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Moose Malloy
01-14-2009, 10:40 AM
just read this:

It was the eighth time in her career that Williams has come from a match point down to win. On six of those occasions she has gone on to win the tournament.


I can come up with 5 events that she won after having been match point down:

2003 AO (Clijsters)
2004 Beijing (Kuznetsova)
2005 AO (Sharapova)
2007 Key Biscayne (Henin)
2008 Bangalore (Venus)

anyone know what the other event was?

also, anyone know what male players have won multiple events after being match point down? curious who the alltime leader in this would be.

I'm pretty sure that Muster won 3 or 4 events in '95 after being mp's down.

Federer's won 2 events from mp down('05 Dubai & '06 Halle)

think Becker's done this a few times as well.

vbranis
01-14-2009, 01:54 PM
also, anyone know what male players have won multiple events after being match point down? curious who the alltime leader in this would be.

I don't know, it would be interesting to find out. I do know that Davydenko saved match points in two matches to win '04 Moscow. He saved 1 against Youzhny in the SF and 3 against Rusedski in the F. Not sure if anyone else has duplicated that.

vive le beau jeu !
01-14-2009, 02:37 PM
also, anyone know what male players have won multiple events after being match point down? curious who the alltime leader in this would be.

I'm pretty sure that Muster won 3 or 4 events in '95 after being mp's down.

Federer's won 2 events from mp down('05 Dubai & '06 Halle)

think Becker's done this a few times as well.
excellent question !

from an old post...
several players did it several times (since 1993) :
muster, becker, federer, sampras, ivanisevic, rafter, henman, hewitt, roddick, etc.

over the career ?... hard to say !
becker and muster must be close to the top of the list... but among all connors 109 titles, there must be also several ones where he saved match points !
are there some stats somewhere about the number of tournaments and matches won having saved match points in the career ?
that would be interesting.found this on mentennisforums, it only comes back to 1993 but that's still interesting:

2007
- Ljubicic saved 2 MP's in SF (against Soderling) in Doha
- Youzhny saved 3 MP's in SF (against Djokovic) in Rotterdam
- Roddick saved 1 MP in F (against Mahut) in Queens Club
- Blake saved 3 MP's in 3R (against Calleri) in New Haven
- Robredo saved 2 MP's in 1R (against Mayer) in Metz
- Djokovic saved 2 MP's in QF (against Chela) in Vienna
- Karlovic saved 1 MP in QF (against Clement) in Stockholm

2006
- Ljubicic saved 1 MP in SF (against Vliegen) in Chennai
- Bracciali saved 1 MP in QF (against Horna) in Casablanca
- Nadal saved 2 MP's in F (against Federer) in Rome
- Federer saved 4 MP's in QF (against O.Rochus) in Halle
- Ferrer saved 1 MP in F (against Acasuso) in Stuttgart
- Federer saved 3 MP's in RR (against Roddick) in Shanghai-TMC

2005
- Safin saved 1 MP in SF (against Federer) in AUSTRALIAN OPEN
- Federer saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Ferrero) in Dubai
- Gaudio saved 1 MP in 1R (against Hernych) in Estoril
- Ginperi saved 3 MP's in QF (against Roddick) in Indianapolis
- Serra saved 3 MP's in 1R (against Crivoi) in Bucharest
- Moodie saved 4 MP's in SF (against Nieminen) & 2 MP's in F (against Ancic) in Tokyo

2004
- Moya saved 1 MP in 2R (against Goldstein) in Chennai
- Dupuis saved 2 MP's in QF (against Youzhny) in Milan
- Gaudio saved 2 MP's in F (against Coria) in ROLAND GARROS
- Roddick saved 3 MP's in SF (against Ljubicic) in Indianapolis
- Davydenko saved 1 MP in SF (against Youzhny) & 3 MP's in F (against Rusedski) in Moscow

2003
- Davydenko saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Ljubicic) in Adelaide
- H.T.Lee saved 1 MP in F (against Ferrero) in Sydney
- Agassi saved 1 MP in QF (against Voltchkov) in San Jose
- Hewitt saved 3 MP's in 1R (against El Aynaoui) in Indian Wells
- Roddick saved 1 MP in SF (against Agassi) in Queens Club
- Henman saved 1 MP in SF (against Roddick) in Washington
- Ferreira saved 3 MP in F (against Hewitt) in Los Angeles
- Roddick saved 2 MP's in F (against Fish) in Cincinnati
- Roddick saved 1 MP in SF (against Nalbandian) in US OPEN
- D.Sanchez saved 4 MP's in SF (against Acasuso) in Bucharest
- Massu saved 3 MP's in F (against Mathieu) in Palermo
- Ferrero saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Ferreria) in Madrid
- Federer saved 2 MP's in RR (against Agassi) in Houston-TMC

2002
- Enqvist saved 2 MP's in SF (against Kafelnikov) in Marseille
- Escude saved 3 MP's in SF (against Grosjean) in Rotterdam
- Hewitt saved 4 MP's in 2R (against Srichaphan) & 2 MP's in F (against Agassi) in San Jose
- Massu saved 2 MP's in F (against Calleri) in Buenos Aires
- El Aynaoui saved 3 MP's in QF (against Mathieu) in Casablanca
- Nalbandian saved 3 MP's in 2R (against Ferrero) in Estoril
- Ferrero saved 1 MP in 2R (against Mantilla) in Monte Carlo
- N.Lapentti saved 4 MP's in 2R (against Labadze) in St. Polten
- Kuerten saved 1 MP in F (against Coria) in Salvador
- Carlsen saved 1 MP in 3R (against Chela) in Tokyo
- Mathieu saved 1 MP in SF (against Pless) in Lyon

2001
- Ferrero saved 3 MP's in SF (against Hrbaty) in Dubai
- Gambill saved 3 MP's in QF (against Woodruff) & 3 MP's in SF (against Arthurs) in Delray Beach
- Ferrero saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Voinea) in Barcelona
- Kuerten saved 1 MP in 4R (against Russell) in ROLAND GARROS
- Godwin saved 1 MP in SF (against Carlsen) in Newport
- Rafter saved 1 MP in SF (against Safin) in Indianapolis
- Mantilla saved 9 MP's in SF (against Portas) in Palermo
- Haas saved 2 MP's in SF (against Enqvist) in Vienna
- Ljubicic saved 1 MP in SF (against Safin) in Lyon

2000
- Chela saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Kuerten) in Mexico City
- Safin saved 3 MP's in QF (against Sampras) in Toronto
- M.Norman saved 2 MP's in F (against Enqvist) in Long Island
- Balcells saved 1 MP in F (against Hantschk) in Bucharest
- Schalken saved 2 MP's in SF (against Arazi) in Tokyo
- Henman saved 2 MP's in SF (against Federer) in Vienna
- T.Johansson saved 5 MP's in QF (against Bjorkman) in Stockholm

1999
- Rios saved 1 MP in F (against Zabaleta) in Hamburg
- Vicente saved 3 MP's in F (against Arazi) in Merano
- Rafter saved 1 MP in F (against Pavel) in s'Hertogenbosch
- A.Martin saved 10 MP's in 1R (against Voinea) in Bucharest
- M.Norman saved 4 MP's in F (against Rios) in Shanghai
- Rusedski saved 1 MP in F (against Kiefer) in Vienna
- N.Lapentti saved 1 MP in 2R (against Siemerink) & 1 MP in SF (against Gustafsson) in Lyon

1998
- Hewitt saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Woodforde) in Adelaide
- Kucera saved 2 MP's in SF (against Tebbutt) in Sydney
- Rusedski saved 5 MP's in 2R (against Raoux) in Antwerp
- Siemerink saved 1 MP in 1R (against Ivanisevic) in Rotterdam
- A.Costa saved 1 MP in 1R (against Medvedev) in Hamburg
- Rafter saved 1 MP in 2R (against Medvedev) in s'Hertogenbosch
- Corretja saved 1 MP in F (against Haas) in Lyon
- Corretja saved 3 MP's in SF (against Sampras) in Hanover-TMC

1997
- Tillstrom saved 2 MP's in F (against Radulescu) in Madras
- Kafelnikov saved 3 MP's in F (against Korda) in Halle
- M.Norman saved 1 MP in 2R (against Voinea) in Bastad
- Chang saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Herrera) in Washington
- Woodruff saved 1 MP in 2R (against Siemerink) in Montreal
- Mantilla saved 3 MP's in 1R (against Fromberg) in San Marino
- Henman saved 1 MP in 1R (against Cahmpion) in Tashkent
- Gustafsson saved 2 MP's in SF (against T.Johansson) in Singapur
- Ivanisevic saved 4 MP's in SF (against Krajicek) in Vienna
- Kucera saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Carlsen) in Ostrava

1996
- Dosedel saved 1 MP in SF (against Becker) in Munich
- Meligeni saved 5 MP's in 2R (against Woodbridge) & 1 MP in QF (against Rafter) in Pinehurst
- A.Costa saved 2 MP's in 1R (against Dosedel) in Gstaad
- Sampras saved 1 MP in QF (against Corretja) in US OPEN
- Philippoussis saved 1 MP in QF (against Arazi) in Toulouse

1995
- P.McEnroe saved 1 MP in 1R (against Braasch) in Sydney
- Kafelnikov saved 1 MP in F (against Becker) in Milan
- Sinner saved 2 MP's in F (against Olhovskiy) in Copenhagen
- Muster saved 1 MP in QF (against J.Sanchez) in Estoril
- Muster saved 1 MP in 1R (against Burillo) in Barcelona
- Muster saved 2 MP's in F (against Becker) in Monte Carlo
- Sampras saved 3 MP's in SF (against Goellner) in Queens Club
- Rosset saved 7 MP's in F (against Stich) in Halle
- Muster saved 3 MP's in 1R (against Dewulf) in St. Polten
- Muster saved 4 MP's in SF (against Bruguera) in Stuttgart
- Rios saved 1 MP in QF (against Karbacher) in Amsterdam
- Agassi saved 2 MP's in F (against Krajicek) in New Haven
- Muster saved 3 MP's in F (against C.Costa) in Umag

* Muster won 6 of 12 tournaments in 1995 after saving at least one MP!!! He won also Rome 1990 after saving 3 MP's in the semifinal.

1994
- Ferreira saved 1 MP in 1R (against Zoecke) in Oahu
- Agassi saved 2 MP's in 3R (against Wheaton) & 2 MP's in QF (against Bruguera) in Toronto
- Becker saved 2 MP's in QF (against Braasch) in Los Angeles
- Berasategui saved 1 MP in F (against Corretja) in Palermo

1993
- Courier saved 1 MP in 2R (against Steven) & 1 MP in QF (against Stark) in Memphis
- Stich saved 2 MP's in 2R (against Rosset) in Stuttgart-Indoor
- Bruguera saved 3 MP's in SF (against Muster) in Monte Carlo
- Stich saved 4 MP's in SF (against Morgan) in Queens Club
- Leconte saved 2 MP's in QF (against Reneberg) in Halle
- Pescosolido saved 2 MP's in SF (against Muster) in Tel Aviv
- Ivanisevic saved 1 MP in 2R (against Svensson) in Paris
- Korda saved 5 MP's in SF (against Sampras) in Munich-CGSC
I don't know, it would be interesting to find out. I do know that Davydenko saved match points in two matches to win '04 Moscow. He saved 1 against Youzhny in the SF and 3 against Rusedski in the F. Not sure if anyone else has duplicated that.
it's been done at least several times according to the list ! ;)

jamesblakefan#1
01-14-2009, 02:40 PM
Wow, nice list.

vbranis
01-14-2009, 03:16 PM
Terrific list! I would bet Muster holds the record.

Roddick's done it 5 times, impressive.

And at least 8 times someone saved MP's in two different matches and went on to win the tourney.

halalula1234
01-14-2009, 04:58 PM
serena saved 3 match points twice against sam stosur and caroline wozniaki (wrong spelling) at sydney medibank and won the match,

Moose Malloy
07-05-2009, 05:46 PM
I can come up with 5 events that she won after having been match point down:

2003 AO (Clijsters)
2004 Beijing (Kuznetsova)
2005 AO (Sharapova)
2007 Key Biscayne (Henin)
2008 Bangalore (Venus)


add 2009 Wimbledon to the list.

grafrules
07-05-2009, 05:55 PM
The most impressive thing is doing it 3 times in the semis of a slam. Even though the recent WTA tour has more mental midgets in the top 10 than any other time in history, still extremely impressive.