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bolo
01-17-2009, 04:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwQi90rRYmU

maybe the last 3 in the end.

S H O W S T O P P E R !
01-17-2009, 05:27 PM
I wouldn't fret over that. Maybe he was just practicing flatties.

tkauffm
01-17-2009, 05:34 PM
good lord, the sound his racket was making at contact was thunderous

babolat15
01-17-2009, 05:45 PM
^^^i know, maybe that extra time off did him some good

ryushen21
01-17-2009, 05:47 PM
Well, if you read the Time article, they did say that Uncle Tony was trying to make his forehand swing more "traditional" instead of him whipping the racquet around his head.

All the same though, it did look like he was probably just hitting a flatter forehand and it was just hitting around versus him hitting a full out forehand.

bolo
01-17-2009, 05:51 PM
good lord, the sound his racket was making at contact was thunderous

lol. Someone should send this video to murray so murray can analyze it and be very very afraid. :)

bolo
01-17-2009, 05:53 PM
Well, if you read the Time article, they did say that Uncle Tony was trying to make his forehand swing more "traditional" instead of him whipping the racquet around his head.

All the same though, it did look like he was probably just hitting a flatter forehand and it was just hitting around versus him hitting a full out forehand.

You are probably right. I am eager to see the tinkering take effect in a match. He will need it versus murray on the hard courts.

Clay lover
01-17-2009, 05:55 PM
Um, fact is, Nadal hits like that all the time in practice. To think that he hits reverse forehands in practice is ignorant to say the least.

bolo
01-17-2009, 05:58 PM
Um, fact is, Nadal hits like that all the time in practice. To think that he hits reverse forehands in practice is ignorant to say the least.

Like as in "that's just ignorant", lol.

babbette
01-17-2009, 06:35 PM
the article.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article5537167.ece
if it hasn't already been posted.

S H O W S T O P P E R !
01-17-2009, 06:44 PM
Well, if you read the Time article, they did say that Uncle Tony was trying to make his forehand swing more "traditional" instead of him whipping the racquet around his head.

All the same though, it did look like he was probably just hitting a flatter forehand and it was just hitting around versus him hitting a full out forehand.

WTH? Nike is making Nadal seem more traditional and now Toni? Why?! Nadal's style is extremrly unique, with his sleeveless and long shorts and his cowboy forehand. I'm sad.

seffina
01-17-2009, 06:51 PM
I know. Hopefully it doesn't backfire on them.

bolo
01-17-2009, 07:15 PM
I know. Hopefully it doesn't backfire on them.

If I understood it correctly in one of the recent interviews toni said they decided to go with the extremem topspin, reverse forehands because nadal was pressed for time, probably when he was transitioning to the pros. This fits with toni's other comment about nadal having been more aggressive when he was younger.

It seems like nadal is slowly transitioning back to his "normal" more aggressive state. It will be interesting to see what happens.

bolo
01-17-2009, 07:19 PM
WTH? Nike is making Nadal seem more traditional and now Toni? Why?! Nadal's style is extremrly unique, with his sleeveless and long shorts and his cowboy forehand. I'm sad.

I also like the the reverse forehands and the ridiculous dipping shots that find the baseline. But he is going to be even more explosive and have less trouble with nalbandian/davydenko type players on hard courts if he can flatten out his forehand.

Clay lover
01-17-2009, 08:05 PM
Young
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1jHJ3-fAY&feature=related

2006
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPlgtGro2c&feature=related

2007
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=um5c8OMol1M

2008
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=1bn2hKuRhQU&feature=related

Not much of a difference if you are looking for "flatter" forehands. He always used to drive his forehands like that in practice.

autumn_leaf
01-17-2009, 08:12 PM
the article.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article5537167.ece
if it hasn't already been posted.

ty for the article. can't believe he didn't have his body behind his shot. i can only imagine the power he'll have behind his shots if the more traditional style works for him.

Young
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1jHJ3-fAY&feature=related

2006
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPlgtGro2c&feature=related

2007
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=um5c8OMol1M

2008
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=1bn2hKuRhQU&feature=related

Not much of a difference if you are looking for "flatter" forehands. He always used to drive his forehands like that in practice.

thanks for the vids. guess we'll just have to wait a day or more to see for ourselves. can't wait!

obnoxious2
01-17-2009, 08:29 PM
Nadal has a much much flatter forehand his younger days. Somebody posted a vid of him playing Hewitt in 02 i believe and his forehand was AMAZING. He really rocketed the ball and it was on hardcourt.

autumn_leaf
01-17-2009, 08:39 PM
Nadal has a much much flatter forehand his younger days. Somebody posted a vid of him playing Hewitt in 02 i believe and his forehand was AMAZING. He really rocketed the ball and it was on hardcourt.

it begs the question: if it was so amazing why didn't he keep it?

bolo
01-18-2009, 08:44 AM
it begs the question: if it was so amazing why didn't he keep it?

That's a good question.

Even if you believe toni it's still not clear when he made the transition to the less aggressive/more spinny forheand. If you watch nadal's match against agassi in 2005, he has more or less the same forehand that he did in the last 2-3 years.

RCizzle65
01-18-2009, 08:54 AM
Young
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1jHJ3-fAY&feature=related

2006
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPlgtGro2c&feature=related

2007
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=um5c8OMol1M

2008
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=1bn2hKuRhQU&feature=related

Not much of a difference if you are looking for "flatter" forehands. He always used to drive his forehands like that in practice.

Watch his earlier matches, he hit the ball flat sometimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKNucTyEqIc&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AteGEVt0HJc&fmt=18

akybo
01-18-2009, 10:08 AM
The last pro I know who chaged his motion is Roddick.
Anyway,those flatter shots(although they are not so flat) I saw in the clips seem more dangerous on the hardcourts as his actual forehand.