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lpicken
08-17-2008, 07:43 PM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.

Serve_Ace
08-17-2008, 07:46 PM
is this some kind of joke?
Lets see Nadal achieve the same kind of results like Phelps, at the olympics

Zaragoza
08-17-2008, 07:50 PM
is this some kind of joke?
Lets see Nadal achieve the same kind of results like Phelps, at the olympics

How do the relays work at tennis?

s7evin
08-17-2008, 07:51 PM
He plays tennis a lot;)

Fee
08-17-2008, 08:02 PM
1. This belongs in Odd and Ends.
2. Phelps did not get a medal for the preliminary rounds, just the finals.
3. They are different sports. Get over it.

Mansewerz
08-17-2008, 08:12 PM
Guys, Tiger Woods is so overrated.

I bet Nadal would rock golf because it wouldn't be hard on his knees!

kittogi
08-17-2008, 08:13 PM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.


You're the dumbest guy in this forum. Don't you know that before you get to the finals or the medal match in swimming you have to qualify or participate in heats? Don't you know that even if you win a heat but your time is not fast, you still can't compete in the medal round? Don't you know that before you can even reach the Olympics you have to qualify in a zonal games? Don't you know how hard these swimmers train and compete just to be a part of the Olympics? In tennis, your rankings give you the passport to compete. If you're the number one in your country, you can immediately compete unless you refuse. But, in swimming, even though you're the best in the world, if you failed to qualify because you have a slower time, you WON'T be able to compete in the Olympics. Now, don't talk that winning an 8 gold medal in Olympics is just nothing. Phelps may not be the greatest of all time for you, but certainly he's the best in this generation. Oh, by the way, Phelps is not a joke, he's a swimming freak... a fast, a classy, a powerful, a better athlete than those over paid basketball stars, and a humble Olympian.

I guess you don't know these things, and that makes you an idiot for posting this comment!

lovecr717
08-17-2008, 08:14 PM
oh yeah some people just cant help but jealous of everything.

BjornBorg
08-17-2008, 08:15 PM
Nadal's clay court game is so overrated as well. And while we're at it, I think Michael Jordan really wasn't that good. :)

mrDamien
08-17-2008, 08:16 PM
This thread should move it somewhere :neutral:.

lovecr717
08-17-2008, 08:16 PM
You're the dumbest guy in this forum. Don't you know that before you get to the finals or the medal match in swimming you have to qualify or participate in heats? Don't you know that even if you win a heat but your time is not fast, you still can't compete in the medal round? Don't you know that before you can even reach the Olympics you have to qualify in a zonal games? Don't you know how hard these swimmers train and compete just to be a part of the Olympics? In tennis, your rankings give you the passport to compete. If you're the number one in your country, you can immediately compete unless you refuse. But, in swimming, even though you're the best in the world, if you failed to qualify because you have a slower time, you WON'T be able to compete in the Olympics. Now, don't talk that winning an 8 gold medal in Olympics is just nothing. Phelps may not be the greatest of all time for you, but certainly he's the best in this generation. Oh, by the way, Phelps is not a joke, he's a swimming freak... a fast, a classy, a powerful, a better athlete than those over paid basketball stars, and a humble Olympian.

I guess you don't know these things, and that makes you an idiot for posting this comment!

Quoted for TRUTH

ShooterMcMarco
08-17-2008, 08:17 PM
Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke.

http://www.videobeta.net/gifs/10308.gif

tacou
08-17-2008, 08:19 PM
this thread should be moved to the trash... seriously?

8 medals/8 world records in ONE games? it's impossible to be overrated. you are a god if you do this, even more so when compared with his last games. seriously, I know TT is famous for needless bashing of players, but now we're bringing other sports into it? Jeez...

plus, I'm a HUGE Nadal fan but he has 1 gold medal compared to Phelp's eight, and if you include his Slams he's still down 6 - 8. And that's just in BEIJING. Include Athens and Rafa has a long, long way to go.

JayxTheKoolest
08-17-2008, 08:21 PM
if you want a somewhat scientific example of how hard he's working: the dude allegedly burns 12,000 calories a day at the olympics due to activity. the human average is 2,000. what he's doing is ridiculous, he just makes it looks so easy. good luck ever coming close to appreciating how hard he's worked his body.

Nanshiki
08-17-2008, 08:21 PM
http://www.videobeta.net/gifs/10308.gif

LMFAO

I wish I had Phelps' metabolism... the guy eats 12,000 calories a day and apparently "can't keep the weight on."

Il Mostro
08-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Yes, definitely file the OP in the trash. What an absolute moron.

Nadal_Monfils
08-17-2008, 08:23 PM
http://www.videobeta.net/gifs/10308.gif

That's hilarious!

persondudething
08-17-2008, 08:25 PM
the previous record for career golds medals was 9. he has 14 and is probably going to london in 2012. he won all 8 of his races and set world records in 7 of them. and this doesnt include athens where he got 6 golds. i dare you to find an athlete with a more impressive resume.

JayxTheKoolest
08-17-2008, 08:27 PM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.

I'm guessing your somewhere around 12-13 years old...

grizzly4life
08-17-2008, 08:33 PM
i have wondered about the OP's original point...... certain sports it's hard to win alot of gold medals. i mean, in tennis, it would be two max.

but i don't understand why all these threads recently are started by rafa fans. very self-conscious about rafa not getting enough recognition.

lovecr717
08-17-2008, 08:33 PM
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3783/n1205100165103280137lm6.jpg

JayxTheKoolest
08-17-2008, 08:35 PM
^ so classy ^

Interceptor
08-17-2008, 08:57 PM
http://www.videobeta.net/gifs/10308.gif

This is awesome!

this thread should be moved to the trash... seriously?


Got that right.

Yes, definitely file the OP in the trash. What an absolute moron.

Yeah, it had to be a nadal fan, they always take it too far

I'm guessing your somewhere around 12-13 years old...

He probably is!

These boards should have some sort of stupid-thread-censor thing to avoid BullShi+ threads like these from ever being created

Dilettante
08-17-2008, 09:14 PM
Now I expect a "Usain Bolt should retire" thread.

boringmember
08-17-2008, 09:34 PM
Now I expect a "Usain Bolt should retire" thread.

LOL, with a "seriously" as part of the title, no?

Dilettante
08-17-2008, 10:03 PM
LOL, with a "seriously" as part of the title, no?

Haha, yes, I forgot that.

Also, I liked a lot the "Prime Sampras Vs. 2012 Del Potro", specially this quote:

I'm sick of fan boys overrating 2012 Del Potro. Sampras in straight sets.

2013 Del Potro is another matter entirely. Greatest tennis player I've ever seen.

...genius.

Sometimes this board is worth visiting just for reading some thread titles.

SoCal10s
08-17-2008, 11:27 PM
here's the deal ,if Usain Bolt should win the 200m ok then he will have 2 gold . .. now if the Olympic committee starts a 50m , and 150m and then relay like they do in swimming Usain Bolt should win a ton of medals like Phelps..

anointedone
08-18-2008, 12:22 AM
Phelps and Nadal are both superstars of their respective sports. One trait both share is their sheer determination and almost defiant refusal to lose. So many athletes in any sport could learn from both of them. On TSN during the mens final yesterday they mentioned Phelps met Nadal in the village and thought he was a cool guy. It was great to hear.

UnPhzD
08-18-2008, 12:28 AM
micheal phelps is not over rated fool...
if he was he wouldnt be breaking almost of the records lol... hes like the roger federer of tennis, tiger woods of golf, and etc

you should be lucky to see him break records because its gonna be a hellah long time before some one does

Fedexeon
08-18-2008, 12:29 AM
Swimmers only get a chance in 4 years to be in the limelight... so Phelps definitely deserves what he's getting now.

edmondsm
08-18-2008, 12:31 AM
For all you intelligent, logical, well-mannered, funny, likeable Nadal fans.......this here is why you guys get so much crap.

luckyboy1300
08-18-2008, 01:06 AM
in swimming you get to get more medals because one can join in many events. you're not given the same opportunities in tennis.

lilminihorse
08-18-2008, 01:09 AM
here's the deal ,if Usain Bolt should win the 200m ok then he will have 2 gold . .. now if the Olympic committee starts a 50m , and 150m and then relay like they do in swimming Usain Bolt should win a ton of medals like Phelps..

they have the 400 800 1500 3000 10000
100 hurdles
400 hurdles

long jump high jump triple jump

a few relay events.... what else do you want?

Gorecki
08-18-2008, 01:21 AM
ehm.. questions please?:

i wonder of he wipes himself before swiming for 20 seconds?

does he stand there 30 more secondes after the judge calls the start?

how good would he perform in the low bouncing water of the 90's?

his stoke? does it have less spin than Nadal?

should he do butterfly 1h or 2h?

should he change his hand to midplus?

janipyt05
08-18-2008, 01:34 AM
http://www.videobeta.net/gifs/10308.gif

WOW THIS IS AMAZING i laughed for a good 2 minutes, well done mate :)

edmondsm
08-18-2008, 01:35 AM
ehm.. questions please?:

i wonder of he wipes himself before swiming for 20 seconds?

does he stand there 30 more secondes after the judge calls the start?

how good would he perform in the low bouncing water of the 90's?

his stoke? does it have less spin than Nadal?

should he do butterfly 1h or 2h?

should he change his hand to midplus?

Genius. Gorecki, now there's someone who deserves a medal.

maximo
08-18-2008, 01:44 AM
http://www.videobeta.net/gifs/10308.gif

this is so funny. :lol:

Dilettante
08-18-2008, 01:49 AM
ehm.. questions please?:

i wonder of he wipes himself before swiming for 20 seconds?

does he stand there 30 more secondes after the judge calls the start?

how good would he perform in the low bouncing water of the 90's?

his stoke? does it have less spin than Nadal?

should he do butterfly 1h or 2h?

should he change his hand to midplus?

2008 Phelps Vs prime Spitz?

nn
08-18-2008, 02:19 AM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.

one thing is for sure you are teenage who has no sense of what is call achievement??

go out win your local events first & you will realize??

ShooterMcMarco
08-18-2008, 02:25 AM
Phelps has inspired me to make a trip to the local pool and go super saiyan.

Purostaff
08-18-2008, 02:59 AM
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/coconutgt/america9000.jpg

Rhino
08-18-2008, 03:12 AM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.

Mmmm. For a start my Grandmother hasn't mentioned Phelps to me at all.
It's true that Phelps may only be considered the best overall because of the amount of events and strokes that swimming has available for him to enter,
but keep in mind that Rafa didn't even win the doubles.
Steve Redgrave is more impressive to me because he won a gold medal at 5 different Olympics.

zagor
08-18-2008, 03:19 AM
2008 Phelps Vs prime Spitz?

The competition was way tougher back then,Phelps would get crushed j/k.

federer envies me
08-18-2008, 03:41 AM
You cannot be serious

Uroboros
08-18-2008, 03:42 AM
If anything, Phelps only shows the supremacy o 2H swimers over 1H ones...

pound cat
08-18-2008, 03:46 AM
Why is this thread on Pro Player Discussion?

Whoops i forgot, this is MTW.

raiden031
08-18-2008, 03:59 AM
Phelps is without a doubt the world's best swimmer. I think its difficult to say he's the world's best athlete though. You could compare Phelps' performance at the Olympics to say Nadal's performance at the French Open the last few years. In both cases, there was nobody in the world who came close to out performing them. Or would it be more fair to say that Phelp's 17 or so total swims and 8 gold medals this Olympics is comparable to winning the calendar GS? To me it seems like his domination during this competition would be easier to achieve than performing so well in tennis in four different major tournaments. This is not taking away from his abilities as a swimmer, but just how he would rank as a top overall athlete in the world.

hollywood9826
08-18-2008, 04:15 AM
here's the deal ,if Usain Bolt should win the 200m ok then he will have 2 gold . .. now if the Olympic committee starts a 50m , and 150m and then relay like they do in swimming Usain Bolt should win a ton of medals like Phelps..

Actually Bolt would probably lose if they had a 50M. He still does not start well at all. But once he gets outta gates and gets into gallop mode he just motors away from the pack.

Phelps would also lose just about any 50M race, even though the only race that they do is 50M free

lilminihorse
08-18-2008, 05:25 AM
Phelps is without a doubt the world's best swimmer. I think its difficult to say he's the world's best athlete though. You could compare Phelps' performance at the Olympics to say Nadal's performance at the French Open the last few years. In both cases, there was nobody in the world who came close to out performing them. Or would it be more fair to say that Phelp's 17 or so total swims and 8 gold medals this Olympics is comparable to winning the calendar GS? To me it seems like his domination during this competition would be easier to achieve than performing so well in tennis in four different major tournaments. This is not taking away from his abilities as a swimmer, but just how he would rank as a top overall athlete in the world.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=215894

beat you to it

lpicken
08-18-2008, 05:45 AM
I dont find anything interesting in the fact that an athlete wins all the olympic (gold or whatever)medals in his speciality,I would find more interesting to see new faces recieving those medals,just for a change....
Besides whats happenning with the rest of the swimmers are they undertrained,they dont eat,they dont have enough energies...
I am bored of the face of Mr. Phelps popping out of the pool...
I think that measuring the effort,Nadal should recieve a full container of golden medals to be shipped home...

Thank you finally somebody sees things from my point of view as they should. I didn't realize there were so swimming fans in the forum. I couldn't tell if the swimming, speedwalking or the event where they make the horses walk real funny is more exciting. Maybe I just need somebody to explain to me why swimmers get a medal for every little cotton picking event. Nadal won 6 matches so therefore he should 6 medals, the same logic that is being used to hype Phelps could be used to hype Nadal and tennis. That's all I am saying.

latinking
08-18-2008, 06:03 AM
Phelps is not even considered the fastest swimmer on earth.

I am sure he is considered the best swimmer, but not the fastest. Just thought that was kinda interesting.

Anyway, what he did is very impressive.

Zaragoza
08-18-2008, 06:05 AM
here's the deal ,if Usain Bolt should win the 200m ok then he will have 2 gold . .. now if the Olympic committee starts a 50m , and 150m and then relay like they do in swimming Usain Bolt should win a ton of medals like Phelps..

Exactly and thatīs why itīs dumb to compare the greatness of athletes from different sports. Swimming and athletics give the best chance to win multiple medals, especially swimming (different styles, relays...).
The best in some sports can only win 1 or 2 medals max. Michael Jordan could only win 1 gold medal if he played in the Olympics. Would Phelpsī8 gold medals mean heīs a much greater athlete than Jordan?
People and journalists need to understand how different every sport is. One is the best swimmer, other is the best tennis player...theyīre the best on their sports and thatīs what really matters. Itīs dumb to compare sports and rate someone as the best athlete because he won more medals than other greats from other sports, since the chances to win medals are not the same and itīs downright impossible to win 8 medals in most of the sports.

lovecr717
08-18-2008, 06:13 AM
Exactly and thatīs why itīs dumb to compare the greatness of athletes from different sports. Swimming and athletics give the best chance to win multiple medals, especially swimming (different styles, relays...).
The best in some sports can only win 1 or 2 medals max. Michael Jordan could only win 1 gold medal if he played in the Olympics. Would Phelpsī8 gold medals mean heīs a much greater athlete than Jordan?
People and journalists need to understand how different every sport is. One is the best swimmer, other is the best tennis player...theyīre the best on their sports and thatīs what really matters. Itīs dumb to compare sports and rate someone as the best athlete because he won more medals than other greats from other sports, since the chances to win medals are not the same and itīs downright impossible to win 8 medals in most of the sports.

I understand your point of view. But seriously, my local newspapars and my local tv channel, they just mention him as "the greatest swimmer and the greatest olympian".

helloworld
08-18-2008, 06:20 AM
There are many more athletes who are more dominant than Phelps in their respective field, but they just don't get to compete for 8 freaking golds in 1 Olympics! Swimming has so many golds, it's a joke.

BHud
08-18-2008, 06:44 AM
Ipicken must be pickin' his nose...get this thread out of here...

lpicken
08-18-2008, 09:23 AM
Well BHud must be smokin bud.

Ignorant Genius
08-18-2008, 09:34 AM
Thank you finally somebody sees things from my point of view as they should. I didn't realize there were so swimming fans in the forum. I couldn't tell if the swimming, speedwalking or the event where they make the horses walk real funny is more exciting. Maybe I just need somebody to explain to me why swimmers get a medal for every little cotton picking event. Nadal won 6 matches so therefore he should 6 medals, the same logic that is being used to hype Phelps could be used to hype Nadal and tennis. That's all I am saying.

So using your [flawed] logic, Phelps should/could also get medals for the qualifiers he swam in? You do realize he had to swim in a qualifying heat to make it to the medal rounds, right?

The Olympics award medals to winners in the final event. Some events have qualifiers or multiple matches leading up to the event.....you don't win anything for those, other than the right to compete for a medal.

jrachiever
08-18-2008, 10:11 AM
There are many more athletes who are more dominant than Phelps in their respective field, but they just don't get to compete for 8 freaking golds in 1 Olympics! Swimming has so many golds, it's a joke.

Can you throw out a few of the names of these "many more athletes" who dominate their fields more than Phelps? He has ungodly long unbeaten streaks in several events and just set 4 individual world records. Ian Thrope repeatedly claiming over the last year the 8 gold medals was an impossible feat should give you an indication of how difficult it is.

Yes, there are more events that it is possible to compete in for swimming. This doesn't make it "a joke". It justs means that using total number of medals won as a metric of comparing the relative merits of swimmers versus other athletes is not very fair. Allowing this, an actual fair examination of Phelps' puts him way up near the top, if not at the top of the list of all time Olympic accomplishments. He was competing against specialists in each of the different events and he took them all down. The 200IM and 400IM were the only events where the top contenders were the same. In the other ones he was facing much more rested world class specialists and still came out on top.

This is what I'd put the tennis equivalent of Phelps' Olympics as:

-7 days
-8 best 3 of 5 set matches

Day 1 - vs Thomas Muster in his prime on clay
Day 2 - vs Patrick Rafter in his prime on hard courts
Day 3 - am vs Nalbandian indoors, pm vs Djokovic on hard courts
Day 4 - vs Kuerten in his prime on clay
Day 5 - vs Federer on new age slow Wimbledon grass
Day 6 - vs Agassi in his prime on Rebound Ace
Day 7 - vs Sampras in his prime on old school fast grass

Of course all the other players played no more then one other match during the week.

yodudedudeyo
08-18-2008, 10:44 AM
I dont find anything interesting in the fact that an athlete wins all the olympic (gold or whatever)medals in his speciality,I would find more interesting to see new faces recieving those medals,just for a change....
Besides whats happenning with the rest of the swimmers are they undertrained,they dont eat,they dont have enough energies...
I am bored of the face of Mr. Phelps popping out of the pool...
I think that measuring the effort,Nadal should recieve a full container of golden medals to be shipped home...

you really don't know what you're talking about you nadal fanboy. It's not that the rest of the swimmers are undertrained or that they dont have enough "energies", it's just that phelps is so much better.

take federer vs everyone else...does everyone else just stink because they don't have enough to eat? no, it's just because federer is just naturally better and more talented at tennis than everyone else.

Plus you act as if phelps won every event, which is simply not the case. A lot of other people won the gold/a medal in other events over phelps.

Finally, your effort case is full of crock. I do not believe rafa has put more effort into his sport than phelps. If you compare the amount of time training for swimming vs tennis, tennis has got nothing on swimming. Pro tennis players practice at MOST 4-5 hours a day. Swimmers put in morning practices, afternoon workouts, and evening practices every day of the week.

lovecr717
08-18-2008, 11:04 AM
I am bored of the face of Mr. Phelps popping out of the pool...
I think that measuring the effort,Nadal should recieve a full container of golden medals to be shipped home...

i am bored of the face of nadal bitting his medal/trophies

ACE of Hearts
08-18-2008, 11:06 AM
Michael Phelps could be the Marion Jones of swimming.I dont trust none of these athletes including the other athletes from other countries.I am kinda tired of listening to all the fellatio of Michael Phelps!!!

nCode747
08-18-2008, 05:31 PM
hes the best ever

lilminihorse
08-18-2008, 08:47 PM
Nadal won 6 matches so therefore he should 6 medals, the same logic that is being used to hype Phelps could be used to hype Nadal and tennis. That's all I am saying.

if that's the case then every tennis player that wins a match should get a gold right? or in the same mind-set; the swimmers should get a gold for every person they beat in the water. See how you're stupid?? Ok, just making sure.

consistency wins
08-18-2008, 09:04 PM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.

YOU are a FLIPPING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sapient007
08-19-2008, 06:15 AM
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Fedace
08-19-2008, 06:24 AM
^^^LOL that is funny. Agree with lpicken though. Swimming just isn't very popular in the states. but Phelps is definitely cashing in on his success. He is expected to make over $30 million dollars in endorsement money.
The real question is would you pay $30-40 to go to a swimming event to watch Phelps swim. Probably NOT...

lovecr717
08-19-2008, 06:44 AM
^^^LOL that is funny. Agree with lpicken though. Swimming just isn't very popular in the states. but Phelps is definitely cashing in on his success. He is expected to make over $30 million dollars in endorsement money.
The real question is would you pay $30-40 to go to a swimming event to watch Phelps swim. Probably NOT...

I think I will :-|

SFrazeur
08-19-2008, 07:08 AM
Phelps has 8 medals and everybody and there Grandmother are talking about it. I guess it is good for swimming as nobody gives a poop but every 4 years. So if Rafa won 6 matches shouldn't he get 6 Gold medals just like Phelps who gets a medal for 45-90 seconds he works. Don't get me wrong Phelps is a great athlete but to call him the best overall is a joke. Rafa drinks his milkshake.

Phelps is hardly just working 45-90 seconds. That statement is ridicules and just not thought through completely. That's like saying Rafa only works the length of the duration of his matches. The actual trial, the matches, are the culmination of thousands and thousands and thousands of hours of hard work, training and dedication.

-SF

tbini87
08-19-2008, 05:19 PM
is absolutely dominating your sport and being the best athlete to ever compete in that sport overrated??? if so then i guess the op has a point...

tbini87
08-19-2008, 05:20 PM
oh, and did nadal win in doubles?