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max
01-06-2009, 07:32 AM
More hate crimes.


Suspected Anti-marriage Vandals Strike San Francisco church

San Francisco, Jan 6, 2009 (CNA).- Opponents of Proposition 8 are suspected to have vandalized Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in San Francisco over the weekend, spray-painting on the church black swastikas and the words “Ratzinger” and “Niederauer,” the respective last names of the Pope and the Archbishop of San Francisco.

Most Holy Redeemer parish, located in the predominantly homosexual Castro District of San Francisco, has been billed as a “gay-friendly” church. It has previously participated in the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade and reportedly leased parish space to the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a group of homosexuals who mockingly dress as nuns.

Responding to the vandalism, Most Holy Redeemer pastor Fr. Steve Meriweather told KCBS that his parishioners also oppose Proposition 8, a successful California ballot measure that overturned a 2008 state Supreme Court decision which imposed same-sex “marriage” on the state.

“I think it's unfortunate that they selected our community to attack," said Father Meriweather, "because it's the wrong one."

Bill Donohue, President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, in a Monday press release asked Catholics nationwide to respond to the hostilities following the passage of Proposition 8 by contacting San Francisco’s Mayor Gavin Newsom.

“In the wake of Proposition 8, innocent persons have been assaulted, churches have been vandalized, a white substance resembling anthrax was sent to the Knights of Columbus and to Mormon temples, supporters of traditional marriage have been branded ****s, African Americans have been called the ‘N-word,’ houses and cars have been trashed, etc.”

“Unfortunately, most of those in the gay community have been silent about these acts,” he claimed.

Donohue said some blame for the vandalism should be attributed to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, arguing that they “have shown nothing but contempt for the First Amendment rights of Catholics.”

He also referred to blasphemous and obscene activities at the homosexual Folsom Street Fair, saying San Francisco’s political leaders ignored them but were “quite vocal” about condemning the Catholic Church in a 2006 resolution.

“For those who love to write about ‘root causes,’ let them ponder the guilt of these public officials. Moreover, leaders in the gay community show no leadership when it comes to denouncing incivility committed in the name of gay rights. This has got to end.”

ollinger
01-06-2009, 09:27 AM
Quite an oversimplification to call these "hate crimes." I see a difference between senseless aggression and targeting opponents in a struggle over perceived rights, though neither is readily defensible.

Steady Eddy
01-06-2009, 12:30 PM
If leftists refuse to call these 'hate crimes' then it shows that their platform really isn't principled, and is only a trojan horse for establishing their agenda. For example in this instance they are allowing gays to seek protection from 'hate crimes', but not Catholics. This is a double standard.

YULitle
01-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Yes, certainly hateful... what is a hate crime? Is it merely Crime + Profiling? Either way, this is certainly a crime committed out of hate.

One thing made me turn my head:
“I think it's unfortunate that they selected our community to attack," said Father Meriweather, "because it's the wrong one."

What is he suggesting? It sounds like, to me, that he is not standing up against hate/vandalism, but is instead standing up against it being done to him or his parish, which is decidedly less valiant.

10sfreak
01-06-2009, 03:32 PM
^^^Hey, good catch there, YULitle!! I read that, but didn't catch that aspect of it. Good job!

Dedans Penthouse
01-07-2009, 01:07 PM
If leftists refuse to call these 'hate crimes' then it shows that their platform really isn't principled, and is only a trojan horse for establishing their agenda. For example in this instance they are allowing gays to seek protection from 'hate crimes', but not Catholics. This is a double standard.Yep, and if the shoe were on the "other foot" Steady Eddy, you could bet your bottom dollar that the post count would be triple the current number of this thread, that we'd be on at least page two; that we'd have at least 3 cheeky priest-skullin'-Joey-the-tragically-well-hung alterboy allusions and lastly, that my man superstition himself would hysterically come flyin' out of the woodwork so as to self-righteously fire slings 'n arrows at anything resembling "apostalic" ;-)

Steady Eddy
01-07-2009, 08:03 PM
^^^Yep, this forum has people who think outside that box. :)

Fee
01-07-2009, 08:28 PM
If that particular Church really is viewed as 'gay friendly' then the gay community in SF would know that. The idea has been floated that some (perhaps many, I don't know) of these acts of vandalism were not committed by Prop 8 opponents, but were committed by people who wanted to smear the Prop 8 opponents, and this could genuinely be one of those. Now, there were plenty of acts of vandalism and harassment caught on tape in the week or so after the election, so the gay marriage supporters are not completely innocent, but it's been two months and the anger has mostly subsided into 'what's the next step' type of action. I have very real doubts about this particular attack on this particular church.

Jet Rink
01-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Yep, and if the shoe were on the "other foot" Steady Eddy, you could bet your bottom dollar that the post count would be triple the current number of this thread, that we'd be on at least page two; that we'd have at least 3 cheeky priest-skullin'-Joey-the-tragically-well-hung alterboy allusions and lastly, that my man superstition himself would hysterically come flyin' out of the woodwork so as to self-righteously fire slings 'n arrows at anything resembling "apostalic" ;-)

Amen brother.