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Fedace
01-29-2009, 05:47 AM
National team indoors starts on Feb 13th in chicago. Only The Elite teams in Division 1 will be invited to play. Ohio State, Stanford, and Virginia etc. Stanford will of course be there. I am thinking about flying out there to see the event since i have relatives there. Anyone else going ? and which team is your pick to win ? I couldn't get all the teams in the poll. I you feel someone other than the team in the poll, please write them in. thanks.

kctennis1005
01-29-2009, 07:03 AM
National team indoors starts on Feb 13th in chicago. Only The Elite teams in Division 1 will be invited to play. Ohio State, Stanford, and Virginia etc. Stanford will of course be there. I am thinking about flying out there to see the event since i have relatives there. Anyone else going ? and which team is your pick to win ? I couldn't get all the teams in the poll. I you feel someone other than the team in the poll, please write them in. thanks.

i think usc has a good chance.....couple of big hitters on their team whose game will be suited toward indoor tennis.

OleNole
01-29-2009, 07:30 AM
Does anyone know who's playing? I couldn't find it at the website. Without knowing the draws, I'd say look out for Ohio State, Ole Miss and Virginia.

Fedace
01-29-2009, 07:47 AM
i think usc has a good chance.....couple of big hitters on their team whose game will be suited toward indoor tennis.

I am not sure yet if USC will be there. www.itatennis.com should have the draw out in 1 week or so.

kctennis1005
01-29-2009, 07:52 AM
I am not sure yet if USC will be there. www.itatennis.com should have the draw out in 1 week or so.

usc will be there....check their schedule on their website

ohplease
01-29-2009, 08:02 AM
I've been to this event. It's AWESOME. Viewing distance is very short, and you're looking at crazy levels of talent. I got to see Amer Delic play when he was with the Illini from courtside.

JLyon
01-29-2009, 09:01 AM
there is a regional this year so the only Team for sure in is the Host school.

atatu
01-29-2009, 11:23 AM
Texas is ranked #2 in the country, any reason why you did not include them in the poll ? I'm not a big UT fan, but I'm curious....

ihearit1st
01-29-2009, 11:55 AM
Texas is ranked #2 in the country, any reason why you did not include them in the poll ? I'm not a big UT fan, but I'm curious....

I would still include them as contenders. But they don't train a lot indoors. So a team like OSU that is there 75% of the year will have an advantage. After OSU, the next team that trains mostly indoors is Illinois @ #15. Outside, it could be anyone's ballgame as the #2-14 schools train mostly outdoors.

eeytennis
01-29-2009, 02:14 PM
I would still include them as contenders. But they don't train a lot indoors. So a team like OSU that is there 75% of the year will have an advantage. After OSU, the next team that trains mostly indoors is Illinois @ #15. Outside, it could be anyone's ballgame as the #2-14 schools train mostly outdoors.

You may make a good point, but I know that after training outside for 5-6 months, I still love going indoors to play...training outside doesn't affect my play at all...

OleNole
01-30-2009, 11:00 AM
http://www.itatennis.com/Events/Kick-OffWeekend.htm

Here's the link to what the ITA is calling the Kick-Off Weekend- basically it's two play-in rounds. The winner of each 4 team bracket advances to the Indoor Championships.
Looking at the rosters, you've got to think UCLA and Ohio State are the overwhelming favorites.

pandal3oy
01-30-2009, 11:15 AM
wow cool i guess i might go see it at midtown since i moved up here already haha.

reesespiecestennis
01-30-2009, 04:09 PM
I don't even see why U Illionois is even in this poll they were beat by UVA pretty bad. I would probably vote for Georgia or Ohio State, even though Virginia was very solid when I saw them

ttbrowne
01-30-2009, 06:33 PM
Yes, Tulsa gets started this weekend by hosting LSU, Texas Tech and Notre Dame!
Plan on seeing some of it at the beautlful Case Tennis Center.
GO TU!

Fedace
01-31-2009, 03:22 AM
Yes, Tulsa gets started this weekend by hosting LSU, Texas Tech and Notre Dame!
Plan on seeing some of it at the beautlful Case Tennis Center.
GO TU!

tt, do you know if they are going to LIVE webcast this with their webcam ? they have a decent setup as well, kind of similar to Stanford.

ClarkC
01-31-2009, 06:33 PM
Ohio State, Virginia, Texas, and UCLA have to be the favorites at this point.

Fedace
02-01-2009, 02:55 AM
Results from yesterday's qualies. Looks like Stanford is becoming the favorite to win the ITA indoors.

#11 Stanford University 6, #26 Boise State University 1
Jan 31, 2009 at Boise, ID

Singles competition
1. #33 Alex Clayton (STAN) def. #22 Clancy Shields (BSU) 7-5, 6-7, 10-5
2. #90 Kean Feeder (BSU) def. Ryan Thacher (STAN) 7-6, 4-6, 10-6
3. Matt Bruch (STAN) def. Cristian Hodel (BSU) 6-2, 6-2
4. #62 Richard Wire (STAN) def. James Meredith (BSU) 6-2, 3-6, 7-5
5. Blake Muller (STAN) def. #85 Stanley Sarapanich (BSU) 6-3, 6-2
6. Gregory Hirshman (STAN) def. Blane Shields (BSU) 6-1, 6-1



Doubles competition
1. Kean Feeder/James Meredith (BSU) def. Richard Wire/Blake Muller (STAN) 8-5
2. Matt Bruch/Ryan Thacher (STAN) def. Clancy Shields/Stanley Sarapanich (BSU) 9-8 (7-2)
3. Alex Clayton/Bradley Klahn (STAN) def. Blane Shields/Matt Solomon (BSU) 7-3



Match Notes
Stanford University 3-0; National ranking #11
Boise State University 3-2; National ranking #26
Order of finish: Doubles (3,1,2); Singles (3,6,5,4,2,1)
T-4:00 A-405

ihearit1st
02-01-2009, 03:46 AM
Results from yesterday's qualies. Looks like Stanford is becoming the favorite to win the ITA indoors.

#11 Stanford University 6, #26 Boise State University 1
Jan 31, 2009 at Boise, ID

Singles competition
1. #33 Alex Clayton (STAN) def. #22 Clancy Shields (BSU) 7-5, 6-7, 10-5
2. #90 Kean Feeder (BSU) def. Ryan Thacher (STAN) 7-6, 4-6, 10-6
3. Matt Bruch (STAN) def. Cristian Hodel (BSU) 6-2, 6-2
4. #62 Richard Wire (STAN) def. James Meredith (BSU) 6-2, 3-6, 7-5
5. Blake Muller (STAN) def. #85 Stanley Sarapanich (BSU) 6-3, 6-2
6. Gregory Hirshman (STAN) def. Blane Shields (BSU) 6-1, 6-1



Doubles competition
1. Kean Feeder/James Meredith (BSU) def. Richard Wire/Blake Muller (STAN) 8-5
2. Matt Bruch/Ryan Thacher (STAN) def. Clancy Shields/Stanley Sarapanich (BSU) 9-8 (7-2)
3. Alex Clayton/Bradley Klahn (STAN) def. Blane Shields/Matt Solomon (BSU) 7-3



Match Notes
Stanford University 3-0; National ranking #11
Boise State University 3-2; National ranking #26
Order of finish: Doubles (3,1,2); Singles (3,6,5,4,2,1)
T-4:00 A-405

That's weird. I don't remember anyone else thinking that. Come to think of it, Ohio State did even better this weekend.

No. 1 Ohio State 7, No. 64 Stetson 0
Jan 31, 2009 at Columbus, Ohio
The Ohio State University Varsity Indoor Tennis Center

Singles
1. No. 1 Bryan Koniecko (OSU) def. Filip Kricka (SU) 7-6 (7-2), 6-3
2. No. 6 Justin Kronauge (OSU) def. Mark Mestan (SU)- 6-2, 6-4
3. No. 3 Steven Moneke (OSU) def. Njal Stene (SU) 6-3, 6-1
4. No. 38 Balazs Novak (OSU) def. Cesare Gallo (SU) 6-2, 6-1
5. No. 77 Shuhei Uzawa (OSU) def. Maksim Levanovich (SU) 6-4, 3-6, 1-0 (10-6)
6. Matt Allare (OSU) def. Chris Swanteson (SU) 6-2, 7-5
Order of Finish: 6, 3, 2, 4, 1, 5

Doubles
1. Bryan Koniecko/Steven Moneke (OSU) def. Filip Kricka/Maksim Levanovich (SU) 8-0
2. Matt Allare/Justin Kronauge (OSU) def. Mark Mestan/Cesare Gallo (SU) 8-1
3. No. 41 Mike O'Connell/Balazs Novak (OSU) vs. Njal Stene/Chris Swanteson DNF

ANd actually, UVA did even better than that.

No. 5 Virginia 7, No. 39 East Tennessee State 0

Doubles
1. #3 Singh/Barrick (UVa) def. Oliveras/Ahlgren (ETSU) 8-4
2. #27 Inglot/Shabaz (UVa) def. Bottoni/Teraz (ETSU) 8-4
3. Courtney/Singer (UVa) vs. Akser/Izasa (ETSU) 7-7 DNF

Singles
1. #43 Dominic Inglot (UVa) def. #9 Enrique Oliveras (ETSU) 6-3, 6-4
2. #24 Sanam Singh (UVa) def. Charles Bottoni (ETSU) 7-5, 6-4
3. #11 Michael Shabaz (UVa) def. Grega Teraz (ETSU) 6-2, 6-4
4. #68 Houston Barrick (UVa) def. Alex Ahlgren (ETSU) 6-1, 6-3
5. Steven Eelkman Rooda (UVa) def. Sander Gille (ETSU) 6-7(3), 6-4, 10-4
6. #108 Drew Courtney (UVa) def. Daniel Isaza (ETSU) 6-2, 6-0

NickC
02-01-2009, 09:18 AM
Results from yesterday's qualies. Looks like Stanford is becoming the favorite to win the ITA indoors.

#11 Stanford University 6, #26 Boise State University 1
Jan 31, 2009 at Boise, ID

Singles competition
1. #33 Alex Clayton (STAN) def. #22 Clancy Shields (BSU) 7-5, 6-7, 10-5
2. #90 Kean Feeder (BSU) def. Ryan Thacher (STAN) 7-6, 4-6, 10-6
3. Matt Bruch (STAN) def. Cristian Hodel (BSU) 6-2, 6-2
4. #62 Richard Wire (STAN) def. James Meredith (BSU) 6-2, 3-6, 7-5
5. Blake Muller (STAN) def. #85 Stanley Sarapanich (BSU) 6-3, 6-2
6. Gregory Hirshman (STAN) def. Blane Shields (BSU) 6-1, 6-1



Doubles competition
1. Kean Feeder/James Meredith (BSU) def. Richard Wire/Blake Muller (STAN) 8-5
2. Matt Bruch/Ryan Thacher (STAN) def. Clancy Shields/Stanley Sarapanich (BSU) 9-8 (7-2)
3. Alex Clayton/Bradley Klahn (STAN) def. Blane Shields/Matt Solomon (BSU) 7-3



Match Notes
Stanford University 3-0; National ranking #11
Boise State University 3-2; National ranking #26
Order of finish: Doubles (3,1,2); Singles (3,6,5,4,2,1)
T-4:00 A-405



So they win ONE match, are only 3-0 in dual meets, aren't ranked in the top 10, and somehow, in your deluded mind, are favorites to win a tournament that includes every single team ranked higher than they are? Where the hell is your logic?

OleNole
02-01-2009, 10:40 AM
Nice wins for Dom Inglot over Olivares of Middle Tennessee State and Matt Bruch at number 3 against Boise State. If he can get back up to the level he was at his sophomore year, and his recent results suggest that he's on his way there, Stanford should indeed challenge for the PAC 10 and national championships.

Did anyone go see any of the regional matches live? If so, could we get a report?

OleNole
02-01-2009, 10:41 AM
By the way, how does Illinois have 3 votes in the poll?

socaltennnis
02-01-2009, 03:01 PM
Results from yesterday's qualies. Looks like Stanford is becoming the favorite to win the ITA indoors.


why? how?

10 char

Fedace
02-01-2009, 04:22 PM
why? how?

10 char

Complete domination of very good team, Boise State. that is how. and Now Stanford is IN. It is going to be fun times in Chicago. some real interesting players will be there. Serve and Volleyer, JP Smith will be there with Tennessee. and Jason Jung, California boy himself will be there with Michigan team from big 10. It is going to great Tennis.:):)

Fedace
02-01-2009, 04:32 PM
Stanford Qualifies for the ITA indoors.

#11 Stanford University 5, #31 Auburn University 2
Feb 01, 2009 at Boise, Idaho

Singles competition
1. #33 Alex Clayton (STAN) def. #48 Alexey Tsyrenov (AU) 0-6, 7-6, 6-0
2. Tim Puetz (AU) def. Ryan Thacher (STAN) 6-2, 6-3
3. Matt Bruch (STAN) def. Lukas Marsoun (AU) 6-2, 6-4
4. #62 Richard Wire (STAN) def. Alex Stamchev (AU) 6-4, 6-4
5. Blake Muller (STAN) def. Milan Krnjetin (AU) 7-6, 6-4
6. Gregory Hirshman (STAN) def. Alex Petropoulos (AU) 6-2, 6-3



Doubles competition
1. #10 Alexey Tsyrenov/Tim Puetz (AU) def. Richard Wire/Blake Muller (STAN) 8-3
2. #19 Lukas Marsoun/Alex Stamchev (AU) def. Ryan Thacher/Matt Bruch (STAN) 8-5
3. Alex Clayton/Ted Kelly (STAN) def. Milan Krnjetin/Alex Petropoulos (AU) 8-2

kctennis1005
02-01-2009, 04:53 PM
fedace, whats happening to your boy thacher? lost both matches in ITA Qualies....also why isnt klahn in the roster?

Fedace
02-01-2009, 04:55 PM
Klahn- Injury. Thacher, who knows ? freshmen jitters ??? but i think once he gets rolling, he will be one of the top 5 players in Division 1.

jaggy
02-01-2009, 05:24 PM
So at VA the national rankings mean what exactly?

kctennis1005
02-01-2009, 05:29 PM
Klahn- Injury. Thacher, who knows ? freshmen jitters ??? but i think once he gets rolling, he will be one of the top 5 players in Division 1.

considering hes losing easily to unranked players i highly doubt that....how is klahn injured?

atatu
02-01-2009, 05:39 PM
Texas qualified as well, beating TCU 4-1, but there were some very tough matches going on out there today. However, the UT #1, Dimitar Kutrovsky, was just sick, he won 60, 60 in about 35 minutes.

Fedace
02-01-2009, 06:15 PM
^^Is Dimitar any good ??

ClarkC
02-01-2009, 06:18 PM
So at VA the national rankings mean what exactly?

I have no idea what you are asking. Try again.

ClarkC
02-01-2009, 06:19 PM
Stanford seems to be struggling in doubles. Some improvement is needed to win national titles.

NickC
02-01-2009, 07:11 PM
Complete domination of very good team, Boise State. that is how. and Now Stanford is IN. It is going to be fun times in Chicago. some real interesting players will be there. Serve and Volleyer, JP Smith will be there with Tennessee. and Jason Jung, California boy himself will be there with Michigan team from big 10. It is going to great Tennis.:):)

So what if they're in the tournament? That doesn't mean that they've got it in the bag, it means that they're one of the teams participating. You specifically said earlier that "Standford" was the favorite, despite not even being ranked in the top 10, and you say that they're the favorites because they beat a team that was ranked considerably lower than "Standford" (and whose highest ranked player is #33), yet that team still took a point and then some off "Standford". 6-1 isn't domination, 7-0 is. 6-1 means that someone had a good match and is capable of taking it to a big name in college tennis. Nothing more, nothing less.

Wherever your brain went, I suggest you find it and put it back into your head, as you're currently demonstrating that you clearly lack one at the moment.

Fedace
02-01-2009, 07:14 PM
Stanford will be in the Finals of ITA team Indoors in 2 weeks, mark my words..they have more talent than any other team.

kctennis1005
02-01-2009, 07:19 PM
Stanford will be in the Finals of ITA team Indoors in 2 weeks, mark my words..they have more talent than any other team.

more talent...yes, but what can they do with that talent...if they used it correctly they would be ranked much higher....right now theyre not utilizing their talent so thats why theyre ranked 13

ttbrowne
02-02-2009, 04:56 PM
Tulsa Wins!

The 12th-ranked Tulsa men's tennis team used four critical singles victories to capture a 4-2 win over No. 16 LSU on Sunday afternoon at the Michael D. Case Tennis Center. The Hurricane (7-1) advances to the round of 16 of the ITA National Team Indoor Championships for the first time since 2004.
Tulsa was clinging to a 3-2 lead when senior Ross Cunningham fired a cross-court, forehand winner against Mark Bowtell in the third set of No. 6 singles to seal the Tulsa win. Cunningham defeated Bowtell 6-4, 5-7, 6-3, in the final match of the day.

The Hurricane fell down 1-0 after losing their first doubles point of the season. Michael Venus and Neal Skupski climbed out of a 6-4 hole to defeat fourth-ranked Arnau Brugues and Philip Stephens, 8-6, in No. 1 doubles, and Marko Ballok and Ross Cunningham lost a tough 9-7 decision to Mark Bowtell and James Cluskey in the No. 2 position. Alberto Sottocorno and Ashley Watling picked up Tulsa's lone doubles win with an 8-3 decision over Sebastian Carlsson and Jonathan Tragardh.

Tulsa bounced back and claimed three straight singles points from Arnau Brugues in the No. 1 position, Victor Kolik in the No. 2 spot and Philip Stephens in No. 3 singles to take a 3-1 lead. Arnau Brugues, ranked No. 10 in the nation, used a combination of powerful serves and precise groundstrokes to breeze past second-ranked Michael Venus, 6-1, 6-1.

My words: Wow! Arnau was brutal.

The Wreck
02-02-2009, 06:08 PM
I was at the UGA match this weekend, and it was great. Washington definetly came out and played tougher than anyone thought they would, but Georgia still pulled it out.

If I based their performance soley on what I saw Sunday, I wouldn't give them much of a chance of winning, but Jamie Hunt was hurt. He and Schnugg are a great doubles team, and Hunt is strong singles player, assuming he recovers fully in the next two weeks. Georgia may not have the most talent, but they definetly have the most fight. GO DAWGS!

ClarkC
02-02-2009, 08:16 PM
If the rankings stay as they are, then #12 Tulsa will meet my #5 Virginia boys in the first round. I think Tulsa will be a serious underdog in that one.

socaltennnis
02-03-2009, 12:26 AM
I would like to point out that illinois men's did not even participate in the kick off weekend. this has been another example where fedace makes an incorrect post which will only confuse people when they wonder why Illinois didn't advance into the main draw.

Fedace
02-03-2009, 04:22 AM
I would like to point out that illinois men's did not even participate in the kick off weekend. this has been another example where fedace makes an incorrect post which will only confuse people when they wonder why Illinois didn't advance into the main draw.

Illinois is hosting this event.:)

Fedace
02-03-2009, 04:23 AM
If the rankings stay as they are, then #12 Tulsa will meet my #5 Virginia boys in the first round. I think Tulsa will be a serious underdog in that one.

who will Stanford play in the 1st round, do you think?

Fedace
02-03-2009, 05:34 AM
I would like to point out that illinois men's did not even participate in the kick off weekend. this has been another example where fedace makes an incorrect post which will only confuse people when they wonder why Illinois didn't advance into the main draw.

Here is the field for 2009.

This year the men's field will include:

Florida
Georgia
Baylor
Virginia
Texas
Ohio State
Mississippi
Tennessee
Tulsa
Pepperdine
UCLA
USC
Stanford
Florida State
Michigan
Illinois (host)

http://tenniskalamazoo.blogspot.com/2009/02/fields-complete-for-ita-team-indoor.html

ClarkC
02-03-2009, 07:18 AM
who will Stanford play in the 1st round, do you think?

If they line up 11 vs. 6, as expected, it would be a Pac-10 showdown vs. USC.

Fedace
02-03-2009, 07:59 AM
If they line up 11 vs. 6, as expected, it would be a Pac-10 showdown vs. USC.

USC will go down on this one. I am looking forward to Michigan as well. Jason Jung plays #1 singles there. I wonder why he didn't go to Stanford, being from California and all. who would Michigan play in the 1st round ?

bluetrain4
02-03-2009, 11:26 AM
I'm surprised Illinois is hosting. Not because they are not a worthy host, as they are a very good tennis program, but because the Atkins Tennis Center on campus only has 6 indoor courts (unless the facility expansion they are undergoing so they can host the outdoor NCAA tournament includes new indoor courts, but I don't think it does).

The City of Champaign does have a facility with 5 indoor courts, but it's a couple of miles from campus.

I know the AC Nielsen complex in Madison, Wisconsin, where the Women's National Team Indoors is played has 12 courts.

Just seems kinda small for an event of this size.

bluetrain4
02-03-2009, 11:36 AM
I'm surprised Illinois is hosting. Not because they are not a worthy host, as they are a very good tennis program, but because the Atkins Tennis Center on campus only has 6 indoor courts (unless the facility expansion they are undergoing so they can host the outdoor NCAA tournament includes new indoor courts, but I don't think it does).

The City of Champaign does have a facility with 5 indoor courts, but it's a couple of miles from campus.

I know the AC Nielsen complex in Madison, Wisconsin, where the Women's National Team Indoors is played has 12 courts.

Just seems kinda small for an event of this size.

My mistake. Looks like Illinois is hosting at Midtown Racquet Club in Chicago, which as 18 (!!) indoor courts.

Fedace
02-03-2009, 11:46 AM
My mistake. Looks like Illinois is hosting at Midtown Racquet Club in Chicago, which as 18 (!!) indoor courts.

Are you going to go to Midtown to watch ?

bluetrain4
02-03-2009, 11:48 AM
Are you going to go to Midtown to watch ?


Possibly, if I'm in Chicago for the weekend. I actually live in Springfield, which is 3.5 hours SW of Chicago. I was excited when I first heard Illinois was hosting, figuring that it would be in Champaign, which is only 70 minutes from Springfield.

Fedace
02-03-2009, 11:52 AM
Possibly, if I'm in Chicago for the weekend. I actually live in Springfield, which is 3.5 hours SW of Chicago. I was excited when I first heard Illinois was hosting, figuring that it would be in Champaign, which is only 70 minutes from Springfield.

I think it is worth the drive. i say this cause this year, truly the best players in division 1 will be there. and lots of varying styles of play as well. Smith from Univ of Tennessee plays serve and volley, he is a Aussie. and lots of future greats like Clayton, Thacher.

ClarkC
02-03-2009, 12:18 PM
USC will go down on this one. I am looking forward to Michigan as well. Jason Jung plays #1 singles there. I wonder why he didn't go to Stanford, being from California and all. who would Michigan play in the 1st round ?

With standard seeding and draws, Michigan would play Georgia in the first round.

Fedace
02-03-2009, 12:21 PM
With standard seeding and draws, Michigan would play Georgia in the first round.

That should be a great match as well. So many great matchups in the 1st round. Can't wait to be there. I just hope it isn't too crowded. Seating is limited at Midtown and if you get there late, it is a major pain to try to see the match over people's heads..

Federer4life
02-06-2009, 08:36 AM
Hello, someone else might have already asked this question, but how would i go about buying tickets for this event? Thank You.

Fedace
02-06-2009, 06:44 PM
Hello, someone else might have already asked this question, but how would i go about buying tickets for this event? Thank You.

Don't worry, just bring cash to the site. you just pay a little fee to get in. Nothing expensive. i think it is $5 for the entire day.

Fedace
02-06-2009, 06:45 PM
GO CARDINAL. after this tournament, they should move up to #1 or #3 at least.

ihearit1st
02-07-2009, 06:52 AM
Here's a nice result over the weekend:

Tennis Match Results
No. 1 Ohio State 7, No. 22 North Carolina 0
Feb. 6, 2009 at Chapel Hill, N.C.
Cone-Kenfield Tennis Center

Singles
1. No. 1 Bryan Koniecko (OSU) def. No. 73 Clay Donato (UNC) 6-3, 7-5
2. No. 3 Steven Moneke (OSU) vs. No. 59 Taylor Fogleman (UNC) 3-6, 6-1, 6-1
3. No. 6 Justin Kronauge (OSU) vs. Andrew Crone (UNC) 7-6, 6-3
4. No. 38 Balazs Novak (OSU) vs. Brennan Boyjian (UNC) 6-1, 6-1
5. Matt Allare (OSU) def. Luke Mojica (UNC) 6-1, 6-2
6. No. 77 Shuhei Uzawa (OSU) vs. Alex Rafiee (UNC) 6-3, 6-2
Order of Finish: 5, 4, 1, 3, 6, 2

Doubles
1. No. 5 Clay Donato/Taylor Fogleman (UNC) def. Matt Allare/Justin Kronauge (OSU) 8-6
2. No. 11 Steven Moneke/Balazs Novak (OSU) def. Andrew Crone/Zach Hunter (UNC) 8-2
3. Bryan Koniecko/Shuhei Uzawa (OSU) def. Brennan Boyjian/Alex Rafiee (UNC) 8-1
Order of Finish: 2, 3, 1

NickC
02-07-2009, 08:52 AM
GO CARDINAL. after this tournament, they should move up to #1 or #3 at least.

Loosing in either the first or the second round won't make a team ranked 11th move up in the rankings. Use some common sense. If anything they'll go down in the rankings.


You stole Fee's avatar. Not cool.

NickC
02-07-2009, 08:55 AM
Here's a nice result over the weekend:

Tennis Match Results
No. 1 Ohio State 7, No. 22 North Carolina 0
Feb. 6, 2009 at Chapel Hill, N.C.
Cone-Kenfield Tennis Center

Singles
1. No. 1 Bryan Koniecko (OSU) def. No. 73 Clay Donato (UNC) 6-3, 7-5
2. No. 3 Steven Moneke (OSU) vs. No. 59 Taylor Fogleman (UNC) 3-6, 6-1, 6-1
3. No. 6 Justin Kronauge (OSU) vs. Andrew Crone (UNC) 7-6, 6-3
4. No. 38 Balazs Novak (OSU) vs. Brennan Boyjian (UNC) 6-1, 6-1
5. Matt Allare (OSU) def. Luke Mojica (UNC) 6-1, 6-2
6. No. 77 Shuhei Uzawa (OSU) vs. Alex Rafiee (UNC) 6-3, 6-2
Order of Finish: 5, 4, 1, 3, 6, 2

Doubles
1. No. 5 Clay Donato/Taylor Fogleman (UNC) def. Matt Allare/Justin Kronauge (OSU) 8-6
2. No. 11 Steven Moneke/Balazs Novak (OSU) def. Andrew Crone/Zach Hunter (UNC) 8-2
3. Bryan Koniecko/Shuhei Uzawa (OSU) def. Brennan Boyjian/Alex Rafiee (UNC) 8-1
Order of Finish: 2, 3, 1

See, Fedace, THIS is a dominant result. 7-0 against a team in the top 25. 5-2 against a team that's ranked 35 isn't.

ESP#1
02-07-2009, 12:56 PM
Hows Virginia look this year? I havent been keeping up

reesespiecestennis
02-07-2009, 03:20 PM
Hows Virginia look this year? I havent been keeping up

here you go- http://www.virginiasportstv.com/?load=tennismen&v=1424&f=.mov&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=17800&DB_LANG=&IN_SUBSCRIBER_CONTENT=

atatu
02-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Texas shut out 15th ranked Texas A&M yesterday, some close matches, but UT was too strong.

Fedace
02-08-2009, 07:32 AM
Texas shut out 15th ranked Texas A&M yesterday, some close matches, but UT was too strong.

Texas looks very strong this year. Damico vs Krijicek looked like the best match. after Stanford disposes of USC in the 1st round, could match up with Texas in the Semis...

justacityboy
02-08-2009, 10:19 AM
potential upset brewing. Wake Forest dropped the doubles point to Ohio St and then won the first set on 5 of six courts. OSU up 2-0 but wake leads on every court that's still in progress

Fedace
02-08-2009, 10:20 AM
^^^I didn't know Wake was such a Power house in division 1. ??

Fedace
02-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Anyway,,, The Practice for all the teams is on Thursday at the Midtown tennis club. and the action starts on Friday am. The Practice is OPEN to all who wants to come and watch,,,all day Thursday. according to Midtown.

justacityboy
02-08-2009, 10:22 AM
by no means a powerhouse, but currently ranked 21 or 22

Fedace
02-08-2009, 10:27 AM
by no means a powerhouse, but currently ranked 21 or 22

Ohio state is coming back in the 2nd sets.

justacityboy
02-08-2009, 10:36 AM
you expected anything different? they're not #1 for nothing. gonna be tough for wake to pull it out.

ihearit1st
02-08-2009, 11:25 AM
Nice effort by Wake. Cory Parr is a pretty solid hitter. OSU made an interesting lineup change to put Matt Allare at #4. I know Matt and he's not a #4 player in a national contending team. Maybe they were underestimating Wake.

JMS
02-08-2009, 11:32 AM
Nice effort by Wake. Cory Parr is a pretty solid hitter. OSU made an interesting lineup change to put Matt Allare at #4. I know Matt and he's not a #4 player in a national contending team. Maybe they were underestimating Wake.

Yeah I was at the match, Wake was playing pretty sharp while Ohio State was probably underestimating them at the same time.

Fedace
02-08-2009, 07:09 PM
I am going to the Stanford Practice on thursday in Midtown tennis club in Chicago.. Anyone else going ??

andfor
02-08-2009, 07:16 PM
I am going to the Stanford Practice on thursday in Midtown tennis club in Chicago.. Anyone else going ??

Why are you asking? You probably won't identify yourself. You should just stick to hangin with Coach Whit, Bruch, Clayton and the team.

ESP#1
02-09-2009, 05:47 PM
here you go- http://www.virginiasportstv.com/?load=tennismen&v=1424&f=.mov&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=17800&DB_LANG=&IN_SUBSCRIBER_CONTENT=

Thanks they look like they have a solid team

Fedace
02-10-2009, 06:07 AM
What is the most exciting 1st round matchup in chicago this week ?

goober
02-10-2009, 06:42 AM
Why are you asking? You probably won't identify yourself. You should just stick to hangin with Coach Whit, Bruch, Clayton and the team.

You are assuming that they even know who he is... he will probably gawking in the background. :) But yes, it doesn't even matter it is not like he is going to identify himself.

Oh yeah just happen to be in the area Feddie? Making a midwinter trip from San Diego to Chicago? LOL....

ClarkC
02-10-2009, 11:07 AM
What is the most exciting 1st round matchup in chicago this week ?

Draws should be out by tonight. We will see.

By the way, I see that the host sites for the NCAA outdoor championships in May have been released for the next few years. 2009, of course, will be at Texas A&M, with Georgia in 2010, Stanford in 2011, then Georgia again in 2012. The way Stanford is recruiting, they should be pretty strong in 2011 when they host. The Clayton class, Klahn/Thacher class, and the Kandath et al. commitments from this fall will all be on the roster at once. Other schools will be strong as well, however.

AndrewD
02-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Only The Elite teams in Division 1 will be invited to play. Ohio State, Stanford, and Virginia etc.

Stanford? I thought you said it was the 'elite' teams.

OleNole
02-10-2009, 03:10 PM
Draws released

(1) Ohio State v. (16) Pepperdine
(10) Baylor v. (8) Tennessee
(5) Virginia v. (12) Tulsa
(4) UCLA v. (13) Illinois

(9) Mississippi v. (6) USC
(3) Georgia v. (14) Florida State
(11) Stanford v. (7) Florida
(2) Texas v. (15) Michigan

OleNole
02-10-2009, 03:15 PM
I'll take OSU, Tennesee, UVA, UCLA, Ole Miss, UGa, Stanford, and Texas in round 1, OSU, UCLA, Ole Miss and Stanford in round 2. OSU over Ole Miss in the final.

I'm already excited for the probable Virginia versus UCLA second round match.

ClarkC
02-10-2009, 03:51 PM
Here is the men's draw (http://www.itatennis.com/Assets/ita_assets/pdf/Men$!27s+National+Team+Indoors/Mens_Draws.pdf). They randomized a little and did not go strictly with 1v16, 2v15, etc. in the first round.

Tulsa has the toughest draw to win it: Virginia, UCLA, Ohio State, then the winner of the Texas/Florida/USC/Stanford half.

ClarkC
02-10-2009, 03:55 PM
I'll take OSU, Tennesee, UVA, UCLA, Ole Miss, UGa, Stanford, and Texas in round 1, OSU, UCLA, Ole Miss and Stanford in round 2. OSU over Ole Miss in the final.

I'm already excited for the probable Virginia versus UCLA second round match.

Given your screen name, I am surprised you pick Georgia over FSU in round 1. I think Georgia got a tough draw here and the match is a tossup.

Virginia-UCLA would be a tossup if UCLA were healthy. Harel Srugo and Holden Seguso are both less than 100% as they recover from injuries. Virginia has the edge there.

Ole Miss is not quite as strong as you rate them, I think. USC is a tough first round draw for them. I would say their path to the final is too tough for them by far.

ClarkC
02-10-2009, 06:14 PM
Perhaps those who keep up with each program should post injury info. Virginia is healthy. Ohio State seems to be healthy in all matches so far.

I mentioned that UCLA has some issues. Illinois seems to have had some musical chairs lineups so far this year. Baylor's only senior, David Galic, should be playing #2 or #3 but has not played yet, which has a huge effect on their lineup strength.

Any others?

atatu
02-10-2009, 06:21 PM
I think Florida is the dark horse in this draw...

Lefty Spin
02-10-2009, 06:59 PM
It should be an interesting tournament. Any team could win the thing but Ohio State should be the favorite, however, Virginia is excellent. I don't think Georgia or Texas are as strong as most think. Illinois has a lot of depth and could win some matches. They beat Florida tonight, but lost to Tennessee over the weekend and that was with them sitting their number 2 player for those matches. It usually takes the outdoor-warm weather teams a match to get their indoor game together. Because of the depth in the men's tournament some of those teams could lose their first round match. Florida-Stanford and UCLA-Illinois should be fun. These are teams that have had some heated battles over the last few years. Pepperdine and Michigan also are not as strong. It definately will be a fun time.

ClarkC
02-10-2009, 07:27 PM
Johnny Hamui was missing from singles and doubles for Florida tonight vs. Illinois. Is this due to injury?

And why has Roy Kalmanovich been sitting out for Illinois?

Fedace
02-10-2009, 07:29 PM
I think Florida is the dark horse in this draw...

Not sure about that. i think Stanford will surprise them in the 1st round.

ihearit1st
02-11-2009, 05:45 AM
Not sure about that. i think Stanford will surprise them in the 1st round.

I wonder why you'd think that...

Fedace
02-11-2009, 06:21 AM
I wonder why you'd think that...

Really. I do like the matchup on this one. I think it will be close but Stanford should pull this one out.

OleNole
02-11-2009, 10:15 AM
Clark, what are your picks? The OSU-Virginia winner?
BTW I agree with Fedace, Stanford got a nice draw. I think the three best teams are all in the top half.

Fedace
02-11-2009, 10:28 AM
Clark, what are your picks? The OSU-Virginia winner?
BTW I agree with Fedace, Stanford got a nice draw. I think the three best teams are all in the top half.

Once Stanford gets by Florida, they will have to face Texas in the 2nd round. That is going to be a tough matchup for Stanford. I am not so confident that they can get by that match.

ClarkC
02-11-2009, 12:05 PM
Clark, what are your picks? The OSU-Virginia winner?


Yes.

Even though I am a big Virginia fan, I would objectively have to say that Ohio State is the favorite, UVa is #2, and I really want to know more about the injury situations of various other teams before I even choose a #3 or a #4. My observation is that injuries are a major factor in college tennis, not just an excuse used by fans. Ohio State and Virginia are not only excellent; they seem to be fully healthy right now. Other teams have had some mysterious lineups that indicate lack of 100% health for some players.

Lindsay
02-11-2009, 01:13 PM
OSU is playing Ole Miss tonight at OSU. There should be live scoring available. Is this the first top 10 matchup of the year? Should be a good determiner of who's hot going into the Indoors.

ClarkC
02-11-2009, 01:22 PM
I think that Ole Miss is properly ranked at #9. I used to think they were underrated, the logic being that they were #9 before they signed three top players to enroll in January. But preseason rankings are a joke. If they had not signed those players, they could hardly field a team, much less be #9. So I think the signings just caught them up with their ranking.

We will know more after they play Ohio State.

Fedace
02-11-2009, 03:14 PM
Tomorrow is my birthday. Perhaps i can celebrate my birthday late on Monday, when Stanford wins the ITA team title.

ClarkC
02-11-2009, 03:57 PM
Ohio State LiveStats appear not to be working tonight. Anyone else have one that works? Ole Miss site links to Ohio State livestats, which are worthless.

Lindsay
02-11-2009, 04:08 PM
Ohio State LiveStats appear not to be working tonight. Anyone else have one that works? Ole Miss site links to Ohio State livestats, which are worthless.

its been postponed due to bad storms in columbus.

Fedace
02-11-2009, 07:32 PM
All teams practice on thursday at Midtown tennis club. Practice times are 9am til 6pm. Stanford practice at 12 noon. and their 1st match is at Noon on Friday.

LSStringing
02-12-2009, 03:05 PM
TW would not be TW without FedAce. I can't tell you how many times he has made me smile...
My picks:
Ohio State
Baylor
UCLA
Virginia
Mississippi
Georgia
Stanford
Texas

Semis:
Ohio State (sorry, Matt)
UCLA
Mississippi
Texas

Ohio State over Texas

Fedace
02-12-2009, 03:32 PM
^^^Way they were looking in practice today, i would be surprised if they didn't get to the semis. They were simply looking awsome.

Fedace
02-12-2009, 04:08 PM
Florida is Going down in Flames tomorrow. They lost to Illinois in their last dual match. Florida is highly over-rated. Go Cardinal.....

Lindsay
02-12-2009, 04:33 PM
^^^Way they were looking in practice today, i would be surprised if they didn't get to the semis. They were simply looking awsome.


Who are you talking about? Certainly not Stanford. You said they were gonna win it. Don't go back on your word.

My picks:
2nd Rd:
OSU vs. Baylor
UCLA vs. Virginia
USC vs. Georgia (although I wish Ole Miss would win)
Stanford vs. Texas

Semis:
OSU vs. Virginia
USC vs. Texas

Finals:
OSU over Texas

Fedace
02-12-2009, 05:39 PM
Who are you talking about? Certainly not Stanford. You said they were gonna win it. Don't go back on your word.

My picks:
2nd Rd:
OSU vs. Baylor
UCLA vs. Virginia
USC vs. Georgia (although I wish Ole Miss would win)
Stanford vs. Texas

Semis:
OSU vs. Virginia
USC vs. Texas

Finals:
OSU over Texas

Can't wait to witness the annilation of Florida tomorrow. and yes, once Stanford gets on a roll, they will roll right over Texas as well. From #3-6 positions, Stanford is stronger than them.

S H O W S T O P P E R !
02-12-2009, 05:46 PM
Is there any feeds? Preferably free?

atatu
02-12-2009, 07:01 PM
Can't wait to witness the annilation of Florida tomorrow. and yes, once Stanford gets on a roll, they will roll right over Texas as well. From #3-6 positions, Stanford is stronger than them.

That's interesting, because I consider Texas to be a little weak in the 2 and 3 lines. No way Stanford wins at #6, Zavala is nails.

Fedace
02-13-2009, 05:41 AM
That's interesting, because I consider Texas to be a little weak in the 2 and 3 lines. No way Stanford wins at #6, Zavala is nails.

Greg Hirschman will take him out at #6. Greg played very tough in the Kzoo, and is very mentally tough.:)

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 07:10 AM
Let's have a new thread for discussing results from the men's indoor. FSU and Georgia are in a tiebreaker at #3 doubles right now to decide their doubles point.

Fedace
02-13-2009, 07:27 AM
jason jung should upset this fellow at #1

OleNole
02-13-2009, 07:28 AM
Looks like Georgia took the doubles point. Singles should be great, Florida State's top 3 are tough. Live score updates at

http://fightingillini.cstv.com/livestats/m-tennis/m-tennis-livestats.html

OleNole
02-13-2009, 07:32 AM
jason jung should upset this fellow at #1

Really? Kutrovsky is a very good player, probably a little underrated at 31. This could be a 7-0 result for Texas in my opinion.

Fedace
02-13-2009, 07:36 AM
Really? Kutrovsky is a very good player, probably a little underrated at 31. This could be a 7-0 result for Texas in my opinion.

It looks like they will never get to finish their match. Alex will take him out tomorrow.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 08:01 AM
LiveStats has been full of interesting scores that get corrected later to something totally different. Miguel Reyes Varela of Texas was listed at 6-2, 1-1, now his score is 3-4 in the first set. Drew Daniel of Michigan was down 0-2 and then 1-2, then listed as 2-1 in his favor, etc.

I hope the live scoring volunteers get it together. Last year in Seattle was a nightmare in this regard.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 08:43 AM
As is often the case, the three unfinished matches were tight, but the three that finished were not. Texas advances 4-0 over Michigan.

atatu
02-13-2009, 08:44 AM
Really? Kutrovsky is a very good player, probably a little underrated at 31. This could be a 7-0 result for Texas in my opinion.

He's very, very good, but Damico and Corrie took care of business for UT today. I think Kutrovsky and Zavala at #6 are the most dependable lines for Texas.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 08:44 AM
Fedace: You said elsewhere that Florida State was overrated, like Florida, and I said that were easily #2 in the ACC and a tough opponent. They look pretty close with Georgia right now. Of course Georgia is overrated at #3.

pandal3oy
02-13-2009, 09:05 AM
go UT! dang im at work. i missed the 9am start. maybe ill go watch them tomorrow.

UT as in Texas...whoops!

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 09:14 AM
Vitulli breaks for the 3rd set and the win for Georgia at #6. Two unfinished matches were close ones.

Looks like Stanford-Florida was awaiting these courts, so they will start later than USC-Ole Miss, which gets the Texas-Michigan courts.

pandal3oy
02-13-2009, 10:40 AM
As is often the case, the three unfinished matches were tight, but the three that finished were not. Texas advances 4-0 over Michigan.

woo hoo go texas!

ihearit1st
02-13-2009, 10:56 AM
Texas looks good so far. Georgia is a bit overrated. They won 4-1 but it seemed much closer. Stanford lost the dubs point even though they blatantly stacked. I hope fedace didn't pay for his hotel in advance.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 11:04 AM
Florida won the doubles point over Stanford. Singles early in the first sets.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 11:16 AM
The "overrated" Florida Gators are at least putting up a fight against Stanford. In fact, Dadamo of Florida at #5 was the first player to win a first set. Other matches tight. Thacher ahead at #4 for Stanford.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 11:18 AM
USC up 3-0 over Ole Miss and Magdas can end it if he wins a 2nd set tiebreaker at #4.

atatu
02-13-2009, 11:39 AM
Florida and Stanford is going to be very close....with Stanford in control of the #1, 2 and 4 lines, but Florida ahead at 3, 5, and 6....

atatu
02-13-2009, 11:43 AM
Greg Hirschman will take him out at #6. Greg played very tough in the Kzoo, and is very mentally tough.:)

Hirschman can beat Zavala at a math contest or at a violin throw down, but not in a tennis match.

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 11:45 AM
USC wins 4-0 over Ole Miss.

I would put USC as the favorite in the bottom half of the draw. I think they are a heavy favorite over Georgia tomorrow and a slight favorite in the semifinal over Florida, Texas, or Stanford.

Unless someone makes a comeback, Florida beats Stanford 4-3. Perhaps this is what was meant by Stanford "annihilating" Florida.

atatu
02-13-2009, 01:06 PM
Wow, Stanford pulls it out 4-3, it all came down to line 6 where Blake Mueller won 46,76,63. Props to Stanford.

TourTenor
02-13-2009, 01:16 PM
Wow, Stanford pulls it out 4-3, it all came down to line 6 where Blake Mueller won 46,76,63. Props to Stanford.
I am sure that it had to do with the great food or even some "tennis advice" that the 'wealthy alum' Fedace fed to the team at McD's???:rolleyes:

ClarkC
02-13-2009, 01:28 PM
Wow, Stanford pulls it out 4-3, it all came down to line 6 where Blake Mueller won 46,76,63. Props to Stanford.

Muller was down 6-4, 4-2 before the comeback.

By the way, do any Gators fans know the status of Tyler Hochwalt? He must be injured, as he would be at least #4 in the lineup otherwise and is also a good doubles player.

And Johnny Hamui? That is two former blue chip recruits who are out injured. Sounds like a Gators win if either were healthy, much more if both were healthy. I notice Florida has no seniors on their squad. If healthy, they will be the Ohio State of 2010.

atatu
02-13-2009, 01:36 PM
I was wondering where Hamui was also...

Fedace
02-13-2009, 04:22 PM
go UT! dang im at work. i missed the 9am start. maybe ill go watch them tomorrow.

UT as in Texas...whoops!

Stanford vs Texas at 9am. this will be a close one. If Stanford pulls out the doubles point, they should upset the Longhorns.:)

Fedace
02-13-2009, 04:24 PM
I felt a little bad for Bradley Klahn. I watched the entire match and he looked so discouraged after the 2nd set loss. Better day tomorrow, Bradley.

LSStringing
02-13-2009, 06:24 PM
National Team Indoors...that is the topic.

FedAce's boys pulled off a good first round win. You at least have to give him 1. The next round will be a different story. But at least he got to see them play two rounds. Enjoy the next round.

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 02:36 AM
The two teams that were the most impressive on the first day were USC and Virginia. I had USC on my list of not-quite-first-tier teams going into the tournament, but I will have to reconsider that after their 4-0 win over Ole Miss. They should whip Georgia and the Texas/Stanford winner and make the finals from the bottom half of the draw. I had UCLA as the clear favorite in the Pac-10 this year, but now I am not so sure.

Virginia would have beaten Tulsa 7-0 with every singles match being won in straight sets if they had been allowed to continue. Only one second set was even. Tulsa's best hope was #10 Arnau Brugues, an excellent player at #1. Dom Inglot was up 6-4, 5-4 and had just broken serve. He was going to serve for the match. Dom is undefeated this year and has beaten players ranked 23, 20, 15, 9, 4, and 10 in his last six matches. He should have a top 5 ranking when the computer rankings finally come out after the indoors.

Ohio State was not as dominant as I had expected against Pepperdine. Kutrovsky looks vulnerable for Texas when they play any top team. I still want to see them play one of the really top teams before I judge their chances this year. Stanford squeaked by a Florida team that was missing two good players. Georgia looked overrated at #3, as I expected they would. Ole Miss is a little too young this year. Tennessee struggled a bit more with Baylor than I anticipated. Baylor needs to get David Galic back, and get Mueller back into top form. They are depending too much on young players at high positions with their current lineup.

Several teams will improve significantly as injured players get back to 100% between the indoors and the outdoor championships: UCLA, Florida, and Baylor. Those three will compete with Ohio State, USC and Virginia for the outdoor title if all six teams are healthy. The NCAAs (indoors and especially outdoors) look very deep with teams that could actually win it all.

atatu
02-14-2009, 06:20 AM
I have to disagree about USC, but I guess we will see. I think a lot of people underestimate Kutrovsky, which was the downfall of a lot of teams last season (see Run to NCAA Finals, Texas). Having said that, the Stanford match today will be close, I like Texas at #1 doubles and #2 doubles, plus #3, #4 and #6 singles.

pandal3oy
02-14-2009, 07:08 AM
Stanford vs Texas at 9am. this will be a close one. If Stanford pulls out the doubles point, they should upset the Longhorns.:)

Texas won the doubles point. lets hope that rattles stanford!

Lindsay
02-14-2009, 08:32 AM
Texas won the doubles point. lets hope that rattles stanford!

Its a battle, 2-1 Stanford at the moment. Stanford will win at least 3.

pandal3oy
02-14-2009, 09:37 AM
Its a battle, 2-1 Stanford at the moment. Stanford will win at least 3.

omg its 3-3 now and its the last match damico vs klahn 5-5 in the 3rd. arggg and i have to leave soon too. i wish i could wake myself up early to actually go watch. i woke up at 8 and told myself ide go but got lazy. im sure its not even updated on time on that website so im just waiting!! haha

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 09:43 AM
I figured that Texas and Stanford would be a tossup. I guess I got that fairly correct. They are 3-3 with #2 singles at 5-5 in the third set at 5-5, and now the LiveStats updates and says Klahn of Stanford won 1-6, 7-6, 7-5 over Kellen Damico to give Stanford a 4-3 win.

USC will now beat Georgia and Stanford to reach the final from the bottom half.

pandal3oy
02-14-2009, 09:43 AM
arggg 7-5 in the 3rd. im so sad! i was going to go watch on sunday too!

Lindsay
02-14-2009, 09:43 AM
omg its 3-3 now and its the last match damico vs klahn 5-5 in the 3rd. arggg and i have to leave soon too. i wish i could wake myself up early to actually go watch. i woke up at 8 and told myself ide go but got lazy. im sure its not even updated on time on that website so im just waiting!! haha

Nice win for Stanford. Klahn picked it way up in the 3rd.

atatu
02-14-2009, 10:33 AM
Good win for Stanford, bad loss for Texas, especially Damico at line 2, who won the first set 6-1, then lost a second set tiebreak, before losing the third 7-5. Clayton was too good at #1 for Kutrovsky, though. UT misses some of the senior leadership they had last year...

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 10:35 AM
Georgia pulls ahead (http://fightingillini.cstv.com/livestats/m-tennis/m-tennis-livestats.html) at the end for the doubles point against USC.

I still favor USC in singles.

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 01:09 PM
So much for that prediction! Georgia pulls some clutch comebacks to beat USC. Probably the biggest comeback was at #6, where the LiveStats showed John McNaughton of USC winning 7-6, 6-0 and USC ahead 2-1. Then it showed McNaughton ahead 7-6, the entire second set disappeared from the score, and the team score was back to 1-1. Then it showed that Josh Varela had won the 1st set tiebreaker after all, so McNaughton was at 6-7, 6-0. Then Varela won the 3rd set. Now, that is a comeback. :)

I am running about 50% on predictions so far. I think what I have learned is that it is too early to gauge one team against another team from a different conference at this point in the season. That is what the National Indoors helps us to do. In about a month, we will have a much clearer idea of how teams actually rank. Right now, who knows? For example, I thought Tennessee did well against Baylor yesterday, but I also have no idea how good Baylor is with the lineup they have right now, so how do I rate Tennessee vs. someone besides Baylor? Who knows what their win over Baylor actually means. Ditto for numerous other teams here.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 02:53 PM
Nice win for Stanford. Klahn picked it way up in the 3rd.

Greatest upset in NCAA this year. Texas player started to cramp up in the 3rd set. but Nice WIN for Klahn anyway. Bradley fought back after getting bageled in the 1st set. CONGRATS TO COACH Whit, he did a great job with Bradley in that match.... way to go coach, couldn't have pulled it off without you.:)

Fedace
02-14-2009, 02:54 PM
Clark, who are you picking tomorrow in Georgia vs Stanford match ??? I will be there early to cheer on the Stanford team.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 03:28 PM
Ohio state could be looking at a upset here. Uzawa at #6 really blowing it.. he was supposed to win this match.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 03:52 PM
#1 seed Ohio state in Major Trouble,,,now down 3 matches to 2 against Tennessee.

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 03:56 PM
Clark, who are you picking tomorrow in Georgia vs Stanford match ??? I will be there early to cheer on the Stanford team.

I think that one is a tossup. I think the lower half of the draw was about even among Georgia, Florida, Texas, Stanford, and USC. Not much to separate those five teams. Anything could happen when any of those teams play each other.

Lindsay
02-14-2009, 04:27 PM
what a sad story- osu blew it. i think the favorite goes to virginia now. but then again, i thought ohio state would win the whole thing.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 04:36 PM
what a sad story- osu blew it. i think the favorite goes to virginia now. but then again, i thought ohio state would win the whole thing.

I think Now, Stanford becomes the favorite to win the NCAA indoors on monday.

Lindsay
02-14-2009, 04:49 PM
I think Now, Stanford becomes the favorite to win the NCAA indoors on monday.

They won 4-3 the first round. Texas had match points on them in rd 2, yet they still won 4-3. I can't think they're the favorites after barely winning 2 rounds.

pandal3oy
02-14-2009, 05:00 PM
They won 4-3 the first round. Texas had match points on them in rd 2, yet they still won 4-3. I can't think they're the favorites after barely winning 2 rounds.

well though im sad that Texas lost, i do hope Stanford does well now. im happy Tennessee won though. go underdogs! i guess i can go watch the Texas consolation tomorrow at least lol.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 05:04 PM
I had the pleasure of watching Klahn make a comeback against Damico. but if there is such a thing as "Unsportsman like conduct of the year" award, this guy Damico would win it, Hands down. He acts like a Gangster on the court and was constantly Taunting Bradley all thru the match. He received a warning for Taunting from the umpire but it still didn't stop him. and Texas coaching staff was doing nothing about it.....SAD indeed..

Lindsay
02-14-2009, 05:05 PM
yea, kellen can be a bit of a jerk at times. i watched him play at texas a & m and he did just about the same thing. then he walked off court after winning and was hugging on his grandpa. i couldn't look my family in the eye after acting like that. but he got his in the 3rd vs stanford with all those cramps.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 05:11 PM
One thing i want add is without being a homer, I saw Clearly the BEST player in this entire tournament is Alex Clayton. He is playing #1 against the top teams in the country and he is making it look easy. Thru the entire match, Alex is in complete control. even the score maybe close in some sets, you can just see that Alex can just explode and close out the set at anytime. It is sold of like watching Pete Sampras play guys outside of the top 50 in the old days...
AMAZING, that is all.

ihearit1st
02-14-2009, 05:46 PM
Greatest upset in NCAA this year. Texas player started to cramp up in the 3rd set. but Nice WIN for Klahn anyway. Bradley fought back after getting bageled in the 1st set. CONGRATS TO COACH Whit, he did a great job with Bradley in that match.... way to go coach, couldn't have pulled it off without you.:)

He didn't get bageled.

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 06:10 PM
One thing i want add is without being a homer, I saw Clearly the BEST player in this entire tournament is Alex Clayton.

Try watching Dom Inglot of Virginia. He has beaten 5 players in a row who are ranked in the top 25. Against Arnau Brugues of Tulsa, ranked #10, he was about to serve for the match at 6-4, 5-4 when Brugues took a medical timeout. Virginia won on another court and Dom did not get to finish the match. That would have been SIX consecutive wins over top 25 players. Let us know when Clayton does that. Dimitar Kutrovsky was ranked about #31. Florida's #1 was about #87.

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 06:41 PM
Dom Inglot just beat Haythem Abid of UCLA at #1, 6-2, 7-5. Clutch, dominating play all year.

Fedace
02-14-2009, 07:36 PM
Alex Clayton Beat Dom Inglot in 07-08 season.

ClarkC
02-14-2009, 08:00 PM
Alex Clayton Beat Dom Inglot in 07-08 season.

Dom had shoulder surgery as soon as the outdoor season ended in June 2008. He took some time to rehab it. Coach Boland has said that Dom is 100% healthy for the first time since he got to UVa. In fact, he enrolled in January his first year and sat out the spring; I remember seeing him on crutches that spring. He played with shoulder problems for two years.

Dom Inglot this year does not compare to the last two years.

You can read more about the injury situation here (http://www.cavalierdaily.com/news/2009/feb/11/healthy-shoulder-helps-inglot-to-dominant-start/).

atatu
02-14-2009, 08:05 PM
yea, kellen can be a bit of a jerk at times. i watched him play at texas a & m and he did just about the same thing. then he walked off court after winning and was hugging on his grandpa. i couldn't look my family in the eye after acting like that. but he got his in the 3rd vs stanford with all those cramps.

Damico has actually gotten worse since arriving at UT last year, he is "enjoying the college lifestyle" as they say, and his tennis has suffered. He looked like a world beater when he first got to UT, but has progressively gotten worse as time goes by....unfortunate. Meanwhile Zavala won again at the #6 line, watch this kid, he's going to win a lot for UT this year.

Fedace
02-15-2009, 04:23 AM
^^Wasn't Damico one of those can't miss juniors about 3-4 years ago. I remember USTA had High hopes for him. and i thought he was going to have a great pro career. But when i saw him yesterday, i didn't see anything special in his game....

eeytennis
02-15-2009, 04:38 AM
What a shake up...sort of...I am not TOO shocked as these current team rankings really mean very little at this point in time. All of OSU's singles loses came in straight sets as well...maybe they aren't the "super team" that so many people had them out to be? I guess time will tell.

As for my prediction, I say Virginia takes the whole thing. I don't know if Stanford will make the finals...maybe they can ride off the momentum they have built up in the tournament...and I am kind of hoping they make the finals, just so Fedace can be sort of right for once ;-)

Fedace
02-15-2009, 04:41 AM
^^stanford singles guys are much stronger than people gave them credit for. They lost both doubles points but managed to squeek it out. They practice the doubles alot in their practice sessions but hasn't helped so far. but today against Georgia, i get a feeling that they really need the doubles point.

The Wreck
02-15-2009, 06:42 AM
Everyone counted out Georgia, but I tried to tell you, they always find a way to win...I definetly see them getting past Stanford in a close match. GO DAWGS!

OleNole
02-15-2009, 07:58 AM
I'm concerned about Justin Kronauge. I believe he lost all four of his matches (singles and doubles) in the first two rounds. I'm not seeing it live, but the scores online make it sound like he's really falen off from where he was last year and even this fall. I think the results in the consolation match between OSU and UCLA might be worth looking at today. If Kronauge and Uzawa can get their games going again, this could be a preview of the natl. championship.

Also, Clark and Fedace, don't forget Michael Venus of LSU in your discussion of best player in the country.

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 08:25 AM
I'm concerned about Justin Kronauge. I believe he lost all four of his matches (singles and doubles) in the first two rounds. I'm not seeing it live, but the scores online make it sound like he's really falen off from where he was last year and even this fall. I think the results in the consolation match between OSU and UCLA might be worth looking at today. If Kronauge and Uzawa can get their games going again, this could be a preview of the natl. championship.

Also, Clark and Fedace, don't forget Michael Venus of LSU in your discussion of best player in the country.

He won in dubs vs. Tennessee. But you're right. Something is up. I know Justin and wish him all the best. He is a great player. This has not been a good month for him. He had a bad loss coming into the tournament, and 3 during it. But he had a great fall. Hopefully he will snap out of it. His team needs him.

ClarkC
02-15-2009, 09:46 AM
^^Wasn't Damico one of those can't miss juniors about 3-4 years ago. I remember USTA had High hopes for him. and i thought he was going to have a great pro career. But when i saw him yesterday, i didn't see anything special in his game....

Yet, when he cramped up at 5-5 in the 3rd, he was dead even with a Stanford player that you no doubt think is going to be a super pro someday. Can that be done by someone who has nothing special in his game? I don't get it.

OleNole
02-15-2009, 09:54 AM
Greatest upset in NCAA this year. Texas player started to cramp up in the 3rd set. but Nice WIN for Klahn anyway.

Not even the biggest upset of the day. That was Tennessee over Ohio State

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 11:05 AM
I think Stanford will beat Georgia due to their depth. Stanford will probably win lines 4-6, so they only need 1 on the top or the doubles point(which they probably won't win).

julianoz
02-15-2009, 12:03 PM
Can whoever went there give us a racket update? I did a thread on the racket forum on what i saw at the maryland/purdue match. Only one babolat! Head dominated...

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 12:19 PM
2-2 at Stanford vs. Georgia. Like I thought, Stanford won their 2 points at line 4 and 5. Georgia is up a set and on serve at 2. Line 3 and 6 are in the 3rd sets on serve. Georgia should win line 2, and will probably get 1 of the 3 set matches.

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 12:22 PM
georgia wins 4-2.

ClarkC
02-15-2009, 01:43 PM
Virginia just dominated the doubles against Tennessee. They were flat in doubles against UCLA, so this is a good sign for Cavalier fans.

zammouka
02-15-2009, 02:20 PM
I was at Midtown Tennis Club. The Stanford Texas upset was great to watch. But I think the best team there by far was Ohio State. Georgia's first doubles against USC was a great match. But I think the Georgia-USC 3rd and 4th singles were the best matches I saw there. Both split sets and ended up going to Georgia. It really hit me how much more intense college tennis is from pro tennis. I also liked watching them live, because it really showed the finesse they all had as players

zammouka
02-15-2009, 02:22 PM
I also forgot to mention that Evan King was there and it was obvious that he already signed with Michigan. I talked to one of the instructors and he apparently has been training at midtown for a while. Also, we had lunch with the Ohio State Buckeyes.

Fedace
02-15-2009, 03:15 PM
Yet, when he cramped up at 5-5 in the 3rd, he was dead even with a Stanford player that you no doubt think is going to be a super pro someday. Can that be done by someone who has nothing special in his game? I don't get it.

I agree that Bradley will not be making a impact in the Pro ranks. He has no real weapons at the moment but has a heart, the size of Texas, no pun intended. We will see how his game develops in next 3 years at Stanford.:)

Fedace
02-15-2009, 03:17 PM
:)Everyone counted out Georgia, but I tried to tell you, they always find a way to win...I definetly see them getting past Stanford in a close match. GO DAWGS!

It wasn't that close, i watched the whole thing. Georgia seem to be a better team at the moment. We will see how it goes in the NCAA championships. I will predict that Stanford will improve enough to get past Georgia if they meet again.:)

ClarkC
02-15-2009, 03:19 PM
But I think the best team there by far was Ohio State.

There are many bizarre statements on internet message boards, I guess, but this is right up there with any of them. Ohio State struggled past Pepperdine, then got upset by Tennessee. Perhaps you meant someone other than Ohio State?

Fedace
02-15-2009, 03:19 PM
OK, A POOR officiating costs Alex Clayton the 1st set in the match. SAD SAD SAD. Umpire said he already gave a warning to Alex when he gives him the point penalty. I never heard it. And this Stuck up Umpire does it on a SET point. Game and SET Georgia on a penalty.

ClarkC
02-15-2009, 03:22 PM
:)

It wasn't that close, i watched the whole thing. Georgia seem to be a better team at the moment. We will see how it goes in the NCAA championships. I will predict that Stanford will improve enough to get past Georgia if they meet again.:)

What did you think of Borja Malo of Georgia? He is the only Georgia player I am not familiar with, because he enrolled in January. Came from Chile.

Fedace
02-15-2009, 03:28 PM
What did you think of Borja Malo of Georgia? He is the only Georgia player I am not familiar with, because he enrolled in January. Came from Chile.

He was Dominated by Ryan Thacher. I wasn't surprised. Borja was simply over-powered by a powerful Lefty. Anyway, i would never question Coach Whitlinger, but i think it was a mistake to play Matt Bruch in the 3rd singles. Ryan was getting hot and injury free, and he may have won the 3rd singles in straights. Matt's confidence is at a all time Low, and is making a ton of unforced errors at the moment.

Fedace
02-15-2009, 03:44 PM
I am really curious as to see why Hirschman played #6 today instead of Blake Muller. Not sure if Blake could have won that match but Blake has been striking the ball very clean this entire weekend.

Fedace
02-15-2009, 04:01 PM
I do have to Congratulate Georgia on their win today. More and more i watch them, i can't help it but think they are CLASS organization. From the coaching staff right down to the players.

woodrow1029
02-15-2009, 04:29 PM
OK, A POOR officiating costs Alex Clayton the 1st set in the match. SAD SAD SAD. Umpire said he already gave a warning to Alex when he gives him the point penalty. I never heard it. And this Stuck up Umpire does it on a SET point. Game and SET Georgia on a penalty.
Ok Fedace, what was the code violation for?

Fedace
02-15-2009, 04:35 PM
He got really mad on a unforced error and blowing a 5-4 lead and he just hit a ball hard into the back of the court. There was NOONE there. Ironically, after the stanford loss, ITA gave Alex Clayton the "sportsmanship of the year AWARD". That just shows you what a dope that umpire is.

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 04:51 PM
OK, A POOR officiating costs Alex Clayton the 1st set in the match. SAD SAD SAD. Umpire said he already gave a warning to Alex when he gives him the point penalty. I never heard it. And this Stuck up Umpire does it on a SET point. Game and SET Georgia on a penalty.

He could have gotten it in any of his previous matches. They don't start over for every match. You get a warning on day one, its a point penalty on day two. I think its funny that its bad officiating when the call goes against Stanford, but other players have bad sportmanship.

woodrow1029
02-15-2009, 04:54 PM
He could have gotten it in any of his previous matches. They don't start over for every match. You get a warning on day one, its a point penalty on day two. I think its funny that its bad officiating when the call goes against Stanford, but other players have bad sportmanship.
First of all there is no "warning" in college tennis. The official can give a soft warning, or a caution to a player, but it's usually on a changeover, and not loud enough for anyone else to hear. The first code violation issued is a point penalty. You call other people dopes when you have no idea about the rules and procedures, and you constantly fill up the boards with hot air.

Lindsay is incorrect in that the penalties DO start over for every match. The first code violation in each match is a point penalty, the second is a game penalty, the third is a default.

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 05:01 PM
First of all there is no "warning" in college tennis. The official can give a soft warning, or a caution to a player, but it's usually on a changeover, and not loud enough for anyone else to hear. The first code violation issued is a point penalty. You call other people dopes when you have no idea about the rules and procedures, and you constantly fill up the boards with hot air.

Lindsay is incorrect in that the penalties DO start over for every match. The first code violation in each match is a point penalty, the second is a game penalty, the third is a default.

Woodrow, I see that you're a linesman, so I guess we've got an expert. But unless the rules have changed in a year, I've been told anytime you start an ITA competition, the system runs the duration of the tournament, not each individual match. I'm one year off of competition, and that's how it was for me. But you're right about the warnings, but most officials give a soft warning to start with, though they don't have to. And who have I called a dope?

woodrow1029
02-15-2009, 05:05 PM
Woodrow, I see that you're a linesman. But unless the rules have changed in a year, I've been told anytime you start an ITA competition, the system runs the duration of the tournament, not each individual match. I'm one year off of competition, and that's how it was for me. But you're right about the warnings, but most officials give a soft warning to start with, though they don't have to. And who have I called a dope?
You are thinking of the carry over code violations. You are correct that code violations can be issued after the match, but not correct in your interpretation of how the rule works.

If you get a code violation in your first match, once the match ends, your codes start over. If you throw your racket after the match, then you get a point penalty on the first point of your next match. Then, in that match, if you do something, you would get another point penalty, then a game penalty, then default. It starts over again as soon as that match ends. The codes between matches are not part of the progressive point penalty schedule during the match.

Lindsay
02-15-2009, 05:06 PM
You are thinking of the carry over code violations. You are correct that code violations can be issued after the match, but not correct in your interpretation of how the rule works.

If you get a code violation in your first match, once the match ends, your codes start over. If you throw your racket after the match, then you get a point penalty on the first point of your next match. Then, in that match, if you do something, you would get another point penalty, then a game penalty, then default. It starts over again as soon as that match ends. The codes between matches are not part of the progressive point penalty schedule during the match.

you may be right. i didn't rack up violations, so i could have gotten that confused. were you at the match?

woodrow1029
02-15-2009, 05:08 PM
you may be right. i didn't rack up violations, so i could have gotten that confused. were you at the match?
I was not at the match today, but I am a professional and collegiate umpire

Fedace
02-15-2009, 05:08 PM
Woodrow, I see that you're a linesman, so I guess we've got an expert. But unless the rules have changed in a year, I've been told anytime you start an ITA competition, the system runs the duration of the tournament, not each individual match. I'm one year off of competition, and that's how it was for me. But you're right about the warnings, but most officials give a soft warning to start with, though they don't have to. And who have I called a dope?

don't worry, Lindsay. I was the one that called the Linesman a Dope. In the heat of the match, on a Set point, nonetheless, guy calls a unsportsman like conduct and the set is gift wrapped for Georgia.... and this is on a kid that wins the Sportsmanship Award from ITA...

woodrow1029
02-15-2009, 05:11 PM
don't worry, Lindsay. I was the one that called the Linesman a Dope. In the heat of the match, on a Set point, nonetheless, guy calls a unsportsman like conduct and the set is gift wrapped for Georgia.... and this is on a kid that wins the Sportsmanship Award from ITA...
Fedace, it is possible for a player to earn a sportsmanship award and get a code violation. As I am sure you are aware by your closeness to Stanford, Clayton repeatedly gets point penalties during his matches for audible obscenity because of JC and GD. But, yes he is is a very nice guy and his sportsmanship is very very good.

eeytennis
02-15-2009, 05:16 PM
OK, A POOR officiating costs Alex Clayton the 1st set in the match. SAD SAD SAD. Umpire said he already gave a warning to Alex when he gives him the point penalty. I never heard it. And this Stuck up Umpire does it on a SET point. Game and SET Georgia on a penalty.


When it comes to antics like that, I don't have any sympathy. Clayton is a grown adult, he need not act like that and I am sure he is well aware of the penalty system.

Lefty Spin
02-15-2009, 05:31 PM
I was at the match today and to say that Schnugg only won that set because of point penalty is not completely true. First of all he got to set point by playing agressive tennis. He especially picked up on the fact that Clayton's topspin backhand tends to land short and he really attacked it. He also won the second set without the help of a point penalty. While I think Clayton has top 150 potential I really don't see him making it into the top 100 unless he improves his bachand and second serve. I also think he could improve his strength and fitness.

Quite honestly, I am more suprised about Bruch. I have seen him play since he was about 12. I just think he should be stronger considering he has had four years of training at Stanford. He was limping around a little today and I think if he was stronger and fitter he would not get these nagging injuries. He clearly was not going to win that third set and I know he can play better.

Fedace
02-15-2009, 05:47 PM
OK boys, it was fun staying in chicago and seeing my family. but back to Sandiego i go. Mark my words, Clayton will be top 100 and Ryan Thacher will be top 50 player if he can stay healthy and stay strong....

pandal3oy
02-15-2009, 06:33 PM
OK boys, it was fun staying in chicago and seeing my family. but back to Sandiego i go. Mark my words, Clayton will be top 100 and Ryan Thacher will be top 50 player if he can stay healthy and stay strong....

haha looks like ill be watching the finals tomorrow by myself huh.

went to watch Texas in the morning. we lost again but its ok. even i cant get used to being indoors. give me the blazing sun and humidity please lol.

there was one umpire on court 7. i watched stanford and ohio on that same court. if the player called it out the umpire would immediately agree with the player and i swear he didnt know what he was looking at but just wanted to seem firm on his decisions. i wasnt particularly there for any team since Texas lost, just that the umpire never overruled anything except this one call. Bruch called it out and the umpire overruled it in. people in the stands with me were yelling "it was OUT!!" just because no one could stand him anymore lol.

i dont think the umpire got his eye exam this year lol.

The Wreck
02-15-2009, 06:38 PM
I've seen alot of Georgia tennis (and look forward to watching even more since I'm going there next year), but I have not been impressed with Borja Malo at all. He's obviously got some skills, but he never appears "into" it. Not to mention he lacks the power to keep up with alot of the top guys. If you're gonna be a finesse player like that, you've got to be tough, and I just haven't seen it.

As far as UGA as a team, I also appreciate their attitude. All the players and coaches are really nice folks, and you can't deny their desire to win. I can only hope they keep playing their best and win another championship this year.

JLyon
02-16-2009, 04:21 AM
i dont think the umpire got his eye exam this year lol.

Probably not since he/she was not required to get an eye exam for this year, but they will have one for 2010 season, so do not worry.

AndrewD
02-16-2009, 05:02 AM
That just shows you what a dope that umpire is.

Or the ITA for giving him a sportsmanship award.

woodrow1029
02-16-2009, 07:32 AM
Probably not since he/she was not required to get an eye exam for this year, but they will have one for 2010 season, so do not worry.
Unless he was an ITF bronze or above. Then he would have been required.. lol

Lindsay
02-16-2009, 09:18 AM
Unless he was an ITF bronze or above. Then he would have been required.. lol

Woodrow,

What kind of training do you go through to be an umpire? Does it differ for USTA/ITF/ITA/WTA/ATP? I know I couldn't make it through. I've been told I make the worst line calls in the history of tennis.

woodrow1029
02-16-2009, 09:32 AM
Woodrow,

What kind of training do you go through to be an umpire? Does it differ for USTA/ITF/ITA/WTA/ATP? I know I couldn't make it through. I've been told I make the worst line calls in the history of tennis.
To become a USTA/ITA official, there is a weekend school that all officials must attend annually. After becoming certified, officials will work under supervision, usually as a roving official for juniors tournaments, league matches, or D.2 or D. 3 college matches. Once they show that they have the skills and judgment required to work at a higher level, they will be given the opportunity to monitor their own courts, or work Division 1 college tennis.

As far as being a line umpire, once the official is certified, he/she can go to a line clinic that is usually taught by very experienced line umpires in that section. This usually includes a thorough instruction period followed by on court training. Sometimes for the on court, college or 5.0 players will hit balls, preferably near the lines so that the official can learn the proper techniques for calling lines. Those that show that they can do it will usually be invited to a futures or challenger where they will work on a volunteer basis for a few hours a day during qualifying or the early rounds. Once they prove themselves, they can become part of the paid line crew and work more events.

USTA officials can be chair umpires at collegiate, junior and senior tournaments. To be a chair umpire at professional events, you need a White, Bronze, Silver or Gold badge which is endorsed by ITF/ATP/WTA as part of their joint certification process. White badge umpires work mainly futures and some challengers as chair umpires. Bronzes work mainly challengers, and some early round matches at WTA and ATP events. Silver and Gold badges make up the majority of the matches at ATP, WTA, Grand Slam, Davis Cup and Fed Cup events. There are schools for White and Bronze. Then after that, you are promoted to Silver and Gold based on number of matches, number of evaluations and an excessive number of above average evaluations.

I hold an ITF silver badge since 2004. There are about 60 Silver badges in the world and about 25 gold badges.

Lindsay
02-16-2009, 09:36 AM
To become a USTA/ITA official, there is a weekend school that all officials must attend annually. After becoming certified, officials will work under supervision, usually as a roving official for juniors tournaments, league matches, or D.2 or D. 3 college matches. Once they show that they have the skills and judgment required to work at a higher level, they will be given the opportunity to monitor their own courts, or work Division 1 college tennis.

As far as being a line umpire, once the official is certified, he/she can go to a line clinic that is usually taught by very experienced line umpires in that section. This usually includes a thorough instruction period followed by on court training. Sometimes for the on court, college or 5.0 players will hit balls, preferably near the lines so that the official can learn the proper techniques for calling lines. Those that show that they can do it will usually be invited to a futures or challenger where they will work on a volunteer basis for a few hours a day during qualifying or the early rounds. Once they prove themselves, they can become part of the paid line crew and work more events.

USTA officials can be chair umpires at collegiate, junior and senior tournaments. To be a chair umpire at professional events, you need a White, Bronze, Silver or Gold badge which is endorsed by ITF/ATP/WTA as part of their joint certification process. White badge umpires work mainly futures and some challengers as chair umpires. Bronzes work mainly challengers, and some early round matches at WTA and ATP events. Silver and Gold badges make up the majority of the matches at ATP, WTA, Grand Slam, Davis Cup and Fed Cup events. There are schools for White and Bronze. Then after that, you are promoted to Silver and Gold based on number of matches, number of evaluations and an excessive number of above average evaluations.

I hold an ITF silver badge since 2004. There are about 60 Silver badges in the world and about 25 gold badges.

Wow, definitely wouldn't pass. Where are these schools?

woodrow1029
02-16-2009, 09:37 AM
Wow, definitely wouldn't pass. Where are these schools?
The USTA certifications take place in every section. What section are you in?

Lindsay
02-16-2009, 09:39 AM
The USTA certifications take place in every section. What section are you in?

Eastern and Texas, depending on the month.

woodrow1029
02-16-2009, 09:45 AM
Eastern and Texas, depending on the month.
Im not sure who the sectional chairperson in either of those sections is these days. If interested in becoming an official, you can call the sectional office and find out who the officials chairperson in that section is.

Lefty Spin
02-16-2009, 10:25 AM
Woodrow, I have a question regarding the umpires at the indoor tournament. The players called their own lines with a chair umpire for each match. On a few occassions, a player would call a ball out. The oppossing player would complain only to have the umpire say the ball was out. Then all of a sudden the player who originally made the call would change his call to in and the umpire would change the call. Is there a procedure for this type of situation? It seems to me that the umpire should say he didn't see the line or that it is too close rather than comfirming the call only to have the player change his call and then going with the changed call. It definately did not seem to give the players a ton of confidence in the umpires.

woodrow1029
02-16-2009, 10:33 AM
Woodrow, I have a question regarding the umpires at the indoor tournament. The players called their own lines with a chair umpire for each match. On a few occassions, a player would call a ball out. The oppossing player would complain only to have the umpire say the ball was out. Then all of a sudden the player who originally made the call would change his call to in and the umpire would change the call. Is there a procedure for this type of situation? It seems to me that the umpire should say he didn't see the line or that it is too close rather than comfirming the call only to have the player change his call and then going with the changed call. It definately did not seem to give the players a ton of confidence in the umpires.
It's always tough in college tennis as a chair umpire to get a "feel" for how the line calls are going to go. If the players want to change their call after the umpire confirms that the original call is correct, that's up to them. The official may have actually seen it the way the player called it. Then the player may have looked at another mark and thought that he made a mistake. You kind of want to save "it was too close" or "I couldn't tell" until you really need it. If you use those too often in college tennis, you are going to have the players query a lot more calls. If you see it the same way, you really want to enforce that you agreed with the player. That way, the player has more confidence in the OPPONENT's calls, which is the main thing. Like I said, it's up to the player if he wants to change his call.

ClarkC
02-16-2009, 12:40 PM
Virginia just won the indoor national championship for the second year in a row, in a 4-1 match over Georgia that was very close. Freshman Drew Courtney sealed the win at #6 after suffering back problems in the first set that required a trainer and almost tipped this whole match to Georgia. He came back to win 0-6, 6-0, 7-5. Positions 4,5,6 all went to Virginia.

Nate Schnugg won at #1. He and J.P. Smith of Tennessee looked the most dominant at #1 singles in this tournament, followed by Dom Inglot and Alex Clayton and maybe Farah of USC in the second group.

I have the feeling that, as injuries and recovery from injuries go on for multiple teams this spring, a lot of rankings will change between now and the outdoor tourney in May. It should be a fun spring.

pandal3oy
02-16-2009, 03:09 PM
tough loss for georgia. everything was pretty tight. javier was so close to finishing his match too for georgia. well georgia u did well so keep ure heads up high!

OleNole
02-16-2009, 06:02 PM
Nice to see UCLA take the day off in the consolation final: OSU wins 4-0. OSU sweeps the doubles. Abid and Seguso combine to win 3 games at 1 and 3 respectively. Not a good result against a struggling Ohio State team.

bluetrain4
02-16-2009, 06:49 PM
Great job by UVA. Georgia looks good too. Lots of good teams. NCAAs should be very interesting.

I'm a Northwestern and Illinois alum, so I have to recognize Illinois for some good consolation wins over Tulsa and Baylor and also recognize gthe Northwestern women for winning the Women's National Team Indoor.

Fedace
02-17-2009, 04:42 AM
Stanford Women's team had a very Poor showing in this year's indoors. They need to get their act together soon.

Fedace
02-17-2009, 05:11 AM
It really sucks that this year's NCAA is being held at texas A&M. They have NO webcam to speak of. and this is in little city in middle of texas where there is nothing going on.

Lindsay
02-17-2009, 07:11 AM
It really sucks that this year's NCAA is being held at texas A&M. They have NO webcam to speak of. and this is in little city in middle of texas where there is nothing going on.

Its a beautiful facility, and College Station is 70 minutes from Houston.

pandal3oy
02-17-2009, 07:21 AM
Its a beautiful facility, and College Station is 70 minutes from Houston.

yup lindsay is right. although im a longhorn, A&M wont kill u over the weekend. i remember they have an underground fun center somewhere on campus! hahaha

Fedace
02-17-2009, 04:11 PM
This guy from Georgia, Nate Schnugg. Is he as good as he looked in this tournament ?? He dispatched both Dom Inglot and Alex Clayton in straight sets. I saw him play up close against alex. but his backhand looked very mechanical. He has a short swing on that side so he may get away with this. He kind of pokes at the ball and yet the ball lands deep. so it is difficult to hurt him on the next shot. does anyone know this guy well ?

NickC
02-17-2009, 04:16 PM
This guy from Georgia, Nate Schnugg. Is he as good as he looked in this tournament ?? He dispatched both Dom Inglot and Alex Clayton in straight sets. I saw him play up close against alex. but his backhand looked very mechanical. He has a short swing on that side so he may get away with this. He kind of pokes at the ball and yet the ball lands deep. so it is difficult to hurt him on the next shot. does anyone know this guy well ?

I thought you followed junior tennis quite closely? How did you not know about this kid? He won the Wimby juniors with Kellen Damico 2 years ago.

Lindsay
02-17-2009, 05:34 PM
I thought you followed junior tennis quite closely? How did you not know about this kid? He won the Wimby juniors with Kellen Damico 2 years ago.

And the Junior US Open with Jamie Hunt (Georgia's #2) in 2006.

The Wreck
02-18-2009, 12:54 PM
Schnugg is legit. The kid absolutely creams the ball and in the last year or so he's really developed a more well rounded, consistent game.

Fedace
02-18-2009, 03:46 PM
Schnugg is legit. The kid absolutely creams the ball and in the last year or so he's really developed a more well rounded, consistent game.

He looked like he was using the K-blade tour. Kind of surprising since this is a fairly light racket. I saw no lead added to the head of the racket either.

atatu
02-18-2009, 09:22 PM
It really sucks that this year's NCAA is being held at texas A&M. They have NO webcam to speak of. and this is in little city in middle of texas where there is nothing going on.

But I'll be there blogging and I'll treat any TT'ers who make the trip to a Freebirds Burritto !

pandal3oy
02-19-2009, 08:35 AM
But I'll be there blogging and I'll treat any TT'ers who make the trip to a Freebirds Burritto !

ooo i love those! well the super burning hot sauce makes it taste good haha

Fedace
02-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Who is this guy on Court#6 with black hat who is beating up on Alex clayton like he is a touring pro or something ?? Impressive 2-handed returns.
http://gostanford.cstv.com/livestats/tennis/StanfordTennis.html

Lindsay
02-19-2009, 06:38 PM
Clearly you weren't watching the webcam. That isn't Alex Clayton, its Courtney Clayton.

Fedace
02-20-2009, 07:09 AM
Stanford Moves up to #7 in the nation. Way to go guys, GO CARDINAL.

http://www.itatennis.com/AwardsAndRankings/Rankings/2008-09_DI_Men_s_Rankings/DI_Men_National_Rankings_2_19_09.htm