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proracketeer
10-31-2008, 01:06 AM
How many versions of the Snauwaert Graphite Mid can you name?

treblings
10-31-2008, 02:44 AM
How many versions of the Snauwaert Graphite Mid can you name?

The original Graphite Mid, Gerulaitis, Gottfried and Smid Graphite Mid.
Any others?

SirBlend12
10-31-2008, 03:03 AM
A nice little variation on them was the ATP Pro line. And if were not counting pj's Lacoste Top 341's work nicely:)

treblings
10-31-2008, 03:08 AM
was the boron mid essentially the same, or was it a different racket?

Steve Huff
10-31-2008, 04:14 PM
There are several:
Graphite Dyno
Graphite Boron
Dyno Boron
Graphite Orbit
Graphite Pro Gerulaitis
Royal Elegant
Smid Graphite Mid
Special Mid Graphite
Master Mid

retrowagen
10-31-2008, 08:31 PM
There are several:
Graphite Dyno
Graphite Boron
Dyno Boron
Graphite Orbit
Graphite Pro Gerulaitis
Royal Elegant
Smid Graphite Mid
Special Mid Graphite
Master Mid


Oh dear, there were a few different Snauwaert lines there, but it's true, they're all midsizes. Let's sort through it:

1.) Wood-based composite Mids (541cm2, 18Mx18C), available ca. 1984-1986:
a.) Brian Gottfried Graphite Mid
b.) Tomas Smid Graphite Mid (identical to the Gottfried, apart from name on racket, supposed to sell better in Europe although Mecir and Gerulaitis used the Gottfried model, circa 1984)
c.) Vitas Gerulaitis Graphite Mid (less graphite than in the Gottfried and Smid, all black facing with grey/white trim)

2.) Graphite (epoxy matrix) Composite Mids (elliptic shaped heads, 539 cm2, 16Mx18C):
Available ca. 1983-1986:
a.) Golden Mid (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar)
b.) Boron Mid [renamed in 1987 Boron Orbit] (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar/Boron)
c.) Graphite Mid [renamed in 1987 Graphite Orbit] (80% graphite/20% fiberglass)
d.) Graphite Pro
e.) Lady Mid
Available ca. 1987-1988:
f.) HiTen 25 (12Mx16C)
g.) Silver Shadow
h.) Masters Mid
i.) Masters Lady

3.) Dyno Graphite Composite Mids (Warren Bosworth-designed, isometric shape, 564cm2 size, 16Mx18C):
Available ca. 1984-1986:
a.) Golden Dyno (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar)
b.) Dyno-Boron (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar/boron)
c.) Graphite Dyno (80% graphite/20% fiberglass)
Available ca. 1987-1988:
e.) HiTen 30 (12Mx16C)


4.) Master Series Graphite Composites (teardrop shaped, 630cm2, 16Mx18C), available ca. 1987-1989:
a.) Royal Precision Ceramic
b.) Black Shadow
c.) White Shadow
d.) Masters Precision

5.) Ergonom Rackets (canted head midsized graphite composites, available ca. 1984-1986):
a.) "Dyno shaped head" Ergonom Graphite (silver and blue)
b.) "Mid [elliptical] shaped head" Ergonom Graphite (red and blue)
*These were available concurrently, and look to be the Graphite Dyno or Graphite Mid heads tilted over 42 degrees off the centerline axis of the frame. Same hitting surface and string pattern as the Dyno and Mid series frames of 1984-1986.

There was also a cheaper line of composites back in 1983-1986 known as the SX series, featuring a nylon throat (like the Pro Kennex Bronze Ace), renamed in 1987 as the Techforce 30.

And then there were the ATP series of frames, in the late 80's/early 90's, and the Mikael Pernfors (a midplus) frame which appeared to be a knockoff of the Wimbledon Graphite, which I'm afraid I don't know too much about.

And then the later "Elliptic" series of wider beamed frames, which were, I believe, more like a midplus size and the last products put out by Snauwaert, a company who had been producing tennis rackets since 1929.

treblings
10-31-2008, 11:41 PM
retrowagon,
very comprehensive answer. i might have misunderstood the original question. are the rackets you list all variations of the Graphite Mid or are they simply midsize rackets made of graphite by snauwaert.

retrowagen
11-01-2008, 08:02 AM
retrowagon,
very comprehensive answer. i might have misunderstood the original question. are the rackets you list all variations of the Graphite Mid or are they simply midsize rackets made of graphite by snauwaert.

Those are all mids with graphite.

The variations of the model called "Graphite Mid," or to be more specific, the rackets made from the same mold (same head size, beam width, same drilling pattern - with exception of the Hi Ten variant) as the Graphite Mid, I listed in section 2.) of my previous post. Add them up, there are eleven different models made from that mold between 1983 and 1988 that I know of.

vsbabolat
11-01-2008, 08:14 AM
All I can add is that I miss Snauwaert.... I thought they manufactured the highest quality mass produced racquets that have ever been available to the consumer. You could easily match racquets because Snauwaert would engrave on every racquet the grip size, the weight, and the balance.

treblings
11-01-2008, 08:58 AM
Those are all mids with graphite.

The variations of the model called "Graphite Mid," or to be more specific, the rackets made from the same mold (same head size, beam width, same drilling pattern - with exception of the Hi Ten variant) as the Graphite Mid, I listed in section 2.) of my previous post. Add them up, there are eleven different models made from that mold between 1983 and 1988 that I know of.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify that for me.

Steve Huff
11-01-2008, 01:26 PM
Retro, it's guys like you that keep me coming back to these threads (and I've been here a while). Thanks.

plasma
11-02-2008, 11:08 PM
snauwaert masters lady????, the marketing guy who thought that up wore," sex panther", "60% of the time, it works every time."

Gorecki
11-03-2008, 01:22 AM
snauwaert masters lady????, the marketing guy who thought that up wore," sex panther", "60% of the time, it works every time."

someone has just seen "achor man" :)

proracketeer
01-18-2009, 11:20 AM
Oh dear, there were a few different Snauwaert lines there, but it's true, they're all midsizes. Let's sort through it:

1.) Wood-based composite Mids (541cm2, 18Mx18C), available ca. 1984-1986:
a.) Brian Gottfried Graphite Mid
b.) Tomas Smid Graphite Mid (identical to the Gottfried, apart from name on racket, supposed to sell better in Europe although Mecir and Gerulaitis used the Gottfried model, circa 1984)
c.) Vitas Gerulaitis Graphite Mid (less graphite than in the Gottfried and Smid, all black facing with grey/white trim)

2.) Graphite (epoxy matrix) Composite Mids (elliptic shaped heads, 539 cm2, 16Mx18C):
Available ca. 1983-1986:
a.) Golden Mid (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar)
b.) Boron Mid [renamed in 1987 Boron Orbit] (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar/Boron)
c.) Graphite Mid [renamed in 1987 Graphite Orbit] (80% graphite/20% fiberglass)
d.) Graphite Pro
e.) Lady Mid
Available ca. 1987-1988:
f.) HiTen 25 (12Mx16C)
g.) Silver Shadow
h.) Masters Mid
i.) Masters Lady

3.) Dyno Graphite Composite Mids (Warren Bosworth-designed, isometric shape, 564cm2 size, 16Mx18C):
Available ca. 1984-1986:
a.) Golden Dyno (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar)
b.) Dyno-Boron (graphite/fiberglass/Kevlar/boron)
c.) Graphite Dyno (80% graphite/20% fiberglass)
Available ca. 1987-1988:
e.) HiTen 30 (12Mx16C)


4.) Master Series Graphite Composites (teardrop shaped, 630cm2, 16Mx18C), available ca. 1987-1989:
a.) Royal Precision Ceramic
b.) Black Shadow
c.) White Shadow
d.) Masters Precision

5.) Ergonom Rackets (canted head midsized graphite composites, available ca. 1984-1986):
a.) "Dyno shaped head" Ergonom Graphite (silver and blue)
b.) "Mid [elliptical] shaped head" Ergonom Graphite (red and blue)
*These were available concurrently, and look to be the Graphite Dyno or Graphite Mid heads tilted over 42 degrees off the centerline axis of the frame. Same hitting surface and string pattern as the Dyno and Mid series frames of 1984-1986.

There was also a cheaper line of composites back in 1983-1986 known as the SX series, featuring a nylon throat (like the Pro Kennex Bronze Ace), renamed in 1987 as the Techforce 30.

And then there were the ATP series of frames, in the late 80's/early 90's, and the Mikael Pernfors (a midplus) frame which appeared to be a knockoff of the Wimbledon Graphite, which I'm afraid I don't know too much about.

And then the later "Elliptic" series of wider beamed frames, which were, I believe, more like a midplus size and the last products put out by Snauwaert, a company who had been producing tennis rackets since 1929.

Thank you very much.
Can you relate Ergonom and Dyno to the Graphit Orbit in terms of weight, flex and Composition?

proracketeer
01-19-2009, 07:41 AM
Thank you very much.
Can you relate Ergonom and Dyno to the Graphit Orbit in terms of weight, flex and Composition?

Both 80% Graphite?
Equal Flex?

proracketeer
04-12-2009, 04:59 AM
they're all midsizes
4.) Master Series Graphite Composites (teardrop shaped, 630cm2, 16Mx18C), available ca. 1987-1989

Those were really that large? 98 in.?

proracketeer
04-23-2009, 10:46 AM
Those were really that large? 98 in.?

Maybe 89 sq.in.

gymrat76
04-23-2009, 01:39 PM
I have a pristine Graphite Dyno...Is there a touch of wood in it??

proracketeer
05-05-2011, 10:38 PM
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_1122.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_1123.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_1124.jpg

To more "Graphite Mid".
Any info on those?

Kemitak
05-06-2011, 11:51 AM
No mention of the Royal Precision (sans ceramic)?

http://i53.tinypic.com/2585hyh.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/zwgq4h.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2a8oz2a.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2ep271d.jpg

vsbabolat
05-06-2011, 11:58 AM
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_1122.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_1123.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_1124.jpg

To more "Graphite Mid".
Any info on those?

The made in Belgium frame was the normal Graphite Mid mold from 1982-88/89. The developed in Belgium frame looks like it was from towards the end of the company like early 1990's.

jester911
05-06-2011, 12:26 PM
I have the Gerulaitis version hanging on my wall. It was one of my first real rackets when I began playing.

nycoara
06-20-2011, 02:31 PM
I got two "NEW" Pro-AM, with green fabric racquet case,,,

Do you have some info of this sticks?

Thanks


nycoara