Nptr ranking and tips.

[Demoneye]

rate me and help me strokes and foot work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cwrjSJoHk

[Headshotterer]

your playing style is similar to mine

[Gee Willikers Batman!]

I would say, pretty solid 3.0. Your backhand is particularly pretty solid looking. Is it your favorite side?

[RestockingTues]

Footwork's pretty unspectacular, let's see you play a couple points! :D

Tip: Ask your hitting partner to hit to corners so you can work on moving a bit more.

[SystemicAnomaly]

I would say, pretty solid 3.0. Your backhand is particularly pretty solid looking. Is it your favorite side?

These strokes & footwork are much better than any 3.0 I've ever witnessed, better than many 3.5 players for that matter. Hard to say from this rally if the OP could play 4.0 or higher tho'.

Looks like you move your head/eyes too soon. Doesn't appear that you even look at the contact zone for some shots. Make a habit of fixating, head & eyes, on the contact zone just prior to contact, during contact, and for a short time after contact. Don't move your head until your finish is nearly complete or, at least, until you see your racket swing thru the contact zone. Refer to slo-mo vids of Federer & Nadal to see how long they keep their head still & eyes trained on the contact zone.

[Dreamer]

I like your strokes I think they're very smooth and pretty. I think you can hit with more extension. Maybe because it's just practice, but you like to watch the ball instead of recovering faster.
I wouldn't rate you below 3.5. Based on technique I would say 4.0 or higher. But I agree it's hard to tell from rally, it's very lax.

[smoothtennis]

Rating could be anywhere from 3.5 - low/mid 4.0.

Let me just say, you have very nice looking strokes from the waist up. I mean that in a positive way. Your lower body is for the most part - disconnected from what you are doing in your stroke.

While that is not optimal, Hey - this is good too. Good because you have something that is what I would call very significant that can be worked on and improved - resulting in a big improvement in your strokes.

I hesitate to mess with your strokes on a forum and tell you something wrong. I do want to say your upper body is relaxed, and has a good coordination. So start to think about bending and loading your legs better, and having a nice smooth release into the ball. So now you should be adding another layer of coiling and loading to what you are already doing.

On the forehand, start beign keely aware of the extension of the left arm across your body when the ball hits the court.

Lastly, for a guy who doesn't load his legs, that is one pretty solid looking backhand. Uncomplicated, smooth, well timed, and it looks like you could hit 100 of them in a row.

Consider building your game into something special. It's such a rewarding investment.

[smoothtennis]

These strokes & footwork are much better than any 3.0 I've ever witnessed, better than many 3.5 players for that matter.

Without a doubt. My observation as well SA.

[raiden031]

I would say, pretty solid 3.0. Your backhand is particularly pretty solid looking. Is it your favorite side?

When I was at 3.0 Nationals I swear every player looked just like this guy!

NOT!

[Demoneye]

hey thanks for tip i will try to get another video of me playing
prolly be my serve and volleying. im a serve and volleyer so hope u can help me that too becuase i definitely need help on that.

[Demoneye]

I would say, pretty solid 3.0. Your backhand is particularly pretty solid looking. Is it your favorite side?

yes i like my backhand alot. its the shot i know i can hit pretty good. i tried to make it into a weapon but, while i tried to that. my forehand got crappy. so now i trying to make a better forehand. also i dun think im 3.0 either XD hope.
SO much Rain......

[asafi2]

not a 3.0 at all...i would agree with the strong 3.5 to weak 4.0...your forehand isnt very penetrating, but solid strokes overall.

[spiritdragon]

hey demon, one thing u could work on is to kep your feet moving and to really try to bend your knees. u'll find that bending your knees will help u get more power and get u in better position for low shots. also your strokes seem kinda short and jerky at times. try to set up earlier and take a full swing. this will help u gain power, consistency, and control.

[futuratennis]

I would say, pretty solid 3.0. Your backhand is particularly pretty solid looking. Is it your favorite side?

3.0..? more like 4.0-4.5! ur strokes are quite good, you look a little flat-footed though, keep up the great work!

[smoothtennis]

When I was at 3.0 Nationals I swear every player looked just like this guy!

NOT!

Hey there Raiden - you bring up an interesting point. You were there bro, tell us what the National 3.0 games and skills looked like.

[crazysoccer00]

LOL at the 3.0 comment

[5263]

rate me and help me strokes and foot work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cwrjSJoHk

I like that BH weight transfer! Nice strokes.
I've never seen the middle 1/3 of the court used so much though.

Clearly FH and BH of at least an avg 4.0.
Would have to see matchplay against established 4.0s or 4.5s to know beyond that. You seem to have a lot in reserve that you were not showing. I think some of that might come out when pushed in a match.

[Nellie]

Nice consistency and clearance over the net.

Footwork is a little iffy - nice little steps to set up the shot, but no jump step to prepare for the next stroke. Also, you are a little static behind the line by not adjusting forward and back to longer/shorter balls.

Regarding your strokes, I would suggest using a less exagerated takeback on the forehand side - you are often taking the racquet over your head, and this long stroke will lead to errors as you play better players. Instead, try to keep that racquet head below the shoulders and not so far back so that you can still see the racquet out of the corner of your eye.

On the backhand side, I would suggest setting up a little further back. Now, it looks like you are pausing near your side, and then, having to rush to catch up in the stroke to get to the ball.

[JoshDragon]

First of all you are definitely not a 3.0. This is a video of a 3.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GOcjyfKw4w

The two things that I saw that you need to improve from your video are your shot placement and especially your foot work.

Your placement was good most of the time but to become a really good player you have to be able to hit to your opponents forehand or backhand at will. I'd recommend doing cross-court and down-the-line drills to get better control.

As for the footwork you seem to be tentative some of the time. It's better to take a series of small steps to get you closer to the ball instead of one giant step.

[spiritdragon]

First of all you are definitely not a 3.0. This is a video of a 3.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GOcjyfKw4w



well, if that is a video of a 3.0 then i'd say that a rating of 3.0 is accurate. I tihnk the guy in the black shirt would give trouble. but then again that was only 1 point that was shown. but judging just from that point i can tell he has a smooth forehand and good control but idk bout his other strokes. also, note that Demon only showed a video of rallying and not matchplay so we dont know how well he performs in a match situation.

[JoshDragon]

well, if that is a video of a 3.0 then i'd say that a rating of 3.0 is accurate. I tihnk the guy in the black shirt would give trouble. but then again that was only 1 point that was shown. but judging just from that point i can tell he has a smooth forehand and good control but idk bout his other strokes. also, note that Demon only showed a video of rallying and not matchplay so we dont know how well he performs in a match situation.

Yeah but I think Demoneye's ground strokes are somewhat more advanced than the guy with the black shirt.

I would say that Demoneye is a 3.5.

[5263]

well, if that is a video of a 3.0 then i'd say that a rating of 3.0 is accurate. I tihnk the guy in the black shirt would give trouble. but then again that was only 1 point that was shown. but judging just from that point i can tell he has a smooth forehand and good control but idk bout his other strokes. also, note that Demon only showed a video of rallying and not matchplay so we dont know how well he performs in a match situation.

control of his FH till Demon drops that big BH on it. LoL

[SystemicAnomaly]

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I would say that Demoneye is a 3.5.

It appears that sandbagging is a prevalent as ever. League teams, in an effort to get to playoffs, have been stacking their team to such an extent that the original intent of the ratings has been distorted.

Yes, there are some 3.5 players that hit as well as this guy, but they should really be playing a 4.0 level (according to the detailed playing characteristics listed for the NTRP levels). Also, I would be willing to bet that there are plenty of people on these boards that would self-rate themselves as a 4.5 or 5.0 if they hit as well as this guy.

[Demoneye]

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=229261 i guess i shuolda put it on this thread..

[SystemicAnomaly]

How can people on this board rate me 3.5 on this board, but call him a 4.0? I honestly don't believe I am worse than this guy. SOME people rate me 4.0, 4.5 but I just think there just trying to stroke my ego which I really don't need. I have gotten some 3.5 comments a lot before.

My call still stands, he is a 3.0, I'm a 3.5

My video is somewhere in the Tennis tips section if you want to type "video or don't talk". ;)

You are way off base on this rating. Sour grapes? Was there actually more than one person who rated you as a 3.0-3.5 player? I looked at 1 of your videos briefly and think that that opinion is way off base as well. Don't take these suggested ratings too seriously.

If you really believe thatthis is a 3.0 player, then you must have some serious sandbagging going on in your neck of the woods.

[JoshDragon]

It appears that sandbagging is a prevalent as ever. League teams, in an effort to get to playoffs, have been stacking their team to such an extent that the original intent of the ratings has been distorted.

Yes, there are some 3.5 players that hit as well as this guy, but they should really be playing a 4.0 level (according to the detailed playing characteristics listed for the NTRP levels). Also, I would be willing to bet that there are plenty of people on these boards that would self-rate themselves as a 4.5 or 5.0 if they hit as well as this guy.

Ok I watched the video again and I'm going to agree with SystemicAnomaly you are definitely a 4.0.

[Dreamer]

How can people on this board rate me 3.5 on this board, but call him a 4.0? I honestly don't believe I am worse than this guy. SOME people rate me 4.0, 4.5 but I just think there just trying to stroke my ego which I really don't need. I have gotten some 3.5 comments a lot before.

My call still stands, he is a 3.0, I'm a 3.5

My video is somewhere in the Tennis tips section if you want to type "video or don't talk". ;)

The problem being, his technique looks far superior to yours. You can tell because he generates pace with much less effort than you and his body is better balanced. His strokes also carry less unnecessary movement.
Maybe if you guys could play a match and you win, then I might reconsider.

[raiden031]

Hey there Raiden - you bring up an interesting point. You were there bro, tell us what the National 3.0 games and skills looked like.

I would say most of the players I would gauge at about a weak 3.5. There might have been 5 people out there who coulda maybe made it as a weak 4.0. Most players at Nationals didn't have great strokes or anything but were pushers or hit some crafty shots. My team definitely had the best singles players that would look decent on video. So I think the OP guy looks better than 3.0 by his strokes and consistency. I don't think my strokes are as smooth yet and I destroy most 3.0 players with power and consistency.

And also to add, if the average 3.0 Nationals player posted a video here, they would be rated at a 2.5 at best.

[raiden031]

How can people on this board rate me 3.5 on this board, but call him a 4.0? I honestly don't believe I am worse than this guy. SOME people rate me 4.0, 4.5 but I just think there just trying to stroke my ego which I really don't need. I have gotten some 3.5 comments a lot before.

My call still stands, he is a 3.0, I'm a 3.5

My video is somewhere in the Tennis tips section if you want to type "video or don't talk". ;)

I just watched one of your latest videos. I think you look 4.0 or higher to me. I don't think its accurate to say you are an entire level better than the OP. Its possible you are, but thats not an easy call to make based on these videos.

[TonyB]

The OP is definitely a strong 3.5, if not 4.0.

Definitely has the strokes to be a 4.0 or higher, so the only true way to assess his real rating would be to see how he handles pressure points and shot-making decisions.

The OP would do quite well in a 4.0 USTA league. Maybe 50:50 or less.

[teppeiahn1]

Hey OP, sorry bout these children here. Not I honestly can't rate your NTPR because lets say that you had a mental game of Brad Gilbert. You can crush most 4.5's, but you might be one of those people who stiffen up at real match play that can't even beat a 3.0.

But your strokes look realy smooth. I think that your forehand can use some lower body work. Your backhand looks smooth.

Just a question, do you know how to place your strokes and serves? Also do you know how to BHSlice?

[Demoneye]

lol i was like wow 43 posts or whatever. maybe i could get tips that i think will help me. but i read it over and its just about nptr stuff like that...
Too me nptr does matter. But, in the end its not my ranking that is going to win me my matches. it is going to be my strokes. so.. if i can get help on my serve i would like it. also to teppeiahn1 i can place my serves pretty well. i usally try to hit the backhand side. with a kick serve. and i try to dictate the point with my backhand.and then forehand winner. i can slice pretty ok. also how can i get a twist serve. shuold i try to get a slice first? becuase that what i tried to do. its hard.i already know all that bs.(hit the ball from 3-9 or some crapy like that.) heres me serving . tips on form and stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZN2uHuypr0

[Zeppy]

lol i was like wow 43 posts or whatever. maybe i could get tips that i think will help me. but i read it over and its just about nptr stuff like that...
Too me nptr does matter. But, in the end its not my ranking that is going to win me my matches. it is going to be my strokes. so.. if i can get help on my serve i would like it. also to teppeiahn1 i can place my serves pretty well. i usally try to hit the backhand side. with a kick serve. and i try to dictate the point with my backhand.and then forehand winner. i can slice pretty ok. also how can i get a twist serve. shuold i try to get a slice first? becuase that what i tried to do. its hard.i already know all that bs.(hit the ball from 3-9 or some crapy like that.) heres me serving . tips on form and stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZN2uHuypr0

Haha, yeah, I think we all got bit carried away. Well, I would love to give you tips and advice except that, I'm sure you're a better player than I am, so any tips I give you might make you bad. I mean, I don't even know how I look like on camera.

[Headshotterer]

kick serve is better to learn

[smoothtennis]

lol i was like wow 43 posts or whatever. maybe i could get tips that i think will help me. but i read it over and its just about nptr stuff like that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZN2uHuypr0

Systemic Anomaly and I both provided very specific things you should start to incorporate into your technique. The kiddies always come in to play on these things, just ignore it.

[mordecai]

Your timing and swingpaths are nice but your footwork is nonexistent.

[Azzurri]

kick serve is better to learn

kick serves are nice, but slice serves (especially into the body) are really hard to return. having both gives you a very powerful serve. flat serves are easy to return..don't care if they are 115 mph...just a matter of timing.