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v205
02-15-2009, 06:24 AM
Anyone using X1 biphase here? Do you use it as a hybrid (what combination main/cross) or do you use it as a full bed and on what racket? I'm especially interested if you are using it as a full bed.

I got myself a few sets but unsure of whether I should try it first as a full bed or as part of a hybrid first? I'm using Dunlop Max 200g 18/20 pattern.

amx13
02-15-2009, 07:08 AM
I've used the biphase on a hybrid, the best multi out there IMO. I use it in the crosses, with luxilon alu rough on the mains. I've found just the perfect amount of power, feel and comfort with that combo. Right now I have the same set up on a head pro tour 280 and a Dunlop ag 200 and it works wonders on both of them.
The only negative is that the bi-phase won't last nearly as long as the rough ( even with the 18x20 pattern) so I always end up cutting the luxilons with plenty life on them, but with the comfort you get from the x1 I think it's worth it

DizBoiDanny
02-15-2009, 07:12 AM
I tried the X-1 full bed set up. IMO it was so much power for me to handle. Everything was great, beside the power.

davidahenry
02-15-2009, 07:35 AM
I tried the X-1 full bed set up. IMO it was so much power for me to handle. Everything was great, beside the power.

I agree. I used X-One this past Summer as a full job. I thought it was a very good multi - just a little too powerful for my liking - even at 65 lbs. I just kept sailing too many balls long. It had very good spin, and great pop/crispness though.

I tried four of the higher-end multi's last Summer and X-One was my second favorite - behind Babolat Xcel Power.

Take care.

DH

hoodjem
02-15-2009, 07:57 AM
I've got some X-1 in my tennis bag right now. I am planning to put it in a hybrid with Weisscannon Silverstring 1.20.

I am just wondering about the tensions? Because of the power of X-1, should I string things a little higher?

davidahenry
02-15-2009, 08:01 AM
Because of the power of X-1, should I string things a little higher?

I think so. Like I said above, I strung it as a full job in a POG MP at 65 lbs (the max tension for that racquet), and I still felt it was too powerful. Please keep in mind that I like to take big cuts at the ball, and doing so with X-One, sent too many balls sailing long. That is why I settled in on a full bed of Alu Power Rough. :-)

Take care.

David

hoodjem
02-15-2009, 08:29 AM
I strung the Big Ace Micro at 51 crossed with Gosen OG Micro 18g at 54, and this felt just about perfect in terms of spin, control, and feel. (Though some extra pop from the X-1 might be appreciated.)

How many pounds should I go up on the X-1?

ryushen21
02-15-2009, 09:59 AM
I have X1 in a hybrid right now with Pro Red Code. Like It a lot. Unfortunately that hybrid is more expensive that my current gut setup so I'm probably just gonna stick with that.

davidahenry
02-15-2009, 10:12 AM
I strung the Big Ace Micro at 51, with Gosen OG Micro 18g at 54, and this felt just about perfect in terms of spin, control, and feel. (Though some extra pop from the X-1 might be appreciated.)

How many pounds should I go up on the X-1?

Wow - hard to say. Since the general rule of thumb for stringing poly is to go 10% lower than other string, I would assume you could go 10% higher than BA Micro. But... Since X-One is very powerful IMO, I might even take it a little higher than a 10% increase.

I am just kind of guessing here though. Sorry - I wish I had more definitive advice for you.

Take care.

DH

saram
02-15-2009, 10:49 AM
I used to hit with PSSS and X-1 in my O3 Tour mids and have not gone to a full set of X-1 and absolutely love it. One of the best strings out there.

NickC
02-15-2009, 01:16 PM
I've used X-1 hybrided with both VS Team and also with Alu Power Rough. Superb string. Tons of feel, and good power.

quest01
02-15-2009, 01:29 PM
I use Tecnifibre X1 Biphase 16 gauge on the crosses. I previously used the 17 gauge on the crosses but the lack of durability made it where I was breaking strings frequently so I switched to a slightly thicker gauge. I find it to be a good string even though its always the first to pop, however that's no surprise when you use a poly on the mains.

Luminous
02-15-2009, 02:29 PM
I used X1 Biphase Big Banger Alu Power and loved them, Great Feel and Power!

aimr75
02-15-2009, 03:03 PM
i have used a full bed of X1 with a b11 mid and a k90, and its fairly powerful, but also doesnt last very long, the strings tend to shred fairly easily and break

ci2ca
02-15-2009, 03:30 PM
Hmm, k-blade tour with timo 18g in the mains at 62 and the x-one in my crosses at 64.

Jdavid
02-15-2009, 04:11 PM
I use TF X1 16 full bed on my Pro Staff 6.0 95s, strung at 60lbs. Nice pop off the strings, but with good feel and comfort as well. Like others have said it doesn't last very long, I'm lucky to get 5-6 sets tops before it breaks. I'm an all court player with somewhat flat strokes, eastern forehand and 1hbh.

vndesu
02-15-2009, 05:12 PM
x1/ alu power the best.

v205
02-15-2009, 08:27 PM
Sounds like full X1 doesn't suit an already powerful modern day racket although it still has it's place as a hybrid option.

I'll try it strung as a full bed on a Dunlop Max 200g at 56/54 and report back. It'll be the closest thing to a full NG that I've ever tried.

jamauss
02-15-2009, 08:31 PM
X1 is a great string. If you're used to gut, it's a good substitute.

I happen to prefer NRG2 just a little more, though.

C-XIII
02-15-2009, 08:34 PM
Im using it in 16g full on a tfight 320 XL at 57lbs. Id say it last about half a month for me but it wont break for a month. I like it alot over pro hurricane tour, wilson sensation and other random things ive tried.i have not tried to hybrid it though. great control and spin and for me it was less power then other strings.

ChuDat
02-15-2009, 08:58 PM
I had it in a hybrid on my 320, Redcodes/X1 @ 61 I think. It was a nice combo but I didn't want to waste $35 again so I went to full poly.

FloridaAG
02-16-2009, 04:01 AM
I use X1 16 guage full bed

Navy Gator
02-16-2009, 05:42 AM
I use XR3 now but just switched from X1 (17G) full bed on 03 speedport black at 57. Very powerful but I hit with a lot of top so I was getting nice, deep balls. Strings lasted 5-10 hours but I needed a soft string for arm problems.
Even though I went through them fast, I loved this string. That is the good thing about stringing my own, not as big a deal when I break them.

hoodjem
02-16-2009, 06:11 AM
Wow - hard to say. Since the general rule of thumb for stringing poly is to go 10% lower than other string, I would assume you could go 10% higher than BA Micro. But... Since X-One is very powerful IMO, I might even take it a little higher than a 10% increase.

I am just kind of guessing here though. Sorry - I wish I had more definitive advice for you.
I think I should go up at least a little bit: maybe to 55 or 56 on the X-1. That would put the Weisscannon SS at 52-53.

JSE
02-16-2009, 07:52 AM
X1 at 60lbs on my Pure Control Team racquets is about as good as it gets for me. Great comfort, great power (but not too much), great spin and great control. I tried a ton of different strings in full beds and hybrids and settled on the X1.

Nellie
02-16-2009, 08:46 AM
I like a softer feel and use the x-one in a full bed in a 18*20 string bed, but I found that it would stretch and lose tension in the summer. So I hybrid in the summer with code red or use a natural gut hybrid.

Djokovicfan4life
02-16-2009, 08:56 PM
I have my back up strung with full Biphase 18g. I don't use it enough for durability to be a real issue. Just for some rainy day insurance and when my main stick is being restrung.

Matt

takano_tezuka
02-17-2009, 02:08 AM
Just a curious question. How high can i string x-1 without encountering durability issues... especially 18g. Coz my shoulder pains are killing me...:(

v205
02-19-2009, 02:26 AM
Wow, full X1 (16) in my dunlop max 200g is very nice! Great enjoying and comfort using it. Hopefully it'd last long enough from the 18x20 pattern.

v205
02-19-2009, 02:32 AM
Was X1 main or cross against the VS and Alu Power Rough? What did you think of the comparison and on the same racket?

I've used X-1 hybrided with both VS Team and also with Alu Power Rough. Superb string. Tons of feel, and good power.

Navy Gator
02-19-2009, 06:07 AM
Just a curious question. How high can i string x-1 without encountering durability issues... especially 18g. Coz my shoulder pains are killing me...:(

Wouldn't use 18.

The 17 or even 16 G X1 isn't that much stiffer. You could also try the Tecnifibre XR3 at 17G, it is still less stiff than X1 18G. The XR3 at 16G is about the same stiffness as X1 at 18G.

I am a big XR3 fan and just switched to it from X1. Powerful but soft on the elbow.

Alafter
02-23-2009, 12:57 AM
testing to see if i am banned. I wrote a bad story that led to ambiguous understanding.

Steve F.
02-23-2009, 01:33 AM
X1 is a great string. If you're used to gut, it's a good substitute.

I happen to prefer NRG2 just a little more, though.

Hiya jamauss -
Would you mind contrasting NRG2 with X1? I'm familiar with NRG2 17 in full set ups and like its explosive quality, stiffness for imparting feel - dislike its lack of cupping. I've been wondering about X1 -
Thanks!

Steve F.
02-23-2009, 01:35 AM
I've used the biphase on a hybrid, the best multi out there IMO. I use it in the crosses, with luxilon alu rough on the mains. I've found just the perfect amount of power, feel and comfort with that combo. Right now I have the same set up on a head pro tour 280 and a Dunlop ag 200 and it works wonders on both of them.

amx13 -
What gauge and tension are you using in the ag200? Thanks!

hoodjem
03-21-2009, 08:06 AM
Anyone ever tried X-1 hybrided with Blue Gear?

takano_tezuka
03-24-2009, 12:18 AM
Anyone ever tried X-1 hybrided with Blue Gear?
yeah... not bad.. best of both worlds..:twisted:

Navy Gator
03-24-2009, 04:33 AM
I was thinking about trying X1 or XR3 with Topspin cyber blue (17g) but TW doesn't have the topspin in stock. I have had elbow problems in the past but the Topspin seems to be a softer poly.