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VamosRafa
02-18-2005, 12:22 AM
I alluded to this below, but I just got more info about what happened in the Nadal vs. Calleri quarterfinal match in Brasil.

Because of rain, both of them played matches earlier today, which they won. And they played their quarterfinal match as the last match of the day. Their last two matches have been very competitive, and going into today they were 1-1.

I saw that Rafa had won the match 6-2, 6-3 on the scoreboard, and was putting that up on the vamosrafael.com website. But when I went to verify the score, I saw it was heading to a tiebreak.

We have now more info as to what happened, as translated from Spanish/Portugese, courtesy of a bi-lingual fan on our site:

"The Costa do Sauipe website article about the match Nadal-Calleri says that in `the second match point when Nadal was serving 5-3 up to win the match, Nadal served and the return of Calleri was very close to the line, then the umpire said " out ", but when Calleri was going to the net to shake hands with Nadal, Rafa corrected the decision and said the ball was " in "."

As the article said, this fair play behaviour could cost him the match, because after the match point Calleri broke Nadal in that game 5-4, Calleri confidence grew up and they arrived to the tie break where Calleri was always up and won it after a winner."

Rafa did win the match in the third set. He broke twice, Calleri broke once, but in the end Rafa prevailed 6-4.

Some fans are concerned Rafa expended too much energy today, and won't be fit to face home-town favorte Mello tomorrow.

That could be true -- but what he did today was something Moya would do.

Although he has a a very competitive instinct, it's nice to see he also has that element of sportsmanship.

robbie_dademo
02-18-2005, 01:56 AM
its always good to hear something like that. well done rafael

gustavo33
02-18-2005, 03:44 AM
itīs exactly what happened... itīs good to see honest players...

RoddickRulez
02-18-2005, 03:44 AM
i love nadal his game everything and to hear that makes me like him even more

Gugafan_Redux
02-18-2005, 07:01 AM
Holy cow. Match point, return is called out by the ump. I'd b shaking hands so fast. Credit to Rafa.

predrag
02-18-2005, 07:05 AM
Holy cow. Match point, return is called out by the ump. I'd b shaking hands so fast. Credit to Rafa.

Actually I did this twice in my life.
The only thing is, I lost both times.
Wowed not to do it again :):)
Never had a chance, luckily :D

Regards, Predrag

baseliner
02-18-2005, 07:57 AM
Too bad that noted sportsman John Mcenroe wasn't calling the match. Good sportsmanship is always in vogue. Kudos to Nadal.

Kevin Patrick
02-18-2005, 08:09 AM
A couple of other impressive displays of sportsmanship:
4th Round of the '01 Aussie Open, Grosjean serves an ace against Norman on match point but it is called out. Norman says it was good & shakes hands.

This one gets my vote for best sportsmanship of all time:
semis of the '82 French- 17 year old Wilander has match point against Clerc (& this was after 4 hours of play) During a long rally one of Clerc's shots is called out. Wilander says it was good & they play the point over, Wilander wins the match twice.

raftermania
02-18-2005, 11:43 AM
Hey guys, I replied to this in the handedness thread (of all places right?!) and I was wondering if anyone knew which other players have concede a matchpoint. hehe, looks like we had some admissions about giving up matchpoints from some users on the board. Too bad Predrag, keep up that attitude it should provide fruits for the future.

But the real moral question you have to ask is if Rafa would have done the same in the finals of the French?? ehhhhhh???? :wink:

ibemadskillzz
02-18-2005, 08:03 PM
good sportsmanship, but I think players should not try to change umps call, should go with it no matter what- Nadal should have kept quiet and went up to shake his hand, Calleri did not even care anyways. Would have saved tons of energy. I would love to see a 5 setter grand slam championship match 6-0, 6-0, and up 5-0 serving at 40-0 and change a bad call and end up losing 6-0, 6-0, 5-7, 0-6, 0-6. I would laugh at that for ages.

K!ck5w3rvE
02-19-2005, 12:12 AM
But the real moral question you have to ask is if Rafa would have done the same in the finals of the French?? ehhhhhh????

Of course he would have. The thing about good sportsmanship is that you don't think about doing it; or think about overruling the ump or anything like that, you just do it because you instinctively do it. Its not something you bragg about or anything like that, you do it because it's the right thing to do.

equinox
02-19-2005, 02:25 AM
This was a very sporting gesture from nadal. Though i really think he have let the umpire do his job.

perfmode
02-19-2005, 06:17 AM
i love nadal his game everything and to hear that makes me like him even more

hello, you're ***.

VamosRafa
02-19-2005, 01:32 PM
This was a very sporting gesture from nadal. Though i really think he have let the umpire do his job.

It may come back to bite him in today's final. He has spent a lot more time on court than Alberto Martin -- and much of that was spent in the wee hours (after rain delays), playing that third set against Calleri.

And then he faced the hostile crowd against Mello in another tough three setter, when Martin was playing an Australian qualifier.

So, in hindsight, his sportsmanship may cost him quite a bit.

But still, it was a nice thing to do.

VamosRafa
02-19-2005, 01:33 PM
This was a very sporting gesture from nadal. Though i really think he have let the umpire do his job.

It may come back to bite him in today's final. He has spent a lot more time on court than Alberto Martin -- and much of that was spent in the wee hours (after rain delays), playing that third set against Calleri.

And then he faced the hostile crowd against Mello in another tough three setter, when Martin was playing an Australian qualifier.

So, in hindsight, his sportsmanship may cost him quite a bit.

But still, it was a nice thing (and the right thing) to do.

Aykhan Mammadov
02-19-2005, 02:09 PM
Don't you overestimate the heroism of Nadal ?

Don't you forget that they played on clay court where it is obviously seen and there is a track of the ball - is it out or in ?

If he did it on grass, hard or carpet court I would appreciate him, but in the case of clay it is considered as a dishonest action if you don't tell the truth, because that truth is evidently lying on the court.

I saw many times Safin told the truth and was very correct with opponents. But nobody here at forum mentioned that about Safin.

In general, I'm surprising that there is a group of posters whose nick-name directly or indirectly connected with Nadal. Will it make him a great tennis-player as those I mentioned in my another thread " VERY VERY INTERESTING FACTS" ?

Aykhan Mammadov
02-21-2005, 12:48 PM
I was prohibited at forum last a few days and my threads were invisible for a few days.

In the post 16 I suggested another view to behavior of Nadal which you didn't see. I want to revive this thread.

veroniquem
09-25-2010, 07:56 PM
For those constantly accusing Rafa of being a cheater: Rafa was always a remarkable example of sportsmanship. That's one of the stories that have defined him as a player: pure class.

ronalditop
09-25-2010, 08:13 PM
For those constantly accusing Rafa of being a cheater: Rafa was always a remarkable example of sportsmanship. That's one of the stories that have defined him as a player: pure class.

http://www.icanhazgeekpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/roflmfao.jpg

Manus Domini
09-26-2010, 08:21 AM
Don't you overestimate the heroism of Nadal ?

Don't you forget that they played on clay court where it is obviously seen and there is a track of the ball - is it out or in ?

If he did it on grass, hard or carpet court I would appreciate him, but in the case of clay it is considered as a dishonest action if you don't tell the truth, because that truth is evidently lying on the court.

I saw many times Safin told the truth and was very correct with opponents. But nobody here at forum mentioned that about Safin.

In general, I'm surprising that there is a group of posters whose nick-name directly or indirectly connected with Nadal. Will it make him a great tennis-player as those I mentioned in my another thread " VERY VERY INTERESTING FACTS" ?

did it during USO final against Joker

Mustard
09-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Nadal's world ranking at the time this thread was started was 48. He had an amazing rise over the next few months.

Limpinhitter
09-26-2010, 10:16 AM
I alluded to this below, but I just got more info about what happened in the Nadal vs. Calleri quarterfinal match in Brasil.

Because of rain, both of them played matches earlier today, which they won. And they played their quarterfinal match as the last match of the day. Their last two matches have been very competitive, and going into today they were 1-1.

I saw that Rafa had won the match 6-2, 6-3 on the scoreboard, and was putting that up on the vamosrafael.com website. But when I went to verify the score, I saw it was heading to a tiebreak.

We have now more info as to what happened, as translated from Spanish/Portugese, courtesy of a bi-lingual fan on our site:

"The Costa do Sauipe website article about the match Nadal-Calleri says that in `the second match point when Nadal was serving 5-3 up to win the match, Nadal served and the return of Calleri was very close to the line, then the umpire said " out ", but when Calleri was going to the net to shake hands with Nadal, Rafa corrected the decision and said the ball was " in "."

As the article said, this fair play behaviour could cost him the match, because after the match point Calleri broke Nadal in that game 5-4, Calleri confidence grew up and they arrived to the tie break where Calleri was always up and won it after a winner."

Rafa did win the match in the third set. He broke twice, Calleri broke once, but in the end Rafa prevailed 6-4.

Some fans are concerned Rafa expended too much energy today, and won't be fit to face home-town favorte Mello tomorrow.

That could be true -- but what he did today was something Moya would do.

Although he has a a very competitive instinct, it's nice to see he also has that element of sportsmanship.

Yeah, but, would he have done it against Federer?
PS: Uggh! I just realized I've responeded to a post from 2005! Guh!

Mustard
09-26-2010, 10:17 AM
Yeah, but, would he have done it against Federer?

LOL. Nadal had only played Federer once at the time that post was made.

veroniquem
09-26-2010, 10:18 AM
Of course. Why not?

woodrow1029
09-27-2010, 07:51 AM
For those constantly accusing Rafa of being a cheater: Rafa was always a remarkable example of sportsmanship. That's one of the stories that have defined him as a player: pure class.

As Aykhan's avatar suggests:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/image.php?u=1018&dateline=1121982010 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/member.php?u=1018)

illkhiboy
09-27-2010, 08:17 PM
As Aykhan's avatar suggests:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/image.php?u=1018&dateline=1121982010 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/member.php?u=1018)

What do the umpiring officials think of him? What about you?

decades
09-27-2010, 09:52 PM
rafa has not played in almost a month. he just played three entire sets. when are people going to stop babying these players?

abmk
09-27-2010, 10:13 PM
As Aykhan's avatar suggests:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/image.php?u=1018&dateline=1121982010 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/member.php?u=1018)

LOL, good one :)

veroniquem
09-27-2010, 10:39 PM
As Aykhan's avatar suggests:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/image.php?u=1018&dateline=1121982010 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/member.php?u=1018)
That is an annoying little guy maniacally banging his head. It's not an argument. No player is ever obliged to give up a point in a situation like that, Rafa chose to do it and he still regularly does it (although not necessarily on match point!) and I've noticed not all players do it, far from it. As I said: class.

jackson vile
09-28-2010, 10:09 AM
Roger = Honest and the best
Nadal = Dishonest and the worst

Roger rules!