or Big Hitter Blue):).

hoodjem
07-24-2008, 09:43 AM
Kcraig,

CP is supposed to one of the more powerful polys.

Did you also try Leg in the crosses and poly in the mains?

(I am thinking about a BAM and Klip Legend hybrid.)

Mark Vessels
07-24-2008, 10:12 AM
Kcraig,

CP is supposed to one of the more powerful polys.

Did you also try Leg in the crosses and poly in the mains?

(I am thinking about a BAM and Klip Legend hybrid.)

pro pacific reel is pretty good one,yeh the orange one

Kcraig
07-24-2008, 10:33 AM
Kcraig,

CP is supposed to one of the more powerful polys.

Did you also try Leg in the crosses and poly in the mains?

(I am thinking about a BAM and Klip Legend hybrid.)

Yeah it is powerful, but still a poly and not as much pop as syn gut. The legend is pretty low powered gut and it works well with these polys I mentioned. Also--keep in mind I am using a Tour Diablo MP which is very low powered (675 Prince power rating).

I have not used gut in the crossed and probably won't. As mentioned above, the mains are about 75-85% of the playability of the stringbed and that is why I have the gut there. I have not used BAM--heard good things about it, but that is too thin for me. Good luck:)

the Town Sherif
07-24-2008, 11:10 AM
big ace is a definite must-try as a durable yet powerful poly

pow
07-24-2008, 05:35 PM
Well my friend, you're in luck--I have been using/trying the gut mains/poly cross for a few months now all w/ Klip Legend nat gut. Started w/ 17g and now am using hte 16g gut for a little more durability. I have tried the following setups (listed from best to worse):

1. Legend 16/Cyberpower 1.25 @ 56/54-current setup and love the feel and pop with this setup. Have about 7 hrs and still looks good as new! ZERO String movement!!!
2. Legend 17/Big Ace 1.22 @ 56/54-as good as the leg/cp, but maybe just a little too much pop. I did get about 18hrs from this setup-
3. Legend 16/Cyberflash 1.25--had in a diff stick--OK but a little too tight cross for my liking.
4. Legend 17/Supex Titan syn gut @ 58/56--Pretty good, but too much string movement and control was a little lacking.
5. Legend 16/PSGD 17g @ 56--too much string movement--all over the damn place, even with stringsavers.

**I do use and highly recommend using the Bab elastocross stringsavers and it helps a ton. I use about 15-18 in the sweetspot area alternating mains.

I am also testing out a set of Big Hitter Blue in a full job to see if comparable to the Cyberpower. IF SO, I will use this as my new cross as it is only $6.95/set. The main thing I am experiencing with the gut/poly setup is the playablility. When I use a poly/multi or poly/syn gut--the poly seems to go about dead after 10hrs or the crosses snap and with the majority 80+% of the string attributes, etc...coming from the mains, the setup is dead for me. However, wtih the gut in the mains and a solid tension holding poly in cross--I can get 15-18hrs easy and it is pretty much great from start till breakage and there is NO STRING MOVEMENT!!:) Plus the Legend/Big Hitter will only come out to $16.50 per stick which is pretty damn good if you ask me--

Sorry to be so long winded--:-?

Thanks! This is exactly what I needed, I think I'll be going Big Ace since I have a pack of 1.22 laying around. Thanks for also including tension! Very helpful post.

Kcraig
07-25-2008, 06:09 AM
Thanks! This is exactly what I needed, I think I'll be going Big Ace since I have a pack of 1.22 laying around. Thanks for also including tension! Very helpful post.

That is a great 1st choice--start there and then evaluate. Do use the stringsavers--they will most definately add to the stringlife. They do add abuot 1-2# to the tension--so consider that as well. Good luck-I'll think yuo will enjoy:)

consistency wins
07-25-2008, 07:12 AM
I use thinner poly. And, Signum Pro Poly Megaforce 1.19 has lasted me pretty well. I can get three good solid weeks of playing (three to four times per week) out of the sets. Great bite on the ball, good tension maintenance, but once it is gone--it's gone. Considering the price of it--it's pretty worth it.