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miyagi
01-14-2009, 01:05 PM
I thought this was an interesting article..........

Australian Open - Nadal: No pressure on me

Eurosport - Wed, 14 Jan 12:53:00 2009

Rafael Nadal has begun the new year feeling no pressure after a sensational 2008 season.

"I don't feel like I have to defend anything and I start this year from zero again," Nadal said ahead of next week's Australian Open.

"I'm 22 years old and have won five Grand Slams, 12 Master Series titles, an Olympic gold medal and I'm world number one - that keeps me calm.

"Seven years ago if somebody had said to me you will win those titles over your career I would have signed for it immediately."

During the past 12 months, the Spaniard lifted his fourth successive French Open crown, ended Roger Federer's five-year reign as Wimbledon champion, won Olympic gold in Beijing and climbed to the top of the world rankings.

Nadal's dream year came to an abrupt end, however, when he was sidelined with tendinitis in his right knee.

Despite that setback and a slow start to the 2009 season, Nadal is not worried about defending his titles or ranking points.

"I've won the Olympics and at Toronto, Madrid, Montreal and Indian Wells on hard courts. They are all big tournaments and I beat the same people I'm playing in the Slams at these tournaments," said Nadal.

"I will continue to fight, improve and try and get to the final in Australia - and try to win."

While Nadal became the first man since Bjorn Borg in 1980 to complete the Roland Garros-Wimbledon double in the same year, the fact remains that he has never progressed beyond the semi-final of a hardcourt Grand Slam.

Nadal, who lost in the last four at the 2008 Australian and US Opens, said his past successes on hard courts were proof that he could break his duck on Melbourne Park's Plexicushion surface.

Nadal's 2008 will perhaps be best remembered for the match, described by pundits as the greatest ever seen, when he punched a mighty hole through Federer's aura of invincibility by beating his Swiss rival in the longest and most nerve-jangling final at Wimbledon.

The Spaniard survived two rain breaks and an astonishing Federer fightback to claim a sensational 6-4 6-4 6-7 6-7 9-7 victory as dusk fell over the All England Club in early July.

However, it was last June's French Open triumph which was Nadal's sweetest victory of the year. The irrepressible Spaniard enhanced his reputation as arguably the greatest claycourt player when he swept aside Federer with embarrassing ease, dropping only four games.

"All the people talk about Wimbledon but maybe they forget about Roland Garros, which was an amazing tournament for me because I played my best tennis there last year," he said.

"Winning Wimbledon for the first time in such an incredible final against Roger was special - but Roland Garros was very important for me."

His season ended prematurely when he was forced to retire from the Paris Masters in late October with the knee injury, which ruled him out of the Masters Cup and Spain's Davis Cup final victory in Argentina.

"Spain has a very good team whether I am there or not but it was tough to miss the final. At the same time I was happy for the guys and for myself because I played in the quarter- and semi-finals," added Nadal.

Although he said having an injury "is never good", Nadal was glad that he had time to spend with friends in Mallorca, improve his golf and enjoy some fishing during his enforced break.

Despite a slow start to 2009, highlighted by defeats to Andy Murray and Gael Monfils at Abu Dhabi and Doha, Nadal believes it will not be long before he rediscovers his best form.

"I was out of competition for two and a half months, but have trained hard and hope to find my best level as fast as possible. I feel if I find my best tennis I always have a chance to win important tournaments and hopefully that will start in Australia," he said.

With Novak Djokovic and Murray now pushing Nadal and Federer hard, the Spaniard was looking forward to a new golden age in tennis.

"It was great when Pete (Sampras) and (Andre) Agassi were around and for the last few years it's been fun with the rivalry between Roger and me but now there are a few more young guys around, which will make it a very, very interesting season," said Nadal.

The bold part made me smile :D

I think he could do very well especially as all eyes are on the other 3!

veroniquem
01-14-2009, 01:47 PM
My favorite sentence is " I'm 22 years old and have won 5 grand slams, 12 master series titles, an olympic gold medal and I'm world #1- that keeps me calm" :):):) That would surely work vs any pressure that might come up! Who could ever brag of such a resume at 22?

P_Agony
01-14-2009, 01:49 PM
He sounds like such a great guy, so down to earth. Both he and Federer will have trouble though in AO, with Murray and Djokovic as the direct threats and young guys like Simon, Del Potro, Tsonga and Monfils wanting a piece of the pie. It'll be very interesting.

thejoe
01-14-2009, 01:53 PM
I wouldn't put him as a favourite, but I think he has a great shot at the title.

miyagi
01-14-2009, 01:57 PM
He does sound like a great guy.....btw I would put him as 3/4 favourite.....he is definately capable of winning it.....good luck to him.

DarthFed
01-14-2009, 02:14 PM
I agree he definitely has a shot...Tsonga played lights out...if it wasn't for Tsonga he would have had no problems making the final

TheMusicLover
01-14-2009, 02:29 PM
A very nice fellow he is, indeed. I agree with the above posters - he surely has a shot at winning the AO, provided he doesn't run into someone playing lights-out tennis again like last year. That 'someone' might well be Murray if he keeps up his current form...

All-rounder
01-14-2009, 02:36 PM
i think nadal chances of winning this slam get slimmer as these new players aka tsonga type players can catch fire out of nowhere and clean you straight

Emelia21
01-14-2009, 02:45 PM
I like how he says

"I will continue to fight, improve and try to get to the final in Australia - and try to win"

Nice article thankyou

veroniquem
01-14-2009, 02:46 PM
The one positive thing about his chances of winning is that he has improved his results every year so far:
In 2004 he made 3rd round
in 2005 he made 4th round
in 2007 he made quarters (didn't play in 2006 because of a foot problem)
in 2008 he made semis
If the logic continues, 2009 should be final or win!!

TheMusicLover
01-14-2009, 02:50 PM
i think nadal chances of winning this slam get slimmer as these new players aka tsonga type players can catch fire out of nowhere and clean you straight

Yep - and it looks like there are a lot of them around right now who might not score high on 'consistency' but surely have what it takes to bring down Rafa (and as we've seen the past couple of months - almost everyone else, too!), when they are in good form. Tsonga is of course a good example, but so are Gulbis, Simon, Del Potro, Nalbandian... perhaps even Hewitt, it looks like he's playing well right now.

miyagi
01-14-2009, 02:51 PM
Nadal will just have to suck it up if he wants to win on HC.....he should be prepared to find a way to win!!

I dont expect ANYONE to blow him off the court again like Tsonga did he should have learnt from it....

veroniquem
01-14-2009, 03:17 PM
Yep - and it looks like there are a lot of them around right now who might not score high on 'consistency' but surely have what it takes to bring down Rafa (and as we've seen the past couple of months - almost everyone else, too!), when they are in good form. Tsonga is of course a good example, but so are Gulbis, Simon, Del Potro, Nalbandian... perhaps even Hewitt, it looks like he's playing well right now.
Yes lots of players are dangerous for Nadal. This being said Nadal is 3-0 vs Del Potro and 2-0 vs Gulbis. He's 2-1 vs Simon and 2-1 vs Tsonga, so things don't look completely hopeless for him either...

TheMusicLover
01-14-2009, 03:43 PM
Yes lots of players are dangerous for Nadal. This being said Nadal is 3-0 vs Del Potro and 2-0 vs Gulbis. He's 2-1 vs Simon and 2-1 vs Tsonga, so things don't look completely hopeless for him either...

I don't think things are 'hopeless' for him at all... it's just that he's had so many times when he had the bad luck of running into an 'on fire'-playing 'minor' player. I well remember Youhzny and Ferrer at the USO in 2006 and 2007, just to name two examples, and these players (sorry, no insult meant to them at all) just don't have the qualities of one Djokovic or Murray, not even to mention Federer. And now we have the guys I already mentioned, who could well be capable of 'pulling the trigger' just the same.

That said, I realize that there a lot of people underrating Nadal's capacities on HC. Somehow, the past decade of total domination on HC by Sampras and Federer seem to have made people think that any #1 player should be as dominant as them - but they were the exceptions, not the rule, setting the expectations set on any follow-up #1 to an almost incredible level.

Rafa isn't at all as 'bad' on HC as many make him out to be. He might not be a HC-WONDER, as people rightly say, but he's a more-than-decent player on the surface, having managed semis in HC-slams, and getting to finals and even winning titles on HC in Masters, among other tournaments. Didn't he also win the Olympic Gold Medal with ease? Was on HC, if I remember well... ;)

Rafa is a much better player on HC than Sampras ever was on clay, just to mention one thing. He has a good shot for the title at the AO, I'm pretty sure of that. No wonder Fed himself said that he's a good contender for the title as well, just like Murray and Djoko... :)

zagor
01-14-2009, 03:45 PM
Nice interview but the truth is that there's always pressure when you're number one in the world.However while I do think that Nadal prefers the role of the underdog than being the favourite,he has proven countless times that he handles pressure amazingly well.

DarthFed
01-14-2009, 04:02 PM
Nadal on clay is ridiculous...wasn't he like on an 81 match winning streak?

its impressive that two men held dominant records on all 3 surfaces

i believe Fed holds the record for 65 grass, and 56 HC wins and Nadal holds clay....these most likely wont be broken for a while

Morrissey
01-14-2009, 05:43 PM
I agree, the real pressure will come during the clay and grass season. But heŽs so good on both surfaces I doubt heŽll see it as pressure.

Morrissey
01-14-2009, 05:48 PM
i think nadal chances of winning this slam get slimmer as these new players aka tsonga type players can catch fire out of nowhere and clean you straight

Every year it gets slimmer for everyone. Tsonga type players? Name me other new players (or any) who play like Tsonga. I wouldnŽt put money on him making the final again.

saram
01-14-2009, 10:40 PM
This is a good article. And, I think Rafa is one of the few blokes on tour that actually speaks his mind and ignores lip-service and what 'one should say'...he speaks from his heart.

ericsson
01-15-2009, 12:44 AM
For me one thing is clear, if he loses it's not because of pressure or nervs, never saw anyone so brutal on the court, no fear what so ever, that's the part i like the most on Rafa, what he did at Wimbledon last year really, that really blew my socks off...Roger is the better player technical wise but Rafa is the gladiator!

thejoe
01-15-2009, 09:11 AM
This is a good article. And, I think Rafa is one of the few blokes on tour that actually speaks his mind and ignores lip-service and what 'one should say'...he speaks from his heart.

What? All of what he says is to keep the press sweet. He never says anything outlandish, which is partly why he is so popular. Are you talking about the same player?

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 09:42 AM
What? All of what he says is to keep the press sweet. He never says anything outlandish, which is partly why he is so popular. Are you talking about the same player?
He's popular because he's nice with other players, with the press and with people in general. He's just a nice guy :) (you make it sound like it's some kind of machiavelism, lol)

thejoe
01-15-2009, 09:47 AM
He's popular because he's nice with other players, with the press and with people in general. He's just a nice guy :) (you make it sound like it's some kind of machiavelism, lol)

I pointed that out in the other thread. I agree, he seems like the nicest guy you would ever want to meet, but to say he speaks his mind in an outlandish way is a bit silly. :)

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 09:58 AM
I pointed that out in the other thread. I agree, he seems like the nicest guy you would ever want to meet, but to say he speaks his mind in an outlandish way is a bit silly. :)
You're the one who used the adjective "outlandish", what saram said is he speaks his mind and he speaks from the heart. That just means he says what he thinks and he is sincere, that seems a reasonable statement to me.

thejoe
01-15-2009, 10:01 AM
You're the one who used the adjective "outlandish", what saram said is he speaks his mind and he speaks from the heart. That just means he says what he thinks and he is sincere, that seems a reasonable statement to me.

He implied outlandish, by going against the book, and what he "should say." He is too nice to say anything bad. I'm not insulting anyone, in fact I'm complimenting Rafa.

I think he says everything he "should say." The response to Djokovic's comments at Roland Garros 2006 spring to mind.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 10:05 AM
He implied outlandish, by going against the book, and what he "should say." He is too nice to say anything bad. I'm not insulting anyone, in fact I'm complimenting Rafa.

I think he says everything he "should say." The response to Djokovic's comments at Roland Garros 2006 spring to mind.
I agree that Rafa is tactful. He never tries to provoke anybody, the only guy he is harsh on (I mean among players) is himself! On the other hand he was extremely direct and outspoken about Munoz and he will defend himself if attacked (and give straightforward answers to the press), so he's certainly not a sycophant either.

veritech
01-15-2009, 10:09 AM
I agree that Rafa is tactful. He never tries to provoke anybody, the only guy he is harsh on (I mean among players) is himself! On the other hand he was extremely direct and outspoken about Munoz and he will defend himself if attacked (and give straightforward answers to the press), so he's certainly not a sycophant either.

tactful or just simply playing coy... who knows...

danb
01-15-2009, 10:10 AM
I think there is actually quite a bit of pressure on him to prove himself on hard courts in a GS. His style might wear his body down so he's got to prove himself sooner rather than later... Anyway - he is a fine guy. I like all 4 of them Fed, Nadal, Joker and Murray. Can't wait for the OZ Open

DoubleDeuce
01-15-2009, 10:24 AM
For many he is considered the favorite, Fed is one:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/federer-tips-nadal-to-win-australian-open/82856-5.html

miyagi
01-15-2009, 10:31 AM
I dont think there is much pressure on Nadal most people dont think he can win on HC....he only has the pressure of being #1

I used to think Nadal always lied on camera and said what was politically correct but now I get the feeling he is just genuinely nice (unlike me) lol

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 10:35 AM
tactful or just simply playing coy... who knows...
Nadal is not coy. I guess you didn't follow the controversy with Munoz, otherwise you would know how not coy he is!

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 10:42 AM
I dont think there is much pressure on Nadal most people dont think he can win on HC....he only has the pressure of being #1

I used to think Nadal always lied on camera and said what was politically correct but now I get the feeling he is just genuinely nice (unlike me) lol
Here goes, Nadal's flaws are he's always late, he's untidy (his mom says it , you have to believe moms on that), he has some nervous tics he cannot control (pulling the pants), he can go overboard with the complaining and is not easy to deal with when he's in a bad mood (mom's words again). Other than that he's quite perfect :)

GameSampras
01-15-2009, 10:51 AM
IS it just me or do u think Nadal plays better as the player climbing the mountain as #2 and looking to overtake number 1 as he does as the Number 1 player in the world? I know Nadal reached Number 1 during the time of the season when he wouldnt have much success as he does during Clay and Grass season but it does to me he had more of that "edge" when he was hungry and breathing down Roger's neck. It can be lonely at the top and there is alot of pressure especially today as the world's #1.

edmondsm
01-15-2009, 10:55 AM
There is always pressure on the #1 seed at a slam. It will be especially heavy on Nadal's shoulders because I think there are many players out there that believe they can beat him on hardcourts. They will be chomping at the bit, just like Monfils in Doha, to take out the world #1.

TennezSport
01-15-2009, 10:56 AM
I think there is actually quite a bit of pressure on him to prove himself on hard courts in a GS. His style might wear his body down so he's got to prove himself sooner rather than later... Anyway - he is a fine guy. I like all 4 of them Fed, Nadal, Joker and Murray. Can't wait for the OZ Open

Absolutely, anyone who has the number one position has a target on his back and they know it. This press quote was just just that, a statement to attempt to ease tension. What is he supposed to say, "Oh yeah, I am shaking in my boots to hold on to #1"; I think not. :roll:

Good new for Rafa is that he loves a challenge and has just as good of a chance at the title as anyone else, as long as his knees hold out. There are a lot of players out there that know if we stay with him we may cause a tire to blow on HC. This AO will be very interesting indeed.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 10:57 AM
IS it just me or do u think Nadal plays better as the player climbing the mountain as #2 and looking to overtake number 1 as he does as the Number 1 player in the world? I know Nadal reached Number 1 during the time of the season when he wouldnt have much success as he does during Clay and Grass season but it does to me he had more of that "edge" when he was hungry and breathing down Roger's neck. It can be lonely at the top and there is alot of pressure especially today as the world's #1.
Too early to tell, Nadal is never in good shape at the end of the season and starts slowly at the beginning. We have to wait a little longer to make that kind of observation. All we can say is that he had his best result at USO (so far) and a (slightly) better result in Madrid this year than last year. After that he had a break due to injury and he has only played 1 tournament in 2009! My personal impression is that his ranking won't affect his mentality at all. Nadal has always been strong in the mental department.

miyagi
01-15-2009, 10:59 AM
IS it just me or do u think Nadal plays better as the player climbing the mountain as #2 and looking to overtake number 1 as he does as the Number 1 player in the world? I know Nadal reached Number 1 during the time of the season when he wouldnt have much success as he does during Clay and Grass season but it does to me he had more of that "edge" when he was hungry and breathing down Roger's neck. It can be lonely at the top and there is alot of pressure especially today as the world's #1.

Wouldn't you need a few more matches to be in a postion to judge that?

Lets see what he does this year and to be honest I dont think that is fair to say that yet?

He's played one tournament in 09! LOL

seffina
01-15-2009, 11:40 AM
It's okay if Rafa doesn't feel any pressure, I'll feel all the pressure for him. I desperately want him to win the AO this year. Go ahead, Rafa, play pressure free. I'll take one for the team.

danb
01-15-2009, 01:13 PM
It's okay if Rafa doesn't feel any pressure, I'll feel all the pressure for him. I desperately want him to win the AO this year. Go ahead, Rafa, play pressure free. I'll take one for the team.

My favorites:

1. Nadal and Murray
2. Fed , Joker and Tsonga

Make no mistake - there is pressure on all these guys - they just learned to live with it. IMHO Nadal is actually saying something like "I learned how to deal with the pressure".

edmondsm
01-15-2009, 02:18 PM
My favorites:

1. Nadal and Murray
2. Fed , Joker and Tsonga

Make no mistake - there is pressure on all these guys - they just learned to live with it. IMHO Nadal is actually saying something like "I learned how to deal with the pressure".

I wouldn't have put Tsonga in the same league as Fed and Djokovic going into the AO, but now that he is having back issues I really doubt that he will go deep in Melbourne.

thejoe
01-15-2009, 02:36 PM
Nadal having as good a chance as Murray at a hardcourt slam? I don't think so.

Mansewerz
01-15-2009, 02:46 PM
The one positive thing about his chances of winning is that he has improved his results every year so far:
In 2004 he made 3rd round
in 2005 he made 4th round
in 2007 he made quarters (didn't play in 2006 because of a foot problem)
in 2008 he made semis
If the logic continues, 2009 should be final or win!!

By that logic, Federer should have won RG already.


Didn't happen though. The beauty of tennis, you won't know what will happen.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 02:50 PM
By that logic, Federer should have won RG already.


Didn't happen though. The beauty of tennis, you won't know what will happen.
For Federer at RG there was no progression at all, it was:
final + brickwall
(rinse and repeat as many times as needed :twisted:)

danb
01-15-2009, 03:21 PM
Nadal having as good a chance as Murray at a hardcourt slam? I don't think so.

I should have said - my preferred player to win would be

1) Nadal and Murray
2) Tsonga, Joker, Fed

edberg505
01-15-2009, 03:23 PM
For Federer at RG there was no progression at all, it was:
final + brickwall
(rinse and repeat as many times as needed :twisted:)

Boy you really hate the guy don't you. Did Federer steal your lunch money or something?

veritech
01-15-2009, 03:49 PM
The one positive thing about his chances of winning is that he has improved his results every year so far:
In 2004 he made 3rd round
in 2005 he made 4th round
in 2007 he made quarters (didn't play in 2006 because of a foot problem)
in 2008 he made semis
If the logic continues, 2009 should be final or win!!

with that logic, he shouldn't play in 2009 because of a foot problem.

*knocks on wood*

miyagi
01-15-2009, 04:20 PM
Nadal having as good a chance as Murray at a hardcourt slam? I don't think so.

Hmmmm? I disagree with this.....Murray may be more talented on HC but Nadal is WAY more determined.

Determination>talent imo

Anyway we shall see :D

thejoe
01-16-2009, 05:50 AM
Hmmmm? I disagree with this.....Murray may be more talented on HC but Nadal is WAY more determined.

Determination>talent imo

Anyway we shall see :D

We shall see. I'm not ruling him out, but he isn't as good on hardcourts. This isn't clay, having the determination to run down balls will only take you so far.

vtmike
01-16-2009, 07:41 AM
The number 1 ranked player is ranked below the 4th ranked player as a favourite to win the AO, and Nadal says that he is not under pressure??? :grin: gimme a break!

His interviews are always sugar coated to the point that they sound fake.....I'm not saying hes a bad guy (before some freaks start attacking me), but he obviously is trying to build a false image infront of the media....some people like that and some don't....I certainly like a player who is honest and does not try to be overly sweet and fake....

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 07:49 AM
Boy you really hate the guy don't you. Did Federer steal your lunch money or something?
Not at all, I was answering a guy about Fed's progression at FO. I thought my post was humorous actually, it's also accurate what can I do? I can't change reality, can I? I can only describe it as it is!

shintan17
01-16-2009, 07:59 AM
I think for him to call it a successful season this year, he just has to defend the title at the RG. I don't think he has as much pressure as he did last year where he still didn't know he would ever win the Wimbledon and the gold medal. No one really expects him to actually "WIN" the hard court slams yet as he has never reached the final before, so if he breaks that trend and reaches the final, it will be a big improvement for him.

That being said, if he wants to stay at no.1, he "NEEDS" to put pressure on himself and perform at the highest level that he can. That's the only chance. Fed did it for over 4 years span and that was truly an amazing achievement for him.

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 08:00 AM
The number 1 ranked player is ranked below the 4th ranked player as a favourite to win the AO, and Nadal says that he is not under pressure??? :grin: gimme a break!

His interviews are always sugar coated to the point that they sound fake.....I'm not saying hes a bad guy (before some freaks start attacking me), but he obviously is trying to build a false image infront of the media....some people like that and some don't....I certainly like a player who is honest and does not try to be overly sweet and fake....
"sugar coated"? I have no idea what you mean. Nadal is #1 but hard court is not his best surface: Nadal knows it, I know it and I'm sure you know it. If Nadal said he was the #1 favorite at AO (or should be) he would be an *** (which you would love for him to be but which he is not unfortunately for you). It's precisely because hard court is his least favorite surface that he has less pressure there than at FO for instance where he will be expected to win. I don't see any indication that Nadal is being dishonest in this interview.

thejoe
01-16-2009, 08:13 AM
"sugar coated"? I have no idea what you mean. Nadal is #1 but hard court is not his best surface: Nadal knows it, I know it and I'm sure you know it. If Nadal said he was the #1 favorite at AO (or should be) he would be an *** (which you would love for him to be but which he is not unfortunately for you). It's precisely because hard court is his least favorite surface that he has less pressure there than at FO for instance where he will be expected to win. I don't see any indication that Nadal is being dishonest in this interview.

"Sugar Coated" refers to the fact that his interviews often contain a lot of inane, harmless comments, either talking himself down, or talking up his opponent.

rommil
01-16-2009, 08:22 AM
Nadal might not be feeling the pressure. His knees are.

danb
01-16-2009, 09:49 AM
Nadal might not be feeling the pressure. His knees are.

You might be right. He has to prove sooner rather than later - his body might not be able to take many years of tennis. But in the end who really knows?
I was expecting last year to see an injured Nadal - instead he owned Federer. Hard to say but there is always pressure on the top players.

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 10:58 AM
"Sugar Coated" refers to the fact that his interviews often contain a lot of inane, harmless comments, either talking himself down, or talking up his opponent.
Talking yourself down has nothing to do with "sugar coated". You just let the others do the complimenting, instead of indulging in self-satisfaction. I like that, tough love should start with oneself especially in an ultra competitive environment.

veritech
01-16-2009, 11:01 AM
Talking yourself down has nothing to do with "sugar coated". You just let the others do the complimenting, instead of indulging in self-satisfaction. I like that, tough love should start with oneself especially in an ultra competitive environment.

in other words, playing coy is very rewarding.

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 11:02 AM
in other words, playing coy is very rewarding.
I still don't know what you mean, give me 1 precise example because I don't see anything coy in this interview.

veritech
01-16-2009, 11:06 AM
I still don't know what you mean, give me 1 precise example because I don't see anything coy in this interview.

he could be putting up a front, not revealing his true self to preserve his image. who knows, maybe he's a dick in real life, no? after all, just like many tennis fans, the only words we hear from him are from press conferences.

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 11:09 AM
he could be putting up a front, not revealing his true self to preserve his image. who knows, maybe he's a dick in real life, no? after all, just like many tennis fans, the only words we hear from him are from press conferences.
What front? What true self? as I said give me an example of something Nadal said that you find coy because I can' see anything (and don't bother to come back with generalities)

veritech
01-16-2009, 11:40 AM
What front? What true self? as I said give me an example of something Nadal said that you find coy because I can' see anything (and don't bother to come back with generalities)

calling fed an egoistic megalomaniac, among other things, simply by just hearing what he says in press conferences, would justify saying nadal is playing coy by simply kissing *** all the time in his interviews. i don't need examples, he kisses *** all the time, just search it. who knows, maybe he's acting like that to gain popularity for more money. maybe he's an asshat in real life.

point is that we don't know the players well enough to make such brash conclusions as this:

He just can't stand not being the favorite. Federer's sense of entitlement can be disturbing at times. It was the same at Wimbledon, he should have welcomed Nadal becoming a favorite as it was taking some pressure off his shoulders. Instead of that he was offended that people would consider other favorites than him. I'm telling you the guy has some unresolved narcissistic issues...

I'm glad our current #1 acts like a decent human being instead. Egotistic megalomaniacs are not my cup of tea...

That's exactly the point. The "I'm happy that I've got an olympic gold" should be "I'm happy that we've got an olympic gold". Not that you'll ever agree to that as you're as fanatic as Federer is self-centered.

i don't think nadal's an *******. and it wouldn't be right to call him one. but like i said, we don't know jack.

miyagi
01-16-2009, 12:00 PM
in other words, playing coy is very rewarding.

It used to annoy me when I heard Rafa's interviews and he was always talking up Roger....I was waiting for the REAL Rafa to jump out and say " I hate, I hate you Roger and your pansie cardigans and I'm going to kick your *** with my super duper leftie bicep, no?"

But he didn't and my imagination returned back to normal!

LOL...:shock:

But now I'm resigned to think he is just that nice a guy....boooo Rafa boooo LOL

Zaragoza
01-16-2009, 02:44 PM
The number 1 ranked player is ranked below the 4th ranked player as a favourite to win the AO, and Nadal says that he is not under pressure??? :grin: gimme a break!

His interviews are always sugar coated to the point that they sound fake.....I'm not saying hes a bad guy (before some freaks start attacking me), but he obviously is trying to build a false image infront of the media....some people like that and some don't....I certainly like a player who is honest and does not try to be overly sweet and fake....

Well the number 4 is ranked above everyone in most of the betting sites, even though Federer's chances to win have increased after the draw according to bookmakers. Nadal is considered the 3rd favourite to win and I agree with that.
As for Nadal being fake, well I've read the same stuff from him despite losing or winning and I have listened/read many interviews in his native language where he shows he's an articulate, humble and mature person.
If someone is only nice when he wins you have a better reason to think he's faking, that's not the case with Nadal.

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 04:16 PM
calling fed an egoistic megalomaniac, among other things, simply by just hearing what he says in press conferences, would justify saying nadal is playing coy by simply kissing *** all the time in his interviews. i don't need examples, he kisses *** all the time, just search it. who knows, maybe he's acting like that to gain popularity for more money. maybe he's an asshat in real life.

point is that we don't know the players well enough to make such brash conclusions as this:







i don't think nadal's an *******. and it wouldn't be right to call him one. but like i said, we don't know jack.
I'm not searching it, if you can't prove your point, then you don't have one, which is what I suspected from the start, I'm glad this discussion is closed.

veritech
01-16-2009, 05:09 PM
I'm not searching it, if you can't prove your point, then you don't have one, which is what I suspected from the start, I'm glad this discussion is closed.

i don't need any examples to prove my point. i'll repost my point.

point is that we don't know the players well enough to make such brash conclusions as this:

He just can't stand not being the favorite. Federer's sense of entitlement can be disturbing at times. It was the same at Wimbledon, he should have welcomed Nadal becoming a favorite as it was taking some pressure off his shoulders. Instead of that he was offended that people would consider other favorites than him. I'm telling you the guy has some unresolved narcissistic issues...

I'm glad our current #1 acts like a decent human being instead. Egotistic megalomaniacs are not my cup of tea...

That's exactly the point. The "I'm happy that I've got an olympic gold" should be "I'm happy that we've got an olympic gold". Not that you'll ever agree to that as you're as fanatic as Federer is self-centered.

if you can call roger all those things, that i can call rafa two-faced.
do you know roger well enough to call him those names? no. now the case is closed, hater.

now let's get back into the discussion.

All-rounder
01-16-2009, 06:14 PM
Every year it gets slimmer for everyone. Tsonga type players? Name me other new players (or any) who play like Tsonga. I wouldnŽt put money on him making the final again.
okay not tsonga type in specific to game style but as in to wild cards or players that are not in the top 10 or 20
2006-bagdatis
2007-gonzalez
2008-tsonga
all of these players were in the final but the following year they couldn't make it out the 2nd or 3rd round...well the exception of tsonga as 2009 aussie hasn't begun yet but what im saying is that in todays game there are more players that can cause shock exits simon, del potro, gulbis imagine if they find there stoke on a good day who knows what can happen

TheMusicLover
01-16-2009, 07:30 PM
It used to annoy me when I heard Rafa's interviews and he was always talking up Roger....I was waiting for the REAL Rafa to jump out and say " I hate, I hate you Roger and your pansie cardigans and I'm going to kick your *** with my super duper leftie bicep, no?"

But he didn't and my imagination returned back to normal!

LOL...:shock:

But now I'm resigned to think he is just that nice a guy....boooo Rafa boooo LOL

Might it be that he just MEANS what he says? ;)
I know a lot of his hard-core fans don't like it when he acknowledges Roger to be one of his fav players of all time, but tell me - is the guy really THAT far off when saying so?
I don't think so. ;)

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 07:33 PM
i don't need any examples to prove my point. i'll repost my point.



if you can call roger all those things, that i can call rafa two-faced.
do you know roger well enough to call him those names? no. now the case is closed, hater.

now let's get back into the discussion.
Once again, you can call Rafa anything you want, as long as your claims are unsubstantiated it really doesn't matter...

veroniquem
01-16-2009, 07:44 PM
Might it be that he just MEANS what he says? ;)
I know a lot of his hard-core fans don't like it when he acknowledges Roger to be one of his fav players of all time, but tell me - is the guy really THAT far off when saying so?
I don't think so. ;)
I'm sure he means what he says. If he had any kind of hostility toward Roger, we would be able to tell, he would betray himself one way or another. He genuinely respects Fed. What I like is it doesn't give him any inhibition about beating the living hell out of him if he gets a chance :). I think Rafa loves competing, it's not about the opponent, it's how much he relishes the fighting.

miyagi
01-17-2009, 03:55 AM
Might it be that he just MEANS what he says? ;)
I know a lot of his hard-core fans don't like it when he acknowledges Roger to be one of his fav players of all time, but tell me - is the guy really THAT far off when saying so?
I don't think so. ;)

LOL I was only joking.....Roger is THE man...not my type of person but it can't be denied he is a Great player and has DEFINATELY bought out the best in Rafa

TheTruth
01-17-2009, 02:13 PM
Well the number 4 is ranked above everyone in most of the betting sites, even though Federer's chances to win have increased after the draw according to bookmakers. Nadal is considered the 3rd favourite to win and I agree with that.
As for Nadal being fake, well I've read the same stuff from him despite losing or winning and I have listened/read many interviews in his native language where he shows he's an articulate, humble and mature person.
If someone is only nice when he wins you have a better reason to think he's faking, that's not the case with Nadal.

Good point. Rafa speaks from the heart and tells the truth. Boring to some. Admirable to many.

dh003i
01-17-2009, 02:26 PM
Rafa is a much better player on HC than Sampras ever was on clay, just to mention one thing. He has a good shot for the title at the AO, I'm pretty sure of that. No wonder Fed himself said that he's a good contender for the title as well, just like Murray and Djoko... :)

I think I would have to agree with that. But Sampras wasn't an awful clay-court player. He was quite good; not by virtue of playing "great clay-court tennis", but just by being so good at his game that he could impose it on his opponents even on clay, to a degree.

Lotto
01-17-2009, 02:48 PM
He's a class act I must admit that. I'm a huge Federer fan and don't particularly like Nadal but that's because of h2h domination of Roger and his gamestyle. But you have to admit he is a well brought up, classy guy. When it comes to class Roger and Rafa are heads and tails above the arrogant Djoker and Murray.

I would LOVE to see Roger-Rafa Aussie Open final. It would be class!! Allez Roger.