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jorel
01-29-2009, 06:36 AM
How much difference is there between the original version with the Rooster(nightingale) on the throat and the later versions with the R on the throat..

Anyone play with both versions and can comment on the differences? Thanks.

galain
02-07-2009, 12:41 AM
Jorel

there's no difference between the original grey and the next model - green. It was only a cosmetic change. The later versions that didn't feature the small fill in at the bottom of the throat shaft played a little differently - a little less stable and (I sear) some of them felt a touch stiffer than the earlier models (not that that would be difficult).

There was also a 200 series made for the Japanese market - one model of which featured the filled in throat and the others didn't. These were lighter, came in a range of colours (usually white, though) and to my mind, didn't play as well. A racquet as flexible as the f200 needs some heft to it otherwise it'll just be too flimsy.

plasma
02-07-2009, 01:56 AM
my Rozzy F 200 is so soft and fat she bends thru the air when you take her for a swing...I really miss my skinny Rozzy, a one of a kind micro thin made in usa mint Rozzy. You can see her on the wall in the background of this old flick...only flick I have of Her, my good buddy Bob who stole her away promised pics, I've never asked that of anything I've traded but this f200 graphite was that unique and beautiful....
http://i42.tinypic.com/mvhlxt.jpg
1907-1954 Abel Rossignol was a brilliant and passionate inventor and businessman who died broke and bankrupt.

galain
02-07-2009, 02:52 AM
Plasma - is your skinny Rossi the Graphite 200 (the wood one?). Nice stick but I'm a little afraid to use mine in case it snaps. Feels like it could go pretty easily.

plasma
02-07-2009, 10:01 AM
please post pics galian, I had never seen one before, phenomenal frame!!! yes, the f200 graphite, possibly best graphics ever, a visual masterpiece!

galain
02-07-2009, 12:14 PM
Whoa there muchacho! There's the f200 - (she who we know and love above all others) and around the same time was the Graphite 200 - which strangely enough, was a wooden frame with a graphite face. It was made in the US - unlike most of the others which were French in origin. It also has a cross section of 14mm - the thinnest I've ever come across.

Mate - i would be happy to post pics, but I moved countries last year and had to make a decision as to which frames to bring with me. Sadly, most of my collection is safe in my home country. I only brought the ones I play with.

galain
02-07-2009, 12:21 PM
hang on a minute.......

galain
02-07-2009, 12:29 PM
Not sure if these will work - these were taken a few years back and (once again), were not really of my entire Rossi collection.

What isn't here are my f300's, the f295, 290, 280 and 240, my white f230, the f100 (and my other grey 200's), the Diva, and, ummm, I'm sure I'm forgetting some because I have a hell of a lot of them!

You can see the white Japanese market f200's at the top of the first pic -one with the 'bottom bridge' and one without. Not a patch on the original.

Enjoy - I'm sad I don't have all of them with me, but I was overweight with baggage already! What can ya do?

oh - Plasma - the wooden Graphite 200 is 3rd pic down, second from the right.

http://tinypic.com/dyucs9.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dyugk9.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dyugza.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dyuhea.jpg

anirut
02-07-2009, 09:27 PM
Galain ... I'm salivating ...

plasma
02-07-2009, 10:25 PM
awesome collection, amazing, what is the racquet with the asymetrical crossbar, I am super jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

galain
02-08-2009, 01:38 AM
Ani my friend - I don't have them all with me. It's lonely without my babies!

Plasma - that would the 9R Power Blue - the tweener version of Yellow that TW is selling. It's not exactly a classic and I can't honestly even say if it was made by the same company that made the inverted bridged frames. I know the Rossignol name has been through a few hands since the glory days. There are other conventional shaped Rossi frames out there but I have no real interest in adding them to my collection.

_skunk_
02-08-2009, 04:14 AM
Rossignol i really would like they come back to businness.

These are the babies i've with me, it's missed a F230 and 2 grey F200 that I have in another house.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2366/pc250454dr5.jpg

vsbabolat
02-08-2009, 06:06 AM
The White Rossignol F200 was also sold in Europe. I had a friend who used the White F200 in those days.

plasma
02-08-2009, 10:04 AM
skunk, those are amazing!!!, could we see close ups of the throats on the ones on the left??? wow!
http://i40.tinypic.com/2rfdezb.jpg


too bad all racquets look the same these days...zzzzzzzzzzzz.....

_skunk_
02-14-2009, 10:23 AM
hi plasma, here some pics, of the beauty

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/186/p2140511yn3.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2140511yn3.jpg) http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/p2140511yn3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img27/p2140511yn3.jpg/1/)

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/743/p2140516kw3.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2140516kw3.jpg) http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/p2140516kw3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img187/p2140516kw3.jpg/1/)

_skunk_
02-14-2009, 10:24 AM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5150/p2140512nd8.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2140512nd8.jpg) http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/p2140512nd8.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img8/p2140512nd8.jpg/1/)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8647/p2140513fi6.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2140513fi6.jpg)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/p2140513fi6.jpg/1/w768.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img3/p2140513fi6.jpg/1/)

joe sch
02-15-2009, 06:39 AM
I owe alot to the rossi f200 !
When I finally got bad tennis elbow and shoulder problems from the modern rackets strung with pro blend, rather than giving up tennis, I played woodys and the rossi. After about 6 months, my arm was ok again and I treated myself to my old max 200g. This love affair is still ongoing now for almost 1 century. Every once in awhile, I will play a modern rackets for a short period of time, maybe week or so, and the elbow starts to hurt, so I just continue playing the old school graphites.

Cheers,
Joe

PSO67
02-15-2009, 01:07 PM
Have one that says FCX and looks exactly like the f200 except color which is green. Any info on this?

plasma
02-15-2009, 01:30 PM
not even the f250 comes close to the original IMHO...
http://i44.tinypic.com/2yla4xz.jpg

galain
02-15-2009, 11:47 PM
Have one that says FCX and looks exactly like the f200 except color which is green. Any info on this?

I've never had it confirmed, but i am almost positive the FCX is a paintjobbed R90 just aimed at a different market. From what I can tell on the court their pretty much the same stick.

plasma
02-15-2009, 11:56 PM
Skunk, those look more like amazing modern sculpture than a tennis racquet. I'm guessing that they're stiff because of the kevlar. I played the F250 as a kid for two years. Also a very stiff Rozzy...

_skunk_
02-16-2009, 06:14 AM
Skunk, those look more like amazing modern sculpture than a tennis racquet. I'm guessing that they're stiff because of the kevlar. I played the F250 as a kid for two years. Also a very stiff Rozzy...

They are for sure stiffer than the F200, but very soft compared to actual standards, the power is low, control is superb, I've would say they have a muted feeling, but this is just a personal opinion, the only way to make them work well was to play with low tensions (22 Kg) and multifilament strings.
This babies are too much "player racket" for me now, but time to time I like to use them again.

Dino Lagaffe
02-16-2009, 08:19 AM
When I measured my F250 on the RDC machine, these are the numbers I got:

Weight: 358 g / 12.63 oz
Flex: 60
SW: 349

Pretty nice racquet, but "stiff" compared to my other Rossignols...

plasma
02-16-2009, 11:35 AM
hybrid string tensions destroy rossignol playability. When my folks were alive they took me to Paris as a young kid. I was taken to a pro shop before heading back home....I had a choice between an f250 and an adidas gtx. The gtx had unusual unique graphics I had never seen before or since, amazing. I was insecure and intimidated so I went with the f250...I would never safinize a racquet, but would still love to safinize an f250 someday.
maybe this true tale is why there are now 10 gtx's in my closet, maybe I'm looking to hold onto more than just racquets here???
http://i42.tinypic.com/rcq5ab.jpg
Here's a photo of me using geomancy to attain spiritual enlightenment and yet another bumperless st.vincent....
it could be worse, imagine if I had an uncontrollable compulsive addiction to collect...spoons!
http://i43.tinypic.com/16jev7d.jpg
that could be a bit harder to explain to my non collecting friends...
Richard Bolt grew to become the greatest spoon collector/historian of our generation. With over 60,000 rare and unique spoons he is clearly the "king of the spoon world". Although he has no friends and is still a virgin, Mr. Bolt's dedication to spoons has proven a valuable sacrifice for spoon collectors everywhere...
http://i41.tinypic.com/2mn4vfc.jpg

galain
02-16-2009, 11:35 AM
Skunk, those look more like amazing modern sculpture than a tennis racquet. I'm guessing that they're stiff because of the kevlar. I played the F250 as a kid for two years. Also a very stiff Rozzy...

You know - if you look closely at some of the Rossignol line, you can see the innovations that some other companies love to crow about - but were already in Rossi's years before.

In Skunk's pictures of his Vectris, the triangular cross section of later Yonex's is all too apparent. In the FT and DT series, the tapered frame width (*cough* Babolat, Yonex, Prince et al cough*) is already there and working beautifully. The inverted bridge - keeping the mains all the one length for better control, was there in 1979! When did Yonex and Snauwaert come up with their versions?

I will remain forever saddened that Rossi never had the marketing money to back up their superb ideas. I wish they were still with us, I really do.

plasma
02-16-2009, 11:38 AM
I cried a silent tear when kniessl stopped making stick like racquets. Around the same time fischer gave up the superform and roxzzy gave up the inverted throat bridge....a true loss to those who really love great hitting!

khw72004
02-16-2009, 11:57 AM
There's alway the bay, where you can buy these classic frame. And its not like you want to buy new frames anyways Plasma. I think these companies that made these great playing classic frames ended at the right time. If they continued making rackets and their reputation would not be the same.

plasma
02-16-2009, 12:01 PM
i believe that the ps 85, superform xl, kneissl, 200g etc. are much better than what's currently out there....racquets today are so boring....big thumbs up to Radek Stephanek and his Bosworth International. He'll drag you into the deep water with that magic wand!!!

ilian
02-18-2009, 09:37 AM
i believe that the ps 85, superform xl, kneissl, 200g etc. are much better than what's currently out there....racquets today are so boring....big thumbs up to Radek Stephanek and his Bosworth International. He'll drag you into the deep water with that magic wand!!!

I agree with you 100%.

plasma
02-18-2009, 11:14 PM
I just saw Radek Stephanek win an entire tournament with a 10 sided Bosworth International. the whole time it looked like he was barely getting the ball back. Players would get dragged into the deep water and not know how they got there or why he won..???
try to understand...his experience makes him the magic man...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjgh-znxB4

kalic
06-02-2009, 01:13 AM
What's the headsize of F200 ???

plasma
06-02-2009, 05:21 AM
seems like a true mid. I'd like to try one out for a few months and test the spin potential. Not hoping for thunder on the serve but looking forward to much plough through and the symphony of feeling that comes with vintage Euro frames.

ipitythefool
06-03-2009, 03:38 PM
I just saw Radek Stephanek win an entire tournament with a 10 sided Bosworth International. the whole time it looked like he was barely getting the ball back. Players would get dragged into the deep water and not know how they got there or why he won..???
try to understand...his experience makes him the magic man...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjgh-znxB4

I love how the Euro chick pronounces "america" in the vid. So f'ing sexy.
Though considering this video being back from '76 -my birth year lol- this chick is probably a milf by now.

What wouldn't I give to live in Cisco and go to an art school back in the 70's! Just to hang out with them happy-go-lucky hippy art school chicks :-P
Ain't that so, plaz?

kalic
01-09-2010, 03:14 AM
seems like a true mid. I'd like to try one out for a few months and test the spin potential. Not hoping for thunder on the serve but looking forward to much plough through and the symphony of feeling that comes with vintage Euro frames.

Of course it's a mid, but what exactly (in square inches) ?
BTW I found one today, first version, good shape, for 5$ :) It realy feels like a wood...

Rock Strongo
01-09-2010, 09:07 AM
I would like to know the same thing about the headsize. I got a quite badly worn white version at a second-hand shop for 4$. You can actually feel the racquet bending when you hit your groundstrokes. However, if you mis-hit, it vibrates like a ladies' toy.... But it's good though(except for volleying).

Virginia
01-09-2010, 10:38 AM
The white version, though it looks nice, is lighter and not as robust as the usual grey version.

Rock Strongo
01-09-2010, 12:30 PM
The white version, though it looks nice, is lighter and not as robust as the usual grey version.


I vagely recall hitting with the grey version a couple of years ago, but not enough for me to remember (i was about 10 when i hit with it). How is it playing-wise compared to the white one, apart from the weight and the robustness?

And i don't really know if you can answer this, but i know that the white version is rare. How much do you think it's worth (if you're a Rossi expert and know anything about them:))

retrowagen
01-09-2010, 05:35 PM
The F200 was 20% larger than a standard-sized racquet; the F300 was 30% larger; the F100 was 10%, etc. ... For a while, the Rossignol model designations actually had some logic to them. So the F200 was roughly 82 sq-in.

jimbo333
01-09-2010, 05:59 PM
The F200 was 20% larger than a standard-sized racquet; the F300 was 30% larger; the F100 was 10%, etc. ... For a while, the Rossignol model designations actually had some logic to them. So the F200 was roughly 82 sq-in.

Well the F150 was certainly 15% stranger than standard:)

kalic
01-10-2010, 01:21 AM
The F200 was 20% larger than a standard-sized racquet; the F300 was 30% larger; the F100 was 10%, etc. ... For a while, the Rossignol model designations actually had some logic to them. So the F200 was roughly 82 sq-in.

That's what I call know knowledge :)
Thanks !

galain
01-10-2010, 01:40 AM
Jimbo - you can say that again. Weird little beast isn't she. Kind of like a Yonex sneaked out one night and produced this strange looking love child.

Rock - the original grey or the green that was the next paintjob are much more solid hits than the white F200. Same flex but a lot more weight. The whites aren't really worth that much, although I see there's some clown on a bay somewhere who thinks he's going to get upwards of $100 for his. I'm the freakiest of freaky Rossignol freaks - and I wouldn't pay that for a white F200.

jimbo333
01-10-2010, 06:36 AM
Yes that F150 is just weird:)

Someone was going to post photos of their F200's at some point but didn't in the end, I can't remember who it was!

I'm still confused, as I thought all the early ones were grey, I've never seen a green or blue one, and would like to see photos please:)

Dino Lagaffe
01-10-2010, 10:07 AM
Someone was going to post photos of their F200's at some point but didn't in the end, I can't remember who it was!

That may have been me... :oops:
I have a bunch of Rossignols, including the different colors of the F200 you mentioned. I'll see if I can get some pictures up later.

jimbo333
01-10-2010, 02:47 PM
That may have been me... :oops:
I have a bunch of Rossignols, including the different colors of the F200 you mentioned. I'll see if I can get some pictures up later.

Yes, it was you:)

Would really like to see the photos at some point please:)

jimbo333
01-11-2010, 12:53 PM
While I'm waiting for Dino's photos here are a couple:)

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u4hg6w.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/33wqnup.jpg

OK, the second isn't really an F200, it is a "Graphite 200" (a wood/graphite frame):)

jimbo333
01-11-2010, 01:06 PM
And one of the weirdest racquets ever made the F150:)

http://i49.tinypic.com/2s7udn4.jpg

jimbo333
01-11-2010, 04:02 PM
That may have been me... :oops:
I have a bunch of Rossignols, including the different colors of the F200 you mentioned. I'll see if I can get some pictures up later.

Thanks for your message, looking forward to seeing the photos:)

teachingprotx
01-11-2010, 05:38 PM
wow...is that a hot pink (hot lava) rossi f200? i thought i made out clean w my blue rossi's from Value City in 1992..ive since lost/traded/sold them but man i miss them:)

FedererClone
01-11-2010, 07:37 PM
I am becoming nostalgic reading this as I sell my F200 on the~bay; maybe time to lead it up and swing again? ...but surely it can't rival other frames for my 1HBH...this is a 2HBH icon stick, no?

jimbo333
01-12-2010, 03:28 AM
^^^^^ Yes, I think the F200 is best with a 2 Handed Backhand, that's why it never really suited me!

Oh and that F200 is actually red in real life, even though it looks pink in the photo, camera flash etc:)

Richie Rich
01-12-2010, 03:36 AM
my second graphite racquet was an f200. then i moved on the the f295. maybe i'll dig them out and look at them again for old time sake

petercoffey
01-12-2010, 09:01 PM
I just hit with my old one last week... how did I ever think I could swing a 4 5/8... nice stick though...still

retrowagen
01-13-2010, 07:07 PM
Here's my grey early version. I think this is the 2nd version, circa 1984 or so.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/retrowagen/Closet/f200_1.jpg

jimbo333
01-14-2010, 04:12 AM
^^^^ I thought that was the first version!

galain
01-14-2010, 05:44 AM
First version as far as I know - was released in '79. Before that.....the Johan Kriek model was the flagship (and that was just a repainted R40). The F100 and F200 came out together and shared the same paintjob - the F300 was also released at the same time.

Maybe CoachRick will see this and chime in - he has a lot of early Rossignol knowledge.

jimbo333
01-14-2010, 05:02 PM
First version as far as I know - was released in '79. Before that.....the Johan Kriek model was the flagship (and that was just a repainted R40). The F100 and F200 came out together and shared the same paintjob - the F300 was also released at the same time.

Maybe CoachRick will see this and chime in - he has a lot of early Rossignol knowledge.

Anyone have a photo of that first version then please?

Ripper014
01-14-2010, 05:23 PM
A friend of mine used this racket back in the day... a total controlled hitter with great touch, movement and court sense. He also had the best twist serve I have ever seen, unfortunately his back would not allow him to own that shot forever.

What surprised me was for a person that did not hit the ball hard (but had great depth), he broke several of these on a regular basis. They all seem to break at the same spot... at the 4:30 - 5:00 o'clock positon on the hoop.

galain
01-14-2010, 10:22 PM
I had one break on me at 11 o'clock. That and the Mag Pro are the only frames I've had that actually broke during play. Sad days! Luckily I still have plenty in reserve.

Jimbo - the grey one posted is the one I was referring to as what I thought was the original. I'm hoping Coach Rick will jump in if he sees this thread. He was Rossignol salesman back in the early days.

Dino Lagaffe
01-16-2010, 10:15 AM
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN1005.jpg
F200 (White)

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN1007.jpg
F200 (Mats Wilander)

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN0989.jpg
F200 (Blue)

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN0988.jpg
F200 (Green)

Dino Lagaffe
01-16-2010, 10:22 AM
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN0982.jpg
3 F200s and 1 F150

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN0999.jpg
FGC

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/Rossignol/DSCN1008.jpg
FCX

jimbo333
01-16-2010, 10:56 AM
Dino, absolutely superb racquets and photos:)

I havn't seen most of these before!

Interestingly the blue and green ones are the same as my red version (only different colour obviously), so I guess they came out at the same time?

Dino Lagaffe
01-16-2010, 11:23 AM
Thanks Jimbo! I'll probably start a new thread where I'll post pictures of some other Rossignols.

About the blue and green one, you're probably right. What is the finish on the red one, btw? The green one is glossy and the blue one is more rubbery/matte.

jimbo333
01-16-2010, 11:56 AM
The Red one definitely has a glossy finish:)

jimbo333
01-18-2010, 04:01 AM
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/DSCN0999.jpg
FGC

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy282/dinolagaffe/DSCN1008.jpg
FCX

Are these 2 basically F200's with different names?

Really great looking racquets:)

galain
01-18-2010, 12:22 PM
No Jimbo - they're both different. Have to admit, I haven't seen the FGC before. The FCX is a cheaper model that (I'm almost 100% sure) was sold in some markets as the R90. It could be that the FCG is the same kind of deal? Perhaps Dino can give us an idea of how they play?

I know for myself, my FCX's and R90's feel the same - I'd have a hard time identifying them if I was blindfolded. They're perhaps even slightly softer than the F200, definitely lighter, and as a result, not nearly as stable. I have mine leaded up and they play nicely for me, but I've spent a lot of time with them too. You really can't get away with that much flex in a stick if you don't make it reasonably hefty.

Dino Lagaffe
01-19-2010, 02:31 PM
Rossignol FGC
Weight: 361/12.73
Flex: 31
SW: 343

The FGC is a fabulous racquet, one of my all time favorites, and I have played with it quite a lot. Obviously it's quite hefty, but it's still rather maneuverable at 343 SW. Groundstrokes are great, provided you can supply and sustain a good racquet speed. Serves are not its forte, but that may partly be my fault too... I actually prefer the FGC over any of my F200s.

Galain, and other potentially interested people, I'd gladly go into greater detail later, but will leave it at this now. BTW, I've only played with the FCX once, and wasn't particularly fond of it, but that may have been due to the strings or a bad day in general.

dataseviltwin
01-25-2010, 07:54 AM
Holy Inverted Bridges, Batman! What a collection of Rossignols! :)

Dino Lagaffe
01-27-2010, 10:15 AM
Holy Inverted Bridges, Batman! What a collection of Rossignols! :)

I do like my Rossignols... I'll probably post pics of other racquets in my collection later.

Sidd Finch
02-19-2010, 12:19 PM
Dino....great stuff!! Bring back the inverted bridge dammit!! Those were great frames.

Dino Lagaffe
02-20-2010, 10:36 PM
Dino....great stuff!! Bring back the inverted bridge dammit!! Those were great frames.

Thanks Sidd. Couldn't agree more... :)

coachrick
02-21-2010, 12:57 PM
I had one break on me at 11 o'clock. That and the Mag Pro are the only frames I've had that actually broke during play. Sad days! Luckily I still have plenty in reserve.

Jimbo - the grey one posted is the one I was referring to as what I thought was the original. I'm hoping Coach Rick will jump in if he sees this thread. He was Rossignol salesman back in the early days.

The rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated! I just don't check in on the F200 threads too often.

Let's see...the 100 and 200 were in proto form summer of '79, released shortly after. No 300 in the States that year(at least not officially). Same construction for the two models.

Before that, the R 40 and RT were the most 'techy' frames...and that 'box' construction(Head Arthur Ashe Comp) had been around for 10 years or so...still hanging on in the snow ski industry as well.

Rossi was a limited distribution line in the US early on, much like the ski side of the company, trying to cultivate 'pro shop' type dealers when possible and offering some price 'protection' by not selling to every retailer in town. The hottest selling wood frame was the Strato(former Garcia 240), a direct competitor to the Kramer Autograph. The Kramer was the 'price benchmark' racket for many folks and often was used to promote a 'lower price' image because of its popularity. As such, a pro shop could sell the lower cost Strata at the same retail price as the Kramer and make a couple more bucks OR play off the 'exclusive' image for a while and command a higher price and more margin.

The RT and R40 really weren't anything special...Head and Yamaha had used the technology for years...but along came the F-Series. Inverted bridge(didn't fit on many of the popular machines of the day) was the 'hook'. Fairly interesting concept(main strings of a consistent length) but perhaps not the best execution. The throat 'attachment' was a particularly weak area as were the 'corners' (much like Yonex of the early-mid-80s) of the face. Also, there was a significant problem with the strings pulling through the frame in various spots. The higher tensions and popular Kevlar-based strings of the time didn't help any, either.

Rossignol tried to capitalize on their fairly loyal dealer base by introducing a new frame whether it was needed or not...hence, the plethora of F series iterations. 150, 300, colors, carbon, no carbon, yada yada. They also made gad-awful frames like the Touch(aluminum with NO touch :) ).


The Rossi Team...Kriek, Clerc, Wilkinson, et al, was an interesting idea. My guess is that if Wilander hadn't been so successful at the time, Rossignol wouldn't have held on as long as it did. The ski and tennis shops could depend on the brand name to carry from one sport to the other but there really were dealers in the southern US that thought Rossignol was a brand of sausage :) !

coachrick
02-21-2010, 01:03 PM
Thanks Sidd. Couldn't agree more... :)


Given the advances in frame materials and more adaptable stringing machines, a current 'technology' of the inverted bridge might be something to 'hit' on. :) Heck, the patent must have run its course, why don't one of you guys start a line of inverted bridge rackets!!!

Wait...I know !!! How about a Chris Star racket WITH an inverted bridge!?!?! TW...are you listening!?!?! :)

Dino Lagaffe
02-21-2010, 01:10 PM
Wait...I know !!! How about a Chris Star racket WITH an inverted bridge!?!?! TW...are you listening!?!?! :)

Add the Lacoste rubber thing under the grip and I'm in... ;)

ilian
01-11-2012, 07:11 AM
After all the praise I have seen about this frame here and the fact that my first coach back in '86 told me it was the best, I purchased one on the big auction site! Can't wait to hit with it... :)

Dino Lagaffe
01-12-2012, 04:01 AM
After all the praise I have seen about this frame here and the fact that my first coach back in '86 told me it was the best, I purchased one on the big auction site! Can't wait to hit with it... :)


Good luck, and remember to post back with your comments. :)

jorel
01-12-2012, 05:48 AM
wow ..a resurrected 3 yr thread..maybe i am doing some good here:)

TCTEN
01-12-2012, 06:48 AM
wow ..a resurrected 3 yr thread..maybe i am doing some good here:)

It goes to show that the classics (such as the F200) are timeless.

6-2/6-4/6-0
01-12-2012, 04:34 PM
I was out playing the other day and just got a pair of F200s restrung with Pacific Classic. There is nothing like a well-struck groundstroke with those frames. You can bend the ball like a footballer making a corner kick with it. The biggest problem that I have is when I pull my slice backhand across my body and sometimes the ball will curl between 2 or more in flight and land out of the court...

The control you get out of that stick, and the ability to swing out and still land the ball inside the baseline even with a fairly flat ball is unbelievable.

I'd love to get the weighting sorted out so that I can serve and volley a bit better with it, but I have to believe that doing so is something that I can sort that with a little effort.

At the moment I have 4 of these in a bag, a 5th is on the way and should be here tomorrow. Thinking about trying to amass 6 of them and putting together a full tournament bag and playing them next year... Just have to see...

kwantam
01-13-2012, 09:28 AM
Bought an F250 recently just for kicks. What a hoot to hit with!

Roadway
01-13-2012, 05:24 PM
I feel the sweet spot of this kind of inverted-bridge racquet is somewhat higher (ie. middle and upper area) than that of traditional racquet (ie. middle and lower area).

ilian
02-09-2012, 05:33 PM
Good luck, and remember to post back with your comments. :)

Okay, I got the racquet a couple of days ago, but never had a chance to hit with it yet, apart from hitting against the back board for a little bit. The frame feels very solid and flexible and I hope that it won't dissappoint me on the court either... :)

6-2/6-4/6-0
02-10-2012, 06:19 PM
I like to use the frame with a good gut string to get the power level up a bit. That seems to be the thing with older, more flexible rackets, they are really rewarding if you have good technique and they let you make the most of a nice powerful gut string. I have been using the F200 almost all of the time lately. Sure, I love my Max200Gs, but off the ground (and when you really get ahold of a serve) the F200 is much more versatile. The biggest thing that I wish I could sort out is the volley with the F200, I seem to have issues with getting a really precise direction with them, so I'm always playing extra conservative when I head up to the net. It really makes me want to find some F250s or the other stiffer rackets from Rossignol to see if/how that helps...

Pepecom
07-24-2014, 06:19 PM
Hi,
walking in Barcelona last week I found a sport store about to close. The manager told me that he was about to retire and close business, I as him if he had some sticks to sell... he goes inside and come back with a set of brand new Rossignol rackets F200's, F230's and F295's several grip sizes available. What a surprise after months of surfing on the net looking for those rackets.
Got a F200 burgundy, F200 blue, F295 blue and as an extra prize a Prince Response 110 one of the rackets that made me love this sport al for 100 euros.
I left some others there but very happy for my hunt.

regards

joe sch
07-25-2014, 05:33 AM
I like to use the frame with a good gut string to get the power level up a bit. That seems to be the thing with older, more flexible rackets, they are really rewarding if you have good technique and they let you make the most of a nice powerful gut string. I have been using the F200 almost all of the time lately. Sure, I love my Max200Gs, but off the ground (and when you really get ahold of a serve) the F200 is much more versatile. The biggest thing that I wish I could sort out is the volley with the F200, I seem to have issues with getting a really precise direction with them, so I'm always playing extra conservative when I head up to the net. It really makes me want to find some F250s or the other stiffer rackets from Rossignol to see if/how that helps...

The dynamic stiffness from the grafil injection is what also makes the max 200g superb on volleys compared to the other old school very flexible rackets. Stiff for punch volleys and Flexible for longer classic strokes.