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cujays
08-24-2008, 06:06 PM
first im sad to to see the games go

i loved watching micheal phelps dominate in the pool
and i liked watching shawn johnson and nastia lukin give it there all in gymnastics
the opening cerimony was great

Feña14
08-24-2008, 06:16 PM
Winning everything in the cycling was brilliant!

I also liked watching the fencing, although the scoring system was a bit strange.

Coming 4th overall in the medal table was also quite an achievement.

Ignorant Genius
08-24-2008, 06:48 PM
Seeing Kobe and Bron in the stands, watching Michael Phelps.

shavenyak
08-24-2008, 06:53 PM
Seeing Kobe and Bron in the stands, watching Michael Phelps.

And May/Walsh :)

dave333
08-24-2008, 07:02 PM
Phelps, basketball, Bolt.

And the ceremonies were absolutely amazing. No way tiny London can top that.

helloworld
08-24-2008, 07:04 PM
The closing ceremony was great, maybe even better than the opening ceremony.

SempreSami
08-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Phelps, basketball, Bolt.

And the ceremonies were absolutely amazing. No way tiny London can top that.

Pfft, London pwns enough as a city, who cares if Beijing 2008 is a better spectacle than 2012.

saram
08-24-2008, 07:32 PM
One thing:

Michael Phelps

saram
08-24-2008, 07:33 PM
Pfft, London pwns enough as a city, who cares if Beijing 2008 is a better spectacle than 2012.

I agree....

HyperHorse
08-24-2008, 07:35 PM
My favourite part of the Olympics?
The fact that it's over and that the scumbag Chinese government's 2 week "party of goodwill and diplomacy" is over.
What a charade.

TheShaun
08-24-2008, 08:18 PM
THEY ARE OVER!!!!!! YAY!!! now i don't have to listen to people talk about sports who know nothing about sports.

chrisf
08-24-2008, 08:28 PM
women's volleyball slow motion replays... ya

xtremerunnerars
08-24-2008, 08:33 PM
My favourite part of the Olympics?
The fact that it's over and that the scumbag Chinese government's 2 week "party of goodwill and diplomacy" is over.
What a charade.

agreed.


Let's hope London's ceremony is 100% real.

ChipNCharge
08-24-2008, 08:34 PM
My favourite part of the Olympics?
The fact that it's over and that the scumbag Chinese government's 2 week "party of goodwill and diplomacy" is over.
What a charade.

Did they ever approve a single protest application? The last I heard was that 77 groups had applied to "demonstrate" in the designated area, but none of them were approved by the Chinese government.

saram
08-24-2008, 08:44 PM
My favourite part of the Olympics?
The fact that it's over and that the scumbag Chinese government's 2 week "party of goodwill and diplomacy" is over.
What a charade.

I'd agree. The Chinese government falsified documents about the gymnasts in question--no doubt about it. May their world and government crumble....

saram
08-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Did they ever approve a single protest application? The last I heard was that 77 groups had applied to "demonstrate" in the designated area, but none of them were approved by the Chinese government.

No one was EVER allowed to protest.

xtremerunnerars
08-24-2008, 09:06 PM
No one was EVER allowed to protest.

They were "allowed" to. They just had to let the government know who they were so that they could be given the proper paperwork (aka monitored more closely) to fill out.

saram
08-24-2008, 09:25 PM
They were "allowed" to. They just had to let the government know who they were so that they could be given the proper paperwork (aka monitored more closely) to fill out.

According to NPR (national public radio) this week, no protest was officially or formally allowed to be held as no request was accepted nor recognized due to a delay....

malakas
08-25-2008, 01:54 AM
My favourite moment of the Olympics was when I saw Matthias Steiner breaking the Olympic Record and though he was the strongest man on earth,go on celebrating like a small child and then crying and pulling up his dead's wife picture in the medal ceremony.

My second favourite moment was when I saw Du Toit finishing her race.Amazing.

shavenyak
08-25-2008, 02:33 AM
Watching Oksana Chusovitina win silver in the vault.

For those that don't know: Her son has leukemia and she couldn't get a hospital bed for him in her native Uzbekistan. She struck a deal with German coaches that if she would compete for them, they would treat her son. She and her husband moved to Germany, waited out the three years for citizenship while her son was being treated. Once she got citizenship in 2006, she started competing for Germany, culminating in the silver medal in vault at the age of 33.

I was hoping she'd win gold. The last girl surpassed her.

Edit: Oh, and her son is doing well, his leukemia is in remission.

superman1
08-25-2008, 02:52 AM
I'd say Bolt's 200 meters and Phelps' one hundredth of a second win were the greatest moments. Track was the most fun event, by far. The basketball final was quite entertaining as well.

my_forehand
08-25-2008, 03:29 AM
Phelps winning 8 gold medals whilst the rest of the men's swimming won a combined amount of 7 gold medals.

Bolt pretty much raping the competition in both 100m and 200m (way to celebrate before the race is over).

And the two Thai gold medals in boxing and weightlifting (the silver, for Karate was pretty entertaining).

I never did see it but, is it true that Bryan Clay helped up Roman Serble in the 1500m yet came last? I read it from an article, but not that sure:

Clay, exhausted, slogged to a dead-last finish in his last and least favorite decathlon event, the 1500 meters, in 5 minutes, 6.22 seconds. He helped up a fallen competitor, 2004 champion Roman Sebrle, and walked slowly around the finish area, shaking hands with the rest of the field one by one. This was an exercise in perseverance, and survival. Clay, who battled pounding rain, wicked heat, sleep deprivation and tense competition over two grueling days, earned his title, too -- "World's Greatest Athlete."

You guys should read this (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns) article too.

chess9
08-25-2008, 03:58 AM
Winning everything in the cycling was brilliant!

I also liked watching the fencing, although the scoring system was a bit strange.

Coming 4th overall in the medal table was also quite an achievement.

Yes, Great Britain committed the money to cycling and it showed!

My favorites were the swimming, cycling, and distance races. No surprise there, eh? I was happy to see Rafa get the gold medal too. He's a great kid.

-Robert

rafaelnadalfan1234
08-25-2008, 06:01 AM
basketball, swiming, and tennis

helloworld
08-25-2008, 06:08 AM
The best part is China beating the crap out of America. 51 to 36 medals, lol.

tacoben
08-25-2008, 11:30 AM
Seeing Benjamin Boukapeti of Togo Africa win a bronze medal in the kayak event, has to be my favorite part of the Bejiing Olympics.

Octavianus
08-25-2008, 11:43 AM
The best part is China beating the crap out of America. 51 to 36 medals, lol.


A very good ego booster for a third world country.

shavenyak
08-25-2008, 11:48 AM
The best part is China beating the crap out of America. 51 to 36 medals, lol.

Especially since they have to steal them from their families at 3 to do it.

http://www.aboluowang.com/news/data/2008/0822/article_56997.html

Feña14
08-25-2008, 02:12 PM
Yes, Great Britain committed the money to cycling and it showed!

My favorites were the swimming, cycling, and distance races. No surprise there, eh? I was happy to see Rafa get the gold medal too. He's a great kid.

-Robert

Yeah money well spent. Track cycling is really exciting to watch and it's something kids can get into easily enough.

goober
08-25-2008, 03:07 PM
The best part is China beating the crap out of America. 51 to 36 medals, lol.

too bad world respect is not related to gold medal count- lol

littleboi21
08-25-2008, 03:49 PM
Watching Oksana Chusovitina win silver in the vault.

For those that don't know: Her son has leukemia and she couldn't get a hospital bed for him in her native Uzbekistan. She struck a deal with German coaches that if she would compete for them, they would treat her son. She and her husband moved to Germany, waited out the three years for citizenship while her son was being treated. Once she got citizenship in 2006, she started competing for Germany, culminating in the silver medal in vault at the age of 33.

I was hoping she'd win gold. The last girl surpassed her.

Edit: Oh, and her son is doing well, his leukemia is in remission.

This story is heartwarming. I was in tears when the story was aired on TV.

Especially since they have to steal them from their families at 3 to do it.

http://www.aboluowang.com/news/data/2008/0822/article_56997.html

WTF.

too bad world respect is not related to gold medal count- lol

True. Their girls are still awesome.


My favorite part was the 100m Fly finish by Phelps. I closed my eyes 5 seconds before the finish. Then I knew he just won by .01 secs. Unbelievable.

Bryan Clay. I've always wanted to try decathlon. They should start awarding the decathlon winners during the closing ceremony rather than awarding the marathon winners.

helloworld
08-25-2008, 07:04 PM
Especially since they have to steal them from their families at 3 to do it.

http://www.aboluowang.com/news/data/2008/0822/article_56997.html

Whao dude, it's just a joke. Calm down, man. We lost this Olympics because we still have this kind of mentality thinking that they're still third world country and poses no threat to us. The truth is China has already surpassed us in sport, and they will soon surpass us in millitary, economy, and political influence, if we still have this kind of mentality.

Ignorant Genius
08-25-2008, 07:16 PM
Whao dude, it's just a joke. Calm down, man. We lost this Olympics because we still have this kind of mentality thinking that they're still third world country and poses no threat to us. The truth is China has already surpassed us in sport, and they will soon surpass us in millitary, economy, and political influence, if we still have this kind of mentality.

What exactly is a joke? That China takes children from their families at an early age and moves them to sports academies run by the Chinese government?


We didn't "lose" the Olympics. We got the second highest gold medal total and the highest overall medal total.

And as far as your other comments, anyone that knows anything about world politics knows that China has been a major military and economic power for a long, long time. Their political influence is limited by the fact that they are a communist country in a world that has pretty much abandoned communism.

xpaulinabearx
08-25-2008, 07:21 PM
michael phelps.
nastia liukin and shawn johnson.
actually, i liked eberything :D

lethalfang
08-26-2008, 01:10 AM
What exactly is a joke? That China takes children from their families at an early age and moves them to sports academies run by the Chinese government?


That's totally false. But then again, why let facts get in the way of a bias.

shavenyak
08-26-2008, 01:32 AM
That's totally false. But then again, why let facts get in the way of a bias.

So I guess the gymnastics commentators were lying during the olympics?

helloworld
08-26-2008, 02:33 AM
So I guess the gymnastics commentators were lying during the olympics?

Those children were not forced by the government to do Gymnastics. They are willing to devote themselves, because they have passion for the sport. If you don't respect the chinese government, at least respect the athletes who devote their lives to the sport.

dave333
08-26-2008, 04:34 AM
The chinese don't just take them away in the night, they have to ask permission to do so.

But once they do, then yes, the government has complete control over those kids. But they chose it. If not them, the government would probably find someone else, and it's a great chance for people in the country to escape the poverty that comes with agricultural life.

Octavianus
08-26-2008, 05:10 AM
What exactly is a joke? That China takes children from their families at an early age and moves them to sports academies run by the Chinese government?


We didn't "lose" the Olympics. We got the second highest gold medal total and the highest overall medal total.

And as far as your other comments, anyone that knows anything about world politics knows that China has been a major military and economic power for a long, long time. Their political influence is limited by the fact that they are a communist country in a world that has pretty much abandoned communism.



China an economic power? What do you base that on? Their GDP is 5th best in the world, slightly higher than Italy’s and lower than France’s. Meanwhile China has a population of 1.3 Billion+ while France and Italy have populations of 57-58 million (approximately). Somehow I fail see how China can be an economic power based on these facts.

Phil
08-26-2008, 05:16 AM
Whao dude, it's just a joke. Calm down, man. We lost this Olympics because we still have this kind of mentality thinking that they're still third world country and poses no threat to us. The truth is China has already surpassed us in sport, and they will soon surpass us in millitary, economy, and political influence, if we still have this kind of mentality.
Where do you get your "facts"? China hasn't surpassed anyone in sport. Just those sports that are held once every four years-like diving and ping pong. China didn't win a single TEAM SPORT medal and most of their medals were won on judging events-like the Chinese gymnast who fell on her butt and yet was STILL awarded a bronze medal.

As for the military and the economy, China will not "soon" pass the USA and, there's no guarantee that it will ever do so in those areas. I dunno about political influence-mainly it's just paying people off in places like Africa and the Middle East.

Anyway, the picture you paint is, as it always is with you, way too simplistic. While China is a military and economic power now, it is also still a developing country and there may be limits as to how much a fascist-governed country can actually grow until it reaches its limits (or implodes).

diegaa
08-26-2008, 05:33 AM
A very good ego booster for a third world country.

ha! technically you dont know what you're talking about. 3rd world country?
First, that term (as well as 1st world and 2nd world countries) are not being used anymore after the fall of berlin's wall and the desintegration of Soviet Union.
If any, China is a 2nd world country as it still remains as comunist one.

diegaa
08-26-2008, 05:36 AM
too bad world respect is not related to gold medal count- lol

i do have to agree here. but let me add the same goes for the US.

helloworld
08-26-2008, 05:46 AM
Where do you get your "facts"? China hasn't surpassed anyone in sport. Just those sports that are held once every four years-like diving and ping pong. China didn't win a single TEAM SPORT medal and most of their medals were won on judging events-like the Chinese gymnast who fell on her butt and yet was STILL awarded a bronze medal.

As for the military and the economy, China will not "soon" pass the USA and, there's no guarantee that it will ever do so in those areas. I dunno about political influence-mainly it's just paying people off in places like Africa and the Middle East.

Anyway, the picture you paint is, as it always is with you, way too simplistic. While China is a military and economic power now, it is also still a developing country and there may be limits as to how much a fascist-governed country can actually grow until it reaches its limits (or implodes).

This is EXACTLY the type of mentality that I'm talking about. Typical american excuses to make themselves feeling better. America needs to accept losses rather than sitting in front of the computer and making non-sense excuses, or we better start getting used to second places.

helloworld
08-26-2008, 05:49 AM
China an economic power? What do you base that on? Their GDP is 5th best in the world, slightly higher than Italy’s and lower than France’s. Meanwhile China has a population of 1.3 Billion+ while France and Italy have populations of 57-58 million (approximately). Somehow I fail see how China can be an economic power based on these facts.

That is not true. China's economy is second only to the US with PPP measurement, and 3rd with nominal measurement. In addition, their growth rate is over 11% which is astounding compared to the size of their economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP))

Phil
08-26-2008, 05:59 AM
This is EXACTLY the type of mentality that I'm talking about. Typical american excuses to make themselves feeling better. America needs to accept losses rather than sitting in front of the computer and making non-sense excuses, or we better start getting used to second places.
"We" came in second in the Olympics a number of times-being beat out in the medal count by the Soviet Union. And like the China, the USSR was a fascist dictatorship desperate for international "respect". Didn't seem to bother us then. As someone else said, Olympic medal count doesn't confer status on a country. Takes a bit more than that...

goober
08-26-2008, 06:17 AM
i do have to agree here. but let me add the same goes for the US.

Well of course. The US won the Gold medal count in 2000 and 2004. I don't remember people thinking it was some huge deal. It is just sports not life or death or anything meaningful. Even among sporting events I would not even put the Olympics in the top 5 events as far as Americans are concerned. People just don't care about table tennis, synchronized diving, weightlifting, ect.

China has 1.3 billion people and they commit money and training of children to many obscure Olympic sports. It is inevitable what the results will be.

malakas
08-26-2008, 06:23 AM
Well of course. The US won the Gold medal count in 2000 and 2004. I don't remember people thinking it was some huge deal. It is just sports not life or death or anything meaningful. Even among sporting events I would not even put the Olympics in the top 5 events as far as Americans are concerned. People just don't care about table tennis, synchronized diving, weightlifting, ect.

China has 1.3 billion people and they commit money and training of children to many obscure Olympic sports. It is inevitable what the results will be.

here we go again.AMERICANS don't care about table tennis,synchronized diving, weightlifting.Same like Greeks don't give a ***** for 100 m butterfly.Don't generalise.

goober
08-26-2008, 06:28 AM
here we go again.AMERICANS don't care about table tennis,synchronized diving, weightlifting.Same like Greeks don't give a ***** for 100 m butterfly.Don't generalise.

What are you going on about? I wasn't generalizing to other countries. I was simply stating a fact. If Greeks don't care about the 100M butterfly, so okay.... what are you upset about?

malakas
08-26-2008, 06:30 AM
What are you going on about? I wasn't generalizing to other countries. I was simply stating a fact. If Greeks don't care about the 100M butterfly, so okay.... what are you upset about?

sorry when you said People just don't care about table tennis, synchronized diving, weightlifting, ect.
by people you meant americans? :p
lol

Phil
08-26-2008, 07:18 AM
sorry when you said by people you meant americans? :p
lol
Oh, I can't believe that we Americans are the ONLY people who don't give rat's arse about synchronized sports. Or weightlifting. I'm guessing that YOU and a few others are the exception here, not "Americans".

helloworld
08-26-2008, 07:36 AM
Oh, I can't believe that we Americans are the ONLY people who don't give rat's arse about synchronized sports. Or weightlifting. I'm guessing that YOU and a few others are the exception here, not "Americans".
Apparently, this is the reason why americans don't win in weightlifting or synchronized sports.

Ignorant Genius
08-26-2008, 07:49 AM
here we go again.AMERICANS don't care about table tennis,synchronized diving, weightlifting.Same like Greeks don't give a ***** for 100 m butterfly.Don't generalise.

Do Greeks not like swimming because they typically don't like to bathe regularly?

shavenyak
08-26-2008, 07:54 AM
Those children were not forced by the government to do Gymnastics. They are willing to devote themselves, because they have passion for the sport. If you don't respect the chinese government, at least respect the athletes who devote their lives to the sport.

B.S. How much "passion for the sport" can a 3-5 year old have. Enough to leave mom and dad for it? You're deluded.

malakas
08-26-2008, 08:01 AM
Do Greeks not like swimming because they typically don't like to bathe regularly?

:lol: :lol: nice

Oh, I can't believe that we Americans are the ONLY people who don't give rat's arse about synchronized sports. Or weightlifting. I'm guessing that YOU and a few others are the exception here, not "Americans".

I am sorry but you are wrong.IWeightlifting n eastern Europe and the Balkans and in China and in Central Asia,IS very popular and interesting and consumes most of television time during the Olympics.And synchronized sports did take great tv ratings at least here,in contrast to olympic football,or swimming.If you take the opinion of many various countries and many million of ppl as "exception" then I guess you're right.:confused:

diegaa
08-26-2008, 08:17 AM
:lol: :lol: nice



I am sorry but you are wrong.IWeightlifting n eastern Europe and the Balkans and in China and in Central Asia,IS very popular and interesting and consumes most of television time during the Olympics.And synchronized sports did take great tv ratings at least here,in contrast to olympic football,or swimming.If you take the opinion of many various countries and many million of ppl as "exception" then I guess you're right.:confused:

i guess in each country is different. here, for example, football took most of ratings, and cycling almost none (just to mention our 2 gold medals).

Ignorant Genius
08-26-2008, 08:19 AM
:lol: :lol: nice

I hope you do know I was joking with you.

Octavianus
08-26-2008, 08:24 AM
That is not true. China's economy is second only to the US with PPP measurement, and 3rd with nominal measurement. In addition, their growth rate is over 11% which is astounding compared to the size of their economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP))


Many people on this board use wikipedia as their Bible. I do not find it as
a very reliable resource and would never use it. In this case I prefer data from reliable business publications. But if the business publications that have read are wrong and in fact China is really doing that well, I am glad for them.

malakas
08-26-2008, 08:38 AM
i guess in each country is different. here, for example, football took most of ratings, and cycling almost none (just to mention our 2 gold medals).

I don't doubt this.Here noone watches olympic football..Only a couple of prof per team,and usually no good quality.The CL quallies and friendlies gather a lot of attention though.

But each country/region is different.Argies would watch ANY football on tv.:p
I hope you do know I was joking with you.

I know.:)

helloworld
08-26-2008, 08:43 AM
Many people on this board use wikipedia as their Bible. I do not find it as
a very reliable resource and would never use it. In this case I prefer data from reliable business publications. But if the business publications that have read are wrong and in fact China is really doing that well, I am glad for them.

Those informations are taken directly from World Bank, IMF, and CIA. They are the most reliable data you could find, unless you have problems with the World Bank, and IMF, which in fact are the two largest and most reliable financial institutions in the world.

shavenyak
08-26-2008, 08:46 AM
Those informations are taken directly from World Bank, IMF, and CIA. They are the most reliable data you could find, unless you have problems with the World Bank, and IMF, which in fact are the two largest and most reliable financial institutions in the world.

Unfortunately for China, a good percentage of their economy is tied to American consumerism. Lets see how their market fares during the economic slowdown ahead.

helloworld
08-26-2008, 09:05 AM
Hmm... somebody just deleted my post about India's sad state in sports. I'm just trying to find a solution for India, you know.

Tallahassee_Technifibre
08-26-2008, 04:59 PM
Watching Walter Dix(who i have seen around FSU), win 2 bronze medals.

Octavianus
08-26-2008, 07:29 PM
ha! technically you dont know what you're talking about. 3rd world country?
First, that term (as well as 1st world and 2nd world countries) are not being used anymore after the fall of berlin's wall and the desintegration of Soviet Union.
If any, China is a 2nd world country as it still remains as comunist one.


Technically I do know what I am talking about. There are three stages of economic development: developing, newly industrializing and developed. Developing countries are often referred to as third world countries. Not politically correct perhaps, but many people still use that term. China is at some stage in between being a developing and a newly industrializing country. Sorry if I have offended you, but I do not care to carry on this debate any longer.

Octavianus
08-26-2008, 08:00 PM
That is not true. China's economy is second only to the US with PPP measurement, and 3rd with nominal measurement. In addition, their growth rate is over 11% which is astounding compared to the size of their economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP))




Sorry, I made a slight mistake. China is in 4th place and not 5th. China is not second only to the U.S., Japan is. Germany is 3rd and China 4th. The United States has a GDP of 13,843,825 (millions of USD) and China has a GDP of 3,250,837 (millions of USD). China’s GDP is about ¼ the GDP of the U.S. Check this link and find out for yourself. If I am not mistaking wikipedia is a resource that you use?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

2007 List by the International Monetary Fund
2007 List by the World Bank
2007 List by the CIA World Factbook

Rank
Country
GDP (millions of USD)

— World
54,311,608
— European Union
16,830,100
1 United States
13,843,825
2 Japan
4,383,762
3 Germany
3,322,147
4 China (PRC)
3,250,827
5 United Kingdom
2,772,570
6 France
2,560,255
7 Italy
2,104,666
8 Spain
1,438,959
9 Canada
1,432,140
10 Brazil
1,313,590

Octavianus
08-26-2008, 08:33 PM
Those informations are taken directly from World Bank, IMF, and CIA. They are the most reliable data you could find, unless you have problems with the World Bank, and IMF, which in fact are the two largest and most reliable financial institutions in the world.


I do not have a problem at all with the World Bank, IMF, and CIA. That is why I suggest you check out this link. It seems to me that YOU find this resource very reliable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

All three, World Bank, IMF, and CIA report that the United States has a GDP of 13,843,825 (millions of USD) 1st in the world and China has a GDP of 3,250,837 (millions of USD) 4th in the world. China’s GDP is about approximately ¼ the GDP of the U.S.
I have reluctantly used your favourite resource, now let’s not continue any further with this topic because I am getting awfully bored using resources that I do not feel quite comfortable with.

helloworld
08-26-2008, 09:56 PM
I do not have a problem at all with the World Bank, IMF, and CIA. That is why I suggest you check out this link. It seems to me that YOU find this resource very reliable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

All three, World Bank, IMF, and CIA report that the United States has a GDP of 13,843,825 (millions of USD) 1st in the world and China has a GDP of 3,250,837 (millions of USD) 4th in the world. China’s GDP is about approximately ¼ the GDP of the U.S.
I have reluctantly used your favourite resource, now let’s not continue any further with this topic because I am getting awfully bored using resources that I do not feel quite comfortable with.

China's GDP maybe 1/4 of the US at the moment, but the US GDP growth rate is 1/10 of China. Think about it.

lethalfang
08-27-2008, 12:43 AM
So I guess the gymnastics commentators were lying during the olympics?

Huh? What exactly did the commentator say?
The ridiculous internet fantasy that "Chinese government takes children from their family and force them into sports academies" is totally baseless and 100% false.

Octavianus
08-27-2008, 07:10 AM
China's GDP maybe 1/4 of the US at the moment, but the US GDP growth rate is 1/10 of China. Think about it.

I AM GLAD that China is doing so well. I would say that it is about time.