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Bud
02-11-2009, 10:10 PM
I acquired this beauty recently from another TT member (pics below).

I replaced the iPrestige CAP grommets with Microgel Prestige CAP grommets, added a leather grip and took measurement specs from start to finish.

Head Club Pro Specifications

Head size: 89.5 sq. in.
String pattern: 18x20
Weight: 13.5 oz. (382 grams)
Balance: 9 pts. HL
SW: 350??
Stiffness: flexible (exact number ?)
Material: tubular graphite and fiberglass

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Naked frame (no grip, grommets or strings)

Weight: 10.9 oz. (310 grams)
Balance: 13 pts. HL.

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With TW thin leather grip (no grommets or strings)

Weight: 11.8 oz. (334 grams)
Balance: 18 pts. HL.

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With MG Prestige mid CAP grommets (no strings)

Weight: 12.8 oz. (364 grams)
Balance: 12 pts. HL.

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Completely strung with 16g Ace Play natural gut

Weight: 13.5 oz. (382 grams)
Balance: 9 pts. HL.

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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPGysMf9cI/AAAAAAAAGmw/AKc0C8Mv7j0/s800/P1040680.JPG


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPGzCbrHqI/AAAAAAAAGm8/NjbRW_658Kg/s800/P1040681.JPG


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPGzvhP1cI/AAAAAAAAGnE/QLwVH_EAe94/s800/P1040682.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPHBoe6NmI/AAAAAAAAGoo/eNQwypii4o0/s800/P1040696.JPG


Additional Pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/sbinsdca/HeadClubPro2RedOrange#

Bud
02-11-2009, 10:10 PM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPG5IwhgZI/AAAAAAAAGn0/rIOLQHTpxUQ/s800/P1040689.JPG


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPG7hEjwoI/AAAAAAAAGoI/_lW4mBuBn3s/s800/P1040691.JPG


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPG9bSU6lI/AAAAAAAAGoQ/-FwZxaEdslI/s800/P1040692.JPG


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SZPG-vQ8nII/AAAAAAAAGoY/ZujvcCeQFjc/s800/P1040694.JPG


Additional Pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/sbinsdca/HeadClubPro2RedOrange#

Thaychua
02-11-2009, 10:17 PM
Wow that is one nice looking PJ and it appears to be in pristine condition too. I haven't seen one of these before. Have you taken it out for a hit yet?
beautiful frame.

Thaychua
02-11-2009, 10:18 PM
are my eyes playing tricks on me or is the recommended string tension 55-85? :shock:

Thaychua
02-11-2009, 10:20 PM
Geeesh...i have to say it again. That darn paintjob is so beautiful.

retrowagen
02-11-2009, 10:21 PM
Should be fun. I used this model (a previous PJ of the same) for clay season, 1988... closest feel in a "conventional" racquet approximating that of the Max 200g, believe it or not! (and yes, the Club Pro will not only feel like a Max 200g, it will also quickly "potato chip" like said Max 200g if strung at over 62 lbs or so...)

Bud
02-11-2009, 10:44 PM
Wow that is one nice looking PJ and it appears to be in pristine condition too. I haven't seen one of these before. Have you taken it out for a hit yet?
beautiful frame.

Taking it out, tomorrow! :)

P.S. Putting lots of Head head tape on it, too!

Bud
02-11-2009, 10:46 PM
are my eyes playing tricks on me or is the recommended string tension 55-85? :shock:

It's your eyes... it's 55-65 lbs. ;-)

I strung it at 50# on a dropweight/CP machine.

:)

Bud
02-11-2009, 10:47 PM
Should be fun. I used this model (a previous PJ of the same) for clay season, 1988... closest feel in a "conventional" racquet approximating that of the Max 200g, believe it or not! (and yes, the Club Pro will not only feel like a Max 200g, it will also quickly "potato chip" like said Max 200g if strung at over 62 lbs or so...)

Ahhhh... man, I'd hate to see this beauty 'potato chip'... I'll keep it at 50# with NG :)

Bud
02-11-2009, 10:48 PM
Should be fun. I used this model (a previous PJ of the same) for clay season, 1988... closest feel in a "conventional" racquet approximating that of the Max 200g, believe it or not! (and yes, the Club Pro will not only feel like a Max 200g, it will also quickly "potato chip" like said Max 200g if strung at over 62 lbs or so...)

I have a couple other Club Pro's that are blue-ish.

plasma
02-11-2009, 11:37 PM
a pj that just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside...

Thaychua
02-12-2009, 12:02 AM
Taking it out, tomorrow! :)

P.S. Putting lots of Head head tape on it, too!

Let us know how that goes. i mean I can always take it off your hands if it doesn't go so well. :wink:

Also, when you were replacing the grip to leather, does the racket have a pallet system or a mold on handle?

plasma
02-12-2009, 12:11 AM
can we see its powder blue 89.5 alter ego pls? a vintage stencil (not the new version) would be icing on the cake...

Bud
02-12-2009, 12:46 AM
a pj that just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside...

Like a tropical sunset! :)

Bud
02-12-2009, 12:47 AM
Let us know how that goes. i mean I can always take it off your hands if it doesn't go so well. :wink:

Also, when you were replacing the grip to leather, does the racket have a pallet system or a mold on handle?

I don't believe it was a pallet system.

If it was, it definitely was unlike the current Head pallet system.

Bud
02-12-2009, 12:54 AM
can we see its powder blue 89.5 alter ego pls? a vintage stencil (not the new version) would be icing on the cake...

I also have this same racquet (same color scheme) in the 102 sq. in. size... also in mint condition.

I'll see if I can find the dark blue Club Pro... it may be a different blue than the one you're referring to.

I believe it came in at least 3 different paint schemes.

Sunset (we'll call it) :)
Powder blue/sparkly blue
Dark blue (the other 2 frames I own)

Bud
02-12-2009, 01:03 AM
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/R8zYXcbqt4I/AAAAAAAAAMw/DQ_ciBTh7SU/s800/P1020220.JPG


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/R8zYRsbqt1I/AAAAAAAAANU/CGpe-uqv3pQ/s800/P1020217.JPG


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/R8zYN8bqtzI/AAAAAAAAAMI/qdwNWijxHKs/s800/P1020214.JPG


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/R8zYEMbqttI/AAAAAAAAALU/ccJuWizerv4/s800/P1020208.JPG

Bud
02-12-2009, 01:05 AM
Head Graphite Pro and Club Master mid+ (102 sq. in.)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SW8PLC6iPFI/AAAAAAAAFlM/E4Ftup2joF8/s800/P1040296.JPG

Bud
02-12-2009, 01:08 AM
Hey Plaz,

Did you check out the weight of this sucker without an overgrip or head tape?

13.5 oz!

I'm thinking this may have been a 4 1/2M racquet. In its bare state with no grip, no grommets and no strings... it weighed very close to 11.0 oz! :shock:

See my original post <---

MichaelChang
02-12-2009, 03:59 AM
Hey Plaz,

Did you check out the weight of this sucker without an overgrip or head tape?

13.5 oz!

I'm thinking this may have been a 4 1/2M racquet. In its bare state with no grip, no grommets and no strings... it weighed very close to 11.0 oz! :shock:

See my original post <---

I have a Club Pro. The paint job is blue/grey, it is not the same to either of your 2 Club Pros (the red one, and the blue one).

Mine is 4 1/4, with original grommets/bumper, with original leather. weighted 12.4 oz strung. The right weight for me. 13.5 would have been way too heavy for me to really use it. I do not understand why yours will get to 13.5, I suppose you can cut the Cap grommets partly to bring the weight to below 13.

matchmaker
02-12-2009, 06:51 AM
Wow, that racquet is in pristine condition.

khw72004
02-12-2009, 08:01 AM
These are mine. I also have a couple more duplicates but heres one of each
http://i39.tinypic.com/i21zl2.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/seadc4.jpg

OnyxZ28
02-12-2009, 08:14 AM
The Club pro lists fiberglass before graphite as its composition -- does that mean it's more fiberglass than graphite? I remember the Graphite pro had graphite listed first.

retrowagen
02-12-2009, 09:00 AM
The Club pro lists fiberglass before graphite as its composition -- does that mean it's more fiberglass than graphite? I remember the Graphite pro had graphite listed first.

Yes, Head was always rather mum on what its composition percentages were, but the Club Pro was more than 50% Fiberglass, hence its unique feel. Play this frame back to back with an identically-strung Graphite Pro and be astonished at how two identical-looking frames can play so differently. The Club, I felt, was really in league with the F200 Rossi and the Max 200g; probably closest to the Max 200g in that a good player could also get nice flat groundies off the stringbed if strung tightly enough (I preferred mine at 65 lbs, but it killed frames within a month of heavy play).

I think I still have a dark blue '87 version around here somewhere that I have had since new. It probably resembles a baseball mitt, though.

FYI, the dark blue version was the first (1987), the burnt orange/red the second (1988), and the metallic lighter blue the final version (1989) of this interesting frame. And they were marketed as a club players (beginner's or recreational player's) frame in the Pro (midplus) line of rackets in those years.

khw72004
02-12-2009, 09:11 AM
Thats great info. thanks alot.

plasma
02-12-2009, 10:21 AM
total opposite from the tx line and the team pro, amazing...cosmetically as well this one is friendlier, matching what we now know is inside its very soul. My team pro feels like a tiny yamaha secret 04, so powerful and stiff that even a small server can dish out big aces. To think that in the same mold they produced a flexible baseline players racquet...I'd love to try groundies with the club pro, my BB winners are mostly fiberglass and dwell feels like twice that of the more graphite layup in the same mold!...point and shoot, effortlessly hitting lines on the fly!!!
personally I wouldn't cap a team pro, but I'd Cap a club pro...

MichaelChang
02-12-2009, 10:42 AM
personally I wouldn't cap a team pro, but I'd Cap a club pro...
I wouldn't cap the club pro, he got his capped and end up 13.5. Unless you really an advanced player, I don't think 13.5 is the best for you. As I said mine with original bumpers and leather, weights at 12.4.

Bud
02-12-2009, 01:12 PM
These are mine. I also have a couple more duplicates but heres one of each
http://i39.tinypic.com/i21zl2.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/seadc4.jpg

Very nice!

There's the robin's egg/sparkly blue frame I referred to in my post above!

:)

Bud
02-12-2009, 01:13 PM
Yes, Head was always rather mum on what its composition percentages were, but the Club Pro was more than 50% Fiberglass, hence its unique feel. Play this frame back to back with an identically-strung Graphite Pro and be astonished at how two identical-looking frames can play so differently. The Club, I felt, was really in league with the F200 Rossi and the Max 200g; probably closest to the Max 200g in that a good player could also get nice flat groundies off the stringbed if strung tightly enough (I preferred mine at 65 lbs, but it killed frames within a month of heavy play).

I think I still have a dark blue '87 version around here somewhere that I have had since new. It probably resembles a baseball mitt, though.

FYI, the dark blue version was the first (1987), the burnt orange/red the second (1988), and the metallic lighter blue the final version (1989) of this interesting frame. And they were marketed as a club players (beginner's or recreational player's) frame in the Pro (midplus) line of rackets in those years.

Thanks for all that awesome info, Retro! It amazes me how you know this much about the classic racquets!

Bud
02-12-2009, 01:14 PM
I wouldn't cap the club pro, he got his capped and end up 13.5. Unless you really an advanced player, I don't think 13.5 is the best for you. As I said mine with original bumpers and leather, weights at 12.4.

My other Club Pro is CAPped and it only weight 12.6 oz. I'm thinking this Club Pro may have been a Medium as opposed to a Light frame.

retrowagen
02-13-2009, 11:09 AM
Thanks for all that awesome info, Retro! It amzes ma how you know this much about the classic racquets!

Thanks. I seem to be blessed/cursed with a near photographic memory for things I care about. Tennis is one of a few things I have been obsessed with as a pursuit, playing competitively in the Juniors in California and internationally, 1983-1988, then college, and Opens through 1993. Having always been rather technically-minded, that I am an enthusiastic "gearhead" was a natural facet of the passion and fascination I have for the game. In '93 I realized that my prospects for success in the pro ranks were slim to nil. Disillusioned, I completely turned my back on tennis and went off to earn a proper living. In 2007, I checked back in, and really enjoy playing tennis again. However, the gear available at present seems to me to be inferior in a few ways to what could be had in the late '80's and early '90's.

plasma
02-13-2009, 10:21 PM
my team pro is stiff but with great dampening, I bet the club pro is forgiving without being a noodle...maybe like the 200g???

Bud
02-13-2009, 10:43 PM
my team pro is stiff but with great dampening, I bet the club pro is forgiving without being a noodle...maybe like the 200g???

I was going to try it out tonight... but it rained here in San Diego :evil:

I'll let you know, tomorrow! :)

BDAZ
02-14-2009, 11:42 AM
my CAPped Club Pro, in all it's robin's egg and sparkly blue goodness.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6942.jpg

I've posted this a few times now, but there always seems to be a reason to.

Bud
02-14-2009, 11:58 AM
my CAPped Club Pro, in all it's robin's egg and sparkly blue goodness.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6942.jpg

I've posted this a few times now, but there always seems to be a reason to.

Yeah, love that thing!

plasma
02-14-2009, 12:43 PM
bdaz...you the man!!!

BDAZ
02-14-2009, 02:16 PM
glad you like. my stringer said it was a beyotch to string because the CAP kind of caved in on itself when he'd tension the strings, making the holes nearly nonexistent. i don't know, the grommet channel must be deeper on this frame than a modern prestige. anyone else have this problem?

Bud
02-14-2009, 11:56 PM
glad you like. my stringer said it was a beyotch to string because the CAP kind of caved in on itself when he'd tension the strings, making the holes nearly nonexistent. i don't know, the grommet channel must be deeper on this frame than a modern prestige. anyone else have this problem?

Lol! What a whiner... hope he didn't charge you extra for the installation :twisted:

I've strung at least 10 of these older Head frames with updated CAP grommets (mid and mid+) and not only do they snap right into place with no fuss/no muss... they are just as easy to string as the racquets with the CAP grommets as stock equipment.

The ONLY frames that were an issue thus far are:

1. LM Radical mid+ (due to the raised frame ridges and thicker bridge beam).

2. Spalding ATP 200 Pro Stock (due to the smaller hole diameter for the stock grommets in the upper hoop - think powerdrill).

If you really want to **** him off... bring him an ATP 200 to CAP with LM Prestige mid CAP grommets... I guarantee his hands AND his face will be BEET RED afterward... IF he's successful :lol:

BDAZ
02-15-2009, 12:45 PM
i don't know. you be the judge. these are lm prestige grommets.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6944.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6945.jpg

plasma
02-15-2009, 12:51 PM
is there a difference between the LM and MG prestige CAP's??? I guess the original brown CAP's are a thing of the past??? the old brown Peebax seem to be higher quality and softer than the new black plastic...

BDAZ
02-15-2009, 12:55 PM
i think Bud says the MG CAPs are softer and a little easier to work with. correct me if i'm wrong.

Bud
02-15-2009, 03:38 PM
i don't know. you be the judge. these are lm prestige grommets.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6944.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6945.jpg

Yeah, I can tell he had some problems in the lower hoop. He is aware, I hope, that grommets should be installed from throat to top.

Also, he should be aware of what's happening under the CAP, too. His strings are twisted and he failed to pull them hard enough to actually go INTO the grommet channel. The string(s) should not show like that when pulled properly.

Sometimes, if you string at low tension... you have to pull at higher tension to get the string to 'snap' into the CAP grommet channel and seat itself properly... at which point it will pretty much disappear.

However, sometimes the camera flash will pick up the string inside the CAP (flash reflection). This, though, is a case of him not pulling tension high enough to hear the little 'snap' that occurs when the string is seated properly. What compounded the problem is the twisted strings... which will make it even more difficult to pull the string into the CAP channel.

BDAZ, you may still be able to push those strings into the CAP channel. Take the back end of the awl (or anything hard and flat) and push on the strings. Many times they will snap into place... even after the job is complete and all knots tied.

If that doesn't work, try prying up the lip on the CAP channel with something dull (so as not to scratch them like your stringer did)... and then use something hard and flat to try and push those strings into the channel (and out of sight) where they belong.

I'll try and post some closeup pics of a similar situation.

Bud
02-15-2009, 03:42 PM
is there a difference between the LM and MG prestige CAP's??? I guess the original brown CAP's are a thing of the past??? the old brown Peebax seem to be higher quality and softer than the new black plastic...

i think Bud says the MG CAPs are softer and a little easier to work with. correct me if i'm wrong.

The MG CAPs are definitely softer/more malleable and easier to work with. They are also comprised of nibs that are slightly smaller in diameter than their predecessors.

khw72004
02-15-2009, 05:50 PM
i don't know. you be the judge. these are lm prestige grommets.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6944.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/bherrick2000/IMG_6945.jpg


Your stringer messed up. If you can shove those in I would just buy new CAP's and redo it. Or buy a stringer and do it yourself.

Bud
02-15-2009, 06:05 PM
Here is a Graphite Pro with LM Prestige mid CAP grommets...

Note how the reflection from the camera's flash makes it appear the string is outside the grommet channel. I know this isn't the case, since I have the racquet here and double checked it when I saw the pics. Because the string overlaps abother string in that location... it pushes the lips of the CAP grommet channel more 'open' and thus the reflection off the strings from the flash. If you were to run your finger over the CAP grommet at this location... you would not feel the string.

In your case however, it's clear that the strings are OUTSIDE the grommet. It will not harm the strings or grommet... but it definitely looks cleaner when they are tucked into the channel.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SGseZs2luLI/AAAAAAAABGk/dR4j6EPKZzY/s800/P1020821.JPG


Here's another angle:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SGseOqyRqAI/AAAAAAAABFo/AgsuLzLEh4s/s800/P1020812.JPG


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SGseYFqf1AI/AAAAAAAABGY/cjH2fJpleWU/s800/P1020819.JPG

plasma
02-15-2009, 11:40 PM
Hi Bud,
what are your thoughts regarding LM vs. MG mid CAPs on older 89.5s?
It would be great if you and/or khw could review/compare all the various models in the pro series in a seperate thread, they seem to go from very stiff: txp, txe, team pro; to very flexible: comp pro, comfort pro etc. A range manufacturers these days completely ignore...I am assuming that the graphite pro is in the middle and is basically the same flex as the edge or director...???? thanks for inspiring me to CAP some of my 89.5's, will post new pics in a few weeks hopefully....

Bud
02-15-2009, 11:41 PM
Hi Bud,
what are your thoughts regarding LM vs. MG mid CAPs on older 89.5s?
It would be great if you and/or khw could review/compare all the various models in the pro series in a seperate thread, they seem to go from very stiff: txp, txe, team pro; to very flexible: comp pro, comfort pro etc. A range manufacturers these days completely ignore...I am assuming that the graphite pro is in the middle and is basically the same flex as the edge or director...???? thanks for inspiring me to CAP some of my 89.5's, will post new pics in a few weeks hopefully....

Definitely MG Prestige mid CAP grommets.

Make sure you carefully remove the old grommets (except the brittle white ones) and save them.

Bud
02-16-2009, 02:13 PM
Got lucky and picked up another beautiful European Graphite Pro like the one below!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/STj0dsb9dUI/AAAAAAAAEGg/SUxIKmIEidA/s800/P1030863.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/STj0flw7xkI/AAAAAAAAEGo/u2cY1Z1TO3s/s800/P1030864.JPG

plasma
02-16-2009, 05:49 PM
that's a slightly wider mold than the graphite pro mold, right? I love how the simple art deco bars mimic the prestige...

Bud
02-16-2009, 08:19 PM
that's a slightly wider mold than the graphite pro mold, right? I love how the simple art deco bars mimic the prestige...

It IS a Graphite Pro... which I believe were all made from the same mold.

Bud
02-16-2009, 08:21 PM
I'm up to 11 Graphite Pro's now! :)

5 European GP's
4 US Black GP's
2 Turquoise GP's

Man, I love these things.

plasma
02-16-2009, 09:19 PM
i beleive the ones marked mid plus may possibly have a slightly shorter hoop and wider head, please check....I like the 81's, 89.5 is too much, my true love is kneissl, or a tightly strung fresh gtx,mmm...I am currently seeking an attractive female who does CAP grommet installs, grip replacements and quick string jobs for a ltr...
is there any way to cap an 81???

Bud
02-16-2009, 10:20 PM
i beleive the ones marked mid plus may possibly have a slightly shorter hoop and wider head, please check....I like the 81's, 89.5 is too much, my true love is kneissl, or a tightly strung fresh gtx,mmm...I am currently seeking an attractive female who does CAP grommet installs, grip replacements and quick string jobs for a ltr...
is there any way to cap an 81???

Nope, exactly the same. 89.5 sq. in. was considered mid+ back in the 80's :p

The CAP grommets pop right into them :)

I hear 95's are the new mid.

plasma
02-16-2009, 11:12 PM
don't believe the hype!

BDAZ
02-17-2009, 05:47 PM
man, a really nice condition head elite pro just went for $114.50 on the bay. my $24 bid was not gonna get the job done. all this in the last 30 seconds.

khw72004
02-17-2009, 05:49 PM
that is crazy

plasma
02-17-2009, 06:28 PM
why is that crazy?, its much better than anything out there at half the price...also a rare collectors item as it is one of the few frames which shares the true prestige mold...that's not crazy that's ....
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dhd6j9.jpg

Bud
02-17-2009, 07:17 PM
why is that crazy?, its much better than anything out there at half the price...also a rare collectors item as it is one of the few frames which shares the true prestige mold...that's not crazy that's ....
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dhd6j9.jpg

Lol! Good one.

khw72004
02-18-2009, 10:11 AM
I mean that they are going up by soo much in the last few months. I would love to travel back in time and buy a bunch of these before they anyone knew that they were any good.

plasma
02-18-2009, 09:09 PM
not just for racquets, in other ways too it was a far more innocent time.
http://i39.tinypic.com/28rl0gi.jpg
yes I'm with you on the time machine idea. Give me a week to vacation in St. Vincent though while you get 89.5 txp's and prestiges over here...

Thepowerofchoice
04-26-2009, 06:27 AM
I also have this same racquet (same color scheme) in the 102 sq. in. size... also in mint condition.

I'll see if I can find the dark blue Club Pro... it may be a different blue than the one you're referring to.

I believe it came in at least 3 different paint schemes.

Sunset (we'll call it) :)
Powder blue/sparkly blue
Dark blue (the other 2 frames I own)

Are these racquets are all the same but just different paint job?

Bloodshed
04-26-2009, 08:39 AM
Hey Bud, did you put the Pretige Mid grommets into a PC600? If so, how different is it with the Prestige Mid grommets? Does it still have that buttery feel?

khw72004
04-27-2009, 10:42 AM
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Are these racquets are all the same but just different paint job?

I believe so but I have two different types of graphite pros but I prefer one over the other.

Some of these frames are made in different places too. as for the club pros I prefer the sunset, light blue then the dark blue. It might be because I like how they look more so I play better with them than anything else.

Thepowerofchoice
05-02-2009, 07:17 PM
[QUOTE=Bud;3123289]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/R8zYXcbqt4I/AAAAAAAAAMw/DQ_ciBTh7SU/s800/P1020220.JPG


Seems like all the Club Pros have all different weights and balances. I just got a pair of these dark blue (similar to the one in the picture above) and here are the specs.

Weight: 12.0 oz (340 grams)
Balance: 6 pt HL
Swingweight:???
Flex: Flexible

My second one is 10 grams lighter with the same balance.

From what I have read on this thread everyone seems to have different numbers (spec.). Not sure is it because of the quaility control or what??? I thought all the Club Pros only have different paint jobs but same mold underneat.

Anyway, I have not had a chance to play with it yet just hit against the wall for a few minutes and I can tell that I'm going to love these racquets already. I believe they have more fiberglass than the graphite. Can't get enough of these older racquets. Any feedback on these racquets would be appreciated.

plasma
05-03-2009, 12:27 AM
schweet, r those i prestige caps????

Thepowerofchoice
05-03-2009, 06:30 AM
schweet, r those i prestige caps????

The racquet in the picture is not mine. I quoted from Bud from the different post. My racquets still have an original grommets (not capped). I'm thinking about capping the lighter one (11.7 oz) with MG prestige mid and I'll post some pictures next time.

plasma
05-03-2009, 09:39 AM
although I'm trading all of mine to a good friend the 89.5's seemed to have no issues with quality control. The very nature of the line is unprecedented. It is so exacting, scientific, complete, and awesome. Performance-wise only top of the line wilson or yonex compares and offers the same exacting precision. I would rate 89.5's as discrete Austrian masterworks of engineering, design and craft, my highest rating for these frames, they are superb in every way.

jimbo333
05-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Well you would say that if you are about to trade them:)

I would agree though:):)

Bud
05-03-2009, 11:43 AM
schweet, r those i prestige caps????

Yes... yes they are :)

plasma
05-03-2009, 02:27 PM
man who can put iprestige cap in 89.5...can do anything!!!
http://i44.tinypic.com/j6pk5v.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1gAHil89Z4

schu47
06-04-2009, 07:51 AM
Hey Bud,

You are the expert, so can you tell me where the Club Master fits in with the Club Pro? I know of a nice red one that looks a lot like your Club Pro, but also looks larger. Is it just a mid-plus version of the Club Pro? Thanks.

retrowagen
06-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Hey Bud,

You are the expert, so can you tell me where the Club Master fits in with the Club Pro? I know of a nice red one that looks a lot like your Club Pro, but also looks larger. Is it just a mid-plus version of the Club Pro? Thanks.

Hey Schu',

Not Bud here, but I can tell you that the Club Master was indeed Head's "oversized" (660 cm2) version of the Club Pro. Technically by today's standards on the larger side of Midplus, and just about as flexy as the Club Pro. Same mold as the Graphite Master and Composite Master (Comp Master). Same mold and layup as the Astral Master (the pink women's version which was about 1/2" shorter in length - "Strong enough for a man, gentle enough for a woman!"

The red graphic would make it a 1988, IIRC.

schu47
06-04-2009, 12:12 PM
Hey Schu',

Not Bud here, but I can tell you that the Club Master was indeed Head's "oversized" (660 cm2) version of the Club Pro. Technically by today's standards on the larger side of Midplus, and just about as flexy as the Club Pro. Same mold as the Graphite Master and Composite Master (Comp Master). Same mold and layup as the Astral Master (the pink women's version which was about 1/2" shorter in length - "Strong enough for a man, gentle enough for a woman!"

The red graphic would make it a 1988, IIRC.

Thanks for the info. Great that you can pinpoint it to that degree. I might take a flyer on getting one.

I'd love to see the pink Astral Master, too. Got one that you can post a picture of, retro? We could all use to get in touch with our "gentle," feminine side. :)

Thepowerofchoice
06-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Hey Schu',

Not Bud here, but I can tell you that the Club Master was indeed Head's "oversized" (660 cm2) version of the Club Pro. Technically by today's standards on the larger side of Midplus, and just about as flexy as the Club Pro. Same mold as the Graphite Master and Composite Master (Comp Master). Same mold and layup as the Astral Master (the pink women's version which was about 1/2" shorter in length - "Strong enough for a man, gentle enough for a woman!"

The red graphic would make it a 1988, IIRC.

Anyone have this "pink" racquet??? I want to get it for my wife ( I'll score the brownie point big time).:)

Bud
06-04-2009, 01:42 PM
Hey Bud,

You are the expert, so can you tell me where the Club Master fits in with the Club Pro? I know of a nice red one that looks a lot like your Club Pro, but also looks larger. Is it just a mid-plus version of the Club Pro? Thanks.

Hey Schu',

Not Bud here, but I can tell you that the Club Master was indeed Head's "oversized" (660 cm2) version of the Club Pro. Technically by today's standards on the larger side of Midplus, and just about as flexy as the Club Pro. Same mold as the Graphite Master and Composite Master (Comp Master). Same mold and layup as the Astral Master (the pink women's version which was about 1/2" shorter in length - "Strong enough for a man, gentle enough for a woman!"

The red graphic would make it a 1988, IIRC.

Yeah... what he said :)

Retro and VSBabolat are the Head experts on the forum... how they know all they do is a mystery to me :wink:

Bud
06-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the info. Great that you can pinpoint it to that degree. I might take a flyer on getting one.

I'd love to see the pink Astral Master, too. Got one that you can post a picture of, retro? We could all use to get in touch with our "gentle," feminine side. :)

The Astral Master is HOT PINK, too. No question it's a chic stick :)

Bud
06-04-2009, 01:45 PM
Anyone have this "pink" racquet??? I want to get it for my wife ( I'll score the brownie point big time).:)

They don't come up too often on fleabay.

tball
06-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Here are some specs. They are taken from my racquet. They are not the official ones:

Head Size: 102" / 660 cm2
Balance: 5 pt HL
Weight (strung): 11.6 oz / 330 g
Flex: very flexible

This is the most flexible racquet of all that I have:
Club Master < Club Pro < Prestige Tour 660 < Prestige Classic 600 Pro Tour 630 < Pro Tour 280 < Comp Master

schu47
06-08-2009, 04:26 AM
Here are some specs. They are taken from my racquet. They are not the official ones:

Head Size: 102" / 660 cm2
Balance: 5 pt HL
Weight (strung): 11.6 oz / 330 g
Flex: very flexible

This is the most flexible racquet of all that I have:
Club Master < Club Pro < Prestige Tour 660 < Prestige Classic 600 Pro Tour 630 < Pro Tour 280 < Comp Master

Sounds like a nice racquet. Amazing that Head had so many great ones back in the day. I got the impression the "Club" series was aimed more at the mid-level than the high-level player, but still high quality, from what people on the forum are saying.

Bud
06-08-2009, 01:28 PM
Hey Bud,

You are the expert, so can you tell me where the Club Master fits in with the Club Pro? I know of a nice red one that looks a lot like your Club Pro, but also looks larger. Is it just a mid-plus version of the Club Pro? Thanks.

I have a Club Master just like this in pristine condition that I'll be listing soon :)

jimbo333
06-08-2009, 05:40 PM
Retro and VSBabolat are the Head experts on the forum... how they know all they do is a mystery to me :wink:

Not just Head, they are experts in Dunlop, Kneissl, Fischer and no doubt more, info they and others come out with is amazing, it's as if they worked for these companies at some point:)

Thepowerofchoice
06-28-2009, 08:23 PM
Has anyone here sucessfully capped the Club Master with Flexpoint Prestige Team grommets?

khw72004
06-28-2009, 09:05 PM
I haven't but they work with MP CAPs

plasma
06-28-2009, 10:37 PM
was that the green thrift store master I got that u capped? can't remember if I donated that one to some vatos or traded it to you??? (esse)

Bud
06-29-2009, 12:42 AM
Has anyone here sucessfully capped the Club Master with Flexpoint Prestige Team grommets?

Yep, capped a Trisys 270 Mid+ with those. They fit perfectly... although a bit strange where the flexpoint cutouts are located. I ended up coloring the area black with a Sharpie, since there was a design on the outside of the frame (similar to the inside of the frame). The ink can be easily removed with acetone in the future if someone wants to restore the racquet to stock condition.

TW Europe sells a Prestige MG Prestige Team that has normal CAP grommets (no flexpoint cutout) which should fit... only drawback is you have to order them from Europe :|

If you order some from TW Europe, let me know as I'm interested in acquiring 5 sets or so... it would make the shipping more reasonable if split, too.


Head Trisys 270 with Prestige FXP Team CAP grommets:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SSXdUxiQi8I/AAAAAAAADxE/QZgXPsSeWHY/s800/P1030755.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SSXdbj0V6zI/AAAAAAAADxs/_1W-wpael5g/s800/P1030760.JPG


For Plasma:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SSXdNuQIPWI/AAAAAAAADwY/GM5Osl0lBsM/s800/P1030750.JPG

Additional Pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/sbinsdca/HeadTrisys270GripNo2ForSale#

khw72004
06-29-2009, 05:53 AM
Great job Bud

Thepowerofchoice
06-29-2009, 11:39 AM
Yep, capped a Trisys 270 Mid+ with those. They fit perfectly... although a bit strange where the flexpoint cutouts are located. I ended up coloring the area black with a Sharpie, since there was a design on the outside of the frame (similar to the inside of the frame). The ink can be easily removed with acetone in the future if someone wants to restore the racquet to stock condition.

TW Europe sells a Prestige MG Prestige Team that has normal CAP grommets (no flexpoint cutout) which should fit... only drawback is you have to order them from Europe :|

If you order some from TW Europe, let me know as I'm interested in acquiring 5 sets or so... it would make the shipping more reasonable if split, too.


Head Trisys 270 with Prestige FXP Team CAP grommets:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SSXdUxiQi8I/AAAAAAAADxE/QZgXPsSeWHY/s800/P1030755.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SSXdbj0V6zI/AAAAAAAADxs/_1W-wpael5g/s800/P1030760.JPG


For Plasma:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RLIYzXhfZQ0/SSXdNuQIPWI/AAAAAAAADwY/GM5Osl0lBsM/s800/P1030750.JPG

Additional Pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/sbinsdca/HeadTrisys270GripNo2ForSale#

I tried this with my Club Master (white frame w red stripes) and it didn't workout. The spacing are different and the grommets are too short especilly between 4-8 o'clock.

Thepowerofchoice
06-29-2009, 11:41 AM
TW Europe sells a Prestige MG Prestige Team that has normal CAP grommets (no flexpoint cutout) which should fit... only drawback is you have to order them from Europe :|

If you order some from TW Europe, let me know as I'm interested in acquiring 5 sets or so... it would make the shipping more reasonable if split, too.

Bud, I'll be sure to let you know about that.
Thanks

Bud
06-29-2009, 12:37 PM
I tried this with my Club Master (white frame w red stripes) and it didn't workout. The spacing are different and the grommets are too short especially between 4-8 o'clock.

Are you referring to the bridge grommets?

Thepowerofchoice
06-30-2009, 04:38 AM
Are you referring to the bridge grommets?

No, it was everything else (spacing, too short...). It just was not the right fit. Can't recall for sure but I believe I even had to cut the bridge grommets into couple pieces, I even tried the grommets for Head Prestige classic tour 660 and no luck.

Bud
06-30-2009, 05:16 AM
No, it was everything else (spacing, too short...). It just was not the right fit. Can't recall for sure but I believe I even had to cut the bridge grommets into couple pieces, I even tried the grommets for Head Prestige classic tour 660 and no luck.

Wowee... that's the first I've heard of this! :shock:

I'm a bit tentative to pull the brittle white grommets out of my Club Master now. I have the orange/reddish one (I like to call it sunset)... like my sunset Club Pro.

In my experience... the 18x19, Head 102 sq. in. racquets accept Prestige Team grommets with no issues.

So, you tried to CAP a Head Club Master 102 with an 18x19 string pattern with the FXP Prestige Team CAP grommets and they didn't come close to fitting?

Gosh, I swear the Club Master is pretty much identical to the Trisys 270 shown above. I recall overlaying my TS270 on my Club Master and they looked the same... head size, string pattern, etc.

Thepowerofchoice
06-30-2009, 08:14 AM
Wowee... that's the first I've heard of this! :shock:

I'm a bit tentative to pull the brittle white grommets out of my Club Master now. I have the orange/reddish one (I like to call it sunset)... like my sunset Club Pro.

In my experience... the 18x19, Head 102 sq. in. racquets accept Prestige Team grommets with no issues.

So, you tried to CAP a Head Club Master 102 with an 18x19 string pattern with the FXP Prestige Team CAP grommets and they didn't come close to fitting?

Gosh, I swear the Club Master is pretty much identical to the Trisys 270 shown above. I recall overlaying my TS270 on my Club Master and they looked the same... head size, string pattern, etc.

Yes, I even cut the FXP Prestige Team CAP grommets into a few pieces but it didn't work for me. I hope I'm wrong on this because I love the Masters but the white grommets are terrible. If you decide to try it please let me know the out come.

Bud
06-30-2009, 08:50 AM
Yes, I even cut the FXP Prestige Team CAP grommets into a few pieces but it didn't work for me. I hope I'm wrong on this because I love the Masters but the white grommets are terrible. If you decide to try it please let me know the out come.

Are you absolutely certain the grommets weren't mislabeled? Could they have been for the FXP Prestige Mid+? If so, that would explain the fact they aren't even close.

Something seems amiss, here... your Club Master should be the same mold as the TS270 shown above. Those CAP grommets snapped in without a hitch.

Can you post a pic of the Club Master?

Thepowerofchoice
06-30-2009, 09:54 AM
Are you absolutely certain the grommets weren't mislabeled? Could they have been for the FXP Prestige Mid+? If so, that would explain the fact they aren't even close.

Something seems amiss, here... your Club Master should be the same mold as the TS270 shown above. Those CAP grommets snapped in without a hitch.

Can you post a pic of the Club Master?

Never thought about the grommets being mislabeled and now I'm not sure. The grommets was not that far off but just do not fit. I've capped several racquets before (1995 Zebra, 1998, Club Pro) and no issues. I don't have that Club Master anymore. It was white with little bit of red, made in USA. I hope that you are right and it is my mistake because I really like the Club Masters.

80sPOG4me
06-30-2009, 12:48 PM
I'm dying to know whether or not the team grommets will work. I have a couple aqua graphite masters, and a red club master that I'd love to CAP. I'm afraid to cut out the strings on the graphites due to the white grommets. One set are slightly cracked in places, and the other is supposedly new, but I don't trust 'em. ;)

Power, was your master perhaps the white comp master? The graphite and club masters I have are all identical drill patterns. I would assume the comp master would be the same too.

I'm surprised no one has posted pics of a CAP'd graphite, club or comp master yet. If they have, they must have exceeded my 25 page search results.

I do agree with you Bud in regards to the flexpoint CAPs not being ideal. If we knew these frames could be CAP'd, I'd definitely chip in on that order to reduce shipping costs.

Bud
06-30-2009, 12:54 PM
http://img.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/big/HMGPT-1.JPG

http://img.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/big/HMGPT-6.JPG

80sPOG4me
06-30-2009, 02:49 PM
Oooh, that's really nice Bud! Would look great on the 'ole master series. :)

Bud
06-30-2009, 03:33 PM
Oooh, that's really nice Bud! Would look great on the 'ole master series. :)

I know... I'm wanting to order some (grommets) but they come from Europe.

Thepowerofchoice
06-30-2009, 09:04 PM
Can you post a pic of the Club Master?

I'm dying to know whether or not the team grommets will work. I have a couple aqua graphite masters, and a red club master that I'd love to CAP. I'm afraid to cut out the strings on the graphites due to the white grommets. One set are slightly cracked in places, and the other is supposedly new, but I don't trust 'em. ;)

Power, was your master perhaps the white comp master? The graphite and club masters I have are all identical drill patterns. I would assume the comp master would be the same too.

I'm surprised no one has posted pics of a CAP'd graphite, club or comp master yet. If they have, they must have exceeded my 25 page search results.

I do agree with you Bud in regards to the flexpoint CAPs not being ideal. If we knew these frames could be CAP'd, I'd definitely chip in on that order to reduce shipping costs.

Yes...It was the Comp Master that I had. I thought I had a Club Master until I found these pictures. Great racquet with nice flex and a large sweetspot.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/thepowerofchoice/IMG_9057.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/thepowerofchoice/IMG_9056.jpg

sargeinaz
07-27-2009, 05:19 PM
Hey everyone I just bought a red/orange club pro from a local store and the condition is not too bad. Still has the original white grommets. My question is that when I swing or shake the racket I notice something rattle on the inside. Almost like there are a few small pebbles that move around inside. Does anyone know what this may be? Thanks.

BDAZ
07-27-2009, 06:27 PM
are the grommets in good shape? as i'm sure it's stated somewhere in this thread, these grommets are notorious for turning to dust, which is why all the mids with them get CAPped. you could be hearing pieces of grommets inside the frame.

Bud
07-27-2009, 08:35 PM
Hey everyone I just bought a red/orange club pro from a local store and the condition is not too bad. Still has the original white grommets. My question is that when I swing or shake the racket I notice something rattle on the inside. Almost like there are a few small pebbles that move around inside. Does anyone know what this may be? Thanks.

Yes, it's pieces of those crappy brittle white grommets that came stock in the racquet. You'll need to replace them with a set of current MG Prestige Mid CAP grommets.

When you've pulled the old white grommets from the frame, shake all those little pieces out via the grommet holes then clean up the frame really well prior to replacing the grommets.

Sometimes, you have to be REALLY persistent to get all the little pieces removed.

sargeinaz
07-28-2009, 12:02 AM
Thank you to you both. I really appreciate it and I'll do that when I get a chance.

gsntech1
11-27-2013, 07:02 AM
Hey man. I have one of these frames. Head club pro. Just dug it out from my garage. Near new flawless condition too. Not a scratch on the thing. But it's missing grommets. Which grommets do i get that will fit this thing? You would know. Can u give me a link here to it on TW so i can just buy it? Much appreciated.

Paul

vsbabolat
11-27-2013, 09:33 AM
Hey man. I have one of these frames. Head club pro. Just dug it out from my garage. Near new flawless condition too. Not a scratch on the thing. But it's missing grommets. Which grommets do i get that will fit this thing? You would know. Can u give me a link here to it on TW so i can just buy it? Much appreciated.

Paul

The HEAD Microgel/YouTek Prestige Mid grommets:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_YOUTEK_MIcroGel_Prestige_Mid_Grommet/descpageHEAD-HMGPMG.html

gsntech1
11-27-2013, 09:53 AM
Thank u Sir!

Triskadekaphilia
11-29-2013, 10:18 AM
I have an orange club master mid in great condition, except for the brittle grommets. I decided to restring it since the 20 year old syn gut was not so hot. It took a lot of silicone tubing and I basically sheared off all the old white white grommet tubes. It's playable but has an annoying rattle from grommet fragment inside the hoop.

I had wondered about the prestige models caps fitting... The head sizes are different as listed (89.5 vs 93) but they look the same size.

Thanks much for this suggestion...now I can restring this beauty.

Triskadekaphilia
11-29-2013, 10:21 AM
Anybody know if there is a replacement for the grommets of the club pro midplus?? It seems larger than the prestige midplus head.

retrowagen
11-29-2013, 11:52 AM
See post #106 above. The newer Prestige Mid grommet kits will fit the old Club Pro just fine - don't worry about the 89.5 versus 93 gobbledygook - they're the same headsize.

Triskadekaphilia
11-29-2013, 02:50 PM
^^^^^

Yep, got it.

What about club pro midplus??? It is listed 102.5 head size and is bigger side-by-side than prestige midplus (which is listed 98 but really 95)

vsbabolat
11-29-2013, 05:40 PM
^^^^^

Yep, got it.

What about club pro midplus??? It is listed 102.5 head size and is bigger side-by-side than prestige midplus (which is listed 98 but really 95)

That is the Club Master that is listed at 102.5. Pro series=89.5, Master Series=102.4, and the Director Series of 1989 to 1991=112.

There was also a Prestige Master that is 102.5.

Triskadekaphilia
11-30-2013, 04:29 AM
^^^^^^^^

Yes you are correct... My bad!

Its an orange club master midplus

In any case, I can not find any grommets to fit it:(

Bud
12-05-2013, 06:15 PM
Does anyone recall if FXP Prestige Team CAP grommets fit the 102.5 sq in Head frames?

I think I placed these on an old Head Master and they fit. However, the grommets are thinner at 3/9 to accommodate the flexpoints of that model.

Bud
12-05-2013, 06:22 PM
I looked through my racquet pics and found a 102 sq. in Trisys 270 I fitted with FXP Prestige Team CAP grommets... so I believe it works :)

Bud
12-05-2013, 06:28 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e5-7UmR8kwg/So4du7i3TNI/AAAAAAAALxI/w14CEikFRuw/s800/P1030752.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ucw63ziqPow/So4dvXFETRI/AAAAAAAALxQ/bxp1XdzfCJw/s800/P1030754.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sAOWLZalhic/So4dvlMKIEI/AAAAAAAALxU/_CTS6lcguHs/s800/P1030755.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jU-6euMWwMY/So4dwVBQPmI/AAAAAAAALxY/kbmKg_QCECY/s800/P1030756.JPG

gh65721
12-10-2013, 11:50 AM
Hey Bud!! Do u still have the orange Club Pro I sold u 4 yrs ago that started this thread? Cant believe 4 yrs has gone by that fast! I was actually playing pain free back then!

Bud
12-10-2013, 10:46 PM
Hey Bud!! Do u still have the orange Club Pro I sold u 4 yrs ago that started this thread? Cant believe 4 yrs has gone by that fast! I was actually playing pain free back then!

Nope. Sold it when I liquidated the collection :)

gsntech1
12-16-2013, 10:30 AM
Yes, it's pieces of those crappy brittle white grommets that came stock in the racquet. You'll need to replace them with a set of current MG Prestige Mid CAP grommets.

When you've pulled the old white grommets from the frame, shake all those little pieces out via the grommet holes then clean up the frame really well prior to replacing the grommets.

Sometimes, you have to be REALLY persistent to get all the little pieces removed.
as per your suggestion i bought the microgel prestige mid cap grommets.
they fit, just barely ( i think). But issue is not fit but the length of each piece that goes in the hole. They are way too short and each piece tops out somewhere while midway thru the hole. meaning, unlike conventional grommets, these wont extend and when you have crosses on holes or string will rub on frame - it will break.

Pls tel me if i am missing something? How did you make it work for your frame? again, mine is a orange club pro 89.5 inches.

tnx!

gsntech1
12-16-2013, 10:31 AM
The HEAD Microgel/YouTek Prestige Mid grommets:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_YOUTEK_MIcroGel_Prestige_Mid_Grommet/descpageHEAD-HMGPMG.html
as per your suggestion i bought the microgel prestige mid cap grommets.
they fit, just barely ( i think). But issue is not fit but the length of each piece that goes in the hole. They are way too short and each piece tops out somewhere while midway thru the hole. meaning, unlike conventional grommets, these wont extend and when you have crosses on holes or string will rub on frame - it will break.

Pls tel me if i am missing something? How did you make it work for your frame? again, mine is a orange club pro 89.5 inches.

tnx!

Bud
12-20-2013, 06:02 PM
as per your suggestion i bought the microgel prestige mid cap grommets.
they fit, just barely ( i think). But issue is not fit but the length of each piece that goes in the hole. They are way too short and each piece tops out somewhere while midway thru the hole. meaning, unlike conventional grommets, these wont extend and when you have crosses on holes or string will rub on frame - it will break.

Pls tel me if i am missing something? How did you make it work for your frame? again, mine is a orange club pro 89.5 inches.

tnx!

Don't know what to tell ya but it works :)

How many sets of CAP grommets have you installed? How many on older 89.5 Head frames?

gsntech1
12-20-2013, 07:23 PM
Don't know what to tell ya but it works :)

How many sets of CAP grommets have you installed? How many on older 89.5 Head frames?

I have an orange club pro as well. also 89.5. maybe i am using the wrong grommet set? I got - "Head YOUTEK/MIcroGel Prestige Mid Grommet"
It came in 2 pieces and one for the throat. Both pieces fit, one after the other, but the length of the actual grommets is not long enough to extend over the hole no matter what i do. cant post pics here unfortunately. or can i? I have to hold it in place with hands as I am am installing it, otherwise it pops out. odd.

Bud
12-25-2013, 02:25 PM
I have an orange club pro as well. also 89.5. maybe i am using the wrong grommet set? I got - "Head YOUTEK/MIcroGel Prestige Mid Grommet"
It came in 2 pieces and one for the throat. Both pieces fit, one after the other, but the length of the actual grommets is not long enough to extend over the hole no matter what i do. cant post pics here unfortunately. or can i? I have to hold it in place with hands as I am am installing it, otherwise it pops out. odd.

It seems they are too short (near 12 o'clock) but they do fit :)

Yes, you have to hold them in somehow when installing... otherwise they pop out. CAP grommets are not esy to install especially on older Head mid frames.

Zip ties or extra awls help

I've installed 8-10 sets of the prestige mid CAP grommets on old Head mid frames. When finished, my hands were red, raw and sore. They are also fairly tough to install on the LM Radical (Prestige MP CAP grommets) because of the ridges.

Perhaps, someone from TT lives near you and has the experience of installing these.