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uni
09-06-2008, 05:23 PM
I see that this shock absorber comes in a 2 pack with 2 different colors. on the feedback, ppl say that they are different.

I wanted to know wat the differences were between these 2 were

thanks

UNI

nCode747
09-06-2008, 05:27 PM
the diffrences are one is black and one is red.

Azzurri
09-06-2008, 05:28 PM
To me, the red dampener is softer to the touch. its a bit less stiff, but it seems to have no difference once it is placed on the stringbed.

uni
09-06-2008, 05:29 PM
so the feeling isnt different when actually playing with it?

Azzurri
09-06-2008, 06:13 PM
so the feeling isnt different when actually playing with it?

no, none. you would have to be some type of special human being to be able to tell the difference between any of the typical dampeners.:)

Fedace
09-06-2008, 06:16 PM
no, none. you would have to be some type of special human being to be able to tell the difference between any of the typical dampeners.:)

I think the RED one looks Prettier and more fierce...:) and i think this dampner is way too heavy.

[d]ragon
09-06-2008, 09:54 PM
from what i;ve seen and used:
red dampens more
red is more plasticy and hardens as time goes on
black is more rubbery and softens as time goes on
the red is red and the black is black

Il Mostro
09-06-2008, 10:00 PM
They are the same. The pigment used to create red & black makes no difference whatsoever. I contacted Unique and they laughed at the suggestion that these might be different. The notion that red & black feel different or play differently is typical of some of the idiocy that ferments here.

I use the Pete. They are fine. So is a rubber band. So is just about every other dampener out there.

uni
09-06-2008, 10:23 PM
so are they made out of different materials or just different colors?

and btw i know that the color pigment has nothing to do with how it feels. but ppl say that the red one is softer so i wanted to know for sure

some6uy008
09-06-2008, 11:11 PM
I have always used the O shock since it's cheap, and in my opinion, I think they are exactly the same.

I do prefer the red one though, but mainly because it stands out.

Magnus_CA
09-06-2008, 11:24 PM
I work in the plastics industry and my bet is the red pigment is added to the compound while carbon black is added to the black compound for UV stabilization. So in effect, they are made from different materials and may have a different durometer. I highly doubt these are any different from the silicone grommets sold for industrial/commercial applications. At most they have Sampras' name cut into the mold.

By the way, we sell vinyl grommets for a little over 3.5 cents each in bags of 200. Silicone is more expensive than vinyl but someone is seriously making a killing on these at $1.50 each!

Virtua Tennis
09-06-2008, 11:44 PM
These are the worst dampeners ever they harden like plastic and don't do a real good job. Also I heard that actual Sampras dampeners are soft and rubbery and they're not made by unique.

uni
09-07-2008, 03:49 PM
wait he has a paint job shock absorber haha

JW10S
09-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Sampras used cable grommets...

Azzurri
09-07-2008, 05:27 PM
They are the same. The pigment used to create red & black makes no difference whatsoever. I contacted Unique and they laughed at the suggestion that these might be different. The notion that red & black feel different or play differently is typical of some of the idiocy that ferments here.

I use the Pete. They are fine. So is a rubber band. So is just about every other dampener out there.

The read one is much softer. I thought it may have been just the one in the 2 pack, but I bought 2 more packs and the red is softer in the other 2, so not sure what Unique was laughing at. The black one is more stiff, but it does not seem to make a difference. You obviously never had a set.

Azzurri
09-07-2008, 05:29 PM
Sampras used cable grommets...

That's correct. He did use cable grommets.

Il Mostro
09-07-2008, 05:40 PM
The read one is much softer. I thought it may have been just the one in the 2 pack, but I bought 2 more packs and the red is softer in the other 2, so not sure what Unique was laughing at. The black one is more stiff, but it does not seem to make a difference. You obviously never had a set.

Dude, you are out of your mind. I use them on all my racquets. I just opened a new 2-pack to test the feel -- they are the same. Get off the pipe. Crack kills.

Azzurri
09-07-2008, 06:01 PM
Dude, you are out of your mind. I use them on all my racquets. I just opened a new 2-pack to test the feel -- they are the same. Get off the pipe. Crack kills.

whatever. I and countless others have discussed this in other threads. another poster noted they are made using different materials. won't argue with a liar that never even used them.

watching a game with 2 buddies. they know nothing about tennis. I just gave them the black and red dampener. I asked them to describe the feel. Both said the red is softer and feels more like rubber and the black is harder with a plastic feel. They proceeded to ask me why would I waste my time with nonsense..they don't understand tennis, but they have common sense and both felt the red was softer.

NOTE TO ALL: I noticed something. The O's my buddies felt were new. I just noticed my 2 old, used for at least 6 months black dampeners are much softer than the newer black one. Maybe as they get used they soften, but the new black one is certainly stiffer than the new red one.

Does anyone else have a used older pair and a new out of the package pair??

mendozer
09-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Hmm.......

mendozer
09-07-2008, 07:19 PM
what shock absorbers do others prefer or does it not really matter in your guys opinions?

Lefty5
09-09-2008, 07:59 AM
maybe you got a bad batch. I just got some sampras damps in my last order and they are just as soft as the red ones.

Lefty5
09-09-2008, 08:01 AM
by the way, put a "soft" red one in, then put your "hard" black one in. You will tell no difference.

xr3fgb
09-09-2008, 08:31 AM
By the way, we sell vinyl grommets for a little over 3.5 cents each in bags of 200. Silicone is more expensive than vinyl but someone is seriously making a killing on these at $1.50 each!

wait a second...vinyl grommets as in the replacement grommets some racquet sellers offer per hole? 3.5 cents?? Where can I get a bag?

samprasbackhand
09-09-2008, 08:58 AM
The Red one definitely is softer, and to me, at least, it feels different (I've used these damps for about 3 years). The red one offers a crisper feel, IMO

VGP
09-09-2008, 10:01 AM
I've never used the red ones. I just don't like the look of them. They look like red LifeSavers.

I've been using the black ones for years. Unlike some vinyl grommets, these ones just don't dry out and crack.

Since they don't wear out and don't fall out easily, a couple of them last forever. Besides, I was able to score like 10 packages on clearance at K-mart for $0.25 a pack a few years ago back when they came two black ones per pack.....

The thing I like about the "Sampras O's" is that they dampen less than most dampeners. It's not like they silence your stringbed like bigger ones or worm like dampeners.

Those that say they don't feel little differences just aren't sensitive enough.

BTW, I think rubber bands dampen too much.

Carl The Cannon
09-09-2008, 12:11 PM
whatever. I and countless others have discussed this in other threads. another poster noted they are made using different materials. won't argue with a liar that never even used them.

watching a game with 2 buddies. they know nothing about tennis. I just gave them the black and red dampener. I asked them to describe the feel. Both said the red is softer and feels more like rubber and the black is harder with a plastic feel. They proceeded to ask me why would I waste my time with nonsense..they don't understand tennis, but they have common sense and both felt the red was softer.

NOTE TO ALL: I noticed something. The O's my buddies felt were new. I just noticed my 2 old, used for at least 6 months black dampeners are much softer than the newer black one. Maybe as they get used they soften, but the new black one is certainly stiffer than the new red one.

Does anyone else have a used older pair and a new out of the package pair??

Yeah, I noticed the same ting. The older packages had two different damps in it all most. The black was hard and stiff and the red was springy. The packages I bought four months ago had two springy ones, and the red and black were identical. Once I can post pics I can post a few to show what the black looks like. It is different. Like you noted Slappano it is all about which batch they came from.

-CtC

Carl The Cannon
09-09-2008, 12:14 PM
whatever. I and countless others have discussed this in other threads. another poster noted they are made using different materials. won't argue with a liar that never even used them.

watching a game with 2 buddies. they know nothing about tennis. I just gave them the black and red dampener. I asked them to describe the feel. Both said the red is softer and feels more like rubber and the black is harder with a plastic feel. They proceeded to ask me why would I waste my time with nonsense..they don't understand tennis, but they have common sense and both felt the red was softer.

NOTE TO ALL: I noticed something. The O's my buddies felt were new. I just noticed my 2 old, used for at least 6 months black dampeners are much softer than the newer black one. Maybe as they get used they soften, but the new black one is certainly stiffer than the new red one.

Does anyone else have a used older pair and a new out of the package pair??

Yeah, I noticed the same thing. The older packages had two different damps in it. The black was hard and stiff and the red was springy. The packages I bought four months ago had two springy ones, and the red and black were identical. Once I can post pics I can post a few to show what the black looks like from the old packages as opposed to the newer ones. It is different. Like you noted Slappano it is all about which batch they came from.

-CtC

Magnus_CA
09-10-2008, 03:12 PM
wait a second...vinyl grommets as in the replacement grommets some racquet sellers offer per hole? 3.5 cents?? Where can I get a bag?

We have an order min so you'd have to buy like 2000 and I'm not sure they're the same grommets. They look like the Sampras O's but are made of vinyl. We have them in a variety of sizes. You can PM me if you're interested.

robby c
09-10-2008, 04:08 PM
I buy my o-ring cable grommets at my local hardware store. $1.97 per pack of 4. Find them in the electrical dept.
Robby C

lob-ster
09-11-2008, 08:39 PM
i use both of them at the same time
i hate vibrations

VGP
09-13-2008, 06:31 AM
I buy my o-ring cable grommets at my local hardware store. $1.97 per pack of 4. Find them in the electrical dept.
Robby C

I've tried those and I think they dampen too much, too.

I must like the old harder ones.

I also use these round black "tennis ball" ones from Wilson that came two in a pack with some packages of Wilson Ultra grip. There were yellow ones that came with the black grip, but I didn't like the look of those. These ones dampen about the same as the harder Sampras dampeners.

uni
09-13-2008, 03:29 PM
we havent come to a conclusion

do they or do they not work differently???

Fedace
09-13-2008, 03:37 PM
The Red one definitely is softer, and to me, at least, it feels different (I've used these damps for about 3 years). The red one offers a crisper feel, IMO

Do you feel that you get Crisper feel off the string bed with the red one ? if so i would prefer that. which one do you think is lighter.?:confused:

Fedace
09-14-2008, 01:41 PM
why is the red one better ?

DonBot
09-14-2008, 02:21 PM
I have a bunch of the harder old black ones for my ps85s. I never noticed any difference what so ever as compared to the reds. I actaully tried hitting both when I got them as if you read the reviews in the tw page where you buy it from, some of the reviews say there is a difference. I never noticed it personally.