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Rorsach
10-19-2008, 05:09 AM
An ode to the classic racquets from Snauwaert, the manufacturer from Belgium.

They were the first (afaik) to engrave the weight and balancepoint of that particular stick on the racquet, making it very easy to find comparable frames. And who can forgot their (failed) adventure with the Ergonom.
Some of the pro's that used Snauwaert were Mikael Pernfors, Vitas Gerulaitis and Miloslav Mečíř.


There's very little information about Snauwaert to be found on the internet, so anyone that has some info, please post it in this thread.

Also feel free to add pictures from your frames.


I'll start with my small collection from this innovative company (click the pics for the full screen version):


http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9594/img0803mz2.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0803mz2.jpg)http://img291.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Picture 1:
ATP Tour 103
ATP Tour 93
ATP Tour 85
Hi-Ten 50
Hi-Ten 30
Mikael Pernfors

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5290/img0804hq6.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0804hq6.jpg)
Picture 2:
Comp Dyno (2x)
Dyneema S60
Vitas Gerulaitis AUtograph

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/24/img0805in1.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0805in1.jpg)
Picture 3:
Ergonom
Comp Mid
Cosmos Pro
Graphite Mid

Il Mostro
10-19-2008, 05:53 AM
Great collection. I wish I could find a Hi Ten here is the USA, but they never seem to surface. In fact, other than the Ergonom's, it is rare to find Snauwaerts in good condition here. I love the attention to detail in these racquets.

galain
10-19-2008, 06:06 AM
Really nice collection Rorschach. I'd give my left arm (well, not really, but you could have my wife) for one of the Hi Tens. I've only ever seen one come up for auction - always been curious.

Rorsach
10-19-2008, 06:10 AM
I'd give my left arm (well, not really, but you could have my wife) for one of the Hi Tens.

Thanks, but no thanks. I'm having trouble enough with my own spouse.

Rorsach
10-19-2008, 08:00 AM
i was fully sponsored by Snauwaert back in the day. played the Kodes Auto (International Club) (still have one), then the FibreComp (have at least a couple around here). The Gottfried Auto was a popular one.

mine were always 360 320 5 LM

Post pics plz.

SirBlend12
10-19-2008, 08:33 AM
Hell yeah! Someone finally started the Snauwaert club. Big fan of the ATP Tour 85's. I've got 2 that were made for Lacoste and are PJ'ed as such. Neat little rubber stopper and all.

vsbabolat
10-19-2008, 10:02 AM
I am a big fan of Snauwaert racquets. I used and still have the Brian Gottfried Autograph, Vitas Gerulaitis Autograph, And Vitas Gerulaitis Graphite Pro Mid.

treblings
10-19-2008, 11:40 AM
i was fully sponsored by Snauwaert back in the day. played the Kodes Auto (International Club) (still have one)

Snauwaert&Depla Kodes is a beautiful racket. i have one in vg condition. there must have been different versions of that racket?

i used to play the Gottfried Autograph(fully sponsored by my parents)
Later on the ATP 93 and the Pernfors Autograph.

at a flea-market i found 2 MCE 9003 with signature by McEnroe and a 10x9 string pattern. you can get incredible spin with that racket and the strings break after 10 to 15 min:)

Martingale
10-19-2008, 12:59 PM
Loved them in the 80s. Had a few of the Graphite rackets, but somehow the ones I owned and have hidden out of reach in the attic seemed to have been blue and yellow. I really played some of my best tennis with them. Last time I checked them, I noticed I left the original gut string on them, and the tension not only has pulled the strings through the grommets, but has actually carved canyons into the graphite as well!

galain
10-19-2008, 01:03 PM
Ed

I used to have Victor Imperial Blue in an old Volkl TR30 - really nice strings! That brought back some memories.

(sorry - not trying to derail the thread)

treblings
10-19-2008, 01:26 PM
not a picture sort of guy



The one I have has the old Snauwaert Superman 'S' logo and not the last stylized S...it is white ash w. a blue vulcan fibre reinforced shaft. His autograph on one side on the throat and his name in block letters on the other side.

This is an 18 mains frame. 18 mains on a 65 sq inch frame is a VERY closed pattern. Mine is tubed and power padded in the throat and has Victor Imperial blue spiral gut. It is still very playable. It's a really exceptional racquet which is very attractive...the sweetest looking racquet to me was the Adidas Hallet..mine were both light and very headlight,,nastase used these for quite some while

From the description it sounds like my Kodes. S D for Snauwaert&Depla on the Buttcap.
But i had to count the strings twice, because my model has 21 mains and 18!
That is a very closed pattern.

agree on the Haillet, haven´t seen one in decades.

daveyboy
10-20-2008, 08:55 AM
I'll post pics of mine soon...the hi ten, the meso fibre, the graohite la grande, the graphite pro and its interations....love them all. Especially the Golden Mid.

retrowagen
10-20-2008, 11:18 AM
...love them all. Especially the Golden Mid.

The Golden Mid is my favorite Snauwaert of all time. I also like the Graphite Mid and Dyno, and the Boron Mid and Dyno, and the Brian Gottfried Graphite Mid and Tomas Smid Graphite Mid (both actually mostly wood composites, as used by Miloslav Mecir).

Snauwaert/Depla was one of the last vestiges of old school wood craftsmanship, and tried very hard to be innovative (albeit while still holding on to traditional materials) in the 1980's. They get full marks for:

Warren Bosworth designed rackets

Marketing the first commercially-available oversized racket (predating the Howard Head-designed Prince Classic!)

The Carlo Gibello-designed Ergonom rackets (a commercial flop, but proof positive of how far they would push the traditional+modern formula of racket design)

Use of "modern" fibers (Kevlar/aramides, Boron) in their layups years before the larger brands took the plunge

I still enjoy playing with old Snauwaerts occasionally. On a slower court, it's hard to imagine a better racket for baseline play. If they were still making rackets in Belgium, I'd still be buying their gear consistently...

treblings
10-20-2008, 11:47 AM
The Golden Mid is my favorite Snauwaert of all time. I also like the Graphite Mid and Dyno, and the Boron Mid and Dyno, and the Brian Gottfried Graphite Mid and Tomas Smid Graphite Mid (both actually mostly wood composites, as used by Miloslav Mecir).

Never heard of the Smid model. Was the Gerulaitis a similar racket? And i always thought Mecir had his own signature racket.

Fabrice Leroy
10-20-2008, 03:40 PM
My first racquet in 1978 was a Snauwaert Caravelle strung with Victor Imperial. What a beauty it was! Snauwaert made wonderful wood racquets and had some of the most skilled workers of the wood racquet era. True perfectionists. But they did not really handle the switch to graphite very well (although their Graphite Mid and the Dyno series were excellent frames) and had distribution problems outside of Europe. I think they went under around 1992. Their last generation of widebody frames (Dyneema S60, etc) were also pretty good. They tried to hire McEnroe as a last ditch effort, but all he did was stencil an "S" on his Max 200Gs. Their other sponsored players (Gottfried, Kodes, Smid, Gerulaitis, etc.) apparently did not do enough for the visibility of the brand. Snauwaert also had the first polyester string I can recall, called "Dyno" as well. It had the color of dark brown taffy (and played like it, too).

netman
10-20-2008, 06:35 PM
My Snauwaerts:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/K_K_Bucket/P1010057.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/K_K_Bucket/SnauwaertGraphiteDyno.jpg

Both acquired at thrift stores for a couple of bucks. Enjoy taking them out for a hit once in a while.

-k-

Il Mostro
10-20-2008, 06:57 PM
^^^^^

You know who to call if you feel like thinning the herd. :-)

vsbabolat
10-20-2008, 07:18 PM
My first racquet in 1978 was a Snauwaert Caravelle strung with Victor Imperial. What a beauty it was! Snauwaert made wonderful wood racquets and had some of the most skilled workers of the wood racquet era. True perfectionists. But they did not really handle the switch to graphite very well (although their Graphite Mid and the Dyno series were excellent frames) and had distribution problems outside of Europe. I think they went under around 1992. Their last generation of widebody frames (Dyneema S60, etc) were also pretty good. They tried to hire McEnroe as a last ditch effort, but all he did was stencil an "S" on his Max 200Gs. Their other sponsored players (Gottfried, Kodes, Smid, Gerulaitis, etc.) apparently did not do enough for the visibility of the brand. Snauwaert also had the first polyester string I can recall, called "Dyno" as well. It had the color of dark brown taffy (and played like it, too).

I remember when McEnroe Had the Snauwaert "S" stencil on the strings of his Dunlop Max 200G in 1990.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/John_McEnroe_1990_AusOpen_Snauwaert.jpg

JW10S
10-20-2008, 07:21 PM
Snauwaert made some terrific wood racquets. I was less impressed with their aluminum and graphite racquets but their wood racquets were great.

mctennis
11-03-2008, 04:24 AM
I have the one with the added stability shaft under the head to the grip.

Steve Huff
11-03-2008, 12:09 PM
I used the Boronite II for several years--even after the oversized frames started coming out. It was basically a wood frame with some boron to stiffen it/make it stronger in the throat area. It was thin, even for a wood frame. Had a sweetspot the size of a dime, but it really played well. I don't know whatever happened to it though. My wife swears she didn't throw it out, but I suspect she did.

treblings
11-03-2008, 12:17 PM
I used the Boronite II for several years--even after the oversized frames started coming out. It was basically a wood frame with some boron to stiffen it/make it stronger in the throat area. It was thin, even for a wood frame. Had a sweetspot the size of a dime, but it really played well. I don't know whatever happened to it though. My wife swears she didn't throw it out, but I suspect she did.

i seem to remember it. was that a black or dark colored racket?

Thepowerofchoice
11-05-2008, 07:53 PM
I saw many brand new Ergonom Graphite Tennis racquet by Snauwaert on :)bay in UK

treblings
11-05-2008, 10:25 PM
I saw many brand new Ergonom Graphite Tennis racquet by Snauwaert on :)bay in UK

yeah me too. and most of the time the rackets are described as "rare" in the product description:)

Rorsach
11-06-2008, 12:43 AM
I saw many brand new Ergonom Graphite Tennis racquet by Snauwaert on :)bay in UK

I bought one from that guy.

It would be rude not to for that money (about 5 quid)

treblings
11-06-2008, 06:11 AM
I bought one from that guy.

It would be rude not to for that money (about 5 quid)

:)agreed

actually it´s quite a good racket. played a double with it last week(seriously)

Thepowerofchoice
11-06-2008, 12:11 PM
:)agreed

actually it´s quite a good racket. played a double with it last week(seriously)

Great info. I think I'm going to buy one because of the great deal and to see people reaction when I pull this funky racquet out from my bag. Does anyone have the spec. on this racquet?

treblings
11-06-2008, 12:22 PM
Great info. I think I'm going to buy one because of the great deal and to see people reaction when I pull this funky racquet out from my bag. Does anyone have the spec. on this racquet?

Other people´s reaction is where the fun is with this racket:)
i put it on a scale, it´s 375g strung and with overgrip. heavier than i would have thought, but obviously head-light.
i can tell you it is very flexible. whether that´s the way the racket was supposed to be or just a matter of age is something i don´t know.

Colpo
11-07-2008, 07:13 AM
Great brand. My two favorites were the Pernfors and a dark-green, super-simple graphite mid that came out around the same time that Jonas B. Svensson and Mecir both used. Awesome feel, like it had a bouncy rubber core. The Pernfors was just beautifully balanced and of course also had great feel. Viva Belgian-made racquets!

plasma
11-07-2008, 07:53 AM
graphite dyno nwt (like r22 but smaller head!!!)
graphite mid (same head size and shape as my wps 85!)
graphite la grande (small headed mid 80?sq in)

I would like to be added as a new member, how about the rectangular rossignol like old skool grip, insane.....ahhhhh

plasma
02-13-2009, 01:00 PM
mods pls move this thread to CRT, I thought the snauwaert "S" was a check mark...took only 25 yrs. to figure out....

Bud
02-13-2009, 06:36 PM
^^^^^

You know who to call if you feel like thinning the herd. :-)

Especially with that Hi-Ten 30 :twisted:

ChocoLab
02-13-2009, 07:50 PM
I used the Graphite Mid when I first qualified for a USTA ranking in 14s. My dad never played tennis, but he said that was his favorite of all the dozen or so different rackets I used as a kid.

Interestingly, I bought a couple off **** a couple years ago for nostalgia's sake, and one of them was the exact same gray and red, but had a different name at the top. I believe it was maybe S2000 or something?... I think I still have one of the two somewhere -- maybe I'll post a pic of it.

And even though I never hit one or even saw one in person, I always loved the look of the Brian Gottfried wood model. Supposedly it was the same frame as the Gerulaitis (and IIRC preceded it) but with a more traditional paint scheme. I've even halfway thought about buying one of the new ones from TW.

Bud
02-13-2009, 10:54 PM
I saw many brand new Ergonom Graphite Tennis racquet by Snauwaert on :)bay in UK

I bought one from that guy.

It would be rude not to for that money (about 5 quid)

I bought a number of them from him (6 or so)... I have a feeling once his cache of Ergonoms is gone... that will be it! He somehow got the lion's share of the remaining deadstock frames from the Snauwaert factory/warehouses. I believe he had over 1,000 at one point. He's down to about 300-400 now.

Also, the exchange rate is favorable for the Dollar to Pound, currently... so you can pick up 4 Ergonoms, shipping included to the USA for about $58.00! :shock:

These are bound to be ultra-rare someday. He really drove the price into the ground, temporarily, by offering up so many Ergonoms to the market, at one time.

Imagine the lucky person who bought all the dead stock for the Hi-Tens!! :twisted:

Kirko
02-13-2009, 11:05 PM
An ode to the classic racquets from Snauwaert, the manufacturer from Belgium.

They were the first (afaik) to engrave the weight and balancepoint of that particular stick on the racquet, making it very easy to find comparable frames. And who can forgot their (failed) adventure with the Ergonom.
Some of the pro's that used Snauwaert were Mikael Pernfors, Vitas Gerulaitis and Miloslav Mečíř.


There's very little information about Snauwaert to be found on the internet, so anyone that has some info, please post it in this thread.

Also feel free to add pictures from your frames.


I'll start with my small collection from this innovative company (click the pics for the full screen version):


http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9594/img0803mz2.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0803mz2.jpg)http://img291.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Picture 1:
ATP Tour 103
ATP Tour 93
ATP Tour 85
Hi-Ten 50
Hi-Ten 30
Mikael Pernfors

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5290/img0804hq6.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0804hq6.jpg)
Picture 2:
Comp Dyno (2x)
Dyneema S60
Vitas Gerulaitis AUtograph

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/24/img0805in1.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0805in1.jpg)
Picture 3:
Ergonom
Comp Mid
Cosmos Pro
Graphite Mid

add Brad Gilbert to the list of pros .

Deuce
02-14-2009, 02:16 AM
My Serve

Your Serve

Kirko
02-14-2009, 06:23 AM
My Serve

Your Serve

oy you have a good memory Deuce !!! I forgot about that on the butt cap.

Dino Lagaffe
02-14-2009, 07:34 AM
Great info. I think I'm going to buy one because of the great deal and to see people reaction when I pull this funky racquet out from my bag. Does anyone have the spec. on this racquet?

I measured mine @:

Weight: 377 g / 13.30 oz
Flex: 51
SW: 347

Rorsach
02-20-2009, 04:13 AM
I got some more Snauwaerts. It looks like deadstock from the final days of the company:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2159/snauwaert1kq8.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snauwaert1kq8.jpg)

mctennis
02-21-2009, 05:15 AM
I've got one that has the extra brace down from the bottom of the head. I think it is a Eclipse something. It actually has Johnny Mac's signature on it that he is is on their committee.

Jdavid
02-24-2009, 10:18 PM
Some oldies I found lying around my parent's house...


Graphite Pro (brand new, unused), Graphite Composite, and Golden Dyno
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3307928859_bced6c1380_b.jpg

Close up of Graphite Composite
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3308759962_40921db8f4.jpg

And of course the old racquet bag
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/3308759102_89bdb15dae.jpg

Fabrice Leroy
02-25-2009, 06:51 AM
I actually had that racquet bag as a kid, but in blue!

Snauwaert also made tennis balls, sold in a brown metal can. I don't know if they manufactured them or had them made by another company and simply re-badged them. Probably the latter. There were interesting brands of tennis balls in the late seventies, like Tretorn, Pirelli, and Nassau.

goldenyama
02-25-2009, 06:59 AM
My Snauwaerts:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/K_K_Bucket/P1010057.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/K_K_Bucket/SnauwaertGraphiteDyno.jpg

Both acquired at thrift stores for a couple of bucks. Enjoy taking them out for a hit once in a while.

-k-

So...either that Hi-Ten 30 really has a headsize of 30sq in or it has the most open string pattern I have ever seen! That must produce some sick spin - what does it sound like when hitting a ball!?

netman
02-25-2009, 07:31 AM
So...either that Hi-Ten 30 really has a headsize of 30sq in or it has the most open string pattern I have ever seen! That must produce some sick spin - what does it sound like when hitting a ball!?

Its roughly a 95 head, so yes it is a very open string pattern that should be strung at a 80+ lb tension. That was the point of the design.

Sound isn't that unique. But you can almost slice fuzz off the ball with it. Unfortunately I don't have the thick gauge strings (12 or 13 gauge I think) that were recommended for it so I'm not close to tapping the true spin potential.

thomas martinez
02-25-2009, 05:53 PM
There is one rare frame which is almost impossible to find. Snauwaert did design McEnroe a frame. It looked just like the 200G in terms of beam shape, head size and the like. Even to the plastic a the top of the handle like the 200G. Differences were colour, it was a greyish colour. It had a different 18 x 19 string pattern I believe, and the third and most important difference, the materials. It was a conventional graphite lay up, unlike the grafil injection of the 200G. On another note about Johnny Mac, he did in the 80s use some other Dunlop frames, though sparingly. They were made in Germany frames, which had the different weighting systems you could adjust with the ball bearings. I forgot the models of them, he even used one at the US Open one year.

plasma
02-25-2009, 06:12 PM
I really wish that this fanclub didn't exist, these racquets are great and should be kept under the radar....mods who delete this thread will recieve choice of nwt lendl gtx pro or nwt prostaff (china) 85.

Virginia
02-25-2009, 06:29 PM
thomas martinez, that would be the Competition or Competition Plus, with the ball bearings. I have a brand new one, still has plastic on the handle and the tags too - made in West Germany and bought as deadstock from a German seller.

vsbabolat
02-25-2009, 06:47 PM
There is one rare frame which is almost impossible to find. Snauwaert did design McEnroe a frame. It looked just like the 200G in terms of beam shape, head size and the like. Even to the plastic a the top of the handle like the 200G. Differences were colour, it was a greyish colour. It had a different 18 x 19 string pattern I believe, and the third and most important difference, the materials. It was a conventional graphite lay up, unlike the grafil injection of the 200G. On another note about Johnny Mac, he did in the 80s use some other Dunlop frames, though sparingly. They were made in Germany frames, which had the different weighting systems you could adjust with the ball bearings. I forgot the models of them, he even used one at the US Open one year.

McEnroe used the Max Competition at the 1987 U.S. Open. I still have one along with a Slazenger Panther Pro Ceramic that was out of the same mold.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Mac1987.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Mac1987a.jpg

plasma
02-25-2009, 07:06 PM
very impressive that muscular connors with his tough game, and Mac who was loose like Muhammed Ali both enjoyed the same mold, thanks to Mr. T Martinez for the excellent account of the snauwaert 200g, heard of it but have never seen one, talk about a rare clone!!!!

jimbo333
02-27-2009, 02:32 AM
Yes the Snauwaert 200G would be a really rare one. I had also heard about this, but didn't know it was a Snauwaert frame?
If anyone out there has photos of this, please put them up here:):)

plasma
02-27-2009, 08:23 PM
ok mods, I've upped the bribe to 2 ps 85's or a 9/10 prestige pro, take my shnauwaerts off the radar...please!. Snauwaert was the Prince or Wilson back in the day in almost every country except the US, their quality was exceptional, their engineers were the best ever, descended form engineers who came from a company that I am sworn (by the son of its founder) not to mention. A an individual that designed and created the racquet of a repeated wimbeldon singles champ. The Snauwaert was 80's engineering brilliance defined. Even early in the century (circa 1925) they made kickass 3 prongs, mids, and everything you could imagine!!!

roundiesee
02-28-2009, 01:07 AM
I remember when I was a kid I used to wander into the sports section of the main dept store and ogle at all the beautiful Snauwaert woods hanging on the wall. They all looked so wonderfully different from the others, almost making the Maxplys and Kramers look vulgar! Didn't have any money then so could only hold them momentarily. If I could go back in time I would but them all up.....

dataseviltwin
03-14-2009, 10:26 PM
Out of 50 post hel... ummm... heck, and seeing if this works as planned.

3 Snauwaerts:
Ergonom, Graphite Composite, and Jan Kodes
http://s720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/dataseviltwin/snauwaerts/?action=view&current=3snauwaerts-1.jpg

Jan Kodes Closeup
http://s720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/dataseviltwin/snauwaerts/?action=view&current=snauwaert-Jan-Jodes-m.jpg

Graphite Comp Closeup
http://s720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/dataseviltwin/snauwaerts/?action=view&current=snauwaert-yokecloseup.jpg

My fave's the Graphite Comp. Was used (not this particular one, but the model) by Kathy Rinaldi during her days in the juniors. Interesting thing about the Graphite Comp is that there's a tie-off string hole that "marries up" with another string hole on the inside of the racket (2 holes on the outside of the frame [one under the frame, one outside the frame], one on the inside).

Hopefully this works... :)

dataseviltwin
03-14-2009, 10:32 PM
Coolest racket ever... :)
Some oldies I found lying around my parent's house...


Graphite Pro (brand new, unused), Graphite Composite, and Golden Dyno
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3307928859_bced6c1380_b.jpg

Close up of Graphite Composite
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3308759962_40921db8f4.jpg

And of course the old racquet bag
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/3308759102_89bdb15dae.jpg

Virginia
03-15-2009, 01:29 AM
Is that Graphite Pro the Gerulaitis signature model? Mine has the signature on the handle and on the leather grip as well.

vsbabolat
03-15-2009, 01:33 AM
The photo of the Graphite Pro is the Original standard head size version. The Graphite Pro with Gerulaitis' signature is the Graphite Pro Mid. Not to be confused the the more flexible Graphite Mid that was a kind of grey color.

Virginia
03-15-2009, 01:44 AM
Ah, thanks for that, vsbabolat - I'm always truly amazed at your seemingly endless racquet knowledge. I'm an absolute novice in contrast. :)

May I ask whether you are or were involved in the racquet industry?

Rorsach
03-18-2009, 10:30 AM
There is one rare frame which is almost impossible to find. Snauwaert did design McEnroe a frame. It looked just like the 200G in terms of beam shape, head size and the like. Even to the plastic a the top of the handle like the 200G. Differences were colour, it was a greyish colour. It had a different 18 x 19 string pattern I believe, and the third and most important difference, the materials. It was a conventional graphite lay up, unlike the grafil injection of the 200G.

Managed to find a couple of pics of this mythical stick±

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1738/mce01.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1707/mce02.jpg

jimbo333
03-18-2009, 12:08 PM
WOW!!!

It certainly looks a bit like a 200G:)

Has grommets, not that that's a surprise mind you:)

plasma
03-19-2009, 09:26 AM
these come from somewhere back in my "long ago", guess I'm a fool for trying to re-create was has yet to be created...
http://i39.tinypic.com/notv1t.jpg

sentimental fool....someday.....somewhere....

vsbabolat
03-19-2009, 10:30 AM
Managed to find a couple of pics of this mythical stick±

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1738/mce01.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1707/mce02.jpg

Wow very cool.:)

retrowagen
03-19-2009, 11:44 AM
Wow very cool.:)

Indeed! Looks to have the same shape and architecture as the Max 200g, but it has the same stringing pattern as the Snauwaert Mid and Dyno series frames of the 80's! Very interesting...

Hannah19
03-20-2009, 12:55 PM
Just activated my acount today, love this forum. I bought my first Snauwaert when I was on holiday in the US back in 1981.
It was an aluminum racket, the one still sold on tenniswarehouse in the vintage racket section. Beautiful frame, played like a dream untill I dropped it hard on its head during a killer service. In 1986 I bought another Snauwaert in Austria. I don't know the model but it was black and had a white and red stripe on it. I believe it was a signature model from Gerulaitis. It had a normal round shaped head. If anyone has a picture, please post it!!
Recently I discovered that there is a lively collectorsmarket for vintage rackets. I was lucky enough, just like Rorsach, to get my hands on some Snauwaert deadstock here in Holland.
Not as many, but still!!
If you are looking for the Touch-H, Force-H, Grand-H, Touch-C or Touch-F, let me know!!

Hannah19
03-27-2009, 05:11 AM
Managed to find a couple of pics of this mythical stick±

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1738/mce01.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1707/mce02.jpg

I,m not sure about this being a Snauwaert.
I have got a Snauwaert MCE 001 which looks exactly like the one shown in the pics. Color, print layout, signature, everything is identical: except the fact that the frame is totally different. Slender, max. 15mm wide and has about a 95 sq.in. headsize.
The one in these pics looks like a 200G with the Snauwaert MCE 001 print on it, probably made for McEnroe for tournament play.
I could be wrong though, but it seems pointless to make two totally different versions of one and the same racquet, assuming this one is also called the MCE 001.

Rule26
03-27-2009, 05:25 AM
Count me in.

Ifound my old Boron .. I think it will be allowed in the wooden racquet challenges.. If it is I'll string it with the Pacific Blue Spiral mock Imperial.

jimbo333
03-27-2009, 05:38 AM
everything is identical: except the fact that the frame is totally different.

This made me laugh:)

Although I do see what you meant:)

Any chance of putting up photo of the other racquet?

Hannah19
03-27-2009, 11:45 AM
I want to put up some pictures if only I knew HOW!!:evil:

I just joined this forum and I have no clue how to upload pics.:confused:
Usually it is a breeze but here, I can't figure it out.
Does anyone else have a MCE 001 laying around or am I the only one who happened to stumble on one.

Let me know,
Regards, Hans (Holland).

vsbabolat
03-27-2009, 11:51 AM
I want to put up some pictures if only I knew HOW!!:evil:

I just joined this forum and I have no clue how to upload pics.:confused:
Usually it is a breeze but here, I can't figure it out.
Does anyone else have a MCE 001 laying around or am I the only one who happened to stumble on one.

Let me know,
Regards, Hans (Holland).

You have down load them first to imageshack.com or photobucket.com some sort of images hosting site. Then paste the IMG code into your post.

McEnroe with the Snauwaert "S" stencil on the strings of his Dunlop Max 200G in 1990.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/John_McEnroe_1990_AusOpen_Snauwaert.jpg

Rorsach
03-31-2009, 08:23 AM
Made a string logo for all those ancient Snauwaert sticks. Just print and cut it out.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U3MCNQ2H

plasma
03-31-2009, 10:39 AM
is that John McEnroe or Tony Montana???
http://i41.tinypic.com/2i7r1us.jpg
ju khannoh be serious mhayne, dis ball is on dha ligne mhayne....

ilian
04-25-2009, 02:23 PM
McEnroe used the Max Competition at the 1987 U.S. Open. I still have one along with a Slazenger Panther Pro Ceramic that was out of the same mold.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Mac1987.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Mac1987a.jpg

I hold the Slanzenger Panther Pro Ceramic in my hands, while I am looking at the pictures of the Dunlop Max Competition and it seems to me as if they are not exactly the same. The Dunlop seems to have a longer graphite piece below the throat hole, before the grip starts...

vsbabolat
04-25-2009, 03:05 PM
I hold the Slanzenger Panther Pro Ceramic in my hands, while I am looking at the pictures of the Dunlop Max Competition and it seems to me as if they are not exactly the same. The Dunlop seems to have a longer graphite piece below the throat hole, before the grip starts...

McEnroe does not have the grip wrapped all the way to the top. I own both the Dunlop Max Competition and the Panther Pro Ceramic they are identical molds.

P.S. they are one piece racquets.

gpt
04-26-2009, 06:33 PM
This is a great read so thanks for all the info. I have a Snauwaert Gerulaitis wood . It's a Vitas Champion. I am familiar with the Vitas Autograph but know nothing about the champion. Saw plenty of Auto's here in Australia in the 80's. The champ is predominantly silver with red and blue. It's Belgian made of ash with a fibre reinforced head. Is this a lower end racquet? It has a lovely brown leather grip with Snauwaert written in gold along with Vitas' signature. Any info would be appreciated.

Gorecki
06-20-2009, 10:15 AM
hi there guys... what do we reckon about the Snauwaert Dyno Masters?

not the blue one but a mate black with a blue gold stripe in pro staff classic fashion!


i have just found one....

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/P1010078.jpg

ilian
06-20-2009, 10:44 AM
McEnroe does not have the grip wrapped all the way to the top. I own both the Dunlop Max Competition and the Panther Pro Ceramic they are identical molds.

P.S. they are one piece racquets.

Do they feel the same way in play? Are they made of the same materials? Every now and then I see one of those Dunlops for sale and I am very tempted to buy it, but I always think that since the Panther Pro Ceramic is the same racquet, I don't really need another...

vsbabolat
06-20-2009, 10:50 AM
Do they feel the same way in play? Are they made of the same materials? Every now and then I see one of those Dunlops for sale and I am very tempted to buy it, but I always think that since the Panther Pro Ceramic is the same racquet, I don't really need another...

The Max Competition is Graphite and Kevlar. I liked the Max Competition better it felt like it was more flexible to me.

Back in the 80's the racquet companies would make many racquets using the same mold but would change the layup.

ilian
06-20-2009, 11:12 AM
The Max Competition is Graphite and Kevlar. I liked the Max Competition better it felt like it was more flexible to me.

Back in the 80's the racquet companies would make many racquets using the same mold but would change the layup.

Thanks for that info! I might get one of the Dunlops then. You made me curious... I love flexible racquets and there is no better decade than the 80s for that since then they made them more flexible.

PSO67
07-27-2009, 12:42 PM
Used to have a few, the greenish ones that Miroslav Mecir played with - what's the model called?

ericsson
07-27-2009, 10:44 PM
Used to have a few, the greenish ones that Miroslav Mecir played with - what's the model called?

"Graphite Mid" , wonderful stick!

NoNameZ
07-30-2009, 12:04 PM
I have a Snauwaert Ellipse-Touch H. Is that any good? Specs? Thanks in advance

Rorsach
07-30-2009, 12:23 PM
I have a Snauwaert Ellipse-Touch H. Is that any good? Specs? Thanks in advance

Specs are mostly on the frame itself. It's 93 sq.in. and a stiffness rating of 70 (i think, it's on the top of the hoop). Weight is 326 grams iirc.

Check here: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=246578

NoNameZ
07-31-2009, 10:20 AM
Thanks a lot Rorsach! It's a nice racket. The only thing was the strings were strung a bit too low. Recommendations?

Rule26
11-23-2009, 04:00 PM
I only had a chance to briefly take a few hits with my Boronite II this summer and put it away. My club is having a charity wooden racquet doubles tournament this weekend, so I had it restrung with the blue spiral gut.

Just wanted to share my hour of practice at the expense of a doubles match.

Wow - you really could feel the flex on every hit. I thought my serves would suffer the most, but while serving conservatively - at just under the same speed as usual, (not really trying to do anything except making clean contact with good spin) there seemed to be plenty of power available.

I could tell that I wasn't able to generate as much topspin on all shots, but the forehand really felt good.

My backhand return / half volleys & blocks really suffered from a lack of power.

Once I seemed to adjust to the racquet, I was better able to hit through the ball on the backhand.

My opponents did not notice much of a difference in whether the ball was heavier or lighter but did comment that it was unfair that I was practicing with it at the expense of our doubles league. Without going into scoring - they still kept the ball away from me even though I wasn't able to be as much of a factor as usual.

Anyway - I just hoping to honor Snauwaert when I play this weekend.

destan
01-08-2010, 03:29 PM
I have a pair of Snauwaert Golden Mids, given to me by a friend.

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/tandesmond/SnauwaertGM.jpg

There are some numbers engraved on the racket (eg, "4, 360, 310") - assume that it is the Grip size, weight, balance(?).

Does anyone know the full specs (Head size, balance, etc)?

mctennis
01-10-2010, 10:53 AM
I have a Snauwaert Ellipse-Touch H. Is that any good? Specs? Thanks in advance

I've got the same racquet. That's the one that has Johnny Mac's signature on the side as part of their "team".

chrisheile
01-24-2010, 05:00 PM
Ellipse Pro-C. 2 bucks at a garage sale this summer. Had it restrung and regripped. Plays pretty well.