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Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:00 PM
http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/interactive/radio/index.html

Click on AO Radio. They just started with the women's draw.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm not paying too much attention to the women's draw but I think Jankovic, Ivanovic and Safina are on the top half. The Williams are on the bottom half.

Feņa14
01-15-2009, 03:22 PM
Dragging it out a bit, aren't they? :shock:

I think they've talked about EVERY single first round match on the womens side.

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:24 PM
I just started hearing it as well. Missed most of the women's draw, but ready for the guys.

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:30 PM
Get to it already.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:33 PM
Murray is on Nadal's half. Djokovic goes to Federer's half!
Hewitt could play Nadal in 4th round.

marc45
01-15-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm not paying too much attention to the women's draw but I think Jankovic, Ivanovic and Safina are on the top half. The Williams are on the bottom half.
semis or quarters for the williams?

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:34 PM
QF would be Nadal-Simon/Monfils.

Alexio92
01-15-2009, 03:34 PM
monfis vs blake

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:35 PM
semis or quarters for the williams?

semis......

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 03:35 PM
Bummer for Nadal. I think Djokovic would have been the better match up in this case, but I think he got a decent quarter. Hewitt in the fourth shouldn't be a problem for him, if they both even get there.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Gasquet-Hewitt 3rd round, the winner would play Nadal.

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Tsonga is in, it seems.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:37 PM
I think Federer-Safin would play in 3rd round, nice match!

marc45
01-15-2009, 03:39 PM
Murray is on Nadal's half. Djokovic goes to Federer's half!
Hewitt could play Nadal in 4th round.
good news for fed, tough match against rafa could sap andy...if it is roger and novak we'll see if a year past mono he restores order against novak down under.....course he already did it at flushing...novak better give a better effort than he did there if they meet again in melbourne

marc45
01-15-2009, 03:40 PM
semis......thank you z

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:41 PM
Roger enjoys playing Safin as well.

danb
01-15-2009, 03:41 PM
CRAP! I wanted Fed-Murray and Nadal-Joker in semis. I must protest! :)
Fed was spared another beating from Murray...

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:42 PM
I think Nadal starts against C.Rochus and could play Haas in 2nd or 3rd round.

NamRanger
01-15-2009, 03:42 PM
Roger enjoys playing Safin as well.


Unless Safin turns it on, then it's not so fun.

edberg505
01-15-2009, 03:43 PM
I think Nadal starts against C.Rochus and could play Haas in 2nd or 3rd round.

Holy cow, Haas is still playing? Good to see him hanging in there, maybe he can make a run.

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 03:43 PM
I think Federer-Safin would play in 3rd round, nice match!

Let's just hope Safin plays well if this happens.

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:44 PM
Rafa's Quarter
Haas
Gasquet
Lleyton
Gonzales
Guccioni
Simon

I missed quite a few

S H O W S T O P P E R !
01-15-2009, 03:44 PM
These are the current seedings (some may be wrong, I'm working under background noise: )

1. Nadal
2 Federer
3 Djokovic
4 Murray
5 Tsonga (doubtful?)
6 Simon
7 Roddick
8 Del Potro
9 Blake
10 Nalbandian
11 Ferrer
12 Monfils
13 Gonzales
14 Verdasco
15 Warinka
16 Soderling
17 Almargo
18 Andrev
19 Cilic (?)
20 Berdych
21 Robredo
22 Stephanek
23 Fish
24 Gasquet
25 Karlovic
26 Safin
27 F. Lopez
28 Mathieu
29 Turnisov
30 Schuttler
31 Melzer
32 Kohlschreiber

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:45 PM
Tsonga (if he plays), Blake, Verdasco and Nishikori are on Murray's quarter.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:46 PM
Djokovic-Roddick would play in the QF right? Then the winner would play Federer in the semis.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:48 PM
Federer's quarter: Seppi, Moya, Safin.

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:48 PM
Federer's Quarter
Seppi
Moya
Safin
Berdych
Wawrinka
Ferrer
Tipsy
Cilic
Del Potro

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:49 PM
Hewitt-Gonzalez 1st round.

l_gonzalez
01-15-2009, 03:49 PM
Hewitt - Gonzalez is the pick of the 1st round matches!

zagor
01-15-2009, 03:51 PM
Some really interesting early rounds match-ups.

marc45
01-15-2009, 03:52 PM
when are they gonna put these on the site?... not simultaneously as the broadcast i guess

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:52 PM
I don't think it'll be out until tomorrow?

Alexio92
01-15-2009, 03:52 PM
Federer's Quarter
Seppi
Moya
Safin
Berdych
Wawrinka
Ferrer
Tipsy
Cilic
Del Potro

Del Potro will progress out of that quarter I have a feeling for some reason :)

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
01-15-2009, 03:53 PM
I think he said that they want to plant the Quailifiers and the put it up or around 7 pm australian time. :confused:

marc45
01-15-2009, 03:54 PM
I don't think it'll be out until tomorrow?

but it is tomorrow down under! i want my draw!:)

illkhiboy
01-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Some really interesting early rounds match-ups.

Really? Like what? The first 4.5 days are probably all I 'll get to watch this time :cry:

marc45
01-15-2009, 03:55 PM
I think he said that they want to plant the Quailifier and the put it up or around 7 pm australlian time. :confused:
great, 3 in the morning for me:(

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:55 PM
Murray-Pavel in 1st round. I thought Pavel had retired.

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
01-15-2009, 03:55 PM
Really? Like what? The first 4.5 days are probably all I 'll get to watch this time :cry:

Gonzo/Hewitt is the only one so far, by ear maybe.

zagor
01-15-2009, 03:57 PM
CRAP! I wanted Fed-Murray and Nadal-Joker in semis. I must protest! :)
Fed was spared another beating from Murray...

Yeah,like the one he received in USO final :).

Really? Like what? The first 4.5 days are probably all I 'll get to watch this time :cry:

Well Gonzo-Hewitt and potentially Fed-Safin,Nadal-Haas might be interesting as well.Also potentially Gasquet-Hewitt in 3d round.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 03:57 PM
Roddick:2nd round Llodra, 3rd round Kohlschreiber/Querrey/Ferrero, 4th round Nalbandian, QF Djokovic, SF Federer.

seffina
01-15-2009, 03:58 PM
So Federer/Seppi again?

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
01-15-2009, 03:59 PM
great, 3 in the morning for me:(

It's up now.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/draws/ms/index.html

marc45
01-15-2009, 04:02 PM
thanks!.....

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 04:03 PM
The first real test for Nadal should be the 3rd round: Tursunov/Haas/Schwank. 4th round: Hewitt/Gasquet/Gonzalez. QF: Monfils/Simon. SF: Murray/Tsonga.
I can't say I'm happy but it could have been worse.

seffina
01-15-2009, 04:04 PM
I'm sad Simon, Rafa, and Gasquet are in the same draw.

seffina
01-15-2009, 04:05 PM
The first real test for Nadal should be the 3rd round: Tursunov/Haas/Schwank. 4th round: Hewitt/Gasquet/Gonzalez. QF: Monfils/Simon. SF: Murray/Tsonga.
I can't say I'm happy but it could have been worse.
Yeah, it's not the easiest draw, but I don't think it's too bad. Just the lack of qualifiers.

Alexio92
01-15-2009, 04:07 PM
Oscar Hernandez ESP
v
Janko Tipsarevic SRB

Match up of the first round :D

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 04:09 PM
I think Murray and Djokovic have better draws than Federer and Nadal. I don't see anyone stopping them before the QF. Then Murray-Tsonga and Djokovic-Roddick could be nice matches.

babbette
01-15-2009, 04:09 PM
BULLOCKS!!:cry: Walk in the park draw for Roger and tough draw for Rafa. Rafa needs to literally be at his best each match or no Ao this year:(

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 04:10 PM
Here it comes...the tough draw talk.

Mansewerz
01-15-2009, 04:12 PM
Unless Safin turns it on, then it's not so fun.

My exact words. These guys never like playing each other (well, Federer does when Safin's not on). When they're both on, great tennis ensues.

marc45
01-15-2009, 04:12 PM
fed's got to be really, really happy, unless one subscribes to the theory that he should want a tougher draw before the semis....del potro or cilic will be gone before the quarters....but not great movers to begin with...and a lot of usual suspects for fed to beat up on before joker...probably best for marat to play him early but can he really move well enough, let alone Try well enough to trouble roger?...gotta believe avoiding a simon-murray quarter-semi does him good...no nalby either

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:13 PM
Here it comes...the tough draw talk.

Look at my signature,all is explained.

marc45
01-15-2009, 04:16 PM
Here it comes...the tough draw talk.
it does factor in...not the end all be all, but the game is about match-ups to a good degree and this is a good draw for fed...it's good for rafa that he won't play murray and tsonga....roddick's got lots of work in front of him...he hopes at least

babbette
01-15-2009, 04:17 PM
Here it comes...the tough draw talk.


you're right.

Rafa:
Haas
Gasquet
Lleyton
Gonzales
Simon
Murray
Monfils
Tsonga

Federer
Seppi-who?
Moya-ageing
Safin-past his best
Berdych-hasn't proven himself in slams
Wawrinka-bla
Ferrer-good player but really any danger?
Tipsy-hmmm
Cilic-hmm
Del Potro-bla

marc45
01-15-2009, 04:20 PM
watch out for gulbis...blake in the third and possibly injured tsonga (or not) in fourth..he could get to murray in the quarter...murray could feel the pressure of an up and comer behind him before getting to the semis and maybe rafa

thefan
01-15-2009, 04:20 PM
Gonzo vs. Hewitt 1st round

veritech
01-15-2009, 04:20 PM
you're right.

Rafa:
Haas
Gasquet
Lleyton
Gonzales
Simon
Murray
Monfils
Tsonga

Federer
Seppi-who?
Moya-ageing
Safin-past his best
Berdych-hasn't proven himself in slams
Wawrinka-bla
Ferrer-good player but really any danger?
Tipsy-hmmm
Cilic-hmm
Del Potro-bla

don't forget djokovic. you know, anyone could do the same and portray nadal's draw as a bunch of little girls. it's easy, really.

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 04:21 PM
I'm sad Simon, Rafa, and Gasquet are in the same draw.If it makes you feel better, the two Frenchmen might not stay in that long... :)

The first real test for Nadal should be the 3rd round: Tursunov/Haas/Schwank. 4th round: Hewitt/Gasquet/Gonzalez. QF: Monfils/Simon. SF: Murray/Tsonga.
I can't say I'm happy but it could have been worse.Were you hoping he'd get qualifiers, Aussie Juniors, and lucky losers until the quarters? Other than Haas, who could possibly have an amazing match or two or three left in him, his road to the quarter is pretty clear.

BULLOCKS!!:cry: Walk in the park draw for Roger and tough draw for Rafa. Rafa needs to literally be at his best each match or no Ao this year:(Drink that kool-aid! The 'Fed gets the easy draws' conspiracy theory lives!

xtennisloverx
01-15-2009, 04:24 PM
rematch of roddick-kohlschreiber in the 3rd round? :)

DTLshot
01-15-2009, 04:27 PM
Any one care give a link?

Couldn't find the draw from AO Official site.:(

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 04:27 PM
Are there any Bracket Challenge contests out there? I didn't see one on ATPTennis.com (the majors aren't ATP events so that's not shocking) or TennisChannel.com...

TheMusicLover
01-15-2009, 04:28 PM
Drink that kool-aid! The 'Fed gets the easy draws' conspiracy theory lives!

Haha. Not again, eh?
If I remember well, Fed had to play both Djokovic AND Murray at the most recent slam, didn't he? Didn't bother him all too much anyways... ;)

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:29 PM
Hmm...are Federer fans actually going to try and argue he didn't get a far easier draw?

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 04:29 PM
Any one care give a link?

Couldn't find the draw from AO Official site.:(http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/draws/ms/r1s1.html

Should be able to go to the front page and select 'Draws'. What part of the world are you in? I wonder if you're getting a 'mirrored' copy of the website - and it hasn't gotten its update yet (yes, I work in IT... - pays the bills :) )

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:29 PM
Haha. Not again, eh?
If I remember well, Fed had to play both Djokovic AND Murray at the most recent slam, didn't he? Didn't bother him all too much anyways... ;)

Yes in the FINAL he got to play Murray. That's not "your side of the draw." Not to mention it was Murray's third day in a row after Federer basically had 48+ hours off. Totally different situation.

The Kicker
01-15-2009, 04:30 PM
Any one care give a link?

Couldn't find the draw from AO Official site.:(

Here you go sir.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/draws/ms/r1s1.html

DTLshot
01-15-2009, 04:31 PM
http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/draws/ms/r1s1.html

Should be able to go to the front page and select 'Draws'. What part of the world are you in? I wonder if you're getting a 'mirrored' copy of the website - and it hasn't gotten it's update yet (yes, I work in IT... - pays the bills :) )

Thanks, man.

It must be the cache. I work in IT too, have hard time pay the bill, though.:)

marc45
01-15-2009, 04:31 PM
monfils-simon could/should be a war in the fourth

Morrissey
01-15-2009, 04:33 PM
So Fed gets Joker again in his half like at the US Open. While his two biggest threats have to duke it out with each other in the SF. Given Joker's form of late he may not even get to play Fed in the SF again. So Fed deep down must be feeling good about his chances of getting #14.

tacou
01-15-2009, 04:33 PM
could be a roddick/kohlschreiber repeat

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 04:35 PM
Haha. Not again, eh?
If I remember well, Fed had to play both Djokovic AND Murray at the most recent slam, didn't he? Didn't bother him all too much anyways... ;)Yes, you are right. Fed kept his head down and took care of business.

Apparently a little of the Nadal fans' drink of choice goes a long way.... I have a feeling some of these people will be in nursing homes in 2070 ranting that Rafa got shafted by the draws at the majors... :)

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:35 PM
Hmm...are Federer fans actually going to try and argue he didn't get a far easier draw?

"Far" easier? No. Easier? Will give you that one this time,considering the form Murray is at the moment.But then again Nadal had a pretty easy draw at AO last year(not that I've seen any Nadal fan admit that),sometimes the luck swings your way,sometimes it doesn't.

Morrissey
01-15-2009, 04:36 PM
Drink that kool-aid! The 'Fed gets the easy draws' conspiracy theory lives!

Shoot, given that he seems to get the lesser of the threat on his half of the draw more often than not seems to be too much of a coincidence. ;-)

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:36 PM
"Far" easier? No. Easier? Will give you that one this time,considering the form Murray is at the moment.But then again Nadal had a pretty easy draw at AO last year(not that I've seen any Nadal fan admit that),sometimes the luck swings your way,sometimes it doesn't.

Yeah Nadal got an easy draw last year. 1 out of the last 5 ain't bad I guess. :razz:

maratsafin5
01-15-2009, 04:39 PM
So, sooo mad with Safin facing Fed in the 3rd round in his final Aussie Open.

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:39 PM
Yeah Nadal got an easy draw last year. 1 out of the last 5 ain't bad I guess. :razz:

Actually Nadal didn't play a top 30 player until semis at USO last year as well but Fed on the other hand did have pretty easy draw at the FO last year and at maybe at Wimbledon as well(although I don't think that the draw matters for Fed at Wimbledon aside from Nadal).

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:40 PM
So, sooo mad with Safin facing Fed in the 3rd round in his final Aussie Open.

He's Safin,maybe he'll change his mind by the end of the year.You never know with him.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 04:41 PM
The first real test for Nadal should be the 3rd round: Tursunov/Haas/Schwank. 4th round: Hewitt/Gasquet/Gonzalez. QF: Monfils/Simon. SF: Murray/Tsonga.
I can't say I'm happy but it could have been worse.
Not that much worse :( The only good news is Nalbandian and Del Potro are on the other side (as well as Cilic who is becoming a dangerous opponent). Hewitt is gonna be a pain to face in front of his homecrowd (if it's him). Monfils scares me more than Simon in a best of 5 and semi vs Murray will be a tall order, if it's Tsonga, I hope Nadal tears him to pieces (revenge :evil:) I don't think my heart could handle a repeat of AO 2008.

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:43 PM
Actually Nadal didn't play a top 30 player until semis at USO last year as well but Fed on the other hand did have pretty easy draw at the FO last year and at maybe at Wimbledon as well(although I don't think that draw matters for Fed at Wimbledon that much aside from Nadal).

Federer just manages to dodge all of the guys that can beat him in the majors. For whatever reason. Murray, and Simon in Nadal's half? Look at Federer's quarter. What?

I just hope it's an entertaining tournament.

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:44 PM
Not that much worse :( The only good news is Nalbandian and Del Potro are on the other side (as well as Cilic who is becoming a dangerous opponent). Hewitt is gonna be a pain to face in front of his homecrowd (if it's him). Monfils scares me more than Simon in a best of 5 and semi vs Murray will be a tall order, if it's Tsonga, I hope Nadal tears him to pieces (revenge :evil:) I don't think my heart could handle a repeat of AO 2008.

Actually,there's a chance Tsonga might not play AO at all because of his back injury.The guy just doesn't seem to be able to get a break.

TheMusicLover
01-15-2009, 04:45 PM
Yes, you are right. Fed kept his head down and took care of business.

And that's what a CHAMPION of any a GS is supposed to do.
BEAT. THEM. ALL.

Apparently a little of the Nadal fans' drink of choice goes a long way.... I have a feeling some of these people will be in nursing homes in 2070 ranting that Rafa got shafted by the draws at the majors... :)

Well, to me, any whinage about draws, wherever it comes from, is as daft as it can be. I mean, who actually expected Tsonga to appear in the finals last year? All of these guys can play pretty well, and it's not like the 'better player on paper' is always sure of making at least the semis...

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:46 PM
Not that much worse :( The only good news is Nalbandian and Del Potro are on the other side (as well as Cilic who is becoming a dangerous opponent). Hewitt is gonna be a pain to face in front of his homecrowd (if it's him). Monfils scares me more than Simon in a best of 5 and semi vs Murray will be a tall order, if it's Tsonga, I hope Nadal tears him to pieces (revenge :evil:) I don't think my heart could handle a repeat of AO 2008.

I have to disagree on Hewitt. If Nadal is a "true #1" he should tear Hewitt at this stage of the game to shreds. It doesn't matter that it's the Australian. Nadal playing his best still takes out Monfils. Not so sure about Simon. Nadal has a tough road but he could still do it. And who knows, the draw could very well open up for him.

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:46 PM
Federer just manages to dodge all of the guys that can beat him in the majors. For whatever reason. Murray, and Simon in Nadal's half? Look at Federer's quarter. What?

I just hope it's an entertaining tournament.

When did Simon prove he can beat Fed in majors? The guy never got past the 3d round in any major and suddenly he's supposed to be some grand threat at majors.As for Murray while he's in great form,he never beat Fed at the major either unlike Djokovic who straightsetted Fed here last year.

veritech
01-15-2009, 04:47 PM
Federer just manages to dodge all of the guys that can beat him in the majors. For whatever reason. Murray, and Simon in Nadal's half? Look at Federer's quarter. What?

I just hope it's an entertaining tournament.

you make it sound as if there are a lot of people who can knock off federer out of a slam, when there are only 4 people (nadal, djokovic, murray, simon) who have beaten him in non-slam events since the USO.

TheMusicLover
01-15-2009, 04:47 PM
Actually,there's a chance Tsonga might not play AO at all because of his back injury.The guy just doesn't seem to be able to get a break.

I heard about his back injury today, and like you say, he doesn't ever seem to get a break from all those injuries! It's a shame, really - he would be a lot higher ranked and more feared player if not for those :evil: :evil: :evil: injuries.

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:48 PM
you make it sound as if there are a lot of people who can knock off federer out of a slam, when there are only 4 people (nadal, djokovic, murray, simon) who have beaten him in non-slam events since the USO.

Plenty of other players could beat him as well. You realize that Federer hasn't even played that many tournaments since the USO? The USO is near the end of the season...this is the beginning...

babbette
01-15-2009, 04:49 PM
when Rafa has confidence and plays his best, he can beat anybody (like when he got his revenge against Tsonga in Miami...that was a great day!!!!) but sometimes it almost seems to me like he gives up more and more lately. It's like he tries, if it's not working out that day, oh well. Sometimes I get that vibe from him.:(

Hopefully he's going to be 100% all the way through.

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:49 PM
I heard about his back injury today, and like you say, he doesn't ever seem to get a break from all those injuries! It's a shame, really - he would be a lot higher ranked and more feared player if not for those :evil: :evil: :evil: injuries.

Yeah,he missed a big part of last year and still made it to TMC.When he's healthy he always delivers results,unfortunately that's not very often.Really like his game and was looking forward to watching him at AO this year,so I hope he can still make it.

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Yeah,he missed a big part of last year and still made it to TMC.When he's healthy he always delivers results,unfortunately that's not very often.Really like his game and was looking forward to watching him at AO this year,so I hope he can still make it.

Well pride cometh before a fall and all that...wasn't the guy just talking about how he would be number 1 this year?

veritech
01-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Not that much worse :( The only good news is Nalbandian and Del Potro are on the other side (as well as Cilic who is becoming a dangerous opponent). Hewitt is gonna be a pain to face in front of his homecrowd (if it's him). Monfils scares me more than Simon in a best of 5 and semi vs Murray will be a tall order, if it's Tsonga, I hope Nadal tears him to pieces (revenge :evil:) I don't think my heart could handle a repeat of AO 2008.

hewitt's just returning from surgery, and plus nadal is 4-1 with hewitt since 2006. and tsonga is also suffering from injury, and to repeat what he did last year would be a very tough order.

babbette
01-15-2009, 04:51 PM
Federer just manages to dodge all of the guys that can beat him in the majors. For whatever reason. Murray, and Simon in Nadal's half? Look at Federer's quarter. What?

I just hope it's an entertaining tournament.

someone from Roger's team pays someone the big bucks to make sure the draws are satisfactory for Roger..

seffina
01-15-2009, 04:51 PM
Hey Fed can't help that God favors him!

No, I'll say that Rafa's draw is probably the hardest of the four. His has the least amount of qualifiers and also has some of the hotter players right now. However, Fed's and Rafa's draws are harder than Murray's and Djokovic's draws. Still it's not like Rafa's is sooooooooo hard. He has some really good players, but he can and should beat them at least until the semis.

veritech
01-15-2009, 04:51 PM
Plenty of other players could beat him as well. You realize that Federer hasn't even played that many tournaments since the USO? The USO is near the end of the season...this is the beginning...

yeah, but how many players have proven they can top federer at the slams?

babbette
01-15-2009, 04:54 PM
Ok. Enough musings. Who here knows someone on the inside that could help us increase the number of injuries to clear the path for a Rafa/Roger final?

seffina
01-15-2009, 04:54 PM
yeah, but how many players have proven they can top federer at the slams?Recently, only Nadal and Nole.

veritech
01-15-2009, 04:54 PM
Well pride cometh before a fall and all that...wasn't the guy just talking about how he would be number 1 this year?

"I hope (the No. 1 player will be) me, but there are a lot of good players and it's going to be a war," Tsonga said while preparing for a season-opening event in Brisbane, Australia.

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20090101/Tsonga_declares_war_on_Nadal%27s_No._1_ranking

veritech
01-15-2009, 04:55 PM
Recently, only Nadal and Nole.

don't forget novak. ;)

nvm, you edited it.

seffina
01-15-2009, 04:55 PM
Ok. Enough musings. Who here knows someone on the inside that could help us increase the number of injuries to clear the path for a Rafa/Roger final?

I hope no one. I would rather the path be earned. Seriously, I would never wish injury upon anyone. I know you're probably kidding...

TennisandMusic
01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
"I hope (the No. 1 player will be) me, but there are a lot of good players and it's going to be a war," Tsonga said while preparing for a season-opening event in Brisbane, Australia.

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20090101/Tsonga_declares_war_on_Nadal%27s_No._1_ranking

Look at all the comments in that article. :p

Anyway looks like fun times are here again and that the usual suspects are active.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Actually,there's a chance Tsonga might not play AO at all because of his back injury.The guy just doesn't seem to be able to get a break.
I know it will probably be Murray. Murray- Nadal matches are so intense and hard-fought that I fear neither of them will have enough left in the tank for the final but we'll see. Given the draw, I feel the trophy could go to the winner of Djoko-Fed. Djoko seems to be in better form and fresher than at USO, so maybe that semi will be more competitive than last summer.

zagor
01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Well pride cometh before a fall and all that...wasn't the guy just talking about how he would be number 1 this year?

Maybe,although I don't care about that stuff much really.Apart from Fed he has the most entertaining game on tour for me so I hope to see him recover for AO.As far as I'm concerned Tsonga is one of the few true all-courters on tour,he's a very rare breed these days.

someone from Roger's team pays someone the big bucks to make sure the draws are satisfactory for Roger..

Lol :)

TheMusicLover
01-15-2009, 04:57 PM
Ok. Enough musings. Who here knows someone on the inside that could help us increase the number of injuries to clear the path for a Rafa/Roger final?

I rather see my two favourites beating their opponents on their way to the final being healthy... both the opponents and my favs I mean.

"I hope (the No. 1 player will be) me, but there are a lot of good players and it's going to be a war," Tsonga said while preparing for a season-opening event in Brisbane, Australia.

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20090101/Tsonga_declares_war_on_Nadal%27s_No._1_ranking

Thanks for posting this quote, it only shows that Tsonga has the proper mindset for a pro player - of course, wanting to one day become the #1, not stating that he necessarily should or will be or anything the like.

seffina
01-15-2009, 04:57 PM
don't forget novak. ;)

nvm, you edited it.I was only thinking finals and then I remembered. :)

marc45
01-15-2009, 04:58 PM
only nadal and joker since safin

babbette
01-15-2009, 04:59 PM
I hope no one. I would rather the path be earned. Seriously, I would never wish injury upon anyone. I know you're probably kidding...

of course I would hate for Rafa to get easy access to the final. I always love him more when he has earned his place....but damnit it's only the beginning of the year http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/rafa_photo/sad-smiley-001.gif overwork his-just-healed injury just yet http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/rafa_photo/sad-smiley-001.gif it's not fair http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/rafa_photo/sad-smiley-001.gif

marc45
01-15-2009, 05:00 PM
I know it will probably be Murray. Murray- Nadal matches are so intense and hard-fought that I fear neither of them will have enough left in the tank for the final but we'll see. Given the draw, I feel the trophy could go to the winner of Djoko-Fed. Djoko seems to be in better form and fresher than at USO, so maybe that semi will be more competitive than last summer.actually it may be important that if rafa and murray play they play the first semi with an extra day off...depends which side of the draw opens....that is something about oz that bothers me (u.s. open too) the extra day off before the final for one semifinal winner (extra day off at flushing before semis...correction)

zagor
01-15-2009, 05:02 PM
I know it will probably be Murray. Murray- Nadal matches are so intense and hard-fought that I fear neither of them will have enough left in the tank for the final but we'll see. Given the draw, I feel the trophy could go to the winner of Djoko-Fed. Djoko seems to be in better form and fresher than at USO, so maybe that semi will be more competitive than last summer.

Well just becuase Murray beat Nadal at USO doesn't mean that he'll repeat that at AO as well if they meet,this is a slower HC afterall so Murray won't get so many freebies on his serve.Fed will have to play his best if he is to get past Djokovic in semis(if they both get there),I think Djokovic actually plays better on slower HC,on faster HC his FH can be a liability sometimes.

I still believe that each of the top 4 has a a good shot at the title,can't wait for it to start already :).

VGP
01-15-2009, 05:03 PM
So, sooo mad with Safin facing Fed in the 3rd round in his final Aussie Open.

I'm looking forward to that one.....also a possible Murray/Nishikori 3rd round matchup.

Fed's draw doesn't sound "that" easy......Seppi (1st), Moya (2nd), Safin (3rd), Berdych/Wawrinka (4th), Del Potro/Ferrer/Tipsarevic(QF), Roddick/Nalbandian/Djokovic (SF)?

Good to see Taylor Dent and Bernard Tomic in the main draw......

Gumby
01-15-2009, 05:03 PM
Federer got another easy draw.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:04 PM
I have to disagree on Hewitt. If Nadal is a "true #1" he should tear Hewitt at this stage of the game to shreds. It doesn't matter that it's the Australian. Nadal playing his best still takes out Monfils. Not so sure about Simon. Nadal has a tough road but he could still do it. And who knows, the draw could very well open up for him.
I agree with you on almost everything but it DOES matter that Hewitt is Australian, the match is gonna be late at night with a very noisy crowd which can't be a good thing (remember how much the Roddick match took out of Djoko at USO, physically and emotionally? And Hewitt is the ultimate fighter as everyone knows especially at AO, see his match vs Baghdatis, it was insane!) This being said Nadal should win of course, no doubt that at this stage of his career he is a better player than Hewitt, still the match is gonna be an ordeal for all the reasons I listed before.

marc45
01-15-2009, 05:04 PM
and we'll talkin sept. about the no day off before final at flushing

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:07 PM
actually it may be important that if rafa and murray play they play the first semi with an extra day off...depends which side of the draw opens....that is something about oz that bothers me (u.s. open too) the extra day off before the final for one semifinal winner (extra day off at flushing before semis...correction)
Yes, extra day off never seems fair. I like the way the FO does it. (Note that at USO last year Murray got 0 day off before the final, which seems even less fair!)

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 05:08 PM
I know it will probably be Murray. Murray- Nadal matches are so intense and hard-fought that I fear neither of them will have enough left in the tank for the final but we'll see. Given the draw, I feel the trophy could go to the winner of Djoko-Fed. Djoko seems to be in better form and fresher than at USO, so maybe that semi will be more competitive than last summer.

Here's what I got from your post:

1) You're setting already setting up an excuse for Nadal if he gets past Murray and loses in the final

2) You're already trying to diminish a Federer win over Murray if Murray gets past Nadal

3) You're not giving Federer credit for his USO win last year

4) You're assuming that any of these guys will get to the semis in the first place, as I didn't notice any 'ifs' in your post.

VGP
01-15-2009, 05:14 PM
For me, two interesting first round WS matchups:

Wozniacki v Peer

Paszek v Dokic

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:14 PM
I'm looking forward to that one.....also a possible Murray/Nishikori 3rd round matchup.

Fed's draw doesn't sound "that" easy......Seppi (1st), Moya (2nd), Safin (3rd), Berdych/Wawrinka (4th), Del Potro/Ferrer/Tipsarevic(QF), Roddick/Nalbandian/Djokovic (SF)?

Good to see Taylor Dent and Bernard Tomic in the main draw......
It sounds completely ridiculous (Moya?? Please, the guy is almost 33) until Del Potro. And please don't give me Safin, that doesn't even amuse me anymore...

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:16 PM
Here's what I got from your post:

1) You're setting already setting up an excuse for Nadal if he gets past Murray and loses in the final

2) You're already trying to diminish a Federer win over Murray if Murray gets past Nadal

3) You're not giving Federer credit for his USO win last year

4) You're assuming that any of these guys will get to the semis in the first place, as I didn't notice any 'ifs' in your post.
I'll assume whatever I want, if you don't like it assume something of your own but don't start bugging me with your whining, I'm not in the mood.

NamRanger
01-15-2009, 05:17 PM
Well just becuase Murray beat Nadal at USO doesn't mean that he'll repeat that at AO as well if they meet,this is a slower HC afterall so Murray won't get so many freebies on his serve.Fed will have to play his best if he is to get past Djokovic in semis(if they both get there),I think Djokovic actually plays better on slower HC,on faster HC his FH can be a liability sometimes.

I still believe that each of the top 4 has a a good shot at the title,can't wait for it to start already :).



If you've been watching the tune up events that use plexicushion, it looks like the courts are going to be playing really fast this year. Kooyong and Sydney are usually pretty good indications of what the Australian Open is going to play like.

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 05:18 PM
I agree with you on almost everything but it DOES matter that Hewitt is Australian, the match is gonna be late at night with a very noisy crowd which can't be a good thing (remember how much the Roddick match took out of Djoko at USO, physically and emotionally? And Hewitt is the ultimate fighter as everyone knows especially at AO, see his match vs Baghdatis, it was insane!) This being said Nadal should win of course, no doubt that at this stage of his career he is a better player than Hewitt, still the match is gonna be an ordeal for all the reasons I listed before.Dude, or dudette; it's 2009! Hewitt is a shell of his former self (right now). He has almost no match experience lately. And yes he's Australian - but to many in his own country, he's an embarrassment. I'm sure a lot of Aussies would trade him to us in the States for a bag of used jocks. He's not 'fair dinkum' like Rafter.

By summer we'll know what Hewitt has left in the tank. Right now, no real major contender (or their fanboys/girls) should lose a nanosecond of sleep about having to play him.

VGP
01-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Seppi played Federer pretty hard at Monte Carlo a couple years back (two TBs), but Federer just beat him in Doha. Moya still hits a good ball, but he is 0-7 vs Fed, but it'll be early and Moya won't be played out. Safin played pretty good ball at Perth. Tipsarevic will want revenge after last year's AO........if these matchups happen.

VGP
01-15-2009, 05:21 PM
I agree with WCA on Hewitt. He was playing so tentatively in Perth (first match back after surgery and all).

R_Federer
01-15-2009, 05:22 PM
Number 14 coming up for Federer!!!

Telepatic
01-15-2009, 05:23 PM
Evereyone got hard draws,but Nadal got hardest possible and Fed easiest this time.

NamRanger
01-15-2009, 05:23 PM
It sounds completely ridiculous (Moya?? Please, the guy is almost 33) until Del Potro. And please don't give me Safin, that doesn't even amuse me anymore...



I didn't see any excuses about Moya's age when he nearly beat Nadal in Chennai last year. I'm pretty sure you were saying something along the lines of "Moya was playing amazing ball! Moya has so much experience! Moya was Nadal's mentor!"



And Safin can turn it on, at any given time. Did you not watch Wimbledon last year, where he utterly destroyed Djokovic? IF he does manages to show up, that's a very dangerous opponent for Federer, especially in the early stages of a slam.

veritech
01-15-2009, 05:23 PM
Here's what I got from your post:

1) You're setting already setting up an excuse for Nadal if he gets past Murray and loses in the final

2) You're already trying to diminish a Federer win over Murray if Murray gets past Nadal

3) You're not giving Federer credit for his USO win last year

4) You're assuming that any of these guys will get to the semis in the first place, as I didn't notice any 'ifs' in your post.

hilarious!! already making excuses for nadal and discrediting wins for federer and the draw just came out! great points

NamRanger
01-15-2009, 05:25 PM
If anyone should be complaining it's Roddick. He doesn't have a single easy match except his 1st round match. He pretty much has to beat a quality player EVERY round.

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 05:26 PM
I'll assume whatever I want, if you don't like it assume something of your own but don't start bugging me with your whining, I'm not in the mood.Why don't you debate his points instead of calling him a 'whiner'? They sounded pretty plausible.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:26 PM
when Rafa has confidence and plays his best, he can beat anybody (like when he got his revenge against Tsonga in Miami...that was a great day!!!!) but sometimes it almost seems to me like he gives up more and more lately. It's like he tries, if it's not working out that day, oh well. Sometimes I get that vibe from him.:(

Hopefully he's going to be 100% all the way through.
I never get that vibe from him, never. Even in AO's semi last year he kept trying. It wasn't working ok but he still tried. Don't become pessimistic now, I would add he will be better prepared for Murray (if it's him) than Tsonga. Tsonga really surprised him last year whereas with Murray he knows exactly what to expect and he has beaten him 5 times before, if he gets there he'll be ready, take heart! (Remember the Olympics, everybody thought Djoko would beat him but it didn't happen, Rafa actually LOVES that kind of challenge, he steps up to it).

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 05:28 PM
I'll assume whatever I want, if you don't like it assume something of your own but don't start bugging me with your whining, I'm not in the mood.

OK, and I'll find your assuming premature with a touch of sycophancy. D'accord.

In)SpiRe
01-15-2009, 05:28 PM
I don't get how people are saying Fed has an easy draw and Nadal has it tough. There are MANY good players in both halves..

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:30 PM
Dude, or dudette; it's 2009! Hewitt is a shell of his former self (right now). He has almost no match experience lately. And yes he's Australian - but to many in his own country, he's an embarrassment. I'm sure a lot of Aussies would trade him to us in the States for a bag of used jocks. He's not 'fair dinkum' like Rafter.

By summer we'll know what Hewitt has left in the tank. Right now, no real major contender (or their fanboys/girls) should lose a nanosecond of sleep about having to play him.
Thanks, I might be exaggerating the Hewitt threat a little (it's the pre-slam anxiety syndrome :))

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:30 PM
OK, and I'll find your assuming premature with a touch of sycophancy. D'accord.
Whatever dude.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:32 PM
If anyone should be complaining it's Roddick. He doesn't have a single easy match except his 1st round match. He pretty much has to beat a quality player EVERY round.
Who does he have to play?

Nadal_Freak
01-15-2009, 05:34 PM
Ah I'm not complaining about Nadal's draw. It looks pretty even for both Federer and Nadal.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:35 PM
I didn't see any excuses about Moya's age when he nearly beat Nadal in Chennai last year. I'm pretty sure you were saying something along the lines of "Moya was playing amazing ball! Moya has so much experience! Moya was Nadal's mentor!"



And Safin can turn it on, at any given time. Did you not watch Wimbledon last year, where he utterly destroyed Djokovic? IF he does manages to show up, that's a very dangerous opponent for Federer, especially in the early stages of a slam.
Moya's level has dropped a lot since the beginning of last year. Safin is gonna retire, isn't he?

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:37 PM
Evereyone got hard draws,but Nadal got hardest possible and Fed easiest this time.
What do you think about Djoko's draw?

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 05:38 PM
Number 14 coming up for Federer!!!
Sounds like the perfect jinxing to me :twisted:

babbette
01-15-2009, 05:40 PM
I never get that vibe from him, never. Even in AO's semi last year he kept trying. It wasn't working ok but he still tried. Don't become pessimistic now, I would add he will be better prepared for Murray (if it's him) than Tsonga. Tsonga really surprised him last year whereas with Murray he knows exactly what to expect and he has beaten him 5 times before, if he gets there he'll be ready, take heart! (Remember the Olympics, everybody thought Djoko would beat him but it didn't happen, Rafa actually LOVES that kind of challenge, he steps up to it).

Don't get me wrong, of course Rafa is a fighter, hardly gives up, everyone knows that. But I have a lot of his dvds and rewatch the matches sometimes, and in some matches he does have that vibe. But never ever in slams, those are blood, sweat and tears all the way. that's what I expect. But hopefully it won't be too much for his recovered injury. I didn't want him to be pushed so far so early, but well, that's the game.

gj011
01-15-2009, 05:40 PM
What do you think about Djoko's draw?

Not a bad draw for Djokovic and Jankovic.

I wanted Djokovic in Nadal's half, but this is OK:
qualifier,
Chardy,
Mathieu/Dent/Neiminen,
Soderling/Fish/Baghdatis,
Roddick/Nalbandian
Federer

My only wish for Djokovic's draw this year is to avoid Nadal in RG SF.

Jankovic has a nice draw. Sugiyama in the 3rd, Bartoli/Szavay in 4th, Zvonareva/Petrova in the QF, Safina/Ivanovic in the SF.

babbette
01-15-2009, 05:44 PM
you know what, even if Roger has an easier draw, it doesn't mean he's definitely making it to the final. AO is the home of random players that play the matches of their lives, so we shouldn't be so sure he'll make the final. Any possessed player can come up with magic on anyday...there's somethin in the water down there.:)

wilsonplayer
01-15-2009, 05:44 PM
nadal's quarter is much harder than any of the others - Simon, Ancic, karlovic, Monfils, Gonzalez, Gasquet, Tursonov are all formidable on hard courts (gonzalez made it to the finals two years ago and monfils just beat nadal)

i'd say nadal doesn't make the semis

marc45
01-15-2009, 05:45 PM
Yes, extra day off never seems fair. I like the way the FO does it. (Note that at USO last year Murray got 0 day off before the final, which seems even less fair!)right, but normally neither gets a day...and when's the last time we've had a great men's final at flushing?...it certainly determines fitness

rubberduckies
01-15-2009, 05:46 PM
Will anyone be able to stop the Latvian Legend Ernests Gulbis?

Leublu tennis
01-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Well, at least I got it right that Marat is in the bottom half.

babbette
01-15-2009, 05:47 PM
nadal's quarter is much harder than any of the others - Simon, Ancic, karlovic, Monfils, Gonzalez, Gasquet, Tursonov are all formidable on hard courts (gonzalez made it to the finals two years ago and monfils just beat nadal)

i'd say nadal doesn't make the semis

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/rafa_photo/sad-smiley-001.gif

SikSerb
01-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Novak's got it easy, he should cruise through into the quarters at least where he can meet Nalbandian/Roddick, thats really the first challenge he could face. Then Federer in the semi and potentially Murray or Nadal in the finals. Great outcome for Nole.

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 05:49 PM
Plenty of other players could beat him as well. You realize that Federer hasn't even played that many tournaments since the USO? The USO is near the end of the season...this is the beginning...3 out of 5 sets - different ballgame. Don't bet any money you can't afford to lose against Fed before the SF...

someone from Roger's team pays someone the big bucks to make sure the draws are satisfactory for Roger..Mirka threatens to sit on the tournament director if the draw isn't 'favorable'... :)

marc45
01-15-2009, 05:50 PM
Will anyone be able to stop the Latvian Legend Ernests Gulbis?
as i said earlier, gulbis has a real opportunity here..he gets by blake, tsonga injured already...he could find himself against murray in quarters...with murray feeling the most pressure

babbette
01-15-2009, 05:54 PM
Mirka threatens to sit on the tournament director if the draw isn't 'favorable'... :)


would you really put it past her? Some women get crazy when they get a little power. 8)

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:01 PM
...he could find himself against murray in quarters...with murray feeling the most pressureI would be with you - but 4 months ago at the USO, Gulbis was up a set and a break against Roddick - and completely caved in. 4 months is not a long time. He has to beat a biggie at a major before I buy in to the hype. A flashy game and $0.50 will buy you a cup of (bad) coffee. To paraphrase Herman Edwards (soon to be ex) coach of the KC Chiefs "you play to win the match!"

David L
01-15-2009, 06:02 PM
It sounds completely ridiculous (Moya?? Please, the guy is almost 33) until Del Potro. And please don't give me Safin, that doesn't even amuse me anymore...
Well, Moya almost beat Nadal in Chennai last year and did beat him in Miami 2006 when he was 30. Safin also beat Djokovic in the 2nd round of Wimbledon last year and made it to the semis. These are 2nd and 3rd round matches remember. Who does Nadal have in the 2nd and 3rd round? Serra, Karanmusic and possible Haas, who is in his 30s himself and has been no further than a Slam semi in only one of the Slams, in his whole career.

Zaragoza
01-15-2009, 06:03 PM
Not that much worse :( The only good news is Nalbandian and Del Potro are on the other side (as well as Cilic who is becoming a dangerous opponent). Hewitt is gonna be a pain to face in front of his homecrowd (if it's him). Monfils scares me more than Simon in a best of 5 and semi vs Murray will be a tall order, if it's Tsonga, I hope Nadal tears him to pieces (revenge :evil:) I don't think my heart could handle a repeat of AO 2008.

Nadal needed some easy matches in the early rounds to find his form and his first 2 rounds look easy. He could have started playing someone like Youzhny, Gulbis, Querrey, Hewitt or Safin in the 1st round and Nadal is always rusty in the 1st round so that's a good thing for him.
He could play some tough matches in 3rd and 4th round but I don't see him losing to any of those players unless he is really out of form.
Then in the QF, Simon may not go that far: Ancic, Karlovic, Almagro, Youzhny, Monfils...too many players can stop him. All these players could beat Monfils as well, that section of the draw is pretty open.


The worst thing of his draw is Murray: Melzer was really close to beat him at the USO but I don't think that would happen again. Nishikori is one of those players that maybe could give Murray some problems, he's a smart player with no weaknesses and played very well at the USO. Verdasco,Gulbis,Blake...are too inconsistent to beat Murray in a best of 5 sets on hardcourts. Tsonga is Murray's biggest threat before the semis so if he withdraws it would be bad news for Nadal.

Many unexpected things happen in Slams, just see last year: AO (Tsonga beating Murray, the winner of Doha, in 1st round and then demolishing Nadal; Tipsarevic almost beating Federer in 3rd round ; Kohlschreiber beating Roddick in 3rd round; Safin beating Djokovic in 2nd round of Wimbledon; Melzer almost beating Murray in the USO).
So don't be pessimistic just because of how things look on paper, Slams are a box of surprises.

tudwell
01-15-2009, 06:08 PM
My prediction: Marat Safin beats Roger Federer in the 3rd round and subsequently wins his second Australian Open.

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 06:09 PM
My prediction: Marat Safin beats Roger Federer in the 3rd round and subsequently wins his second Australian Open.

That would be incredibly awesome.

Cyan
01-15-2009, 06:12 PM
Federer is not winning slam number 14 at the AO this year. Sampras had to play 52 slams to win slam number 14. Fed is not going to do it in slam number 39(AO 2009) but later. Just wait.

seffina
01-15-2009, 06:12 PM
A look at potential Rafa opponents until the quarters:

1st Round - #75 Rochus, nothing that should give Rafa too much trouble.
2nd Round - Probably #58 Serra, who he beat three times last year including last year's AO. Every single time easily.
3rd Round - #79 Haas, who he has a 3-0 h2h with and also beat last year easily, or #30 Tursunov who he beat in Rotterdam last year
4th Round - #25 Gasquet h2h 6-0 or #14 Gonzalez h2h 4-3(who he hadn't beaten on hard until the Olympics last year) or #37 Kiefer h2h 4-0 or #74 Hewitt h2h 4-4 (who he also beat on hard for the first time at the Olympics)

So really, only Gonzalez and Hewitt have ever given Rafa a hard time and he beat both of them last year and can do it again.

Morrissey
01-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Ah I'm not complaining about Nadal's draw. It looks pretty even for both Federer and Nadal.

Just when I had you figured out you say something like this. :shock:

VGP
01-15-2009, 06:13 PM
My prediction: Marat Safin beats Roger Federer in the 3rd round and subsequently wins his second Australian Open.

.....and calls it a career a la Pete Sampras.

westside
01-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Who else thinks that this is an awesome draw? :D

There are some awesome possilbe 3rd round matches

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:15 PM
My prediction: Marat Safin beats Roger Federer in the 3rd round and subsequently wins his second Australian Open.In the voice of Mr. Mackey on 'South Park' - "Just say 'no' to drugs, m'kay?"

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 06:15 PM
Just when I had you figured out you say something like this. :shock:

Seriously. Mindfreaked my eyes out of my skull.

marc45
01-15-2009, 06:15 PM
I would be with you - but 4 months ago at the USO, Gulbis was up a set and a break against Roddick - and completely caved in. 4 months is not a long time. He has to beat a biggie at a major before I buy in to the hype. A flashy game and $0.50 will buy you a cup of (bad) coffee. To paraphrase Herman Edwards (soon to be ex) coach of the KC Chiefs "you play to win the match!"i hear you, i'm not sold myself...just the results this year are instructive...But he is talented, and this draw looks good for him

veritech
01-15-2009, 06:15 PM
Who else thinks that this is an awesome draw? :D

There are some awesome possilbe 3rd round matches

i agree. this should be a really entertaining AO.

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:17 PM
i hear you, i'm not sold myself...Cool.

...just the results this year are instructive...And I'm sure the Murray camp feels about the same about his results...

Morrissey
01-15-2009, 06:18 PM
Will anyone be able to stop the Latvian Legend Ernests Gulbis?

What exactly has the Latvian done in his career so far to be called a Legend? Outside of possibly being the only tennis player to come out of his country? Mainly because he comes from a priveledged family in which his dad owns a newspaper company.

seffina
01-15-2009, 06:19 PM
What exactly has the Latvian done in his career so far to be called a Legend? Outside of possibly being the only tennis player to come out of his country? Mainly because he comes from a priveledged family in which his dad owns a newspaper company.

I think it's a joke on how everyone has anointed him the next great one.

TheMusicLover
01-15-2009, 06:20 PM
Federer is not winning slam number 14 at the AO this year. Sampras had to play 52 slams to win slam number 14. Fed is not going to do it in slam number 39(AO 2009) but later. Just wait.

Yeah. Sampras had only 11 slams at the age of 27, so Federer would never get any more than 11 at 27 also.

Oh, wait... :neutral:

Your logic truly is an Epic Fail.

Morrissey
01-15-2009, 06:21 PM
I think it's a joke on how everyone has anointed him the next great one.

I have nothing against the guy. I think he's got game. But he needs to develop some defense and court sense before we crown him into something great. Right now he's the Latvian Blake.

tudwell
01-15-2009, 06:21 PM
In the voice of Mr. Mackey on 'South Park' - "Just say 'no' to drugs, m'kay?"
If Safin's hungry, Safin's gonna eat. Just you wait and see.

Nadal_Freak
01-15-2009, 06:21 PM
Just when I had you figured out you say something like this. :shock:
Federer will likely have to beat the reigning champion at the Australian Open. Also Del Potro is quite a tough player these days. Tsonga will probably be out of the Australian. Nadal's draw looks easy until the Quarter Finals. Same with Fed.

NamRanger
01-15-2009, 06:22 PM
Who does he have to play?



Roddick:2nd round Llodra, 3rd round Kohlschreiber/ Ferrero, 4th round Nalbandian, QF Djokovic, SF Federer.



That. That's assuming he somehow gets past Nalbandian to even play Djokovic. And if he manages to get past Djokovic, he has to beat Federer. If he DOES beat Federer, then he has to either play Nadal/Murray/Whoever else wins the other side of the draw.

Cyan
01-15-2009, 06:23 PM
Yeah. Sampras had only 11 slams at the age of 27, so Federer would never get any more than 11 at 27 also.

Oh, wait... :neutral:

Your logic truly is an Epic Fail.

Im not saying Fed will have to play 52 slams to do it. But he is not that much better than Pete that he will do it in 39 slams. sorry. not happening. he will have to wait... a while to tie sampras 14 slams. mark my words.

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:24 PM
Your logic truly is an Epic Fail.Trolls and logic do not mix...

If Safin's hungry, Safin's gonna eat. Just you wait and see.Time for your family to have an intervention... you're having a bad trip...

After Marat got his face rearranged in Moscow he's lucky he's not eating through a straw...

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:25 PM
Im not saying Fed will have to play 52 slams to do it. But he is not that much better than Pete that he will do it in 39 slams. sorry. not happening. he will have to wait... a while to tie sampras 14 slams. mark my words.I hate to suggest Quitting as an option. But at this point, it might be your most graceful way out of this. I'm starting to feel embarrassed for your relatives...

Cyan
01-15-2009, 06:27 PM
I hate to suggest Quitting as an option. But at this point, it might be your most graceful way out of this. I'm starting to feel embarrassed for your relatives...

Sorry to burst the *******s bubble, fed will not win the AO.

kobe3pointer
01-15-2009, 06:28 PM
Sorry to burst the *******s bubble, fed will not win the AO.

^^ says the person with the unbiased opinion... after looking at your pic do you think nadal will win it? lmao

tudwell
01-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Time for your family to have an intervention... you're having a bad trip...

After Marat got his face rearranged in Moscow he's lucky he's not eating through a straw...
I'm telling you, man. Safin d. Gasquet 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-2, 6-3 to win his third grand slam. After a five set semi with Nalbandian. You heard it here first.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Not a bad draw for Djokovic and Jankovic.

I wanted Djokovic in Nadal's half, but this is OK:
qualifier,
Chardy,
Mathieu/Dent/Neiminen,
Soderling/Fish/Baghdatis,
Roddick/Nalbandian
Federer

My only wish for Djokovic's draw this year is to avoid Nadal in RG SF.

Jankovic has a nice draw. Sugiyama in the 3rd, Bartoli/Szavay in 4th, Zvonareva/Petrova in the QF, Safina/Ivanovic in the SF.
Good draw until Roddick. I think he can take care of him faster than at USO (where he was kind of washed out from the Olympics), so he'll also have a better chance vs Fed in the semi.

Cyan
01-15-2009, 06:29 PM
kobe

I predicted in late 2007 that Fed would only win 1 slam in 2008... that was when *******s here were predicting the golden slam for fed in 2008. i was right. they were wrong.

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 06:31 PM
My prediction: Marat Safin beats Roger Federer in the 3rd round and subsequently wins his second Australian Open.
And pigs will be fluttering all over center court during the trophy ceremony:???:

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:32 PM
I'm telling you, man. Safin d. Gasquet 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-2, 6-3 to win his third grand slam. After a five set semi with Nalbandian. You heard it here first.You have a better chance of hearing your winning lottery numbers drawn while on a date with a supermodel and being simultaneously stung by killer bees and hit by lightning.... :)

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 06:32 PM
kobe

I predicted in late 2007 that Fed would only win 1 slam in 2008... that was when *******s here were predicting the golden slam for fed in 2008. i was right. they were wrong.
What are you predicting for 2009? (I'll take your word for it I promise :))

West Coast Ace
01-15-2009, 06:33 PM
I predicted in late 2007 that Fed would only win 1 slam in 2008... that was when *******s here were predicting the golden slam for fed in 2008. i was right. they were wrong.To quote Chris Rock: "Do you want a cookie?"

Cyan
01-15-2009, 06:35 PM
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=1872774#post1872774

nuff said.

kobe3pointer
01-15-2009, 06:37 PM
What are you predicting for 2009? (I'll take your word for it I promise :))

To answer your question you will get a biased answer when you look at his av.

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 06:39 PM
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=1872774#post1872774

nuff said.

You really want attention, eh?

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 06:39 PM
That. That's assuming he somehow gets past Nalbandian to even play Djokovic. And if he manages to get past Djokovic, he has to beat Federer. If he DOES beat Federer, then he has to either play Nadal/Murray/Whoever else wins the other side of the draw.
I really don't think Roddick could WIN the AO, that's a stretch, but stranger things have happened, his draw is OK until Djoko unless Nalby is on fire but Roddick can probably outserve him...

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 06:41 PM
To answer your question you will get a biased answer when you look at his av.
According to his/her avie that's the kind of bias I'm looking for :p (feel good bias!)

veritech
01-15-2009, 06:42 PM
kobe

I predicted in late 2007 that Fed would only win 1 slam in 2008... that was when *******s here were predicting the golden slam for fed in 2008. i was right. they were wrong.

lol who do you think you are, nostradamus? please tell me, when's the world gonna end? how's obama going to do?

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 06:44 PM
lol who do you think you are, nostradamus? please tell me, when's the world gonna end? how's obama going to do?
No, no, no not that tell me who's gonna win the AO!

marc45
01-15-2009, 06:49 PM
Cool.

And I'm sure the Murray camp feels about the same about his results...probably so, though his camp won't be playing him, just murray, and a murray that will be expected to win that match....something about a young, talented guy coming up behind another young, talented guy....i'd expect murray to handle the pressure, but we'll see if it happens

Gugafan
01-15-2009, 06:52 PM
Great opportunity for Monfils to make the quarters...He has the easiest section in the top half of the draw with only Simon a possible threat in the 4th rd.

Nightmare draw for Hewitt...with Gonzales, Gasquet and Nadal all possible matchups before the quarters.

marc45
01-15-2009, 06:54 PM
a war with simon though

veroniquem
01-15-2009, 07:00 PM
a war with simon though
How do you know? They've actually never met.

edberg505
01-15-2009, 07:01 PM
LOL, these responses are so predictable. Easy draw for Federer, blah, blah, blah. Last year people would yell bloody murder when Djokovic wasn't on Federer's side of the draw. Now people are yelling bloody murder now that Murray isn't on his side of the draw. What happened between now and last year? Have faith in Djokovic, he may still beat Federer. Here's what everyone really wants but are afraid to say it. Federer to play Murray so he can beat Federer and Nadal can in turn beat Murray in the final to win the AO title. There's no winning on this board. I bet if Murray shows up on Federer's side of the draw at the FO we'll see an uproar.

marc45
01-15-2009, 07:03 PM
How do you know? They've actually never met.

both very good movers, and tend to be grinders (despite monfils play against nadal in doha), and countrymen, pride.....feels like a brutal battle to me, we'll see

Tennis_Monk
01-15-2009, 07:30 PM
I'm telling you, man. Safin d. Gasquet 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-2, 6-3 to win his third grand slam. After a five set semi with Nalbandian. You heard it here first.

Not really. I have heard of wild predictions but this is really really really Wild.

In any case it aint happening. Aus open usually has a surprise package (Baghdatis,Gonzo, Tsonga, etc) and i hope that tradition continues this time..

gj011
01-15-2009, 07:41 PM
While we are at wild predictions, SFs without Nadal and Federer would be nice for a change.

Say Gasquet-Murray and Djokovic-DelPotro.

oneleggedcardinal
01-15-2009, 07:54 PM
While we are at wild predictions, SFs without Nadal and Federer would be nice for a change.

Say Gasquet-Murray and Djokovic-DelPotro.

Since I think Djokovic is going to be very motivated to keep his title and because Gasquet is one of my favorite players and because Murray is in good form, I like this wild prediction.

NamRanger
01-15-2009, 07:59 PM
I really don't think Roddick could WIN the AO, that's a stretch, but stranger things have happened, his draw is OK until Djoko unless Nalby is on fire but Roddick can probably outserve him...


Nalbandian is a terrible match-up, and Kohlschrieber beat Roddick here last year. Ferrero is no walk over, and Llorda could always outplay Roddick. Roddick definitely has the hardest draw out of the top 10.

zagor
01-16-2009, 05:06 AM
Just when I had you figured out you say something like this. :shock:

It's not that suprising if you have been paying attention to all NF's posts.As I've said before a few times,I really don't think he's as bad as much as he's getting the flak here.Yes some of his posts can be considered trolling but it's not like he doesn't make some good points as well and can be surprsingly objective at times.He's also a true fan of Nadal,I'd bet even if Nadal stopped winning anything he'd still be his fan and I personally respect that.

Even though I'm a big Fed fan NF never gets on my nerves or anything like that,not even when he's bashing Fed cause I always felt it was more due to retaliation for Fed fans bashing Nadal than some real hatred towards Fed from him(unlike some other posters who truly are distrubingly negative towards Fed,mostly some Sampras fans).He's okay in my book although most people here wil disagree with me on that.

Philcoa
01-27-2009, 07:12 PM
I don't understand why a draw is needed as it defeats the purpose of seeding. The object of seeding is to create a merit draw enabling the two players adjudged to be best to meet in the final and to avoid the rest of the top thirty-two players eliminating each other in the earlier rounds. In the round of thirty-two and assuming the seeds all win, number 1 should play number 32, number 2 should play number 31 and so on until number 16 plays number 17. The number 1 seed should play the first match of each round.

In this tournament, Nadal is nominally seeded number 1 but Federer is the actual number 1. Federer plays first and Federer will enjoy the resulting extra day of rest over Nadal. Also, Federer is drawn against weaker opposition than Nadal. For example, in the round of eight, Federer faced the number 8 seed while Nadal will play the number 6 seed.

Scrap the draw and stick with the seeding plan.

westside
01-27-2009, 07:32 PM
I don't understand why a draw is needed as it defeats the purpose of seeding. The object of seeding is to create a merit draw enabling the two players adjudged to be best to meet in the final and to avoid the rest of the top thirty-two players eliminating each other in the earlier rounds. In the round of thirty-two and assuming the seeds all win, number 1 should play number 32, number 2 should play number 31 and so on until number 16 plays number 17. The number 1 seed should play the first match of each round.

In this tournament, Nadal is nominally seeded number 1 but Federer is the actual number 1. Federer plays first and Federer will enjoy the resulting extra day of rest over Nadal. Also, Federer is drawn against weaker opposition than Nadal. For example, in the round of eight, Federer faced the number 8 seed while Nadal will play the number 6 seed.

Scrap the draw and stick with the seeding plan.

Well this is probably the most....interesting....thing i've read in a while.

You don't think that your theory would make it a tad predictable?