THIS guy is applying for college? [Archive]

Mansewerz

12-20-2008, 06:53 PM

1h backhanders get beaten easily

This is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard. People with poor backhands get beaten easily, whether they're one handed or two handed.

Have you seen this guy play matches?

My sound right now is out, so i'm gonna watch the rest of the vid later, but his backhand, from what I've seen, looks solid.

Okazaki Fragment

12-20-2008, 07:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiyiRmMHnx0&feature=related

he should skip college and go straight to the ATP tour, IMO. (if it's even possible).:)

Why? Unless you're top50, a degree from a top university is worth far more than a few years on the ATP tour.

PopWar

12-20-2008, 07:14 PM

He's pretty good, but he might get pushed around by big hitters with that high bouncing forehand

tennisfreak15347

12-20-2008, 07:44 PM

1h backhanders get beaten easily

not true. it's not the type of backhand you have, but how good it is. his 1H BH is very solid. I might also mention that there are plenty of ATP pros who use the 1H Backhand.

OhDear

12-20-2008, 07:58 PM

He's pretty good, but he might get pushed around by big hitters with that high bouncing forehand

Nadal, anyone?

miniRafa386

12-20-2008, 08:23 PM

his strokes are kinda weird. he has a weird take back on his fh. and his bh would get dominated.

RunningBeagle

12-20-2008, 08:36 PM

Agree, weak backhand. His hitting partner is better and keeping it all together.

BravoRed691

12-20-2008, 08:40 PM

his strokes are kinda weird. he has a weird take back on his fh. and his bh would get dominated.

Does it really matter how someone strokes look (yea to a certain extent technically sound strokes have a certain look to them)? I mean don't some people say murray's new fh looks funky too? And what about santoro's strokes?
Hard to say that his BH would get dominated though...would need to evidence playing other people and him hitting on the move no?

Br

BravoRed691

12-20-2008, 08:41 PM

Agree, weak backhand. His hitting partner is better and keeping it all together.

OO yea...i think someone on youtube hinted his partner wasn't that good...well on the video, he is at least as good as the player in question...Then again, who am i to critique others lol

Br

OhDear

12-20-2008, 08:43 PM

Where is all this "bad-backhand" talk coming from? His backhand is fine.

Lejanius

12-20-2008, 08:45 PM

1h backhanders get beaten easily

agreed look at Federer and Sampras before him

oneguy21

12-20-2008, 08:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiyiRmMHnx0&feature=related

he should skip college and go straight to the ATP tour, IMO. (if it's even possible).:)

He's pretty good, but I don't understand why you think he should turn pro. I"ve seen better recruitment videos.

BravoRed691

12-20-2008, 08:52 PM

agreed look at Federer and Sampras before him

Yea and Laver and Lendl too...they suck too right?

Br

ronalditop

12-20-2008, 08:59 PM

too much spin and too slow shots. i dont think he can make it to the pro tour.

Mansewerz

12-20-2008, 09:24 PM

too much spin and too slow shots. i dont think he can make it to the pro tour.

Maybe he's showing consistency in the recruitment video. Maybe he can crank, but when he wants to,

teppeiahn1

12-20-2008, 10:54 PM

Maybe he's showing consistency in the recruitment video. Maybe he can crank, but when he wants to,

He can definately crank it if he wants to. He just know that playing percentage is better and keeping you opponent on defence and waiting for a short ball is a smarter way of playing.

jasoncho92

12-21-2008, 12:14 AM

I still dont know how people hit so much topspin lol. I am unable to hit shots like he does.

Teamtomo

12-21-2008, 02:30 AM

His hitting partner is better and keeping it all together.

Agreed. +1 on weak backhand.

BreakPoint

12-21-2008, 03:12 AM

agreed look at Federer and Sampras before him

Yea and Laver and Lendl too...they suck too right?

Br
Yeah, and also McEnroe, Becker, and Edberg....they were all terrible and never won anything because they were so easily dominated. :oops:

halalula1234

12-21-2008, 04:19 AM

woa he looks kinda like gonzalez in the younger form and better looking one and they even dress similarly on court. He has consistent groundstroke very top spinny.

tennis_balla

12-21-2008, 04:26 AM

bpp

12-21-2008, 05:08 AM

Sorry guys, I think the guy would be a very mediocre D-1 player at best much less professional. Don't get me wrong, he is good but there is nothing that I watched that is special. I watched another video on his serve and based on his form, his serve is definitely very weak for D-1.

I googled his name and it came up with him losing 6-1,6-1 to someone playing D-1 tennis now. The guy he lost to was not playing a singles position for his college team (in other words NOT top 6 on the team)...sorry.

nadalfan!

12-21-2008, 05:57 AM

Anyone notice how high the balls were soaring over the net? Especially on the backhand... When I saw Roger practicing, the shots were like lasers across the net, so this dude will not make it too far in the pros. Maybe a pretty good university but definately not the pros.

tennisfreak15347

12-21-2008, 07:50 AM

too much spin and too slow shots. i dont think he can make it to the pro tour.

he hits a very heavy forehand... and I'm sure he'd play COMPLETELY different if he were in a match.

Soar

12-21-2008, 08:20 AM

He's pretty good, but he might get pushed around by big hitters with that high bouncing forehand

LOL
he's hitting really heavy, so he can get the short ball that he can flatten out.
his technique is clearly sound enough for him to play more risky/(really just flashy) shots. he's probably just a smart tennis player.

150mph_

12-21-2008, 08:26 AM

compare his video against this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNFxnShJ9o&feature=related

^ thats how good you have to be to do well in the professional league...

ronalditop

12-21-2008, 08:43 AM

compare his video against this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNFxnShJ9o&feature=related

^ thats how good you have to be to do well in the professional league...

you can see murray is just practicing and yet he hits really hard.

SaunderS

12-21-2008, 08:52 AM

IMO, this guy rushes into his backhand, and his contact point for it is too high. Thats what i think anyway, but i play 2hbh

150mph_

12-21-2008, 09:01 AM

you can see murray is just practicing and yet he hits really hard.

exactly, to be a pro you need to hit hard and be consistent...

tennis_balla

12-21-2008, 09:22 AM

compare his video against this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNFxnShJ9o&feature=related

^ thats how good you have to be to do well in the professional league...

Thats how a player (Murray) plays who is ranked inside the Top 10 nowadays. You're comparing a guy who wants to get into college to a Top 10 player in the world. Big difference sorry, pretty obvious.

Charlzz

12-21-2008, 09:48 AM

Yup, you guys are all right on the money. You can totally judge if a player is going to go pro or not just by watching a few minutes of tape of a guy rallying from the baseline staying consistent. :rolleyes:

It's even easier than that. You can simply say they aren't going to go pro. Don't even bother looking at the video.

The likelihood that some random video of a guy wanting to play college tennis will turn out to be the next Todd Martin or Malivai Washington is fairly low. Even if they look good, the odds are they can't compete at the pro level or at high-level college. If they are applying to colleges and no one recognized the crazy talent they had, then that would be even more against the odds.

It's so rare for anyone to go pro that odds are in your favor to say person X isn't pro material. The rare times you are wrong, well, who cares? It's just a tennis forum! We speculate on stuff all the time!

S H O W S T O P P E R !

12-21-2008, 09:52 AM

1h backhanders get beaten easily

Fed won 13 Slams with a 1HBH. Tell that to him.

The kid looks really good, but he doesn't want to go pro. He came from a foreign country (probably very poor) and wants to learn and provide for his family. I can't blame him for that.

150mph_

12-21-2008, 10:11 AM

Your arguments are becoming more and more ridiculous. So to be ranked Top 200, 300, 400 in the world is pointless according to you? and all tennis players after they stop playing competitively are crippled? Thats how you make it sound.

First off its called a sport for a reason and everyone goes through injuries and such, it happens its part of it whether you're playing tiddlywinks or tennis at the highest level.
Second, I'd rather make $50,000 and travel the world, see different places and meet different people then sit in one place and not really go anywhere or see anything.
Besides, pro tennis doesn't only mean Top 100. There are a ton of awesome players all over the ranking system. No need to b!tch and moan about other peoples decisions in life. If they wanna do it so be it. With an attitude like yours no one would achieve anything in life.

my saying "go big or dont go at all"

Kaptain Karl

12-21-2008, 10:28 AM

Charlzz

12-21-2008, 10:35 AM

my saying "go big or dont go at all"

Which one are you doing? Kinda looks like from your sig like it's option 2.

150mph_

12-21-2008, 11:05 AM

Which one are you doing? Kinda looks like from your sig like it's option 2.

im a nihilist
i support doing nothing, period
we are here to die anyway

mental midget

12-21-2008, 11:46 AM

i've got no interest on tearing anybody down, or building them up for that matter, but i just don't think this guy looks particularly threatening. maybe a decent claycourter, but unless he can abbreviate that forehand backswing, and flatten it out, he's gonna get shoved right off the court by anybody who can step in and flatten it out. every time he's pulled even a little bit wide, he serves up an extremely short ball. also opens up too early off the backhand side.

also, for a casual hitting session, he misses a whole lot of meatball feeds. the division one guys i've seen just don't miss these type of balls.

BTW-

not saying he's not a good tennis player. but when people start throwing around 'division 1,' let alone 'pro,' well, that's inviting some serious scrutiny, if you're being serious about it.

NamRanger

12-21-2008, 11:54 AM

If you're posting videos on YouTube for college recruitment, chances are, you aren't going pro.

db379

12-21-2008, 03:05 PM

Very solid player. Good technique, VERY good footwork and good action on the ball. From this practice session it's difficult to say more, but that's already clear this guy is a solid 5.0 or better. IMO, he has a good chance of getting a college deal.

herosol

12-21-2008, 04:58 PM

wilsonplayer

12-21-2008, 06:59 PM

this guy IMO would probably play middle of the road at maybe a D1 school ranked outside of the top 40. that's just based on his strokes, not results. I just played a guy who was 100 ITF 4 years ago and plays 2-3 at a D1 school ranked outside of the top 70. Based on how good he was, the guy in the video looked a little stronger so maybe middle of the road at the 50th D1 school.

mental midget

12-21-2008, 07:06 PM

you guys are delusional if you think pace is the only thing that gets people into the pros.

and its that same delusion that won't get any of you anywhere in this sport.
seriously it really isn't about power as McEnroe says.

this is true. pros are about:

- consistency
- movement and endurance
- control, both of the ball, and of yourself with regards to smart shot selection

no shortage of knuckleheads who can pound the ball.

scraps234

12-21-2008, 07:10 PM

:)If you're posting videos on YouTube for college recruitment, chances are, you aren't going pro.

agreed he hits a lot of top spin to

ronalditop

12-21-2008, 07:31 PM

If anyone is preparing a video in hopes of getting the attention of a college coach, PLEASE don't spend the whole clip on watching you just hit. Put real points from real competition on your clip.

Waste of time.

- KK

thats exactly what i say. why people always post videos of them just practicing and some expect us to rate them based on only that. they should at least post videos where they are playing seriously, a real match.