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10isDad
12-03-2008, 12:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCMrC35mo&fmt=18

SirBlend12
12-03-2008, 12:48 PM
Is it just me, or is clayton really good at NOT getting first serves in?

Lindsay
12-03-2008, 12:54 PM
May have just been a bad game. But Clayton looks a little thick and a little slow to be as good as some people on these boards claim he is.

CTennis11
12-03-2008, 12:55 PM
Clayton has so much power on both sides

OleNole
12-03-2008, 01:05 PM
May have just been a bad game. But Clayton looks a little thick and a little slow to be as good as some people on these boards claim he is.

He sure looked a lot better than Klahn though, and according to the ITF rankings Klahn is the 20th best junior player in the world.

BTW thanks for the video 10isDad!

JMS
12-03-2008, 01:15 PM
May have just been a bad game. But Clayton looks a little thick and a little slow to be as good as some people on these boards claim he is.

I don't see how you can say he is slow when he got to every ball, apparently he is fast enough. If anything Klahn looked slow.

Fedace
12-03-2008, 01:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCMrC35mo&fmt=18

Klahn has little ways to go, his 2nd serves are still a liability. anyway, very nice quality video. who uploaded that i wonder. ??

Fedace
12-03-2008, 01:22 PM
May have just been a bad game. But Clayton looks a little thick and a little slow to be as good as some people on these boards claim he is.

Haha,,, Clayton is not thick and he is not slow. but he is not the tallest guy in the world. this becomes a problem when 1st serve % drops. He goes for huge 1st serves all the time so, he has games where the % drops and is vunerable to being broken..

SirBlend12
12-03-2008, 01:27 PM
^^^ I was about to say the dude does not look fat at all. Short, yes, but not fat... or slow really.

Fedace
12-03-2008, 01:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCMrC35mo&fmt=18

Is there a way to download this video ??

SoCal10s
12-03-2008, 01:38 PM
well good things these two are playing college tennis cuz they wouldn't make a dent in the ATP...so many errors,they looked like they are not mentally focus at all... easy 2nd serve returns errors... wow.. I can't believe they are tops college players...

Tikiman53
12-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Holy crap. those guys are insane despite whatever anyone here says

JMS
12-03-2008, 01:57 PM
well good things these two are playing college tennis cuz they wouldn't make a dent in the ATP...so many errors,they looked like they are not mentally focus at all... easy 2nd serve returns errors... wow.. I can't believe they are tops college players...

Haha says the kid who wouldn't get a game off of them

caseyguy59
12-03-2008, 02:13 PM
very nice crosscourt backhand passing shot alex.

Fedace
12-03-2008, 02:19 PM
well good things these two are playing college tennis cuz they wouldn't make a dent in the ATP...so many errors,they looked like they are not mentally focus at all... easy 2nd serve returns errors... wow.. I can't believe they are tops college players...

Socal, i know you are a good player. and give these guys a chance. this particular match was played after a grueling weekend at Cal in the ITA regional qualifying. they both made it to the Finals and this was essentially a intersquad match played at Stanford. so i can see why the concentration level wasn't at the highest for both of these guys..:)

Fedace
12-03-2008, 02:20 PM
I am surprised how Flat, Klahn is hitting the ball. it is almost as flat as Jimmy connors shots.

AndrewD
12-03-2008, 02:45 PM
Is it just me, or is clayton really good at NOT getting first serves in?

The video isn't representative of Clayton's best tennis. Unfortunately, however, it is representative of what's happened to his game since entering Stanford. Started off with a bang and then, after the coaching had taken its full effect, his game started to go downhill.

Fedace
12-03-2008, 02:48 PM
:twisted:The video isn't representative of Clayton's best tennis. Unfortunately, however, it is representative of what's happened to his game since entering Stanford. Started off with a bang and then, after the coaching had taken its full effect, his game started to go downhill.

Are you saying the Greatness of Coach Whitlinger and Coach Gould is actually having negative effect on Alex ?????? and the hacker coach Nick Bolletieri was actually better..?????? HOW DARE you ???:???::twisted:

Fedace
12-03-2008, 02:52 PM
^^I wasn't really mad, don't worry.....No Worries as they say, LIFE is good..... anyway , does anyone know how to download this video from U-tube ??

RestockingTues
12-03-2008, 03:38 PM
^Yes, I do. ;)

G-12
12-03-2008, 04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCMrC35mo&fmt=18

Would anyone be able to tell me what raquets each of them are using?
One looks like the K90 and the other looks like the Head Microgel Prestige. I this right?

Fedace
12-03-2008, 04:54 PM
^Yes, I do. ;)

tell me please.

Fedace
12-03-2008, 04:57 PM
Would anyone be able to tell me what raquets each of them are using?
One looks like the K90 and the other looks like the Head Microgel Prestige. I this right?

Alex clayton uses K 6.1 95, 18X20 pattern. Not sure about Klahn,,he uses Microgel Prestige pro, i belive.......oh no, actually he uses the Paint job of microgel,,,i saw this imprint on the throat p360....:)

G-12
12-03-2008, 05:17 PM
Alex clayton uses K 6.1 95, 18X20 pattern. Not sure about Klahn,,he uses Microgel Prestige pro, i belive.......oh no, actually he uses the Paint job of microgel,,,i saw this imprint on the throat p360....:)

Interesting...well thanks m8.

Fedace
12-03-2008, 05:18 PM
Now if that isn't a GREAT coaching, i don't know what is....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heMmkcRempM&feature=related

thank you, coach Gould.

feyya
12-03-2008, 05:35 PM
thanks for the great video! :)

AndrewD
12-03-2008, 05:44 PM
:twisted:

Are you saying the Greatness of Coach Whitlinger and Coach Gould is actually having negative effect on Alex ?????? and the hacker coach Nick Bolletieri was actually better..?????? HOW DARE you ???:???::twisted:

What I'm saying is that Whitlinger and Gould are too far removed from the pro tour to be of benefit to a guy like Clayton who has designs on going pro. They're college coaches, nothing more. Bolletieri, on the other hand, doesn't really coach (great motivator and a genius at making a message simple) so Clayton was getting instruction from guys with a closer relationship to the pro tour. He was also in an environment where other players would push him - something that doesn't happen at Stanford.

He would have been much better going to Ohio State, Georgia (not for the coaching but for the competition in squad), USC (same), Florida or even Texas A&M. If he didn't care about getting the best coaching he should have followed his brother to Harvard and got the best education.

10isDad
12-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Other vids by the same videographer - this time women...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fbltGJRA8&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK3h5PcCxao&fmt=18

0range
12-03-2008, 07:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCMrC35mo&fmt=18

Wow that's some great kick serve (by the dude in the sleeveless)!

Fedace
12-03-2008, 07:15 PM
What I'm saying is that Whitlinger and Gould are too far removed from the pro tour to be of benefit to a guy like Clayton who has designs on going pro. They're college coaches, nothing more. Bolletieri, on the other hand, doesn't really coach (great motivator and a genius at making a message simple) so Clayton was getting instruction from guys with a closer relationship to the pro tour. He was also in an environment where other players would push him - something that doesn't happen at Stanford.

He would have been much better going to Ohio State, Georgia (not for the coaching but for the competition in squad), USC (same), Florida or even Texas A&M. If he didn't care about getting the best coaching he should have followed his brother to Harvard and got the best education.

Agree with everything til you got to the part where if he followed his brother to Harvard and get the best education ??? what are you talking about ? Harvard is a 2nd rate university compared to Stanford....:) and you are only partly right about Coach Whit and Gould not being a top caliber coaches for top level talents. Coach Whit and Gould are still considered one of the very best college coaches in division 1 tennis today. They command great deal of respect from top Juniors looking to play in college tennis. I really think Alex has been partying little too much and lost some of the dedication to maintain and improve his talents to the max. and Yea, the lack of competition in the practice courts does not help.........

Fedace
12-03-2008, 07:21 PM
Other vids by the same videographer - this time women...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fbltGJRA8&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK3h5PcCxao&fmt=18

Do you know how i can download this video from U-tube ??

Mike Cottrill
12-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Do you know how i can download this video from U-tube ??

why do you want to download?

Fedace
12-03-2008, 08:12 PM
why do you want to download?

because U-tube videos have tendency to disappear after a day or two.

SoCal10s
12-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Socal, i know you are a good player. and give these guys a chance. this particular match was played after a grueling weekend at Cal in the ITA regional qualifying. they both made it to the Finals and this was essentially a intersquad match played at Stanford. so i can see why the concentration level wasn't at the highest for both of these guys..:)

1st seven points of the VID all unforced errors....

Michael Bluth
12-03-2008, 09:25 PM
How's Thacher been coping with the injuries?

I really hope he can use his time at Stanford to improve his groundstrokes to match his serve because if he does he can definitely make a mark on the pro circuit.

10isDad
12-04-2008, 02:25 AM
Do you know how i can download this video from U-tube ??

Try google. You'll get lots of instructions on how to download.

Try youtube. You'll get youtube videos that will tell you how to download youtube video.

eeytennis
12-04-2008, 07:09 AM
Wow, good video, but I thought these two would be a lot better than they look in this video.

socaltennnis
12-04-2008, 08:57 AM
Harvard is a 2nd rate university compared to Stanford....:)

you are hilarious on multiple levels.

JoshDragon
12-04-2008, 10:14 AM
Wow, good video, but I thought these two would be a lot better than they look in this video.

Agreed. Neither one of these guys impressed me especially considering what they've accomplished. I have a friend who plays better than both of these guys played in this video. They must have had an off day.

AndrewD
12-04-2008, 11:57 AM
Harvard is a 2nd rate university compared to Stanford....:) and you are only partly right about Coach Whit and Gould not being a top caliber coaches for top level talents. Coach Whit and Gould are still considered one of the very best college coaches in division 1 tennis today. They command great deal of respect from top Juniors looking to play in college tennis.

I know you're only half joking about the first part but, just to let you in on a little secret, while Stanford has a good reputation in America and within the academic community, Harvard has a much better one with an international audience. Personally, I think that Harvard's admissions system is abhorrent and their education second-rate in comparison to many of their European counterparts, but that's just my opinion.

As to the second (and more important) point - that's really the problem. Whitlinger and Gould have a good reputation in the college game, but that's it. A guy like Clayton is looking beyond college and needs coaches who can prepare him for that world. They won't! I would also dispute the contention that Whitlinger and Gould command a great deal of respect from juniors looking to play college tennis. Stanford, the educational institution, rightly commands a great deal of respect (more so than Georgia, Florida, etc) but the coaches are only going along for the ride and are just living on their previous ability to entice quality players (not develop them). If they were coaching at Arkansas, Washington or any less prestigious institution they wouldn't be able to entice the top juniors based solely on their coaching resume. Stanford needs to make a clean break and inject some new blood into a system that has run its course.

I've got nothing against the university, but I do think that any programme which achieves success solely through attracting talent (as opposed to organising and utilising talent) is a decidedly poor one.

Michael Bluth
12-04-2008, 12:40 PM
Wow, good video, but I thought these two would be a lot better than they look in this video.

I think that display was far from their best day.

SoCal10s
12-04-2008, 12:42 PM
I know you're only half joking about the first part but, just to let you in on a little secret, while Stanford has a good reputation in America and within the academic community, Harvard has a much better one with an international audience. Personally, I think that Harvard's admissions system is abhorrent and their education second-rate in comparison to many of their European counterparts, but that's just my opinion.

As to the second (and more important) point - that's really the problem. Whitlinger and Gould have a good reputation in the college game, but that's it. A guy like Clayton is looking beyond college and needs coaches who can prepare him for that world. They won't! I would also dispute the contention that Whitlinger and Gould command a great deal of respect from juniors looking to play college tennis. Stanford, the educational institution, rightly commands a great deal of respect (more so than Georgia, Florida, etc) but the coaches are only going along for the ride and are just living on their previous ability to entice quality players (not develop them). If they were coaching at Arkansas, Washington or any less prestigious institution they wouldn't be able to entice the top juniors based solely on their coaching resume. Stanford needs to make a clean break and inject some new blood into a system that has run its course.

I've got nothing against the university, but I do think that any programme which achieves success solely through attracting talent (as opposed to organising and utilising talent) is a decidedly poor one.

I might have to agree with you here... those two guys are pretty archaic in the ways they do things... it has happened before and it will happen again...
Most tennis schools really don't prepare any of their players for the WORLD.. why would they? the schools want the success to stay put..all they care about is the WINS .. as long as the program wins,the coach's job are in tact.. I don't know of any college coach who can handle a pro's career,so why do you expect that form Whitlinger and Gould ?

onehandbh
12-04-2008, 01:32 PM
Agreed. Neither one of these guys impressed me especially considering what they've accomplished. I have a friend who plays better than both of these guys played in this video. They must have had an off day.

Who is your friend and post a video of him/her playing
from the same camera angle (from behind). Also, how
are you determining that you friend is better? From his
tournament results and/or from you personally seeing him
play and/or hitting with him? Also, what level are you?
This is kind of important b/c since you are the one
judging that your friend is better.

JoshDragon
12-04-2008, 03:27 PM
Who is your friend and post a video of him/her playing
from the same camera angle (from behind). Also, how
are you determining that you friend is better? From his
tournament results and/or from you personally seeing him
play and/or hitting with him? Also, what level are you?
This is kind of important b/c since you are the one
judging that your friend is better.

I'll tell him about TW Forums but I'm not sure if he will have the time to put up a video he's very busy with tennis.

I'm a 4.5, the guys in the video are better than I am but not by that much (from what I saw their performance was in the strong 5.0 to 5.5. range) My friend would be a 6.0 and he plays better than those two guys were able to play in the video. I have hit with him but not recently.

J011yroger
12-04-2008, 03:44 PM
^^^ I suppose you have no idea who Clayton and Klahn are then.

J

JMS
12-04-2008, 04:09 PM
I'll tell him about TW Forums but I'm not sure if he will have the time to put up a video he's very busy with tennis.

I'm a 4.5, the guys in the video are better than I am but not by that much (from what I saw their performance was in the strong 5.0 to 5.5. range) My friend would be a 6.0 and he plays better than those two guys were able to play in the video. I have hit with him but not recently.

then is your friend playing for stanford, georgia, ohio state, anybody? did he? why not if he is better than these two according to you?

Fedace
12-04-2008, 05:28 PM
To: AndrewD

if Stanford was to make a clean break as you say,,,,,who did you have in mind for the coaching position ??? Todd Martin ? Nick Bolletieri ? LOL. I do understand your point about some of the older coaches being little out of touch with modern game of Professional power tennis. but Stanford Values Loyalty unlike many other institutions. Coach Whitlinger and family has dedicated their life to Stanford tennis program and he deserves the chance to bring home the title.

AndrewD
12-04-2008, 06:43 PM
Most tennis schools really don't prepare any of their players for the WORLD.. why would they? the schools want the success to stay put..all they care about is the WINS .. as long as the program wins,the coach's job are in tact

Nowhere in my posts will you find any suggestion that the school is at fault. Of course they aren't, they just do whatever is in their best interests. The emphasis of my posts was on Clayton's decision to attend Stanford. It was my contention that, if he wanted to give himself the best chance of a good pro career (I think it's safe to assume he wants to go pro), he shouldn't have chosen Stanford.


.. I don't know of any college coach who can handle a pro's career,so why do you expect that form Whitlinger and Gould ?

How can you not come up with at least half a dozen who know what it's like to play on the pro tour within the last 10 or so years? Any one of those guys, or a ringer like Bryan Shelton, would be ideally placed to handle a guy with pro aspirations.

As far as I can see, Stanford have decided that the position of coach is roughly irrelevant (little more than a Casino's greeter) so, on the strength of Stanford's educational reputation and past tennis glories, they'll just continue to recruit the best players possible, point them at the courts and see what happens. The women's team do exactly the same thing and we've just seen how good their coaching staff is when they don't have the best players at their disposal.

AndrewD
12-04-2008, 06:59 PM
To: AndrewD

if Stanford was to make a clean break as you say,,,,,who did you have in mind for the coaching position ??? Todd Martin ? Nick Bolletieri ? LOL. I do understand your point about some of the older coaches being little out of touch with modern game of Professional power tennis. but Stanford Values Loyalty unlike many other institutions. Coach Whitlinger and family has dedicated their life to Stanford tennis program and he deserves the chance to bring home the title.

Here's one out of left field - move heaven and earth to get Bryan Shelton.
He ticks every box you could imagine - strong college career, graduated in 4 years (industrial engineering - better than the average coach), solid pro career, excellent college coaching record, won an NCAA team title, knows what it takes to recruit with less and knows what it takes to build a team (also to build one around a stellar player), has coached pro level players (Mal Washington the year he got to the Wimbledon final). Aside from Steve Denton, he has the best pro career or any coach currently in the NCAA. I also think that, after 10 years coaching the GT women's team he'll be ready for a new challenge. He also understands loyalty (which you say is important to Stanford) as he came back to coach at his alma mater opposite his old college doubles partner (the current men's coach).

Whitlinger has had long enough and it's just time to make a change. Of course, as long as you've got Gould hovering in the background as Director of Tennis you're not likely to see any change.

JoshDragon
12-04-2008, 07:01 PM
^^^ I suppose you have no idea who Clayton and Klahn are then.

J

I know who both of those guys are. Klahn and Clayton are both promising tennis players. Clayton, was a former boys doubles US Open champion, along with Donald Young. That's why I was expecting a little bit more from them.

JoshDragon
12-04-2008, 07:09 PM
then is your friend playing for stanford, georgia, ohio state, anybody? did he? why not if he is better than these two according to you?

I realize that they have accomplished much more than my friend has however from what I saw in that particular video I wasn't impressed. Considering what they've accomplished I thought they would look better.

Fedace
12-04-2008, 07:40 PM
To: AndrewD
Seriously, how can you possibly think a man that has been coaching Women all these years will be effective in top flight division 1 Men's tennis. Why don't we just ask Coach LeLe Forood to coach the Men's team..... She had pretty good success in division 1...........LOL..

Lindsay
12-04-2008, 07:44 PM
Don't open up a can of worms with comments like that Fedace. LeLee is one of the best coaches in college tennis, men or women. Same for B. Shelton.

Fedace
12-04-2008, 07:47 PM
Don't open up a can of worms with comments like that Fedace. LeLee is one of the best coaches in college tennis, men or women. Same for B. Shelton.

so you too think LELE can coach Men's tennis?? seriously,,,,think about it.. This is division 1 Men's tennis. it is a different world. i know women's tennis has come a long way but really ??:)

Lindsay
12-04-2008, 08:13 PM
LeLe is a great coach- no matter men or women. Maybe she'd have more success with women. But to say she wouldn't have any success wouldn't be smart. Shelton, being male and obviously being a great player and coach, would transition to the mens side very well.

AndrewD
12-04-2008, 09:14 PM
To: AndrewD
Seriously, how can you possibly think a man that has been coaching Women all these years will be effective in top flight division 1 Men's tennis. Why don't we just ask Coach LeLe Forood to coach the Men's team..... She had pretty good success in division 1...........LOL..

Do you mean to say that this entire time I've been discussing tennis with someone who doesn't understand the game? Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it.

To summarise:
Bryan Shelton (a man) coached Mal Washington (a man) on the ATP (men) pro tour. Bryan Shelton (a man) played the ATP (men's) tour with more success than any other Division 1 coach apart from Steve Denton and, possibly, Billy Martin. Bryan Shelton has a list of credentials that make the average Div I coach look eminently under-qualified.

Finally, he would hardly be the first coach to start their career dealing with a women's team. Sam Paul at North Carolina coached women's tennis (at college level) as did Tulsa's Vincent Westbrook, Texas' Michael Center and Ole Miss' Billy Chadwick

Of the men's teams they now coach, North Carolina is ranked #13, Tulsa is #11, Texas is #4 and Ole Miss is #6. You'll notice those teams are all ranked well above Stanford. As a result, you'd have to be pretty dopey to think that coaching women's tennis precludes you from coaching men's. If it doesn't then I guess Stanford isn't playing men's tennis.

Regardless, Forood (who hasn't proven herself as a coach) would be just as qualified as Whitlinger to lead the Stanford men. She certainly had a more successful playing career and her coaching record is better than his.

TourTenor
12-05-2008, 08:26 AM
Do you mean to say that this entire time I've been discussing tennis with someone who doesn't understand the game? Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it.

To summarise:
Bryan Shelton (a man) coached Mal Washington (a man) on the ATP (men) pro tour. Bryan Shelton (a man) played the ATP (men's) tour with more success than any other Division 1 coach apart from Steve Denton and, possibly, Billy Martin. Bryan Shelton has a list of credentials that make the average Div I coach look eminently under-qualified.

Finally, he would hardly be the first coach to start their career dealing with a women's team. Sam Paul at North Carolina coached women's tennis (at college level) as did Tulsa's Vincent Westbrook, Texas' Michael Center and Ole Miss' Billy Chadwick

Of the men's teams they now coach, North Carolina is ranked #13, Tulsa is #11, Texas is #4 and Ole Miss is #6. You'll notice those teams are all ranked well above Stanford. As a result, you'd have to be pretty dopey to think that coaching women's tennis precludes you from coaching men's. If it doesn't then I guess Stanford isn't playing men's tennis.

Regardless, Forood (who hasn't proven herself as a coach) would be just as qualified as Whitlinger to lead the Stanford men. She certainly had a more successful playing career and her coaching record is better than his.
<Fedace exits stage right>:rolleyes:

Fedace
12-07-2008, 04:53 AM
Only person that could do a better job that Whitlinger is Todd Martin. and he has NO plans of coaching college tennis. and Brian Shelton would never leave georgia tech, he likes coaching those hot chicks, and i don't blame him...

NickC
12-07-2008, 06:40 AM
Only person that could do a better job that Whitlinger is Todd Martin. and he has NO plans of coaching college tennis. and Brian Shelton would never leave georgia tech, he likes coaching those hot chicks, and i don't blame him...

You miss his point completely.

He just proved you to be 100% wrong, and you go and post worthless and non-relevant crap. You truly fail at life.

Fedace
12-07-2008, 06:44 AM
You miss his point completely.

He just proved you to be 100% wrong, and you go and post worthless and non-relevant crap. You truly fail at life.

LOL.....how shallow you are. you get mad if someone doesn't answer your question.?? I really don't care one cent, if Brian Shelton is a good coach or NOT.... he will never coach at Stanford, men or Women. so Who cares ??
and I seen him salivating over Kristi all the time.:)

NickC
12-07-2008, 06:53 AM
LOL.....how shallow you are.
Care to speak correct English?

you get mad if someone doesn't answer your question.??
It's not my question.

I really don't care one cent, if Brian Shelton is a good coach or NOT.... he will never coach at Stanford, men or Women. so Who cares ??
and I seen him salivating over Kristi all the time.:)
You've never let facts and logic get in your way of making stupid comments. I see that this time is no different.

Teamtomo
12-07-2008, 06:54 AM
To Fedace:

To download, download realplayer, then go onto a youtube video and i the top right hand corner of the the video box it will say "download", press that and it will download.

Hope that helps.

Fedace
12-07-2008, 06:58 AM
LOL,,,you must be English....I don't know why but the movie "Fish called Wanda" came to mind for some reason when i read your post. Give it a Rest, man....
If anyone is to do a better job than Coach Whitlinger, it is Todd Martin or Tim Gullickson or Paul Annacone. Brian Shelton will end up in Failure....no doubt.

NickC
12-07-2008, 07:01 AM
LOL,,,you must be English...

No, I'm not English. I have a New York accent, if anything.

Fedace
12-07-2008, 07:05 AM
To Fedace:

To download, download realplayer, then go onto a youtube video and i the top right hand corner of the the video box it will say "download", press that and it will download.

Hope that helps.

i already have Real player. and in the top right corner, it said UPLOAD, not download. :confused:

10isDad
12-07-2008, 07:09 AM
i already have Real player. and in the top right corner, it said UPLOAD, not download. :confused:

If you have FireFox as the browser and Realplayer installed on your system, within FireFox go to YouTube, start playing the video, hover the cursor over the video and you should get a small popup that says "Download this video".

If it doesn't work, do what I said originally: use Google to search for "download youtube videos". There are plenty of sites that will allow you to paste in the link of the video and save it to your computer.

Teamtomo
12-07-2008, 07:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCMrC35mo&fmt=18

If you have FireFox as the browser and Realplayer installed on your system, within FireFox go to YouTube, start playing the video, hover the cursor over the video and you should get a small popup that says "Download this video".

Thats what happens on my laptop- i use firefox.

Fedace
12-07-2008, 07:12 AM
^^^I have explorer, not firefox. thanks. I am thinking about showing this video to my Juniors. These guys, especially Alex has very textbook, very sound stroke motions. though Klahn's serve was often ending up half way up the net,,,,very strange from such a top level player,,maybe he was tired ??

Anyway, i am going to show this clip to my Juniors.

Staiger
12-07-2008, 07:19 AM
well good things these two are playing college tennis cuz they wouldn't make a dent in the ATP...so many errors,they looked like they are not mentally focus at all... easy 2nd serve returns errors... wow.. I can't believe they are tops college players...


Thats just bitter:twisted: I think they were having an off-day , they may not be the most gifted tennis player but some of the techiques are there ; there is potential . Maybe the hot weather and the glare , but there were a few double faults .

J011yroger
12-07-2008, 10:33 AM
No, I'm not English. I have a New York accent, if anything.

LOL, the fact that you just said "If Anything." shows that you have at least spent time in NY.

J

k pro open magic wand
12-07-2008, 11:35 AM
looked like neither one of them was going all out in the effort department

Fee
12-07-2008, 12:01 PM
LOL,,,you must be English....I don't know why but the movie "Fish called Wanda" came to mind for some reason when i read your post. Give it a Rest, man....
If anyone is to do a better job than Coach Whitlinger, it is Todd Martin or Tim Gullickson or Paul Annacone. Brian Shelton will end up in Failure....no doubt.

It would be very tough for Tim Gullickson to coach Standford considering that he died of a brain tumor some years ago.

10isDad
12-07-2008, 12:35 PM
It would be very tough for Tim Gullickson to coach Standford considering that he died of a brain tumor some years ago.

I'm certain our beloved Fedace still feels he'd do a better job.

Joeyg
12-07-2008, 12:41 PM
Another in a series of moronic posts by our boy, Dr. Fedace.

NickC
12-07-2008, 12:57 PM
It would be very tough for Tim Gullickson to coach Standford considering that he died of a brain tumor some years ago.

Like I said earlier, when does Fedace let logic and facts get in the way of his thoughts and words? Not often, if at all.

Storm_Kyori
12-07-2008, 01:23 PM
I was wondering about Clayton and his 1HBH. From most of the vid, his BH was for the most part mostly his dominant arm. I saw little extending by his left arm. I would love to have his BH compared to mine, but from what I have been told on the one hander, the left hand for righties is supposed to counter-balance your weight and with Clayton he was either leaning back or left arm barely left his hip. I think he's a great player, but could someone post a clip on his BH in better form? Thanks.

weaver
12-07-2008, 04:41 PM
i was under the impression that his forehand is his more dominate hand...

10isDad
12-07-2008, 05:10 PM
I believe you misunderstood. His statement was regarding the role of the non-dominant arm in the backhand stroke.

miniRafa386
12-07-2008, 05:36 PM
both are great players, but i dont like klahns forehand. he has a weird hitch when he brings it back.

Fedace
12-07-2008, 08:10 PM
I was wondering about Clayton and his 1HBH. From most of the vid, his BH was for the most part mostly his dominant arm. I saw little extending by his left arm. I would love to have his BH compared to mine, but from what I have been told on the one hander, the left hand for righties is supposed to counter-balance your weight and with Clayton he was either leaning back or left arm barely left his hip. I think he's a great player, but could someone post a clip on his BH in better form? Thanks.

No, Alex's main weapon is the Forehand.

socaltennnis
12-07-2008, 10:26 PM
No, Alex's main weapon is the Forehand.

I believe you misunderstood. His statement was regarding the role of the non-dominant arm in the backhand stroke.

fedace, did you even graduate from college?

10isDad
12-08-2008, 01:33 AM
post deleted...............

Joeyg
12-08-2008, 07:19 AM
I think the mods cut you some slack when your post is correct. Even if it may sound inflammatory.

I thought we were all on Dr. Fedace's "ignore" list?

Storm_Kyori
12-08-2008, 07:20 AM
I believe you misunderstood. His statement was regarding the role of the non-dominant arm in the backhand stroke.

Yes, thank you. I'm sorry Fedace, I don't follow these guys so I don't know which strokes are their weapons. Anybody though that can answer my question?

NickC
12-08-2008, 07:31 AM
LOL,,, biggest idiot as you say is still smarter than you since i graduated at Stanford,,,,,you are a riot...truly... i just can't stop laughing when i read your post.:)

No, you didn't even pass first grade. If you even stepped foot on campus at Stamford, you'd have much better logical and grammatical skills than the ones you are currently using. Your grammar skills as of late show that you don't even possess the intellect of a fish, let alone of a Stamford grad. And don't even get me started on the maturity front...


I dare you to back up your claims. Let's see a photocopy or a picture of your degree or transcript. Back up your statements or leave this board.

Joeyg
12-08-2008, 08:25 AM
Please don't leave, Dr. Fedace!! My daily ration of comedy would be dramatically affected.

Rob_C
12-08-2008, 04:36 PM
I think the mods cut you some slack when your post is correct. Even if it may sound inflammatory.

I thought we were all on Dr. Fedace's "ignore" list?

I guess not. Maybe if I hadnt said anything it would have stayed up.

Even though I agree, I posted to point out the hypocrisy of some people who claim they or their friends are being attacked, yet they have no issue with doing what they criticize.

Fedace
12-08-2008, 08:15 PM
No, you didn't even pass first grade. If you even stepped foot on campus at Stamford, you'd have much better logical and grammatical skills than the ones you are currently using. Your grammar skills as of late show that you don't even possess the intellect of a fish, let alone of a Stamford grad. And don't even get me started on the maturity front...


I dare you to back up your claims. Let's see a photocopy or a picture of your degree or transcript. Back up your statements or leave this board.

Yes thank you. i am looking at my diploma from Stanford hanging on my wall. thank you, it is nice to know that you are so concerned.:):)

[K]aotic
12-08-2008, 10:44 PM
Yes thank you. i am looking at my diploma from Stanford hanging on my wall. thank you, it is nice to know that you are so concerned.:):)

i think that if you graduated from stanford, you wouldn't act like this on the board. In my opinion, it takes a certain amount of maturity to get in there, let alone graduate. Not only that, but what did you major in? chemistry? because i know their chemistry department stinks.

socaltennnis
12-09-2008, 01:41 AM
Yes thank you. i am looking at my diploma from Stanford hanging on my wall. thank you, it is nice to know that you are so concerned.:):)

its okay... stanford is allowed to make mistakes sometimes. afterall, clayton can lose in tennis also.

NickC
12-09-2008, 10:13 AM
Yes thank you. i am looking at my diploma from Stanford hanging on my wall. thank you, it is nice to know that you are so concerned.:):)

Ok then, prove it. Let's see a picture of YOUR diploma. Post it, or leave these boards.

deddied
12-09-2008, 11:25 AM
I'm feeling the love......

Fedace
12-09-2008, 12:55 PM
Ok then, prove it. Let's see a picture of YOUR diploma. Post it, or leave these boards.

Ahhh,,,well, you are such an _____. There is NO WAY on this God's Green earth that i am going to post the pic of my diploma, with my Name and Degree and year of graduation on this PUBLIC forum with all this nutty stalkers around. NOT going to happen. and another point is i have no desire to prove anything to anyone such as you, who has no significance to me Whatsoever.... So why would i do that ??? What possible motive would i have to do such a thing ???:confused::confused:

J011yroger
12-09-2008, 01:55 PM
Ahhh,,,well, you are such an _____. There is NO WAY on this God's Green earth that i am going to post the pic of my diploma, with my Name and Degree and year of graduation on this PUBLIC forum with all this nutty stalkers around. NOT going to happen. and another point is i have no desire to prove anything to anyone such as you, who has no significance to me Whatsoever.... So why would i do that ??? What possible motive would i have to do such a thing ???:confused::confused:

To show that you have character, and are proud of yourself.

Heck, you could even put a paper with your TW screename atop the diploma where your real name is, if you wanted to show the truth and protect your identity

J

TourTenor
12-09-2008, 03:55 PM
To show that you have character, and are proud of yourself.

Heck, you could even put a paper with your TW screename atop the diploma where your real name is, if you wanted to show the truth and protect your identity

J
Now he's going to have to find someone's diploma to post. If he puts the one he's "using" up .... we might notice that it says "Standford" at the top.:oops:

Headshotterer
12-09-2008, 05:16 PM
No, you didn't even pass first grade. If you even stepped foot on campus at Stamford, you'd have much better logical and grammatical skills than the ones you are currently using. Your grammar skills as of late show that you don't even possess the intellect of a fish, let alone of a Stamford grad. And don't even get me started on the maturity front...


I dare you to back up your claims. Let's see a photocopy or a picture of your degree or transcript. Back up your statements or leave this board.

?
Whats Stamford

NickC
12-09-2008, 06:31 PM
?
Whats Stamford

Sorry, misspelled.

NickC
12-09-2008, 06:34 PM
So why would i do that ??? What possible motive would i have to do such a thing ???:confused::confused:

Why? Because it could prove us all wrong, prove to us that you're not a brain dead idiot that didn't even pass the first grade. Because it could actually build your reputation around here (even though you've worked so hard to have a negative reputation) and people wouldn't mock you out as much. It's not about what we have to loose, it's about what you have to gain, which in this case, is a considerable amount.

J011yroger
12-09-2008, 08:57 PM
Now he's going to have to find someone's diploma to post. If he puts the one he's "using" up .... we might notice that it says "Standford" at the top.:oops:

I doubt he has the mental capacity or the initiative for either.

J

mikro112
12-10-2008, 12:40 AM
Hey guys,

I found Fedace's diploma on the interwebz...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/mikro112/diploma.gif

/End thread.

P.S.: No need to flame me. I know how to post properly, but I don't have time to spend years on TT to answer to all the stupid conversations/posts. (This doesn't mean that all posts are stupid, but a BIG amount of posts is very stupid.

mikro112
12-10-2008, 12:43 AM
WTF? You're not allowed to edit posts here? :eek:

Btw, that version in post #100 is a fake. This is the real deal:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/mikro112/diploma-1.gif

gocard
12-13-2008, 03:31 PM
question: can the general public go watch the indoor matches in January? I'd be interested in going to check out the Stanford tennis teams play :)

T10s747
12-13-2008, 07:25 PM
IMO, there is better competition in Pac 10 tennis than at Bolleteri's which is full of juniors. Pac 10 has older more experience players than ITF jumiors, it's a step up. Also, just because you were a decent pro doesn't mean you are necessarily a great coach! Besides, most of the new coaches ONLY teach baseline tennis. They should be teaching all court tennis a la Federer, Sampras, which only old schoool coaches know how to teach. This is not quantum physics, tennis is simple.

Shawn James
12-15-2008, 07:04 AM
email me please at jamessh@usa.redcross.org happy holidays, shawn

Chauvalito
12-15-2008, 07:24 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but who are these guys?

Fedace
12-15-2008, 07:44 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but who are these guys?

Division 1 college tennis players. they both play for Stanford tennis team. Alex Clayton has won the US open Juniors doubles title. and Klahn and Thacher was ranked in top 5 in boys 18's.:)

Joeyg
12-15-2008, 08:39 AM
WOW!!! A Fedace post not loaded with hyperbole. Perhaps the boy is learning.

Fedace
12-15-2008, 08:56 AM
Ahhhhh, I only wish these guys played when i was going to Stanford, then i would have been able to watch these guys play every week.....

Joeyg
12-15-2008, 10:51 AM
Back to the usual BS. I guess I spoke too soon.

goober
12-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Hey Feddie, nice timing on your response. I am glad that your ignore list is working out so well for you.

Andres
12-15-2008, 12:38 PM
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8035/diplomago6.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diplomago6.jpg)

TourTenor
12-15-2008, 02:35 PM
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8035/diplomago6.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diplomago6.jpg)
Correspondence School??;)

goober
12-15-2008, 02:41 PM
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8035/diplomago6.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diplomago6.jpg)

I think they spelled tetris wrong in your "Master of Science" degree. :)

Michael Bluth
12-15-2008, 02:51 PM
Division 1 college tennis players. they both play for Stanford tennis team. Alex Clayton has won the US open Juniors doubles title. and Klahn and Thacher was ranked in top 5 in boys 18's.:)

Klahn has also been in the top 20 ITF Junior ranks in the world.

mrmo1115
12-15-2008, 05:35 PM
Who won this match?

gocard
12-16-2008, 05:23 PM
does anyone know about attending the indoor matches for their next home meet? Can the general public go to watch these meets?

mordecai
12-27-2008, 04:20 PM
It's really funny to see everyone agree that fedace is an idiot, and to see fedace constantly dig himself into a deeper hole.

Mada
12-28-2008, 02:23 PM
Ahhhhh, I only wish these guys played when i was going to Stanford, then i would have been able to watch these guys play every week.....

I don't know you, you don't know me, so I am speaking completely from an outsiders view. You made a thread about apologizing to forum members for lying or being sarcastic or w/e it was; and here you are with posts like this that are just stupid. It's obnoxious to say things like that and "ohhh im sitting here staring at my diploma", just why would you even say that, seriously?

Fedace
12-28-2008, 02:30 PM
I don't know you, you don't know me, so I am speaking completely from an outsiders view. You made a thread about apologizing to forum members for lying or being sarcastic or w/e it was; and here you are with posts like this that are just stupid. It's obnoxious to say things like that and "ohhh im sitting here staring at my diploma", just why would you even say that, seriously?

LOL....Exactly my point. I know what i have, and i don't need to prove it. though these idiot stalkers fascination and admiration of myself amuses me. and scares me at the same time...:):shock:

goldfish81
01-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Who won this match?

clayton won in 3 sets

pac10s.com

why_so_curious93
01-12-2010, 02:24 PM
Is there a way to download this video ??

keepvid.com

copy paste the link and there you go my good man :)

I love your enthusiasm for Stanford and coach Whitlinger and clayton :)

If wouldn't mind going over to the tips/instruction section I would love to here your comments on my vid as well! thanks :)

heres the link to save you the trouble of finding it : http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=306338

Pushmaster
01-12-2010, 03:59 PM
The guy in the red is a 4.0-4.5 at best, the other guy is maybe a 4.0 on a good day. LOL

Seriously though these guys are insanely good, especially Alex, that backhand pass looked like something straight out of Tommy Haas. 99% of the guys on this forum would be lucky to get a game of either one of these dudes, myself included.