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plasma
02-18-2009, 12:59 AM
here's my new racquet, it is covered with words on the side and is metallic green on one side and sparkle black on the other. It looks more like an underwater disco harpoon than anything else! Isn't she pretty?
http://i42.tinypic.com/r1k506.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/10ns0nl.jpg
The writings on the cover of this odd thing only make sense after the Second Glass....
http://i40.tinypic.com/w844cl.jpg
there's basically a book about physics written on the racquet, and some phony science diagrams followed by more and more space age jargon and the fatuous claim that John McEnroe had something to do with its design. His autograph appears on the frame but I will bet my new st. Vincents that Mac would never touch a collapsible 3 prong, although he was breifly said to be a snauwaert player, even if it was just a pj'ed 200g...

there is an "S" on the buttcap and apparently there was once a key to collapse this thing....many people have said to just stick something in there but she seems sensetive and I dont wan't to break her.
Here is a picture of her buttcap so you can see her"S"
http://i42.tinypic.com/105eb10.jpg

what should I stick in her "S"?. I tried to stick a bunch of stuff in there and am very eager about it but she does NOT seem happy about the idea, as much as it interests me greatly. Those with more experience are welcome to comment.

Bud
02-18-2009, 01:02 AM
here's my new racquet, it is covered with words on the side and is metallic green on one side and sparkle black on the other. It looks more like an underwater disco harpoon than anything else! Isn't she pretty?
http://i42.tinypic.com/r1k506.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/10ns0nl.jpg
The writings on the cover of this odd thing only make sense after the Second Glass....
http://i40.tinypic.com/w844cl.jpg
there's basically a book about physics written on the racquet, and some phony science diagrams followed by more and more space age jargon and the fatuous claim that John McEnroe had something to do with its design. His autograph appears on the frame but I will bet my new st. Vincents that Mac would never touch a collapsible 3 prong, although he was breifly said to be a snauwaert player, even if it was just a pj'ed 200g...

there is an "S" on the buttcap and apparently there was once a key to collapse this thing....many people have said to just stick something in there but she seems sensetive and I dont wan't to break her.
Here is a picture of her buttcap so you can see her"S"
http://i42.tinypic.com/105eb10.jpg

what should I stick in her "S"?. I tried to stick a bunch of stuff in there and am very eager about it but she does NOT seem happy about the idea, as much as it interests me greatly. Those with more experience are welcome to comment.

I believe it's a Snauwaert Ellipse Touch H. I think Mcenroe was involded in the design. If you look on the Woodtennis site... I believe there's a section concerning this racquet.

You can tighten/loosen the stringbed tension with the key that fits the butt cap.

Bud
02-18-2009, 01:03 AM
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=180929

Bud
02-18-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.woodtennis.com/snauwaert/

plasma
02-18-2009, 01:22 AM
Wow, didn't know that McEnroe designed racquets. hmmmm... what can I use besides the original key? This thing feels like an aeropro, lots of mass in the middle. I've only seen one headsize...a shame they didn't make it with a slightly smaller head as it could have had some unique attributes.

Bud
02-18-2009, 01:36 AM
Wow, didn't know that McEnroe designed racquets. hmmmm... what can I use besides the original key? This thing feels like an aeropro, lots of mass in the middle. I've only seen one headsize...a shame they didn't make it with a slightly smaller head as it could have had some unique attributes.

Is it a 95 head size? I'd see if Joe at Woodtennis has any extra 'S' keys he might want to sell.

Virginia
02-18-2009, 01:56 AM
You must have missed my post, plasma, I have the exact same racquet. According to my Japanese friend who has ALL the Ellipses, more or less anything can be used to turn that screw. I'll see if I can fiddle with mine with a small alum key and I'll let you know how I get on.

plasma
02-18-2009, 01:59 AM
that's a great idea. This is not meant to be cranked like a PCS. Yes, looks to be 95, matches my ps midplus perfectly. Wish photos could capture the deep sea green sparkle..if only they made an elipse touch in 85, i'd even settle for an aeropro in 85, that would be awesome!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34exrhg.jpg

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 02:02 AM
Thatīs not a Ellipse touch-H, itīs an Elipse Touch-F. The H is matte black. Both are 93 SqI.

These racquets donīt collapse, but iīve just taken the buttplug (;)) out of mine and iīve taken a pic. I just used a large screwdriver.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7167/18022009345tm0.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18022009345tm0.jpg)

Thereīs a bit of lead around that long screw, but iīve got no idea what that screw is for.

Virginia
02-18-2009, 02:07 AM
Yes, they DO collapse - into two pieces. And yes, you're right, it is a Touch-F.

I haven't quite had the courage to try mine yet, but now I'm thinking I have to put my money where my mouth is. Plus post photos.

Virginia
02-18-2009, 02:10 AM
Actually, my understanding is that with that screw removed, the two pieces should come apart. Try pulling gently...

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 02:10 AM
Hey, youīre right. It took some effort though, gently didnīt work so i wedged the stick between my shoes and pulled hard.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2074/18022009346dx6.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18022009346dx6.jpg)

Virginia
02-18-2009, 02:13 AM
In the language of my Japanese friend:

For the decomposition of Ellipse, it is very simple. You see a hole at the grip end in form
of S of Snauwaert. There should be a wrench in form of S, but, if not, a relatively large normal driver is enough. If you turn it as you turn the screw, the racquet will be decomped in two parts.
And you can carry them in a small bag. In this way you can go to play tennis, while no one notice that you are going to do so. Ha ha .....!!!

Virginia
02-18-2009, 02:14 AM
Rorsach, you're a brave man indeed - well done!

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 02:32 AM
The one iīve got plays like a dream to be honest. Very soft.

Virginia
02-18-2009, 02:46 AM
I haven't tried mine yet. And I've been off tennis with an injured elbow for almost THREE months - I'm going mad with withdrawal actually. Maybe I should try this one, if it's as soft as you say.

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 02:50 AM
Donīt forget to put the screw in when youīre putting it back together.

;)

Bud
02-18-2009, 02:55 AM
Yes, they DO collapse - into two pieces. And yes, you're right, it is a Touch-F.

I haven't quite had the courage to try mine yet, but now I'm thinking I have to put my money where my mouth is. Plus post photos.

So, how many 'Touch' models were there? Differences?

Bud
02-18-2009, 02:56 AM
Hey, youīre right. It took some effort though, gently didnīt work so i wedged the stick between my shoes and pulled hard.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2074/18022009346dx6.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18022009346dx6.jpg)

Now I bet you're really ticked for not obtaining that large lot of Touch H's :twisted:

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 02:59 AM
I know of the following:

Ellipse Touch-H (Black frame)
Ellipse Touch-F (Black/Green frame)
Ellipse Touch-C (Red frame)

No idea what the difference between them is, apart from the colour.

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 03:05 AM
Now I bet you're really ticked for not obtaining that large lot of Touch H's :twisted:

Stop rubbing it in.

:cry:

Bud
02-18-2009, 03:38 AM
Stop rubbing it in.

:cry:

You should write that guy a nastygram for making a deal and then reneging on it. Not cool or acceptable.

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 03:48 AM
You should write that guy a nastygram for making a deal and then reneging on it. Not cool or acceptable.

I already did, as soon as i received his email. :twisted:

Bud
02-18-2009, 03:50 AM
I already did, as soon as i received his email. :twisted:

Good job! He definitely deserved it :)

goldenyama
02-18-2009, 04:47 AM
Underwater disco harpoon - I cracked up :D

VGP
02-18-2009, 05:05 AM
I wonder if the person or people that own the rights to that design formed Jenro....


http://www.jenrosport.com/


.....they market their rackets as having interchangeable handles and heads, providing a variety of handle types and headsizes made of different materials. Collapsible design is good for travel and stringing.

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 05:24 AM
I wonder if the person or people that own the rights to that design formed Jenro.

Either that, or they copied the design completely.

VGP
02-18-2009, 05:54 AM
It looks too close to have been "copied." So much so that Snauert would sue. Perhaps the engineers that developed the Ellipse Touch series got the rights and decided to form their own company.

Rorsach
02-18-2009, 06:05 AM
It looks too close to have been "copied." So much so that Snauert would sue. Perhaps the engineers that developed the Ellipse Touch series got the rights and decided to form their own company.

There's no Snauwaert left to sue.

VGP
02-18-2009, 09:46 AM
Yeah, you're right.

Perhaps someone got the rights to the name and/or designs.

Jenro seems to have possession of this one......

Captain Haddock
02-18-2009, 04:42 PM
They may be OK for tennis elbow sufferers, but I don't know if I would call them "soft", though. They feel rather disconnected. Pretty much every time a manufacturer tries to separate the handle from the frame (V-Con for Yonex, ISIS for Dunlop, etc.), the result is a form of numbness, a lack of feel. I've only tried the red "C" model, and could not get rid of it fast enough. Nice design inspired by Le Coq Sportif, but not the best Snauwaert ever made, in my opinion.

plasma
02-18-2009, 07:40 PM
your opinion is indeed a wise one shared by many experts, how you won the Prohand contest was imprsessive, borderline legendary. Snauwaert used to be as good as Donnay and Fischer. Sometimes on rainy days I'll head to the park and pull out my coq and start stroking, not to impress anyone or to be different, just for fun:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2l9twzc.jpg
the locals were shocked at first, having not seen anything like it before, now they are used to it and almost expect it of me
http://i42.tinypic.com/2nhqql4.jpg


great for relieving stress!

Rorsach
02-20-2009, 05:26 AM
I got my hands on some deadstock of these, and apparently you're not supposed to take them apart. If you dismantle it, it's no longer covered by the warrenty. It's a nice side-effect to the dampening system though.

Bud
02-20-2009, 05:29 AM
I got my hands on some deadstock of these, and apparently you're not supposed to take them apart. If you dismantle it, it's no longer covered by the warrenty. It's a nice side-effect to the dampening system though.

Whoa! That's good to know :shock:

What damage occurs to the racquet if it's taken apart?

Rorsach
02-20-2009, 05:31 AM
Whoa! That's good to know :shock:

What damage occurs to the racquet if it's taken apart?

Nothing. I took apart that Touch-H, but i put it back together without problems.
The facecard of the stick also doesn't mention anything about being able to take it apart though.

tailofdog
02-24-2009, 07:01 PM
I have 2 JENROS out of five left. I sold the other 3 and am playing with these two 95 sq in racquets. They are the same family as the above racquets. They play nicel. 95 sq i (630 cm) 330 grm strung 12. 07 oz
If you have a two piece racquet you, soon see what a good idea it is. If someone tells you of the idea it sounds stupid.
I guess thats human nature

plasma
02-27-2009, 12:57 AM
60 years from now when I go to heaven there will be elipse touches in mid and standard size. Or if I'm a bad Plasma I will go to the other place, where there are only bergelin longstrings and Chris Avengers!!! with broken strings!!!!! aaahhhhhhh!!!!

Virginia
02-27-2009, 02:28 AM
No, plasma - that other place will have all the current racquets they're selling. Bergelins are far too good for that place, even though mine has devilishly red strings. The Chris I don't know about, so can't comment. Pics please! ;)

plasma
02-27-2009, 09:25 PM
the chris suffered from an enlarged thyroid condition. It seems almost cruel to post a pic...

jimbo333
02-28-2009, 02:55 AM
Yes, it's too ugly for words!!!

plasma
02-28-2009, 09:06 PM
bergelin was also invented by delorean. The guy who was the designer of the car with the funky up doors. The fbi kidnapped his daughter and forced him to sell blow, and then tried to frame him for it... its a warm hearted tale that just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
http://www.nextautos.com/auto-news/john-delorean-designed-tennis-rackets-dmc40-love
the longstring somehow failed to resemble the sleekness of a delorean

Hannah19
03-20-2009, 01:16 PM
My guess is that the "H" stands for Hard or Hitter because it seems stiffer.
The "F" for Flexible and the "C" for Comfortable.:confused:

Hannah19
03-20-2009, 01:20 PM
The post above concerns the Snauwaerts,
I put in the post after reading page 1 of 3, sorry!
:oops:

Hannah19
03-20-2009, 01:28 PM
By the way, I just checked out the Jenro website; even their "J" looks like the Snauwaert "S". It does look like a copycat or they were clever enough to get the patents from Snauwaert after their bankrupty.