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xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 06:39 PM
Has anybody heard of Reo Asami?....

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 06:50 PM
ya hes really good but is kinda on and off. a guy that i beat 1 and 3, devon sousa, beat reo.

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 06:55 PM
oohh, yeah i heard he won the jr. orange bowl in 2006 or something?
and he goes to the woodbridge tennis academy..i might go there lol

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 06:57 PM
o yeah i mean he's good don't get me wrong. but he's beatable. woodbridge. thats where nathan lewis goes and gage brymer's dad teaches. right?

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 06:59 PM
yeah, they both go there.
but yeah, my friends were talking about reo and they looked at me like i was dumb, lmao.

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:03 PM
ya does joe (digiulio) go there too? haha reo tends to be well known around so cal tennis but since nathans dad was a wimbledon finalist people know him too lol

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:07 PM
haah, yeah i think he goes there!
lol yeah i know, like all the asians know him.. AND I KNOW!
lmao theyre just like, oh yeah that kids dad was a finalist at wimbledon.
haha

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:12 PM
ya i beat joseph over the summer. he has a nike deal and everything. hes ridiculous for his age. haha i hear he lost the quickest wimbledon final of all time it was like 0,1, and 0 lol but still he made it there haha

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:17 PM
niceee, what was the score?
i know! he is!
LOLOL, at least he made it
and he was unseeded!

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:17 PM
4 and 0. i played sooooo good haha i was pissed cuz it was in 18s so it didnt help my 16s ranking lol

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:20 PM
hahaha, ohhh.
dang nice =D
how old are you?

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:22 PM
15. hes like 13 now i think so i got like 1 1/2-2 years on him lol

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:23 PM
ohhhh, lmao.
what school do you go to?

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:23 PM
cathedral catholic in san diego, u?

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:24 PM
oooh, are yuo guys good at tennis?
lol, tesoro high school in orang county.
we sucked balls this season, puhaha.

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:25 PM
haha were really good for girls but guys were decent haha

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:26 PM
lol, im a freshmen, but i heard last season we were really good.
but the coach effed up and picked the wrong girls for the team -_-

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 07:27 PM
lol r girls team is stacked. its ridiculous. r #1 lost like 1 game untill the cif finals haha shes like #2 in the nation or something and are #2 is like 30 in the nation or somethin haha

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:28 PM
:O
i think theres like 2 ranked players on varsity..lol.
they're actually really good though.
haha

scraps234
02-04-2009, 07:53 PM
yeah ive heard of him he play doubles in winter nats with j huang or something like that

xpaulinabearx
02-04-2009, 07:59 PM
ooooooh.
has anybody played him?

tenniscp
02-04-2009, 08:21 PM
ya i beat joseph over the summer. he has a nike deal and everything. hes ridiculous for his age. haha i hear he lost the quickest wimbledon final of all time it was like 0,1, and 0 lol but still he made it there haha

Todd, isn't it? Sam Todd. Couple of corrections, kid. Lewis lost the final to formidable John McEnroe in 1983, when John was at his best and the score was 6-2,6-2,6-2.

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 08:27 PM
Todd, isn't it? Sam Todd. Couple of corrections, kid. Lewis lost the final to formidable John McEnroe in 1983, when John was at his best and the score was 6-2,6-2,6-2.

Oh sorry, I never actually looked it up. Someone just told me that it was the quickest wimbledon final ever so sorry

tenniscp
02-04-2009, 08:31 PM
Oh sorry, I never actually looked it up. Someone just told me that it was the quickest wimbledon final ever so sorry

That's ok, however,there have been quicker finals with a more lopsided scores. The very next year, same genius on grass McEnroe beat another great Jimmy Connors 6-1,6-1,6-2.

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 08:33 PM
really, who? even 2, 2, 2 is pretty quick. It was an umpire that told me that after I lost to Nathan when I was 13.

tenniscp
02-04-2009, 08:38 PM
really, who? even 2, 2, 2 is pretty quick. It was an umpire that told me that after I lost to Nathan when I was 13.

The umpire was good at tennis trivia, but I am better. Connors in 1984 as I mentioned before. There has been 6-0, 6-0, 6-1 win by Don Budge in 1938, but I do not now recall who the opponent was.

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 08:41 PM
haha i see. dang 0, 0 and 1 is bad.

tenniscp
02-04-2009, 08:46 PM
haha i see. dang 0, 0 and 1 is bad.

On a different note, you said you played Di Giulio and beat him. That kid is very solid, what was your score?
And have you ever played Asami, he is one of the strong players that were born in 1994?

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 08:51 PM
ya i took him out 4 and 0. i was playin really good that day. never played asami. played similar oponents though. hes more on and off then joseph. Reo will beat someone really good then lose to someone not as good as him

tenniscp
02-04-2009, 08:54 PM
ya i took him out 4 and 0. i was playin really good that day. never played asami. played similar oponents though. hes more on and off then joseph. Reo will beat someone really good then lose to someone not as good as him

who would you say is stronger Di Giulio or Baughman?

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 08:58 PM
ummmmm id say Digiulio but Asami is definetely better then both of them. Deighton had a good weekend in the 16s this past weekend but I still think Joseph would beat him. Digiulio is a year older though

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 09:02 PM
i mean honestly i think reo would kill me and joseph would probably beat me now. I think I just got lucky that one day

SoCal10s
02-04-2009, 09:23 PM
Reo is a good kid, he's been kind of hurt lately so he's had some bad loses..I don't see him developing any weapons to move him to the next level in the 16s.. I think he's gonna struggle a bit if he doesn't improve to play a big game,he won't be dominating like before.. forget Digiulio when he gets in the 16s and 18s.. no weapons= no wins.. I you want some actions,look for Alexio Halebian..

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 09:28 PM
reo is already 9 in SoCal 16s. i agree with ur assessment of DiGiulio I dont think he will be too bad but not #1 in the world or whatever he was. I recently played Alexios in doubles at Tennis Plaza Cup in Florida. He is hands down the best 14 year old I have ever seen. His serve is incredible for a 16 year old let alone a 14 year old. That guy has all the tools and he straight up battles. He's got a bright future ahead of him

SoCal10s
02-04-2009, 09:48 PM
reo is already 9 in SoCal 16s.

Reo is #9 because he had a good win over Kosakowski who is #1,but after March that win will wipe out and he hasn't had any other good wins,so his ranking should drop ,but then again others will be aging out.. but no way he will be top 3 next year...

kctennis1005
02-04-2009, 09:49 PM
i beat asami this summer in a futures qualifier

kctennis1005
02-04-2009, 09:51 PM
socaldominates, im good friends with ur doubles opponent this wknd...theyre pretty tough

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 09:54 PM
ya they are. especially at doubles. r u friends with both of them or which one? My partner and I are playing really so we'll see how it goes

kctennis1005
02-04-2009, 09:56 PM
ya they are. especially at doubles. r u friends with both of them or which one? My partner and I are playing really so we'll see how it goes

im friends with alex....and ya that was a good win over horea and erik....i saw in the other forum that ur defaulting if u play saturday?

SoCalDominates
02-04-2009, 10:00 PM
not this match but if we win ill have to def. because I have something at 5 in San Diego. Ya Alex is especially strong at doubles so we'll have to play well.

10schick
02-05-2009, 11:04 AM
who would you say is stronger Di Giulio or Baughman?

Di Giulio for sure, there is a whole thread about him playing and doing very well in Europe. He's always been a great player.

SoCal10s
02-05-2009, 11:47 AM
Di Giulio for sure, there is a whole thread about him playing and doing very well in Europe. He's always been a great player.

Deiton is at least a year younger and he has more potential from what I see.. JoDi will peter out when he gets into the 16 and 18s... no weapons= no wins,plus size...

10schick
02-05-2009, 12:14 PM
Deiton is at least a year younger and he has more potential from what I see.. JoDi will peter out when he gets into the 16 and 18s... no weapons= no wins,plus size...

k. I guess time will tell.

Fintendo
02-05-2009, 12:32 PM
Lmao, Lol, Lol Roflcakes.

10schick
02-05-2009, 01:33 PM
Lmao, Lol, Lol Roflcakes. Me lmao too! :twisted:

tenniscp
02-05-2009, 03:31 PM
Reo is a good kid, he's been kind of hurt lately so he's had some bad loses..I don't see him developing any weapons to move him to the next level in the 16s.. I think he's gonna struggle a bit if he doesn't improve to play a big game,he won't be dominating like before.. forget Digiulio when he gets in the 16s and 18s.. no weapons= no wins.. I you want some actions,look for Alexio Halebian..

I totally agree. Out of the three mentioned Halebian is, by far, the best player. He also knows how to win matches and does it in style.

One thing must be said for Asami and Di Giulio, however. I heard people promising dark future for those two when they were leaving 12's. People were saying they never will be top in 14's with the game they have, and yet, Reo was #1 in 14's for a short time and Di Giulio will get there very soon.

SoCal10s
02-05-2009, 05:22 PM
I totally agree. Out of the three mentioned Halebian is, by far, the best player. He also knows how to win matches and does it in style.

One thing must be said for Asami and Di Giulio, however. I heard people promising dark future for those two when they were leaving 12's. People were saying they never will be top in 14's with the game they have, and yet, Reo was #1 in 14's for a short time and Di Giulio will get there very soon.

not a dark future,a player who knows how to win will always win to a curtain extent,but being #1,the best is a harder task for 16s and 18s..

BradBaughman
02-05-2009, 06:09 PM
not a dark future,a player who knows how to win will always win to a curtain extent,but being #1,the best is a harder task for 16s and 18s..

i think Reo will do well , he knows he needs to make some changes in his game and has been working on it ,he has a solid coach , hes very smart as for size its just a bonus!

SoCal10s
02-05-2009, 08:54 PM
i think Reo will do well , he knows he needs to make some changes in his game and has been working on it ,he has a solid coach , hes very smart as for size its just a bonus!

If you are talking about C.Lewis,he's proven himself.. but I see as a bit kind of strange that he teaches his best students like Reo,JoDi,J.Huang and others,to be very consistent and play high percentage smart tennis,and great defense with a lot of patience.. and he teaches his son to go 2 hands both sides and blast off when ever he has a chance... is there a secret he's not conveying ? tricky New Zealander ... smart like a fox...

tenniscp
02-05-2009, 09:04 PM
If you are talking about C.Lewis,he's proven himself.. but I see as a bit kind of strange that he teaches his best students like Reo,JoDi,J.Huang and others,to be very consistent and play high percentage smart tennis,and great defense with a lot of patience.. and he teaches his son to go 2 hands both sides and blast off when ever he has a chance... is there a secret he's not conveying ? tricky New Zealander ... smart like a fox...

Two hands on both sides in men's tennis is slow death. I have never seen this kid play, but I hope he has the best pair of legs on him, because, although rare in men's tennis, two hands will present many problems down the line. The only player I remember with two hands that had some level of success on the pro tour was Jan-Michael Gambill, in juniors-Matt Kandath.

That is a tough task.

BradBaughman
02-05-2009, 09:11 PM
If you are talking about C.Lewis,he's proven himself.. but I see as a bit kind of strange that he teaches his best students like Reo,JoDi,J.Huang and others,to be very consistent and play high percentage smart tennis,and great defense with a lot of patience.. and he teaches his son to go 2 hands both sides and blast off when ever he has a chance... is there a secret he's not conveying ? tricky New Zealander ... smart like a fox...

reo is actually coached by Bij, not Lewis

SoCal10s
02-05-2009, 09:23 PM
Two hands on both sides in men's tennis is slow death. I have never seen this kid play, but I hope he has the best pair of legs on him, because, although rare in men's tennis, two hands will present many problems down the line. The only player I remember with two hands that had some level of success on the pro tour was Jan-Michael Gambill, in juniors-Matt Kandath.

That is a tough task.
Gene Mayer .. top 5 at one time..are you forgetting Santoro already?

kctennis1005
02-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Gene Mayer .. top 5 at one time..are you forgetting Santoro already?

and u cant forget top juniors like johnny wang and alex rovello

SoCal10s
02-05-2009, 10:08 PM
and u cant forget top juniors like johnny wang and alex rovello
jonny who? man that dude sucks ....lol

kctennis1005
02-05-2009, 10:18 PM
jonny who? man that dude sucks ....lol

haha....i dont see why ppl dont think two-handed both sides is good....personally i feel like i have much more power and control when i use two-hands up until the last second.

SoCal10s
02-05-2009, 10:26 PM
haha....i dont see why ppl dont think two-handed both sides is good....personally i feel like i have much more power and control when i use two-hands up until the last second.

you know I tell everyone this" everyone has their own advantages and dis-advantages ,you just have to be smart and use more of your advantages, and hide your dis-advantages"---
I know being 6'5" is great at times but there are times when smaller is better...

region2champion
02-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Deiton is at least a year younger and he has more potential from what I see.. JoDi will peter out when he gets into the 16 and 18s... no weapons= no wins,plus size...

kids like Di Guelio always pick up bigger shots and weapons as they grow older. Most the top players today all started like Di Geulio.

tenniscp
02-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Gene Mayer .. top 5 at one time..are you forgetting Santoro already?

Gene Mayer, yes, however, do not forget that he played end of 70's, beginning of 80's. Technology was very different back then, and it was still old school tennis to a certain extent. In today's game, unless you are a genius like Santoro (there is only one magician), chances are slim.

baseline08thrasher
02-06-2009, 06:28 PM
kids like Di Guelio always pick up bigger shots and weapons as they grow older. Most the top players today all started like Di Geulio.

Most of the top players today all started like Di Giulio?

Is he a small defensive player?


I don't know him,
but isn't that a bad combination if you have a big future ahead of you?

SoCalDominates
02-06-2009, 06:48 PM
Most of the top players today all started like Di Giulio?

Is he a small defensive player?


I don't know him,
but isn't that a bad combination if you have a big future ahead of you?

digiulio hits it heavy and deep and moves you everywhere. In order to beat him you have to attack and get to the net. you have to beat him because he is not gunna lose for you but at the same time he won't hit winners

SoCal10s
02-06-2009, 07:00 PM
Most of the top players today all started like Di Giulio?

Is he a small defensive player?


I don't know him,
but isn't that a bad combination if you have a big future ahead of you?


that's what I'm saying,he doesn't hit winners and he doesn't run like Nadal or hit that crazy top spin like Nadal and I don't think he will be a 6 footer because his dad is pretty short... when he gets into the 16s,he'll beat a few good non-consistent players but I can't see him being #1 like he's in the 12s and 14's(???? on this too).

SoCal10s
02-06-2009, 07:17 PM
Gene Mayer, yes, however, do not forget that he played end of 70's, beginning of 80's. Technology was very different back then, and it was still old school tennis to a certain extent. In today's game, unless you are a genius like Santoro (there is only one magician), chances are slim.

I think Gene Mayer's game may work even today,because he sees the ball early and hits the ball early... he used the Prince graphite and played those 120+ mph serves inside the baseline and with his two hands both sides he had good control of those returns... he was also very deceptive about hiding his shots which is a big thing in pros tennis... the players couldn't tell which way the ball was going until the last moment and also he had great touch with the drop shots and angle volleys ..
I can almost guarantee you that there will be another magician like Santoro coming ... kids are bound to copy him,as there are already a bunch of 2h2s in women tennis today.. and how about all those great doubles players who do those quick 2h2s reaction volleys ?
I don't think there will be a #1 but I think it's in the works,maybe top 20 or so and a few more doubles specialist. I would pay to watch a guy like Santoro play rather than a guy like Roddick ..

tenniscrazed
02-06-2009, 07:59 PM
I keep saying that I'm leaving this thread forever. This time I am because you are all SO LAME. First, if any of these kids play twice their current age will only make them in their mid 20's. Second, if you want real tennis juniors look up Boluda or how about Krajinovic. Better yet keep discussing the virtues of over or undergrown 12 year olds who's toenails are falling out. While they make their calls to the big Wilson for more sticks.

Oh and out of where the tennis hotbed of the world Southern California oop dee doo. I know, it is the wild thrill that talking about each other brings you some form of attention that you aren't getting elsewhere.

You people live in some weird world.

tenniscp
02-06-2009, 08:20 PM
I think Gene Mayer's game may work even today,because he sees the ball early and hits the ball early... he used the Prince graphite and played those 120+ mph serves inside the baseline and with his two hands both sides he had good control of those returns... he was also very deceptive about hiding his shots which is a big thing in pros tennis... the players couldn't tell which way the ball was going until the last moment and also he had great touch with the drop shots and angle volleys ..
I can almost guarantee you that there will be another magician like Santoro coming ... kids are bound to copy him,as there are already a bunch of 2h2s in women tennis today.. and how about all those great doubles players who do those quick 2h2s reaction volleys ?
I don't think there will be a #1 but I think it's in the works,maybe top 20 or so and a few more doubles specialist. I would pay to watch a guy like Santoro play rather than a guy like Roddick ..

In women's tennis it is more admissable, specially since the whole chinese school of teaching tennis relies heavily on the concept of two hands on both sides for the girls. And I do agree with you on getting more pleasure out of watching Santoro's matches as opposed to Roddick's, for Fabrice always brings an element of surprise to normally very straightforward bang-bang, shoot'em up type of tennis.

However, we are not talking aesthetics here but rather the coldness of something called statistics and numbers. Roddick top 10 for the last 7-8 years, Santoro unfortunately can only boast longevity and top 50 ranking.

SoCal10s
02-06-2009, 08:23 PM
I keep saying that I'm leaving this thread forever. This time I am because you are all SO LAME. First, if any of these kids play twice their current age will only make them in their mid 20's. Second, if you want real tennis juniors look up Boluda or how about Krajinovic. Better yet keep discussing the virtues of over or undergrown 12 year olds who's toenails are falling out. While they make their calls to the big Wilson for more sticks.

Oh and out of where the tennis hotbed of the world Southern California oop dee doo. I know, it is the wild thrill that talking about each other brings you some form of attention that you aren't getting elsewhere.

You people live in some weird world.

take a chill pill.. so what kind of attention are you looking for? it's a discussion , a way to kill some time and share a common interest ,, what's the big deal? every one with a half of brain knows that the percentages of someone anywhere making a pro career is slim to non at best,, so what? it doesn't mean anything but a big dream ...and as our neighbors from the south would say "adios amigo"...

BradBaughman
02-06-2009, 10:52 PM
I keep saying that I'm leaving this thread forever. This time I am because you are all SO LAME. First, if any of these kids play twice their current age will only make them in their mid 20's. Second, if you want real tennis juniors look up Boluda or how about Krajinovic. Better yet keep discussing the virtues of over or undergrown 12 year olds who's toenails are falling out. While they make their calls to the big Wilson for more sticks.

Oh and out of where the tennis hotbed of the world Southern California oop dee doo. I know, it is the wild thrill that talking about each other brings you some form of attention that you aren't getting elsewhere.

You people live in some weird world.


boluda is about 2 to 3 inches shorter then my son who is 12 and he is 16 or 17 ,he has and ok game and had some good results , but i like your pretzel logic none of our kids are gonna make yet your sure boluda and krajinovic are heaven sent how are you so sure??, what ever dude , its a forum to to discuss junior tennis , i still remember "YOU" saying your kid wasn't any good thats to bad ,what is it you angry or jealous ? mellow out or be a man come on out meet myself and my kid watch him play ill even buy you a frappachino but like the others said take a chill pill!!!

SoCal10s
02-06-2009, 11:33 PM
hey Brad Deit had some pretty impressive wins in the Fullerton.. nice work..

BradBaughman
02-06-2009, 11:47 PM
hey Brad Deit had some pretty impressive wins in the Fullerton.. nice work..

thanx he did well but he needs to continue, what are you doing up so late ?

SoCal10s
02-06-2009, 11:48 PM
thanx he did well but he needs to continue, what are you doing up so late ?
night owl : always

BradBaughman
02-07-2009, 12:02 AM
night owl : always

we had a late night we were over at a friends they had there massage person work on the boys back, slight pulled muscle. off to bed goodnite

SoCal10s
02-07-2009, 12:12 AM
we had a late night we were over at a friends they had there massage person work on the boys back, slight pulled muscle. off to bed goodnite

hey brad can you still jump rope like those tv boxers.if so ,can you teach some of my student to do that ?
I'll bring them to carson one day and you can show them....

SoCalDominates
02-07-2009, 09:06 AM
I keep saying that I'm leaving this thread forever. This time I am because you are all SO LAME. First, if any of these kids play twice their current age will only make them in their mid 20's. Second, if you want real tennis juniors look up Boluda or how about Krajinovic. Better yet keep discussing the virtues of over or undergrown 12 year olds who's toenails are falling out. While they make their calls to the big Wilson for more sticks.

Oh and out of where the tennis hotbed of the world Southern California oop dee doo. I know, it is the wild thrill that talking about each other brings you some form of attention that you aren't getting elsewhere.

You people live in some weird world.

Brad, as you said he is totally jealous. He is also obviously jealous that we are in beautiful SoCal, which also happens to be the best tennis section in the US. And I mean obviously you come on here looking for attention for deighton *sarcasm* because hes totally not like #1 in socal in the 12s *sarcasm* So tenniscrazed chill out, look up some facts and if you dont want to talk about this why did you come on this thread. no one forced you to. i think it is you who is looking for attention

tenniscp
02-07-2009, 09:36 AM
boluda is about 2 to 3 inches shorter then my son who is 12 and he is 16 or 17 ,he has and ok game and had some good results , but i like your pretzel logic none of our kids are gonna make yet your sure boluda and krajinovic are heaven sent how are you so sure??, what ever dude , its a forum to to discuss junior tennis , i still remember "YOU" saying your kid wasn't any good thats to bad ,what is it you angry or jealous ? mellow out or be a man come on out meet myself and my kid watch him play ill even buy you a frappachino but like the others said take a chill pill!!!

Hey Brad, I understand that you have this personal vendetta going back and forth with tenniscrazed, and that is all fine. However, Boluda is a real deal, he did not just have a few good results, he is an outstanding junior, only 15 years old, already top 15 in the world ITF and is a smaller version of Rafa physically. He will have another growth spurt a bit later and will definitely be a player. Boluda is already 5'8 and as a lot of Spaniards will grow a bit later.

BradBaughman
02-07-2009, 10:18 AM
Hey Brad, I understand that you have this personal vendetta going back and forth with tenniscrazed, and that is all fine. However, Boluda is a real deal, he did not just have a few good results, he is an outstanding junior, only 15 years old, already top 15 in the world ITF and is a smaller version of Rafa physically. He will have another growth spurt a bit later and will definitely be a player. Boluda is already 5'8 and as a lot of Spaniards will grow a bit later.

didn't know Boluda caught up to Deit in height who is also 5'8 at 12 , do i have a personal vendetta,NO , this guy just slams away and it gets old not only at me but at the other people on here "kids" . As for Boluda i know he's sharp, his size will be and issue later, will he get it ? we don't know but to say he's the real deal and the rest of the juniors are not shows some peoples ignorance one thing is true we don't know who's gonna make it but you can have a good idea looking at their "game", possible size, results, sacrifice ect. but "according" to some Boluda got crushed by Tomic therefore he sucks LOL i think it was a couple of breadsticks as they say at the Ausi junior!!

SoCal10s
02-07-2009, 10:45 AM
you beat me to it Brad... sorry as 'the real deal' all I have to say on that is Donald Young.. well maybe a few hundreds more too... there is no real deal,almost in anything now-a-days.. not in sports ,business,life in general... no one can predict the future,it's all a dream away,and if you're lucky,you find your dream... if I can put money on how many "real deals" didn't pan out,I'd be richer than Bill Gates...

BradBaughman
02-07-2009, 11:17 AM
your on the same page !!

GRANITECHIEF
02-09-2009, 09:42 AM
BB, why no Claremont this weekend? Maybe a few withdrawls, and D will be able to get in the 16's, maybe get a shot at Reo.

BradBaughman
02-09-2009, 05:29 PM
BB, why no Claremont this weekend? Maybe a few withdrawls, and D will be able to get in the 16's, maybe get a shot at Reo.

hes done with the 14's or should i say by-passing them he's gonna stay in the 16's and towards the end of the year may move into the 18's

SoCal10s
02-09-2009, 07:03 PM
hes done with the 14's or should i say by-passing them he's gonna stay in the 16's and towards the end of the year may move into the 18's

one word of caution,don't get your hopes up too high,,, it might be nice to win some Nat'l titles before by-passing ... just to know you're the best, before hopscottching 2 years...,

michaelwtennis
02-09-2009, 07:12 PM
yeah he's good. Nice serve and he's pretty consistent.

BradBaughman
02-09-2009, 07:16 PM
one word of caution,don't get your hopes up too high,,, it might be nice to win some Nat'l titles before by-passing ... just to know you're the best, before hopscottching 2 years...,

are plan has never been to be the top junior if we end up with a good ranking or win big tourny's on the way thats a plus ,but what were after is to develope him and make the moves as we feel he is ready to make them if we see any thing we dont like we can always move back down a little do the polishing we need and move on!!

tenniscp
02-09-2009, 07:31 PM
hes done with the 14's or should i say by-passing them he's gonna stay in the 16's and towards the end of the year may move into the 18's

You mean skipping 14's? I do not think that your son played 14's at all. Hope it works out. Connor Farren did it , from your section. I am not sure how he is doing, was pretty good as a youngster. Another example is Justin Crenshaw from either GA or FL. He plays a lot of 16's, just came back to Eddie Herr 14's to try and see where he was and lost in the first round of qualies.

Make sure Deighton gets stronger and is ready physically, avoid unnecessary strain on his still young bones and muscles.

BradBaughman
02-09-2009, 07:59 PM
You mean skipping 14's? I do not think that your son played 14's at all. Hope it works out. Connor Farren did it , from your section. I am not sure how he is doing, was pretty good as a youngster. Another example is Justin Crenshaw from either GA or FL. He plays a lot of 16's, just came back to Eddie Herr 14's to try and see where he was and lost in the first round of qualies.

Make sure Deighton gets stronger and is ready physically, avoid unnecessary strain on his still young bones and muscles.

thanx, the program weve been using has worked well but were always watching for the physical part , we have a team of people around him to bounce ideas off of each other make sure we don't get into a bad position,

tenniscp
02-09-2009, 08:17 PM
thanx, the program weve been using has worked well but were always watching for the physical part , we have a team of people around him to bounce ideas off of each other make sure we don't get into a bad position,

Are you going to try to play Easter Bowl? It is close, geographically. I remember from our previous encounters, that is one of criteria used to choose which tournaments you play?

BradBaughman
02-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Are you going to try to play Easter Bowl? It is close, geographically. I remember from our previous encounters, that is one of criteria used to choose which tournaments you play?

i believe so , he will play mostly in our backyard we dont like traveling to much "for" tourny's unless we can see friends in the spot we would go . are goal will be to in the top 20 by years end in so.cal 16's or better

SoCal10s
02-09-2009, 08:33 PM
thanx, the program weve been using has worked well but were always watching for the physical part , we have a team of people around him to bounce ideas off of each other make sure we don't get into a bad position,
well good luck with your plan,the 14s and incoming crop of 16s boys do look weak except for Alexio,so maybe it's a good calculation at least for SoCal.. Nat'ls maybe different...

tenniscp
02-09-2009, 08:35 PM
i believe so , he will play mostly in our backyard we dont like traveling to much "for" tourny's unless we can see friends in the spot we would go . are goal will be to in the top 20 by years end in so.cal 16's or better

Are you going to play 14's or 16's Easter Bowl? I am assuming 14's, I do not know if D has enough matches under his belt in 16's, or are you going to try getting a wild card?

tenniscp
02-09-2009, 08:38 PM
well good luck with your plan,the 14s and incoming crop of 16s boys do look weak except for Alexio,so maybe it's a good calculation at least for SoCal.. Nat'ls maybe different...

Alexios is definitely the most impressive player amongst the 94's, agreed. SoCal is deep with good players though in 14's.

SoCal10s
02-09-2009, 08:49 PM
i believe so , he will play mostly in our backyard we dont like traveling to much "for" tourny's unless we can see friends in the spot we would go . are goal will be to in the top 20 by years end in so.cal 16's or better

there's no way Deit can get in Easter Bowl 16 and maybe not even 14s(unless he gets a sponsor exemption or wild card,which is highly unlikely to happen),he doesn't have enough nat'ls points,,, but the top 20(in SoCal) from what I see is very doable,especially with the new Block Seedings,but it's gonna be hard to ever touch those top 10 guys,because they'll never play 16s except for maybe Reo and Johnny,but then you'll also have ton of kids aging out...

BradBaughman
02-09-2009, 09:57 PM
there's no way Deit can get in Easter Bowl 16 and maybe not even 14s(unless he gets a sponsor exemption or wild card,which is highly unlikely to happen),he doesn't have enough nat'ls points,,, but the top 20(in SoCal) from what I see is very doable,especially with the new Block Seedings,but it's gonna be hard to ever touch those top 10 guys,because they'll never play 16s except for maybe Reo and Johnny,but then you'll also have ton of kids aging out...

will just play what we can i guess whats the sponsor exemption?

SoCal10s
02-09-2009, 10:19 PM
will just play what we can i guess whats the sponsor exemption?
I don't know but ,I heard sometimes if you're with the USTA elite players development program,the USTA will pull some strings so they can get you a wild card... so do you still jump rope like a boxer?

flat
02-10-2009, 12:08 AM
You mean skipping 14's? I do not think that your son played 14's at all. Hope it works out. Connor Farren did it , from your section. I am not sure how he is doing, was pretty good as a youngster. Another example is Justin Crenshaw from either GA or FL. He plays a lot of 16's, just came back to Eddie Herr 14's to try and see where he was and lost in the first round of qualies.

Make sure Deighton gets stronger and is ready physically, avoid unnecessary strain on his still young bones and muscles.


Connor is in Norcal, not Socal. He just played the 18s in SSRC Excellence in Fresno. Seeded 7, and got to the final of the consolation, losing a close one to the 2nd seed. So I think he is doing quite well in the 18s...

http://tennislink.usta.com/tournaments/Draws/EventDraw.aspx?T=71362&E=7&D=C&S=F

GRANITECHIEF
02-10-2009, 09:01 AM
hes done with the 14's or should i say by-passing them he's gonna stay in the 16's and towards the end of the year may move into the 18's

Hey BB, thats great that he's bypassing DGulio, Pura, Celestine, Dawson, Garcia, McDonald, Mahlangu, Madragellejo, etc. I didn't know that he could beat all those little tykes yet.

Good luck in the 16's this weekend, although the weather might have the last word.

SoCal10s
02-10-2009, 09:15 AM
Hey BB, thats great that he's bypassing DGulio, Pura, Celestine, Dawson, Garcia, McDonald, Mahlangu, Madragellejo, etc. I didn't know that he could beat all those little tykes yet.

Good luck in the 16's this weekend, although the weather might have the last word.

this weekend is the level 2 nat'ls .. and the 16s are in Lakewood ,and it's suppose to rain on the weekend,.. Deit is not in there...

10schick
02-10-2009, 11:03 AM
this weekend is the level 2 nat'ls .. and the 16s are in Lakewood ,and it's suppose to rain on the weekend,.. Deit is not in there...

You're right. He's so not in there, and so low on the alternate list, that 68 competitors would have to no-show. So much for that idea. :oops: :oops: :oops:

10schick
02-10-2009, 11:06 AM
Hey BB, thats great that he's bypassing DGulio, Pura, Celestine, Dawson, Garcia, McDonald, Mahlangu, Madragellejo, etc. I didn't know that he could beat all those little tykes yet.

Good luck in the 16's this weekend, although the weather might have the last word.

Bypassing, or afraid of the result? :confused: Scary group to play! :twisted:

SoCal10s
02-10-2009, 11:39 AM
Bypassing, or afraid of the result? :confused: Scary group to play! :twisted:

all parents have their own agenda for their kids.. I've seen 12 year old girls playing 18s so I'm not surprised anymore of what parents think up .. for me I feel that one has to prove themselves by winning.. winning in your own age division is one of the hardest thing to do,there are all kinds of mental pressures that the player has to learn to deal with... I tell all my players to win in your own division first(Sectionals or Nat'l)then you can do what ever you want after that.. the problem is convincing the parents..
I feel that dealing with the mental pressures makes one stronger,but a lot of parents feel it's an un-necessary burden,so they have their kids play up.. no pressures in losing to someone older... different schools of thoughts...

10schick
02-10-2009, 11:47 AM
all parents have their own agenda for their kids.. I've seen 12 year old girls playing 18s so I'm not surprised anymore of what parents think up .. for me I feel that one has to prove themselves by winning.. winning in your own age division is one of the hardest thing to do,there are all kinds of mental pressures that the player has to learn to deal with... I tell all my players to win in your own division first(Sectionals or Nat'l)then you can do what ever you want after that.. the problem is convincing the parents..
I feel that dealing with the mental pressures makes one stronger,but a lot of parents feel it's an un-necessary burden,so they have their kids play up.. no pressures in losing to someone older... different schools of thoughts...

I agree with you 100%. Besides, they all become peers at some point, right?

TennisCoachFLA
02-10-2009, 02:04 PM
all parents have their own agenda for their kids.. I've seen 12 year old girls playing 18s so I'm not surprised anymore of what parents think up .. for me I feel that one has to prove themselves by winning.. winning in your own age division is one of the hardest thing to do,there are all kinds of mental pressures that the player has to learn to deal with... I tell all my players to win in your own division first(Sectionals or Nat'l)then you can do what ever you want after that.. the problem is convincing the parents..
I feel that dealing with the mental pressures makes one stronger,but a lot of parents feel it's an un-necessary burden,so they have their kids play up.. no pressures in losing to someone older... different schools of thoughts...

Nice post. I am seeing this more and more in Florida also. The parents plot this 'plan' that frankly makes little sense. If they feel the USTA rankings are lame, then forget any tournaments and have your kid hit against the best players you can find.

But they 'play up' and choose tournanaments with very low ranked older kids. What this does is beyond me.

You are so right, a huge part of big time tennis is learning to compete. Even the pressure of being the top 12 or 14 year old, with everyone gunning for you makes players behave different. It is one thing to play the 200th ranked kid in the next highest age group, it is quite another load of pressure to battle the top kids in your division.

Some parents point to Mr. Williams pulling his girls out of juniors. They forget that the girls were a combined 140-3 when he did that! They beat every kid thrown at them, all while under the pressure of being the top guns. They had obviously proven they had talents waaaaay beyond other kids their age. No kid mentioned on this thread has done that yet. In fact, I don't see many quality wins against top players at all.

Frankly I think these 'plans' are designed to keep the parents dream alive by delaying reality as long as possible.

BradBaughman
02-10-2009, 07:45 PM
all parents have their own agenda for their kids.. I've seen 12 year old girls playing 18s so I'm not surprised anymore of what parents think up .. for me I feel that one has to prove themselves by winning.. winning in your own age division is one of the hardest thing to do,there are all kinds of mental pressures that the player has to learn to deal with... I tell all my players to win in your own division first(Sectionals or Nat'l)then you can do what ever you want after that.. the problem is convincing the parents..
I feel that dealing with the mental pressures makes one stronger,but a lot of parents feel it's an un-necessary burden,so they have their kids play up.. no pressures in losing to someone older... different schools of thoughts...

let me do my best to explain , a quarter mile dragster has up to 7000 hp a Ferrari racing at Le Mans has up to 1000 hp who would win in a race ? the answer is there built for different conditions and would fall apart under the wrong element ! >We use the same concept in building Deits game, >are we afraid of the results no! but i disagree with "the no pressure" playing up Deit enters to win! Some will say he has nothing to lose, he could lose the match "thats something".As for mental toughness we know he has that, will he come up short sometimes? yes, But he bounces back and trains even harder..reason were playing him up is "he's big enough, strong enough and it seams to be the right element for him". In the 16's he beat 4 boys 4 years older in strait sets (not mooballing or defensive)and they outweighed him by 40-50 pounds yet this is the toughest section . will just have to see what happens can he dominate his age group 12- 14 if we "change" his training im sure he could. TJ Pura a great player and person dominated in the 12-and 14's and low and behold him and Deit are in the same round at the Fullerton tourny what does that say TJ's playing against jokers don"t think so ,were just using a different road!!

BradBaughman
02-10-2009, 08:06 PM
Hey BB, thats great that he's bypassing DGulio, Pura, Celestine, Dawson, Garcia, McDonald, Mahlangu, Madragellejo, etc. I didn't know that he could beat all those little tykes yet.

Good luck in the 16's this weekend, although the weather might have the last word.

i thought it was funny sitting at the fullerton tourny this weekend and seeing all these seeded 16 yr olds and one of them said "you're not even suppose to be here and now everyone is worried with the way your playing" then high fived him and told him good job. As for your list of players they are all veterans and very seasoned something Deit lacks but can be gained with a busy schedule but not yet, we want to keep him hungry ,this way when he steps on the court he's all business and keeps coming and wont quit!!

BradBaughman
02-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Has anybody heard of Reo Asami?....

As or more on Reo he injured his ankle real bad a few months back and has had a real tough time returning to form ,but he will get there it took him some time to just get confident on his movement , overall he's solid not sure of his age though not that that matters

BradBaughman
02-10-2009, 08:59 PM
Nice post. I am seeing this more and more in Florida also. The parents plot this 'plan' that frankly makes little sense. If they feel the USTA rankings are lame, then forget any tournaments and have your kid hit against the best players you can find.

But they 'play up' and choose tournanaments with very low ranked older kids. What this does is beyond me.

You are so right, a huge part of big time tennis is learning to compete. Even the pressure of being the top 12 or 14 year old, with everyone gunning for you makes players behave different. It is one thing to play the 200th ranked kid in the next highest age group, it is quite another load of pressure to battle the top kids in your division.

Some parents point to Mr. Williams pulling his girls out of juniors. They forget that the girls were a combined 140-3 when he did that! They beat every kid thrown at them, all while under the pressure of being the top guns. They had obviously proven they had talents waaaaay beyond other kids their age. No kid mentioned on this thread has done that yet. In fact, I don't see many quality wins against top players at all.

Frankly I think these 'plans' are designed to keep the parents dream alive by delaying reality as long as possible.

in the 12's his age group he's no.1 sectionally he was 25 -1 over this last year and when he went to the nike national where 16 players who won there section showed up 3 were top 10 nationally he beat them all in stait sets no.1 no.6 no.9 he was ranked 20 at the time ,but like i said we dont play alot and for the nike national we didn't allow him to hit with anyone over 14 to get him ready for it . now were moving on with our plan!!

SoCal10s
02-10-2009, 09:38 PM
let me do my best to explain , a quarter mile dragster has up to 7000 hp a Ferrari racing at Le Mans has up to 1000 hp who would win in a race ? the answer is there built for different conditions and would fall apart under the wrong element ! >We use the same concept in building Deits game, >are we afraid of the results no! but i disagree with "the no pressure" playing up Deit enters to win! Some will say he has nothing to lose, he could lose the match "thats something".As for mental toughness we know he has that, will he come up short sometimes? yes, But he bounces back and trains even harder..reason were playing him up is "he's big enough, strong enough and it seams to be the right element for him". In the 16's he beat 4 boys 4 years older in strait sets (not mooballing or defensive)and they outweighed him by 40-50 pounds yet this is the toughest section . will just have to see what happens can he dominate his age group 12- 14 if we "change" his training im sure he could. TJ Pura a great player and person dominated in the 12-and 14's and low and behold him and Deit are in the same round at the Fullerton tourny what does that say TJ's playing against jokers don"t think so ,were just using a different road!!

BB: by no means am I criticizing your development of Deit and the ways you choose to do things... and IMO I feel Deit is ready for SoCal 16s because of his size .. I haven't seen him play later so I can't say anything about that,but those wins sure prove he's ready... my post was not directed to you,actually if anyone,it was directed to some kids I teach,because I know more of their situation.. every one are not the same as you said.. a bunch of kids skip age groups with different results...I know a few boys who skip the 16s and they are doing OK .. so it's all up to the individual..

BradBaughman
02-10-2009, 09:49 PM
BB: by no means am I criticizing your development of Deit and the ways you choose to do things... and IMO I feel Deit is ready for SoCal 16s because of his size .. I haven't seen him play later so I can't say anything about that,but those wins sure prove he's ready... my post was not directed to you,actually if anyone,it was directed to some kids I teach,because I know more of their situation.. every one are not the same as you said.. a bunch of kids skip age groups with different results...I know a few boys who skip the 16s and they are doing OK .. so it's all up to the individual..

im sorry i meant to post it on its own i didnt realize i quoted you ,and was being general or to all, no offence taken from you at all ,to lazy once i pushed the button to change it LOL how are you doing ?

Tennis_Bum
02-10-2009, 09:52 PM
i thought it was funny sitting at the fullerton tourny this weekend and seeing all these seeded 16 yr olds and one of them said "you're not even suppose to be here and now everyone is worried with the way your playing" then high fived him and told him good job. As for your list of players they are all veterans and very seasoned something Deit lacks but can be gained with a busy schedule but not yet, we want to keep him hungry ,this way when he steps on the court he's all business and keeps coming and wont quit!!

Brad,

What time is your son playing on 2/14? Same place, same time as last Saturday? I might stop by to see how he has developed his game.

Take care,

BradBaughman
02-10-2009, 10:11 PM
Brad,

What time is your son playing on 2/14? Same place, same time as last Saturday? I might stop by to see how he has developed his game.

Take care,

im guessing the same time 8am and i think. its been moved to the 22nd if i heard right cause of the rain! but check the Fullerton touny home page for updates! goodnite 4am wake up

SoCal10s
02-10-2009, 10:16 PM
im sorry i meant to post it on its own i didnt realize i quoted you ,and was being general or to all, no offence taken from you at all ,to lazy once i pushed the button to change it LOL how are you doing ?

BB: I'm doing good, I have a bunch of over-achieving students and they've doing OK in the past tournaments.. most of my students are all straight A students and tennis is really not their first priority .. while playing less than 10 hours a week to be ranked in the top 30 SoCal is really a great feat..and I have 3 in the top ten... we'll get together sometimes soon... call me if you have time to come over to practice...

BradBaughman
02-11-2009, 09:20 PM
BB: I'm doing good, I have a bunch of over-achieving students and they've doing OK in the past tournaments.. most of my students are all straight A students and tennis is really not their first priority .. while playing less than 10 hours a week to be ranked in the top 30 SoCal is really a great feat..and I have 3 in the top ten... we'll get together sometimes soon... call me if you have time to come over to practice...

socal send me your no. again through my youtube mail , we can try and get together my schedule is so busy but would love to try a make it happen ,will you be at Fullerton for the next rounds when they happen?

SoCal10s
02-11-2009, 10:07 PM
socal send me your no. again through my youtube mail , we can try and get together my schedule is so busy but would love to try a make it happen ,will you be at Fullerton for the next rounds when they happen?

Fullerton just got re-scheduled bumping out the Whittier Gene Jung... so Feb. 21-22 .. we'll be there too.. cya ...