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plasma
02-07-2009, 10:32 AM
I was worried, would it be too heavy?, nope, not at all, doesn't feel too heavy like some vintage racks, wheh! it cuts through the air just like a prostaff. Next concern, would the headsize be too small??? NO!!! it looks just smaller than a prostaff,!!!!yay... and not so tiny like the kneissl masters to be impractical for modern use...
http://i39.tinypic.com/293zzgz.jpg
I heard some bs stats about its head-size, don't believe the propaganda and hype, this thing is just under 85,...perfect!!!!
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qtbm11.jpg
would love to find another superform to match this newb! my silver superform powerspot has as much playability as the ps 85, and can produce some insane precision winners that open throats cannot! this feels more manuverable though with the smaller headsize...
http://i41.tinypic.com/23w1dfp.jpg
and their not fugly like some racquets, in fact next to winning with a kneissl masters or gtx, you can't look more badass on the court....darned Austrians, why do they make everything so good?

Virginia
02-07-2009, 11:09 AM
Fischer made quite a number of racqets in the Superform range - I think Stan Smith played with one, didn't he? I think the frame shape is very interesting and the one pictured looks amazing. Once again, I'm envious. :)

Which model(s) do you have?

plasma
02-07-2009, 11:46 AM
I have a whole bunch, many in my mono-shaft thread. I am envious of other racquet sports, where players can swing full force freely. Monoshafts provide this feeling, hitting a ball with a stick, whack!!! A new mono 04, 2 futura Lites, the original superform and the Powerspot. The powerspot is the silver one Anders Jarryd played, it's a real players racquet. I can't say enough about the superform original though. Just swinging it through the air I can tell it's going to be heavenly, the headsize is just the right proportion to take immense cuts at the ball efforlessly, swinging full force without hitting the fence.
http://i43.tinypic.com/219sy9u.jpg
Be warned though, although this racquet looks similar to kneissls, which are soft/stiff/crisp and have amazing feel, the powerspot is a stiff performance racquet. Would love to find another in that same mold, but first I am on the trail for another original superform!!!

gymrat76
02-07-2009, 05:17 PM
... and not so tiny like the kneissl masters to be impractical for modern use...
What??? Is this the end of the world??
I thought you would prefer busting balls with an air rifle even over a passionful of night w/ Kournikova!
And now you think Kneissl is too tiny for ya?? Shame on ya, Dan! You were my hero! :lol:

gymrat76
02-07-2009, 05:20 PM
Btw- with all due respect to that kool-lookin fischer you got there...the white prince kneissl would level the *** of that fischer any day n nite! :)

plasma
02-07-2009, 07:12 PM
I'll definetely choose the night with Kournikova, um, but just out of curiosity what is the gripsize and condition on the kneissl???....
as far as playability, the silver fischer is another perfect frame for freaks like you who blast ten quarters on a bench with no warm up, wonder if you've got and wind to back it up though???lol....passing shots with the prostaff might have an error margin of up to a foot, the accuracy of the silver fischer is within a half an inch at fourty feet, Mel: austria vs. china, we're talking craftsmanship and engineering and not martial arts mind you)....
http://i40.tinypic.com/evaptf.jpg
picture of the young plasma age 11: "Flexing" before 12 and under B third round slugfest!

khw72004
02-07-2009, 07:59 PM
I was worried, would it be too heavy?, nope, not at all, doesn't feel too heavy like some vintage racks, wheh! it cuts through the air just like a prostaff. Next concern, would the headsize be too small??? NO!!! it looks just smaller than a prostaff,!!!!yay... and not so tiny like the kneissl masters to be impractical for modern use...
http://i39.tinypic.com/293zzgz.jpg
I heard some bs stats about its head-size, don't believe the propaganda and hype, this thing is just under 85,...perfect!!!!
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qtbm11.jpg
would love to find another superform to match this newb! my silver superform powerspot has as much playability as the ps 85, and can produce some insane precision winners that open throats cannot! this feels more manuverable though with the smaller headsize...
http://i41.tinypic.com/23w1dfp.jpg
and their not fugly like some racquets, in fact next to winning with a kneissl masters or gtx, you can't look more badass on the court....darned Austrians, why do they make everything so good?

Is that your arrow plus in the back ground? If it is post it up some where else.

Lets get back to the subject.

Is that guy above wearing make up or something?

plasma
02-07-2009, 09:28 PM
no, that's a normal sweede. Had the most mechanical and least fluid, game ever. Muscled every ball...very Thomas Musterish...

Rorsach
02-07-2009, 09:50 PM
Right then, here we go again:

An Adidas "Boron Big" and a tiny Fischer Superglass.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2842/img1107ly0.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1107ly0.jpg)

A Fischer Superform XL
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5185/fischersuperformxlqo7.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fischersuperformxlqo7.jpg)

A Fischer Powerspot
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2748/img1072ip8.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1072ip8.jpg)

And, of course, the Prince Mono.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6703/img0272hr2.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0272hr2.jpg)

Rorsach
02-07-2009, 09:53 PM
I've since sold the Superform XL and the Powerspot, but i just found 2 more Superform XL at my local "supplier" for the enormous price of 65 cents for the 2 (they ask for 1 euro per kilo of whatever):

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8830/img1117vx1.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1117vx1.jpg)

plasma
02-07-2009, 10:13 PM
I am so jealous!!!! you must have good karma!!! what is the headsize on the adidas big boron?, I want one, not only is it one of a kind, in terms of playability and nostalgia: it looks point and shoot...can't say enough about Austrian playability, especially monoshafts, think bmw, wilson is ford!!!
you're fischer monoshafts are some of the best racquets ever, made for precise accurate playability, nice score!!!
more photo angles of big boron please, maybe you could put it atop an 85 wilson for comparrison???, best racquet posted all month, I love it!

Virginia
02-07-2009, 10:26 PM
Great stuff, Rorsach! I have the Mono (new), along with the very nice Mach 1000, also new. :)

plasma
02-07-2009, 10:36 PM
Virginia, the best part of these guys/gals is their names: a graphite fischer called the president, and a wood monoshaft called the senator! not only beautiful and highly playable but also silly retro names make them loveable! Early 70's composite monoshafts are inspiring!

Virginia
02-08-2009, 12:53 AM
Do you know, I actually have a rather nice wooden racquet made by Kennedy and guess what its model name is? Yep, it's "President"!

I've just bought a very old Slazenger (issued in 1927 but they were made until 1937) and it's called "Queens".

I'm sure we could all think of some other frames with interesting names. Maybe we should start a thread about it.

plasma
02-08-2009, 08:58 AM
many people don't realize that the same innovations that exist in racquets today existed in the 20's and 30's...I enjoy retro names and graphics, escpecially 70's retro graphics, women's racquets (a lost concept), and 70's and 80's racquet names...the cornier and cheesier the better!!!

Virginia
02-08-2009, 09:50 AM
I have a few women's racquets - two Kawasaki Lady's, a Puma Lady (which is new and absolutely gorgeous - it came out in 1988 ) and an equally delightful Davis Lady Elite, which a very dear friend gave me.

plasma
02-08-2009, 11:52 AM
those names aren't too bad, some Ladies racquets names remind me of the film anchorman, with over the top names remeniscent of a bygone era...your's seem quit tame though...can we see the Puma Lady? I think maybe you should start a ladies racquet thread, dedicated to women's racquets...??????...!!!!!!

retrowagen
02-09-2009, 11:16 AM
Anders Jarryd never used the Powerspot. He actually used (and is pictured above with) a Stan Smith Superform XL.
The two models were available concurrently, and had similar paint schemes, but the Powerspot had a rounded hoop whilst the Superform had the squared-off head - more pentagonal in face shape than teardrop (Powerspot). The Powerspot was Fischer's entry-level monoshaft composite frame circa 1985-1986; the Superform their elite monoshaft composite; much stiffer and crisper overall.

Jan Gunnarson, Jo Durie, and Jonas B. Svensson (among others) also used the Superform during this time frame.

plasma
02-10-2009, 12:12 AM
thanks for the info, I don't know beans about fischer monoshafts but I think they're awesome, knowing that my powerspot is "low end" and still blows away my prostaff on several levels, makes me want to try the other top fischers...I saw an Eliptic on the bay 2 months ago, I forgot that it was you who was after them...never seen one before but didn't look like anything impressive, what's so special about them???

retrowagen
02-11-2009, 10:25 PM
I saw an Eliptic on the bay 2 months ago, I forgot that it was you who was after them...never seen one before but didn't look like anything impressive, what's so special about them???

Nothing special about them...




...until I get one in my hand and am on the other side of the net from you... ;-)

Bud
02-11-2009, 10:51 PM
Nothing special about them...




...until I get one in my hand and am on the other side of the net from you... ;-)

Lol... Any pics of them?

Rorsach
02-11-2009, 11:58 PM
Is there any difference between a Superform XL and a Superform XL Stan Smith, or is it just cosmetics? The shape is exactly the same.

retrowagen
02-12-2009, 09:01 AM
Is there any difference between a Superform XL and a Superform XL Stan Smith, or is it just cosmetics? The shape is exactly the same.
Cosmetics only...

retrowagen
02-12-2009, 09:03 AM
Lol... Any pics of them?
Not right now. The mold looks like the earlier Pro #1 98 sq-in with the angular "gussets" at the three corners of the open throat, but the beam is rather different.

jetlee2k
02-12-2009, 12:02 PM
some nice mono in here.. I guess I have to post my MONO collection after I am back from my bussiness trip..

jimbo333
02-16-2009, 05:15 AM
Not right now. The mold looks like the earlier Pro #1 98 sq-in with the angular "gussets" at the three corners of the open throat, but the beam is rather different.

I have one of these Elliptical Fischers from 93. It is indeed a superb racquet!!!

Again at the end of the month, when I get my camera, will post pics:)

plasma
02-16-2009, 11:05 AM
let's see those monoshafts pls Jet..I can't wait!!!!

Rorsach
02-16-2009, 11:14 AM
I forgot one of my Fischer Superforms. It isn't a mono, but a Superform Tuning:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8934/fischer1iy7.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fischer1iy7.jpg)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6606/fischer2nn6.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fischer2nn6.jpg)

jimbo333
02-16-2009, 02:27 PM
I forgot one of my Fischer Superforms. It isn't a mono, but a Superform Tuning:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8934/fischer1iy7.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fischer1iy7.jpg)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6606/fischer2nn6.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fischer2nn6.jpg)

Hi, I actually have one of these Superform Tuning, but I've lost the Key attachment, so I can't "tune" it:(

If you or anyone has one, please let me know, as I obviously can't find another. I may have to buy another one of these racquets just to get the Key attachment!!!

plasma
02-16-2009, 05:46 PM
that's what I love about my puma super, puma top pro, and puma winner, just stick a quarter in the buttcap and tune away. I have a collapsable snauwaert that I'm dying to take apart, but I don't have keys or instructions...how could the manufacturers not have known this would happen???

dataseviltwin
02-16-2009, 09:22 PM
how much...? dataseviltwin@gmail.com

plasma
02-16-2009, 09:55 PM
I've already got dibs on it...sorry

Rorsach
02-16-2009, 10:04 PM
It's still mine for another day :P

Virginia
02-17-2009, 12:26 AM
that's what I love about my puma super, puma top pro, and puma winner, just stick a quarter in the buttcap and tune away. I have a collapsable snauwaert that I'm dying to take apart, but I don't have keys or instructions...how could the manufacturers not have known this would happen???
You're supposed to follow your nose, plasma. :)

Which one do you have, the green one or the red one? I think they brought out two versions of the Ellipse Touch-F (mine is green on one side and black on the other - European model).

I haven't "decomposed" (as my Japanese pen pal describes it) mine yet, but from what I can gather, you just need to find a tool of some description (like an alum key or screw driver) that will fit into that shaped depression in the butt cap and unscrew!

Rorsach
02-17-2009, 12:31 AM
I have a collapsable snauwaert that I'm dying to take apart, but I don't have keys or instructions.

Or just loan it to Safin for a few minutes.

jimbo333
02-17-2009, 07:34 AM
Seriously, does anyone have any ideas if I can get the "key attachment" for my Fischer Superform Tuning anywhere?

There must be one out there somewhere!!!

plasma
02-18-2009, 12:40 AM
The tuning and the fischer superform mid are two open throats which I consider a part of this historic line. They share the same headshape and appear to be from the same era. As far as finding a key to my Elipse, the mechanism seems fragile unlike my rugged almost industrial PCS's on my pumas. I'm still curious to collapse it just so I can stealthfully jump on a practice court after initially appearing not to have a racquet!!! Would love to see pics of the open throat superform mid or tuning next to a monoshaft fischer.

jimbo333
02-18-2009, 05:04 PM
The tuning and the fischer superform mid are two open throats which I consider a part of this historic line. They share the same headshape and appear to be from the same era. As far as finding a key to my Elipse, the mechanism seems fragile unlike my rugged almost industrial PCS's on my pumas. I'm still curious to collapse it just so I can stealthfully jump on a practice court after initially appearing not to have a racquet!!! Would love to see pics of the open throat superform mid or tuning next to a monoshaft fischer.

Well you will see photos of exactly that in only 10 days when I get my digital camera!!

In fact I'm going to post many photos of my favourite racquets for all to enjoy:)

plasma
02-18-2009, 08:47 PM
about to string up my brand new fischer superform! does anyone know the reccomended tension or stringtype on this racquet? The silver powerspot is able to hit targets within fractions of an inch. Monoshafts let you level balls more accurately than open throats.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2kkopg.jpg
The powerspot is a true sure shot weapon. austrian craftsmanship and engineering at its finest. Too much pop for me though as the headsize (90?) is just a skoche too big for me...can't wait to open up some fresh cans of you know what with the original superform...feels more manuverable than a ps 6.1 classic from shadow stroking I've done.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2149swp.jpg
d*mn, they don't make em like this any more...

adidasman
02-20-2009, 10:54 AM
Ooh la la. I still have a Superform Mid, the chocolate brown one with the orange pinstripes - the first racquet I ever saw with a damper included. Sweet stuff.

plasma
02-20-2009, 11:45 AM
a friend has an SFmid and says it plays incredibly. not surprising, Fischers are crafted like BMW's. I've been trying to get that and a txp off of him for ages and that superform mid, could we see some pics pls???, guess no one has a silver stan smith xl, would love to get that one as it looks to have the original superform headshape 77(?) wheras the mids and some monoshafts such as the president and Powerspot look to be 90(?)ish

proracketeer
02-15-2010, 02:04 AM
can we see the Puma Lady?

found the picture, but can you tell us a bit, how it plays?

peter becker
02-15-2010, 03:36 AM
Here are some pics of my Puma Lady

http://i46.tinypic.com/33nw28g.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ajcp3s.jpg

peter becker
02-15-2010, 03:38 AM
And these are some of my MONO racquets

http://i50.tinypic.com/2568bo7.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/ff7otu.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/34o8rhi.jpg

proracketeer
02-15-2010, 03:50 AM
Here are some pics of my Puma Lady


... and how does it feel and play? please share your thoughts.

peter becker
02-15-2010, 04:00 AM
... and how does it feel and play? please share your thoughts.

For me it is very similar to the Puma becker super, though has a bit more flex, or more so similar to the vilas.

proracketeer
02-15-2010, 05:05 AM
For me it is very similar to the Puma becker super, though has a bit more flex, or more so similar to the vilas.

Thank you, Sir. The 'Lady' is a beauty. But why a plastic bridge in '88?

peter becker
02-15-2010, 06:02 PM
Thank you, Sir. The 'Lady' is a beauty. But why a plastic bridge in '88?

yeah i'm not sure why the plastic throat, really wish it was all graphite construction, but then again that is what makes it different and unique

retrowagen
02-16-2010, 11:43 AM
yeah i'm not sure why the plastic throat, really wish it was all graphite construction, but then again that is what makes it different and unique

It's a frame that was designed a few years prior, and Puma is/was a small tennis company, so it could not afford to make big changes annually. However, in the mid-1980's there were plastic-bridged composites from Voelkl (including their best, pro-level frames), Prince (Precision Graphite), Dunlop, Snauwaert, and others... usually second- or third-rate frames (cheaper), but good for beginners or those wanting to move from aluminum to composites without breaking the bank.

proracketeer
02-25-2010, 11:07 PM
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/proracketeer/100_0747.jpg

Rorsach
12-13-2010, 07:31 AM
Found another Superform., The same mold as The Superform Open (red), only it's the Sperform Open Team (white). I know there's at least one more frame in this series as my cousin used to play with one 20 years ago, a matte black on with white lettering.

Here's the Open Team:

http://i.imgur.com/VVrj3.jpg

retrowagen
12-13-2010, 08:59 AM
Found another Superform., The same mold as The Superform Open (red), only it's the Sperform Open Team (white). I know there's at least one more frame in this series as my cousin used to play with one 20 years ago, a matte black on with white lettering.


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/retrowagen/Fischer/fischer_2.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/retrowagen/Fischer/fischer_1.jpg

Rorsach
12-13-2010, 09:30 AM
Oooohhhh, beautiful.

Too bad the idiot of a cousin cracked his when he lost a matchto me during the club championships, he threw it from the baseline into the netpost.

Anymore in this line and/or any idea what the specs are of these sticks?

retrowagen
12-13-2010, 11:37 AM
Oooohhhh, beautiful.

Anymore in this line and/or any idea what the specs are of these sticks?
Sorry, I sold this Superform Open Team Match (a tennis racquet's model name could hardly be any longer!) on to another TTW Fischer enthusiast a while ago.

I think it weighed in circa 12.0 ozs. and was about 7 pts. headlight. Not too stable on off-centre hits, as I recall, and a little trampoliney with those long mains...

The other models I remember from this mould were the first: The Superform Open Mid and Superform Tuning, both from 1985/6. The red Superform Open Pro, white Superform Open Team, and black Superform Open Team Match came out in 1987, I think.