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Bud
02-03-2009, 01:10 AM
...then used it all day Sunday.

Man, I'd never played this stick with full gut strung at 43#. I knew from the first hit this racquet was something special.

It reminds me so much of my PK 5G's... with the same solid, slightly muted, vibrationless feel.

Sweet!!!

I could use this racquet seamlessly with my 5G's they are so similar.

Stock specs:
13.0 oz.
6 pts. HL.


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeC_tCZAaI/AAAAAAAAGLQ/J3C2aL1AQd0/s800/P1040577.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDAfLbKYI/AAAAAAAAGLY/ltUHf3_Inb4/s800/P1040578.JPG


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDHjt81vI/AAAAAAAAGMI/uB2lKFwICkQ/s800/P1040584.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDKRebsZI/AAAAAAAAGMY/B9be6FQRPuU/s800/P1040586.JPG

Virginia
02-03-2009, 01:44 AM
There's no doubt this is a truly magnificent racquet - I think probably one of my absolute favourites. I can never pass up the opportunity to buy one and in fact, now have ten of them! Four black originals (one of which I sanded down completely and repainted matt black all over, with no other graphics), three 200G Pro's and three of the newer blue/green models. I suppose I should take a family protrait sometime. I have bags for every one of them too.

Bud
02-03-2009, 02:05 AM
This one is virtually new. The previous owner had wrapped the grip above the collar and when I removed and replaced the grip, it stripped the (very lousy) paint from the frame.

The paint on these frames comes off if you just look at it :twisted:

v1rotate
02-03-2009, 02:12 AM
That's the neatest head protector tape aplication I've seen anywhere. There's not one crease in the whole job.

P.S. Nice Socks! (First Picture)

jorel
02-03-2009, 05:43 AM
...then used it all day Sunday.

Man, I'd never played this stick with full gut strung at 43#. I knew from the first hit this racquet was something special.

It reminds me so much of my PK 5G's... with the same solid, slightly muted, vibrationless feel.

Sweet!!!

I could use this racquet seamlessly with my 5G's they are so similar.

Stock specs:
13.0 oz.
6 pts. HL.




how is 13 oz similar to the 11.7 oz 5g??? (in Bizaro world maybe)

but i agree. the max 200g is a sweet stick... i dont think my onehanded backhand ever had so much stick

Bud
02-03-2009, 11:11 AM
how is 13 oz similar to the 11.7 oz 5g??? (in Bizaro world maybe)

but i agree. the max 200g is a sweet stick... i dont think my onehanded backhand ever had so much stick

Well, my 5G's are a tad heavier. I replace the stock grip with a TW thick leather grip and then re-balance them to stock (about 8 pts. HL) by adding lead at 3/9. They end up at about 12.5-12.6 oz. So, they are very close.

jorel
02-03-2009, 11:43 AM
Well, my 5G's are a tad heavier. I replace the stock grip with a TW thick leather grip and then re-balance them to stock (about 8 pts. HL) by adding lead at 3/9. They end up at about 12.5-12.6 oz. So, they are very close.
no desire to use the heavier 5g pro?

gsquicksilver
02-03-2009, 12:43 PM
...then used it all day Sunday.

Man, I'd never played this stick with full gut strung at 43#. I knew from the first hit this racquet was something special.

It reminds me so much of my PK 5G's... with the same solid, slightly muted, vibrationless feel.

Sweet!!!

I could use this racquet seamlessly with my 5G's they are so similar.

Stock specs:
13.0 oz.
6 pts. HL.


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeC_tCZAaI/AAAAAAAAGLQ/J3C2aL1AQd0/s800/P1040577.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDAfLbKYI/AAAAAAAAGLY/ltUHf3_Inb4/s800/P1040578.JPG


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDHjt81vI/AAAAAAAAGMI/uB2lKFwICkQ/s800/P1040584.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDKRebsZI/AAAAAAAAGMY/B9be6FQRPuU/s800/P1040586.JPG

you strung it wrong. the 2 outer mains need to move 1 hole inside on the top end. bottom end of the outer mains is correct. the outer mains should have an angled look.

jorel
02-03-2009, 12:53 PM
you strung it wrong. the 2 outer mains need to move 1 hole inside on the top end. bottom end of the outer mains is correct. the outer mains should have an angled look.
AGREE..........

joe sch
02-03-2009, 08:45 PM
...then used it all day Sunday.

Man, I'd never played this stick with full gut strung at 43#. I knew from the first hit this racquet was something special.

It reminds me so much of my PK 5G's... with the same solid, slightly muted, vibrationless feel.

Sweet!!!

I could use this racquet seamlessly with my 5G's they are so similar.

Stock specs:
13.0 oz.
6 pts. HL.


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeC_tCZAaI/AAAAAAAAGLQ/J3C2aL1AQd0/s800/P1040577.JPG


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDHjt81vI/AAAAAAAAGMI/uB2lKFwICkQ/s800/P1040584.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeDKRebsZI/AAAAAAAAGMY/B9be6FQRPuU/s800/P1040586.JPG

Nice Job ! Looks just like my rackets as I also like those TW leather grips, or fairways, and nat gut at low tensions, I usually dont go that low but that will really magnify the feel. I also like that thin black elastic head tape all accross the upper hoop. The power pads also enhances the classic look, add some tremlings to really make it classic :)

plasma
02-03-2009, 11:27 PM
you guys are an inspiration. The loss of grip shape is the one thing preventing my original 200g's (1st generation ) from top performance, can't wait to test drive an inexpensive tw leather grip!!!, will post pics once my max's are rejuvinated, head tape idea was also flawless idea, thanks for a valuable thread!!!

Bud
02-03-2009, 11:28 PM
no desire to use the heavier 5g pro?

The PSE? I like customizing the weight distribution on the racquet. The PSE is too heavy stock for customizing.

Bud
02-03-2009, 11:39 PM
you guys are an inspiration. The loss of grip shape is the one thing preventing my original 200g's (1st generation ) from top performance, can't wait to test drive an inexpensive tw leather grip!!!, will post pics once my max's are rejuvinated, head tape idea was also flawless idea, thanks for a valuable thread!!!

Yes, there are two pieces of head tape on there... too easy to scrape up the tops of these babies :)

jorel
02-04-2009, 05:02 AM
Yes, there are two pieces of head tape on there... too easy to scrape up the tops of these babies :)
must really add some stability to the hoop as well... man im jeolous

v205
02-20-2009, 04:18 AM
McEnreo's rackets were strung as pictured. I thought the correct way is is the parellel outside main lines instead of the angled outside main lines.

Bud
02-20-2009, 04:48 AM
McEnreo's rackets were strung as pictured. I thought the correct way is is the parellel outside main lines instead of the angled outside main lines.

Yes, I like them parallel, too!

Don't like the 'correct' method with the two outside mains angling sharply inward.

mwitiiram
02-20-2009, 10:47 AM
Do the Max 200G's hold value like the PS 85? I've got one in about 7/10 condition that I'd like to sell but I have no idea what would be a fair asking price. Suggestions?

Mick
02-20-2009, 10:56 AM
i bought this new max 200g racquet. the previous owner told me he could not bring himself to string this racquet, so he sent me the string in addition to the racquet. i could not bring myself to string the racquet either :)

jimbo333
02-20-2009, 04:23 PM
i bought this new max 200g racquet. the previous owner told me he could not bring himself to string this racquet, so he sent me the string in addition to the racquet. i could not bring myself to string the racquet either :)

An unstrung new 200G is a beautiful thing for sure:)

But what about the feeling of hitting a freshly strung 200G? Maybe even better:):)

pshulam
02-21-2009, 09:14 AM
like the old saying "a mind is terrible thing to waste ..". Therefore, string it and play it.

Bud
02-21-2009, 09:21 AM
i bought this new max 200g racquet. the previous owner told me he could not bring himself to string this racquet, so he sent me the string in addition to the racquet. i could not bring myself to string the racquet either :)

I have that problem with my grommetless Slazenger Phantom... they are pretty rare now and it's never been strung.

plasma
02-21-2009, 11:15 AM
I get these things to play with because the feeling and experience of playing with them is unmatched...string em up!!!!! st. vincent will reward your selfless bravery with good racquet Karma....I cherry popped a new kneissl masters 10! and my sweet black fischer superform is about to loose her innocence tommorow when the worlds fastest stringer, a man who calls himself the "Doctor" ("racquet doctor", otherwise Plasma prefers a female practitioner!) (this is not a joke, he is a speed stringing champion, I've seen it, it looks like bull riding/ performance art/ live painting/ racquet tecking) comes over to Plasmas crib tomorrow to help devirginized some more vintage stock...
everything in the plasma collection eventually sees the court...

party like a Rockstar!!!!

Mick
02-21-2009, 02:14 PM
i understand what you guys are saying but the feeling of having some unused/never strung vintage racquets is pretty good too :)

plasma
02-21-2009, 04:57 PM
make sure you swing them through the air in the middle of the night. I still have some reigonal championship trophies from decades ago that I credit to visualization, watching videos set to relaxing reggae music, and "shadow-stroking"...just like "shadow boxing" shadow stroking builds skill fast! best time to program the brain to remember things is right before sleep...tags don't seem to be of any value to other collectors but I love and cherish them, retro tags on a new unstrung racquet increase the "time machine effect" to a quantum level!!!

Mick
03-08-2009, 09:15 PM
make sure you swing them through the air in the middle of the night. I still have some reigonal championship trophies from decades ago that I credit to visualization, watching videos set to relaxing reggae music, and "shadow-stroking"...just like "shadow boxing" shadow stroking builds skill fast! best time to program the brain to remember things is right before sleep...tags don't seem to be of any value to other collectors but I love and cherish them, retro tags on a new unstrung racquet increase the "time machine effect" to a quantum level!!!

should i swing the racquets with the covers on or off :confused:

jimbo333
03-08-2009, 09:18 PM
If you leave the covers on then it can sometimes increase the swingweight:)

Mick
03-08-2009, 09:26 PM
If you leave the covers on then it can sometimes increase the swingweight:)

i was thinking maybe the covers should stay on to create the illusion that you are returning a hard hitting ball :D

plasma
03-13-2009, 10:48 AM
no, defientely covers off, on some balls (25%) you do a freeze and make a wall out of your body to block the ball back, the rest of the time you want to hear the racquet whoosh through the air. Not with an arm swing though, with a pivot and the entire body as one unit (and the inner body moving first). It's about training co-ordination, looseness, awareness, momentum, balance. The micro adjustments and "WHOOOSH" needed can't be trained with a cover on the racquet. Much of the deadly training is also done in slow motion to awaken and train the inner stomach muscles to move the body instead of the back muscles ... holding a heavy weight far from your body will fry your arm and destroy your career overnight.To master tennis ( or Plasmas "deadly chicken Palm") requires technical perfection. Yet beyond the elusive and complex mechanics are certain non-mechanical intangibles (what the Plaz is currently focusing on). it has to do with the connection between body/mind/soul/karmic feng shui/intention. The deadly forehand can only be attained through meditation and training. The most ferocious champion was once an uncoordinated geek. Buddha bless you
http://i43.tinypic.com/9kuvs3.jpg

eagle
03-13-2009, 11:13 AM
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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SYeC_tCZAaI/AAAAAAAAGLQ/J3C2aL1AQd0/s800/P1040577.JPG


Nice socks Bud. :)

r,
eagle

Bud
03-13-2009, 03:34 PM
Nice socks Bud. :)

r,
eagle

I KNEW someone would comment on the socks :)

However, it took longer than I thought it would!

eagle
03-13-2009, 04:18 PM
Just kidding Bud. :)

So, do you plan to hit with the racquet?

r,
eagle

Bud
03-13-2009, 04:34 PM
Just kidding Bud. :)

So, do you plan to hit with the racquet?

r,
eagle

Already have... it's sweet! :)

markwillplay
03-13-2009, 04:52 PM
aaahhhh yea bud...sweet stick. I am still playing mostly with my 400i's. I don't have my old 200G (someone strung it too tight and it warped) but I wonder now how much they differ. My 400i's are weighted to 12.8 with overgrip at about 8 pts headlight. that is very close to what my 200G's were I think. I think maybe the 200G sliced better but I get a bit more spin I think with the 400i. there is nothing like the feel of those graphile injection dunlops to me. I picked up a couple yonex 002 tours for the modern thing and they have helped me with volleys, but, the control with the dunlop is superior any way you cut it.

markwillplay
03-13-2009, 04:53 PM
by the way, I string my 400i's at 43-41 on constant pull machine and I don't think they would play as good much higher than that. I tried them at 47 on same machine and lost most of the feel.

Bud
03-13-2009, 05:00 PM
I believe I strung this one is the mid 40's with NG.

markwillplay
03-13-2009, 05:20 PM
yup sounds about right. The ball comes off with a bit more spin with the 400i becasue of pattern. that is one thing I used to really like about the 200G is that you could string it low but becaue of tight pattern, you had great control. Never a doubt as to where the ball was going if you struck it anywhere near the middle. I just got so exited reading this thread and seeing that stick that I ordered two thicker leather grips for my 400i's. Enjoy...I bet your serve is on a dime as well.

jimbo333
03-13-2009, 08:00 PM
Have you ever tried the 300i? That's been my usual racquet for the last 2 years. I have found nothing better:)

Suppose the only weakness is for volleys, but luckily I'm a good volleyer, so this doesn't matter:):)

markwillplay
03-15-2009, 01:31 PM
what is the difference in 300i and 400i? Never seen a 300i

Il Mostro
03-15-2009, 01:42 PM
by the way, I string my 400i's at 43-41 on constant pull machine and I don't think they would play as good much higher than that. I tried them at 47 on same machine and lost most of the feel.

Timely post -- I have a minty 400i en route. I was wondering about what to do regarding tension. I think I will go low on this one, even though the "recommended" tension per USRSA is 50-60 pounds. Thanks!

hrstrat57
03-15-2009, 01:56 PM
Nice one!

I still have 3, only 1 is in as nice shape as yours.

One of the true holy grails.....

jimbo333
03-15-2009, 06:22 PM
what is the difference in 300i and 400i? Never seen a 300i

The 300i is stiffer than the 400i, also 300i has slightly smaller head. I've always thought that the 200G sort of came in between these 2, in terms of stiffness. I prefer the 300i:)
The point you made about string tension is really important I think with all of these IMF racquets. I agree completely, do not string them too tight:):)

markwillplay
03-15-2009, 07:44 PM
good grief, the 400i seems to be about 85 or so...300i less than that? I imagine tht stiffer is relative (ha ha). I bet none of these sticks is over 55 flex..mine are 47 and 43 (that one may be older)

Virginia
03-15-2009, 08:56 PM
Most of them are 43 and the original 200G Pro (2 green stripe model) is 32.

SOY78
03-18-2009, 02:27 PM
Bud, what kind of NG is strung in there?

Bud
03-18-2009, 03:19 PM
Bud, what kind of NG is strung in there?

It's Ace Play oily gut :lol:

Somehow, I think you knew that.

SOY78
03-20-2009, 08:37 AM
I knew it looked familiar ;)

plasma
03-20-2009, 12:57 PM
looks like a midsize from a black and white movie, dull muted matching color palette, somewhat stealth
http://i39.tinypic.com/1szb5c.jpg
her sister the 200g seemed friendlier, I tried to kick it with her but she seemed really stiff and stuck up; not one to hang out where I unwanted I decided to move on...

jimbo333
03-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Good to see my friends out there enjoying the sun:)

And it's really important to string not too tight, well below recommended 55, I'd definitely go lower than 50. Then the ball just sticks to the racquet, and flys exactly where you want it:):)

Bud
03-21-2009, 04:40 AM
Good to see my friends out there enjoying the sun:)

And it's really important to string not too tight, well below recommended 55, I'd definitely go lower than 50. Then the ball just sticks to the racquet, and flys exactly where you want it:):)

Agreed... NG at 50# or less and the racquet is one sweet piece of graphite :oops:

plasma
03-23-2009, 01:01 PM
those amazing and precise flex specs describe the word of difference I sensed between the 2 stripe and later editions. Thanks so much, Virginia...
with later versions the ball just goes Meshuginah...???...but with the soft one, it like a slow cream cheese shmear....only it's not just the shmear, you get the whole bagel covered in cream cheese. On an original water bagel mind you! now that's a good thing...

jimbo333
03-23-2009, 05:31 PM
I've never had a bagel! You don't get many over here in the UK:)

The original 82 versions are esily the most flexible for sure, but from 83-87 they really didn't change much. From 88 they seemed to do something different and the frames definitely felt different. And from 90 it felt almost like a different racquet! Lighter for a start!

Bud
03-24-2009, 10:00 AM
I've never had a bagel! You don't get many over here in the UK:)

The original 82 versions are esily the most flexible for sure, but from 83-87 they really didn't change much. From 88 they seemed to do something different and the frames definitely felt different. And from 90 it felt almost like a different racquet! Lighter for a start!

No, you guys eat crumpets and drink tea :twisted:

jimbo333
03-24-2009, 05:59 PM
No, you guys eat crumpets and drink tea :twisted:

Amazingly, I don't like tea, but do indeed like crumpet, when I can get it:)

Bud
03-24-2009, 06:10 PM
Amazingly, I don't like tea, but do indeed like crumpet, when I can get it:)

Crumpets are decent... they sell them here now, too ;-)

plasma
03-24-2009, 07:02 PM
I had NOOO idea what a "crumpet was", I'll be honest though, I can mainline half a loaf of raisin bread in one day, for those like me who had no idea what a crumpet is:
http://i41.tinypic.com/mc5641.jpg
looks like the original "english muffin" plenty of nooks and "crannies"

Virginia
03-24-2009, 10:24 PM
I don't think he meant that kind of crumpet actually - did you jimbo? :)

plasma
03-24-2009, 11:14 PM
it's clear that I don't know a crumpet from a strumpet
http://i41.tinypic.com/2dkmglc.jpg
here's a strumpet that goes for $250,000 (that's the full monty!!!); what a cheap date for those who can afford it! I think she's hottt:
"Of course, naked bodies are no longer as shocking as when Lindsay startled the staid citizens of Sydney and Melbourne in the 1930s and '40s. Even so, the bold creature who dominates Spring's Innocence with her big breasts and peeping pudenda would probably still attract an X notice from the censor if it had not been framed and called "art".

The oil is one of 39 works, many by Lindsay, that Sydney businessman John Schaeffer has consigned to Christie's. The pictures could generate $1 million in total.

Over the past 10 years Schaeffer has been selling many Australian works from his collection while spending millions buying European paintings from the pre-Raphaelite period. He has also asked Christie's to auction a Rupert Bunny portrait of his wife, Jeanne Morel, that also carries an upper estimate of $250,000."

By Geoffrey Maslen
November 25 2002

jimbo333
03-25-2009, 05:09 AM
I don't think he meant that kind of crumpet actually - did you jimbo? :)

Errrrr no:twisted:

But to be fair, I do like all types of crumpet, I'm really not fussy:):)

Bud
03-25-2009, 05:18 AM
I don't think he meant that kind of crumpet actually - did you jimbo? :)

Errrrr no:twisted:

But to be fair, I do like all types of crumpet, I'm really not fussy:)

Is crumpet a semi-derogatory slang term, too? I wasn't aware of that previously :twisted:

Bud
03-25-2009, 05:19 AM
I had NOOO idea what a "crumpet was", I'll be honest though, I can mainline half a loaf of raisin bread in one day, for those like me who had no idea what a crumpet is:
http://i41.tinypic.com/mc5641.jpg
looks like the original "english muffin" plenty of nooks and "crannies"

It's denser, thinner and slightly larger than an English Muffin :shock: :oops:

jimbo333
03-25-2009, 05:26 AM
Is crumpet a semi-derogatory slang term, too? I wasn't aware of that previously :twisted:

Using my pocket Oxford English Dictionary:-

Crumpet noun, mainly Brit.
1.a light soft yeast cake, eaten buttered.
2.Slang for sexually attractive woman.

:):)

jimbo333
03-25-2009, 05:28 AM
I had NOOO idea what a "crumpet was", I'll be honest though, I can mainline half a loaf of raisin bread in one day, for those like me who had no idea what a crumpet is:
http://i41.tinypic.com/mc5641.jpg
looks like the original "english muffin" plenty of nooks and "crannies"

At this moment in time, that's what I want, in fact I'm off to the Bakers right now!!!

Bud
03-25-2009, 05:31 AM
Using my pocket Oxford English Dictionary:-

Crumpet noun, mainly Brit.
1.a light soft yeast cake, eaten buttered.
2.Slang for sexually attractive woman.

:):)

These forums are just chock full of interesting facts :)

Bud
03-25-2009, 05:32 AM
At this moment in time, that's what I want, in fact I'm off to the Bakers right now!!!

Enjoy it! Remember... lots of butter and jam :wink:

Bud
03-25-2009, 05:33 AM
I've never had a bagel! You don't get many over here in the UK:)

The original 82 versions are esily the most flexible for sure, but from 83-87 they really didn't change much. From 88 they seemed to do something different and the frames definitely felt different. And from 90 it felt almost like a different racquet! Lighter for a start!

Now, i'm hungry and will prepare a bagel with butter :razz:

jimbo333
03-25-2009, 05:34 AM
These forums are just chock full of interesting facts :)

Well I like to do my bit to improve inter-continental knowledge LOL, now I really am off to the Bakery:)

Virginia
03-25-2009, 11:32 AM
Is crumpet a semi-derogatory slang term, too? I wasn't aware of that previously :twisted:
No, but I'll leave it to Jimbo to explain its British (English?) connotations. He's more qualified than I am! :twisted:

Oops, I didn't realise this thread had already progressed to page 4 and jimbo had explained the alternative meaning of crumpet. I was interested to see just how he'd explain it! He got around the problem nicely! :)

Bud
03-25-2009, 01:30 PM
No, but I'll leave it to Jimbo to explain its British (English?) connotations. He's more qualified than I am! :twisted:

Oops, I didn't realise this thread had already progressed to page 4 and jimbo had explained the alternative meaning of crumpet. I was interested to see just how he'd explain it! He got around the problem nicely! :)

We use strumpet or tart, here in the states... not crumpet ;-)

plasma
03-25-2009, 02:09 PM
I prefer "harlot" (used affectionately and facetiously) from old 15th century english... middle english (14th century) is responsible for crumpets and strumpets...
-loquacious fallafel boy

jimbo333
03-25-2009, 06:00 PM
We use strumpet or tart, here in the states... not crumpet ;-)

Well I love treacle tart:)

And I am talking about food here, just incase there is any doubt:)