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nickb
08-02-2008, 12:33 PM
Got given a couple of these to try out from a friend (dunlop sponsored pro). This is the EU AG200 with a more open string pattern and different specs.

# Headsize: 95 sq in
# Weight: 312g unstrung
# Weight: 327g strung
# Balance: 320mm
# Beam Width:20mm
# String Pattern: 16x19

Have 1 strung with Big Ace 1.25 @60/57 and the other with Blue Gear 1.25 @57/54. Like the big Ace better (no suprise to me). Just wanted to string them with something I like and know works well for me.

I will try and compare this to the US AG200 where I can.

Anyway to the review...

Groundstrokes:

Pretty powerful frame. VERY spin friendly, alot of pop. The ball really goes when you centre it. Nice combination of power and control. The amount of power really surprised me. More power than my fischers and the USAG200. Great frame off the ground....couldn't find my timing at first. The SW feels very low on this thing...I was swinging too fast most of the time. I could play with this frame all day long and not get tired. Control is good and it feels great on the 1HBH. Feels very stable...no "wobble" on off centre hits....perfect combo of weight/SW.

Volleys

Nice frame around the net. Really good touch/feel. Stable. I didnt like it THAT much at the net...my fischers are better for me. I was again swinging too fast...but thats just getting used to the frame. Good frame at the net but nothing special...it gets the job done and has good feel. Better than expected.

Serves

I expected this racket to serve very well and it did. I can hit very fast/heavy serves with the AG100 and US200...this one is no different. Loads of power, spin and great control. A big weapon on the serve and very easy to place serves. Effortless is the word I would use. Comes through the contact zone very quickly. I was hitting bombs with this thing! Great serving stick.

Returns

Not the best frame for blocking back hard hit serves. I had more success taking a big swing at serves. SW makes getting to hard hit serves very easy and its very manoeuvrable. With some lead tape it might be better for blocking. This makes a good doubles frame...it allowed me to take short/quick swings are big serves and get them back with interest.

Comfort

VERY VERY comfortable frame. I felt almost no vibration even with full poly. At 62RA its great on the arm. The most comfortable frame ive used in a long time. Good job dunlop.

Build Quality

Much better than the M-Fils. Amazing paintjob...very sleek/cool. The finish is fantastic and all the frames I have used have been dead on spec. The stock grip is nice and even the factory strings play ok!

Overall

If you are looking for a players frame that is easy to use and has a low SW this is the one. Very easy to swing and effortless power *with control*. All-court players will enjoy this frame as will doubles players.

I have really enjoyed hitting these frames...obviously they are only available in the EU which is a shame...might be a chance TW could look into getting them?

Nick

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cujays
08-02-2008, 12:45 PM
thanks
why did you go back to your fishers

nickb
08-02-2008, 12:47 PM
thanks
why did you go back to your fishers

To be honest I never really switched....I still pulled them out of the bag for big matches which shows they are the closest thing to the perfect frame (for me) I am going to get.

hoodjem
08-02-2008, 12:50 PM
This is the EU AG200 with a more open string pattern and different specs.
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# Headsize: 95 sq in
# Weight: 312g unstrung
# Weight: 327g strung
# Balance: 320mm
# Beam Width:20mm
# String Pattern: 16 x 19
Here are the specs on the US AG100:
Head Size: 90 sq. in. / 581 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 11.7oz / 332g
Balance: 7pts Head Light
Swingweight: 312
Stiffness: 62
Beam Width: 19 mm Straight Beam
Composition: Graphite Multifilament / Aerogel
Power Level: Low
Swing Speed: Fast
Grip Type: Hydramax Tour
String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses

Sounds like the AG100 at 90 sq. in. is a tad heavier than the EU AG200 (16 X19).

cujays
08-02-2008, 12:53 PM
To be honest I never really switched....I still pulled them out of the bag for big matches which shows they are the closest thing to the perfect frame (for me) I am going to get.

so you had used the nblade kblade and npro open but always came back to old faithful

nickb
08-02-2008, 12:53 PM
Yeah the 100 is a tiny bit heavier...with an overgrip the 200 16x19 is about 330g.

Nick

nickb
08-02-2008, 12:54 PM
so you had used the nblade kblade and npro open but always came back to old faithful

I think its more frames than that :shock: :)

The fischers are perfect but every once in a while I have to try something different!

Nick

hoodjem
08-02-2008, 12:57 PM
Dunlop should import the EU AG200 16 X 19 to the US. Give people more choices.

meowmix
08-02-2008, 01:05 PM
Is the SW on this new AG200+ (i guess that's what dunlop calls it) similar to that of the 2006 m-fil 200+?

nickb
08-02-2008, 01:08 PM
Is the SW on this new AG200+ (i guess that's what dunlop calls it) similar to that of the 2006 m-fil 200+?

I cant say...not used that one. Its called the Aerogel 200 16x19...wasnt the 200+ extended length?

Nick

s7evin
08-02-2008, 02:21 PM
Nice...
BTW Nick saw you utube video today...
How the heck do you throw the ball on serves???
Also if you just get that left hand moving on the forehand and with that sweet backhand you'll have a beutiful game:)
Cheers, s7

nickb
08-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Nice...
BTW Nick saw you utube video today...
How the heck do you throw the ball on serves???
Also if you just get that left hand moving on the forehand and with that sweet backhand you'll have a beutiful game:)
Cheers, s7

Lol...I sort of flick it..its hard to describe...I know it needs to change. Im working on the left hand...oh and thanks!

Nick

meowmix
08-02-2008, 04:11 PM
Naw, the 2006 edition was a 97 hs, 11.4 ounce, 309 sw, 7 pt hl racket, with a 16*19 string pattern of course.

Hidious
08-02-2008, 05:18 PM
Nick, since you probably tried the AG100 too, do they play similar? Which one did you prefer?

jazar
08-03-2008, 02:31 AM
i hit with the open string pattern 200 around this time last year and it played really well, better than the standard one. don't know why dunlop dont bring it to the uk

i'm hitting with the more open string pattern 300 later today, the 16 x 18 one, but i modified it with some lead at 3 and 9, an equal amount in the handle and a leather grip

nickb
08-03-2008, 03:12 AM
Naw, the 2006 edition was a 97 hs, 11.4 ounce, 309 sw, 7 pt hl racket, with a 16*19 string pattern of course.

Oh ok...well I guess the SW is higher than that.

nickb
08-03-2008, 03:13 AM
Nick, since you probably tried the AG100 too, do they play similar? Which one did you prefer?

I think the 100 is better for my game...the power level is closer to my fischers and it volleys better. I really liked how easy the 16*19 is to swing/use and the feel is great. They have a similar sort of feel to them and both are great for spin....the AG100 feels a tiny bit more solid.

Nick

nickb
08-03-2008, 03:16 AM
i hit with the open string pattern 200 around this time last year and it played really well, better than the standard one. don't know why dunlop dont bring it to the uk

i'm hitting with the more open string pattern 300 later today, the 16 x 18 one, but i modified it with some lead at 3 and 9, an equal amount in the handle and a leather grip

I have 2 of the AG300 16x18 frames as well...MUCH better than the regular 300...more solid.

Nick

jazar
08-03-2008, 03:26 AM
I have 2 of the AG300 16x18 frames as well...MUCH better than the regular 300...more solid.

Nick

it was another frame i hit with last year, but this time i felt like making it a proper weight and balance, more like my prestiges. i think the reason dunlop dont sell that string pattern in the uk is because they think people wont be able to tell the difference between the 2 versions

nickb
08-03-2008, 03:32 AM
it was another frame i hit with last year, but this time i felt like making it a proper weight and balance, more like my prestiges. i think the reason dunlop dont sell that string pattern in the uk is because they think people wont be able to tell the difference between the 2 versions

They do sell it in the UK....*tennis* nuts has them.

jazar
08-03-2008, 03:41 AM
They do sell it in the UK....*tennis* nuts has them.

didnt realise that. but then again, i never check out those sites seeing as i work for one of their competitors

0d1n
08-03-2008, 10:45 PM
Yup... played with these quite extensively and still own 2 of them.
Good all round rackets, my only complaint would be the smallish sweet spot.
Got best results with a leather grip/overgrip and some 4-5 grams of lead in the head.
The frame turned into my best serving frame with that setup ...
Ah ... one more thing ... I have found it to play slightly firmer than the stated 62 RA (my Tour 10's feel softer and they are supposed to be 63 stiff).

khalmarx
08-04-2008, 05:41 AM
Hi nick
Just wondering whether its possible to find the ag100 in the uk?
Thanks a bunch
Khal

nickb
08-04-2008, 05:54 AM
Hi nick
Just wondering whether its possible to find the ag100 in the uk?
Thanks a bunch
Khal

Yeah *tennis* *nuts* have them.

Nick

mawashi
08-04-2008, 08:06 AM
nickb did you receive my mail that I sent out on July 31?

mawashi
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nickb
08-04-2008, 08:38 AM
nickb did you receive my mail that I sent out on July 31?

mawashi

I dont think so...did you sent it using tennis warehouse?

Please send it to:

info@nickbondtennis.co.uk


Nick

khalmarx
08-04-2008, 03:56 PM
Hi Nick
Thanks for info but could'nt find the ag100 on 10nis nuts. Or have i just been looking at the wrong places on their site? Thanks again
Khal

mawashi
08-04-2008, 04:29 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks, I had sent it to
?
nick_bond@hotmail.co.uk but I'll be making some changes to the mail and sending it to the address you mentioned. :)

Mawashi
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HyperHorse
08-05-2008, 01:16 AM
Thanks for the review, Nick...
I think im sold.

nickb
08-05-2008, 06:28 AM
Hi Nick
Thanks for info but could'nt find the ag100 on 10nis nuts. Or have i just been looking at the wrong places on their site? Thanks again
Khal

Oh looks they dont have it now...they sold it for over a year...dont know why its gone. TW is the only play then.

Nick

nickb
08-05-2008, 06:34 AM
Hi Nick,

Thanks, I had sent it to

nick_bond@hotmail.co.uk but I'll be making some changes to the mail and sending it to the address you mentioned. :)

Mawashi

Check your inbox!

Nick

biggsy
08-05-2008, 02:40 PM
nuts told me that the 100's have been discontinued in the UK. They are waiting for the new range...possibly in September........

sharpblade
08-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Many people say that Dunlop 200g has a small sweetspot. What about this racket?

2nd_Serve
04-20-2009, 06:32 PM
Nice review. Thanks

ramseszerg
04-24-2009, 08:00 AM
This is the racquet that tw now has right?

thehunk
04-26-2009, 06:28 PM
How does it play compared to the Wilson K90? Because I use the K90 but was looking for a racquet that is similar but with a bit more room to hit and this maybe a 95 sq inch headsize. Would you recommend this one? I have tried the 18x20 version and didnt like it though. Too much spring, i like it a little more stiff and dampened like the K90.

BigT
04-26-2009, 07:31 PM
any demos in the US of these?

muggy
04-28-2009, 10:56 AM
thehunk, I use these racquets as my main racquet and I can tell you they're quite different from the k90.

They feel very light in hand, lighter than their specs. They have quite a low sw, i played stock with these for quite a while but now I use 6 grams of lead placed at 3 and 9.

The k90 feels stiffer and heavier, even after I added lead to the aerogels. There's not as much plow through obviously, although the lead helped with that quite a bit. I really don't think you can call the racquets similar unless you did a bit of customization, although I really enjoy hitting with both the aerogel and k90, for some reason I hit quite well with both.