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MAXXply
01-31-2009, 02:19 AM
Would be interested to read more about this Donnay woodie.
The cover and buttcap logos seemingly mark it from the early 70s before they signed Borg and the plain two-tone PJ is prescient of the later Allwood. No other graphics adorn the racket - just the text-heavy blurb on both sides of the shaft.
Note the endorsement of "Rod Laver" - I thought he was a Dunlop and Chemold man back in those days? Did Rocket just take the money from the-then Belgian upstart?

http://i39.tinypic.com/52j5ns.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/20kf0qx.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/1z2lt0y.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/jkkk61.jpg

yuth
01-31-2009, 04:30 AM
Nice pics, I have Donnay Borg pro, All wood and lady wood.

I prefer Borg pro most.

Bud
01-31-2009, 06:00 AM
The Donnay Super-Dooper 2000 Pro!

It slice... it dices... it even juliens!

:)

Bud
01-31-2009, 06:01 AM
Would be interested to read more about this Donnay woodie.
The cover and buttcap logos seemingly mark it from the early 70s before they signed Borg and the plain two-tone PJ is prescient of the later Allwood. No other graphics adorn the racket - just the text-heavy blurb on both sides of the shaft.
Note the endorsement of "Rod Laver" - I thought he was a Dunlop and Chemold man back in those days? Did Rocket just take the money from the-then Belgian upstart?

http://i39.tinypic.com/52j5ns.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/20kf0qx.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/1z2lt0y.jpg



Cool find, BTW ;)

khw72004
01-31-2009, 08:23 AM
This is a nice find.

plasma
01-31-2009, 08:26 AM
those retro graphics are amazing/absurd...

aussie
02-04-2009, 06:29 PM
I remember buying one here in Brisbane, Australia from I think a hardware store in Coorparoo for something like $25 Australian. Can't give an exact date but it was while I still lived with my parents so I'd date it at around 1975ish. I was using a Slazenger Challenge then and the Donnay played every bit as well as the Challenge. Might even still be at my parents house.

adidasman
02-20-2009, 11:00 AM
Laver played Donnay in Europe - Dunlop in England and Australia, Chemold in the States. That's what guys had to do back then just to make a buck...sad. If I'm not mistaken, despite his deal with Chemold, Laver played a Donnay in at least one of his WCT Finals appearances against Ken Rosewall ('72, I think).

vsbabolat
02-20-2009, 11:04 AM
Laver also had a deal with Snauwaert.

Mick
02-20-2009, 11:04 AM
i have to say, this racquet has the most fine print text i have ever seen in a tennis racquet :)

vsbabolat
02-20-2009, 11:24 AM
Check out the original Donnay that Borg used. It was white and natural wood.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/scan0002.jpg

plasma
02-20-2009, 11:33 AM
deja vu!!! reminds me of how much I worshiped Borg as a young child...thanks for making my day! what is that amazing book! could we see more? super 2000 has graphics that look contemporary by todays standards. Back in its day it must have looked that much more cool!

vsbabolat
02-20-2009, 11:47 AM
^^^^
It was first published in 1978. The photo of Borg is from the front jacket that I took off and put in my scanner. I am afraid to put the book it self in the scanner because I don't want to break the spine of the book, it is 30 years old. There are great photos of Vilas using a Wilson Jack Kramer Autograph, Stan Smith, Nastase, Evert, Laver, Kodes, Warwick, Buster Mottram, Phil Dent, Briam Gottfried with a Wilson Jack Kramer Autograph, and so on.....

plasma
02-20-2009, 12:12 PM
please take photos of some pages if possible...must see those early 80's frames!!!

ericsson
07-31-2009, 02:22 AM
Check out the original Donnay that Borg used. It was white and natural wood.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/scan0002.jpg

Hi VS, that's a Donnay Diamant, it's not the first but one of the later editions.

schu47
07-31-2009, 04:56 AM
I just got Kuebler's book, and it's just full of great information. According to Kuebler, the Super 2000 was one of 12 models called the "Classic Line" made by Donnay in 1976. A couple other models from the Classic Line that year included the Rod Laver Pro; the Diamant; the Kent, which was stainless steel; the Tiffany, "especially made for ladies;" and one called the Mercure, which was filled with mercury. The idea was that during the serve, the mercury in the racquet would rise to the top of the frame, increasing the power. That's one I want to see.

That same year, Donnay also had the Promotional Line, Club Line, Evolution Line (junior racquets) and the Competition Line, which included the Fiberwood and Allwood.


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SnLjXjg_sVI/AAAAAAAAbJI/jINlmAYGTsg/s800/P1020783.JPG
Allwood, 1976; Graphite/Wood, ?; Borg Pro, 1983; Fiberwood, 1976.


I love Donnays, and one of the great things about the old ones, besides the great rainbow graphics, is all the stuff they put on the frame, like that great explanation of all you ever wanted to know on the Super 2000. They also had these indecipherable charts that listed the composition; the Allwood had a little sticker on the throat that identified it as Borg's racquet, without mentioning Borg's name; and a lot of them had that "My Choice," "Your Choice" thing on opposing sides of the frame for determining serve. Nobody does that kind of great stuff anymore.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SnLpqRSMaAI/AAAAAAAAbJ8/XuL6mChDGtk/s800/P1030160.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SnLpqw1DSQI/AAAAAAAAbKA/wKvn6S2Bhhc/s800/P1030161.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SnLprLPBVdI/AAAAAAAAbKE/fy4U0vOhvXo/s800/P1030162.JPG

schu47
07-31-2009, 05:16 AM
Laver played Donnay in Europe - Dunlop in England and Australia, Chemold in the States. That's what guys had to do back then just to make a buck...sad. If I'm not mistaken, despite his deal with Chemold, Laver played a Donnay in at least one of his WCT Finals appearances against Ken Rosewall ('72, I think).

And Laver endorsed at least one other famous racquetmaker -- Abercrombie & Fitch! As you said, adidasman, anything to make a buck. This is a midsize graphite, very much in the mold of the Wilsons of the mid-80s. There's no indication of where it was made, just the Laver autograph. I've tried to find out more about it, but haven't been able to. But it is pretty cool, and hopefully, Laver made a few dollars on it.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SbDBx2hVFJI/AAAAAAAARRY/wsqgJuekvKg/s800/P2129201.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SbDBy2Ol-AI/AAAAAAAARRg/jZAcPr1CBMM/s800/P2129202.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_R75QH658YRs/SbDBzgLLlcI/AAAAAAAARRo/De3reWNDLgw/s800/P2129205.JPG

joe sch
07-31-2009, 05:20 AM
Laver played Donnay in Europe - Dunlop in England and Australia, Chemold in the States. That's what guys had to do back then just to make a buck...sad. If I'm not mistaken, despite his deal with Chemold, Laver played a Donnay in at least one of his WCT Finals appearances against Ken Rosewall ('72, I think).

I find it very impressive that players like Laver and Borg were able to switch rackets models while competing for championships. The donnay borg pro vs bancroft personal are very different playing woodies. The laver models above are also quite different. This surely helped to promote the "paint jobs" these greats were getting modified versions probably spec'd very similar in weight and balance and maybe even composition. Also many of the endorsed rackets were models the players never actually played, for example Kramer and Gonzales probably endorsed more diff models than any players and many were not even top line player models.

Rabbit
07-31-2009, 06:44 AM
I find it very impressive that players like Laver and Borg were able to switch rackets models while competing for championships. The donnay borg pro vs bancroft personal are very different playing woodies. The laver models above are also quite different. This surely helped to promote the "paint jobs" these greats were getting modified versions probably spec'd very similar in weight and balance and maybe even composition. Also many of the endorsed rackets were models the players never actually played, for example Kramer and Gonzales probably endorsed more diff models than any players and many were not even top line player models.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Borg played the same frame no matter where he went. His personal frames were much heavier than those sold to the general public and had special reinforcement to withstand the tensions he preferred.

It wasn't uncommon at all for the manufacturers to create one-off wood frames for their pros. I have the Snauwaert Vitas model that has about a 5" grip and thicker throat and refinforcements. Snauwaert also made a special racquet for Gottfried that had a softer flex and a slightly larger head than the standard woodie.

I still rememeber owning a PDP Fibrestaff strung with PDP Rough Gut and having it break. I took it back to the pro shop where I bought it. They had Donnays as well and had reduced the Allwood's price. I think they were either getting out of Donnay or making room for the Borg Pro. I could get two Allwoods swapping in my PDP. I jumped at the chance to have 2 racquets. I absolutely hated those Allwoods. For me, it was the worst racquet I had ever used. I wound up swapping it for two Maxply Forts. I remember then thinking that I should stop buying stuff I didn't know. Lesson not learned....

Mth001
02-18-2014, 09:03 AM
one called the Mercure, which was filled with mercury. The idea was that during the serve, the mercury in the racquet would rise to the top of the frame, increasing the power. That's one I want to see.


See my post Donnay Mercure Racquet 2-16-2014.
http://s129.photobucket.com/user/iha...65ea0.jpg.html
http://s129.photobucket.com/user/iha...34953.jpg.html
http://s129.photobucket.com/user/iha...bbd2a.jpg.html