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crazypro
01-28-2009, 12:50 PM
i dont get the motion for this serve. anyone have a video of pro or someone doing a decent topspin-slice serve??

wihamilton
01-28-2009, 12:56 PM
So a kick serve? We've got a few videos on the kick serve (http://www.fuzzyyellowballs.com/videos/index.php/list/960/Kick_Serve). Check them out and let me know if they help.

SystemicAnomaly
01-28-2009, 01:03 PM
Can you hit a slice serve? Most slice serves have some measure of topspin as well just as many topspin serves often have a slice component. For a relatively pure slice, a righty will brush the ball from (nearly) 9 to 3 o'clock. For the topspin-slice, you'll be brushing more like 8 to 2 o'clock or 7 to 1 o'clock. The toss or the contact point of the toss can differ a bit for each type of serve. Refer to the following for more hints:

OperationDoubles.com/spin_serve_tennis.htm (http://www.operationdoubles.com/spin_serve_tennis.htm)
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Nickk
01-28-2009, 01:21 PM
So a kick serve? We've got a few videos on the kick serve (http://www.fuzzyyellowballs.com/videos/index.php/list/960/Kick_Serve). Check them out and let me know if they help.

does your body remain somewhat closed(through impact) on a kick serve?

wihamilton
01-28-2009, 01:41 PM
Not really. You come around just like you would on any other serve. There is a little bit of difference but I don't think it's the best thing to focus on. If you look at Frank's flat and kick serves (http://www.fuzzyyellowballs.com/videos/index.php/list/981/High_Speed_Tennis_Serve_Videos) you'll notice that he's facing the net a little bit more on the flat serve. Again, only by a few degrees.

SystemicAnomaly
01-28-2009, 01:58 PM
does your body remain somewhat closed(through impact) on a kick serve?

I like to drive my chest upward somewhat more for the kick serves. This may cause a (little) bit of back arch and make the back shoulder come over the top a bit more than a flat or pure slice serve.

LeeD
01-30-2009, 03:58 PM
Lotsa confusion here....
Flat serve you hit behind the ball, like a powder charge in a bullet.
Slice serve you hit the outside SIDE of the ball, to impart....slice.
Topspin serve you hit the top of the ball, imparting topspin.
For the topspin slice, you hit the top but with a toss out to your hitting side.
For a kick, you brush UPWARDS with your racket, hitting the ball at a HIGHER ARC over the net with forward spin. For Twist, you toss behind your head towards the sideline, the the backboard behind you, hit upwards and impart a bounce the opposite of your slicing motion.

Bud
01-30-2009, 04:18 PM
TT should sticky an accurate depiction of the various types of serves.

We straighten them out... then someone re-asks the question and we get a bunch of answers that are all over the place, again.

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** A topspin or kick serve has a topspin component to it <---

Here are the variations:

An American Twist Serve is a topspin kick serve with a sidespin component that lands in the far corner serving from the ad side and near the tee serving from the deuce side. It takes off away from the receiver (reverses direction) after the topspin bounce (jumps away from its direction of travel).

A Topspin Slice Serve is also a type of kick serve... but it lands at a different location in the box than a twist serve. Landing in the opposite box location, it doesn't jump away from its direction of travel. It continues on the same path it's traveling after the topspin bounce.

A Topspin Serve, also a kick serve, incorporates heavy topspin and goes primarily in a forward direction with a high jump, after the bounce. Theoretically, it does not contain a sidespin component (although in reality it probably does to a tiny degree).