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spksz
03-01-2005, 07:38 AM
anyone tried this racquet? how does it feel and hows its playability?

ferrari_827
03-01-2005, 07:45 AM
This is one of my favorite rackets, and one of the best rackets ever made. Problem is, it's discontinued, and those who have them probably won't sell it.

The Ti-70 long is very good on all strokes, but notably on serve and volleys. Stringing is &*very important*, use a good synthetic/multi at low tensions (48-50lbs). At over 12oz, the Ti70 long is maneuverable and fairly comfortable.

spksz
03-01-2005, 07:46 AM
what would be the consequences of stringing it at high tensions? like 50lbs and above?

ferrari_827
03-01-2005, 08:14 AM
Because the racket is 18x20, it feels very stiff, uncomfortable, and lacks power above 50lbs. It is tiring because you have to swing *very hard*.

spksz
03-01-2005, 08:27 AM
but would the control still be good with a tension at 48-50?

ferrari_827
03-01-2005, 09:12 AM
Yes, you get pinpoint control at 48-50lbs. You get more control than a 16x18 at 60lbs !!

Chauvalito
08-24-2007, 07:23 PM
I am very interested in this racket...has anyone hit with the mid at any point in time.

The specs are really interesting, and I see the racket as more of a fun change of pace rather than a regular stick.

Thank you for any input.

KOtennis
08-24-2007, 07:29 PM
the ti-70 long is very demanding, and the mid is even harder to use.

both have great control and feel. string and string tension is very important.

in my humble opinion, you definitely need to be 4.0 or above to wield this racquet into battle.

Safina
08-24-2007, 07:30 PM
i played w the mid and the mp at one point.

scored my only double bagel ever using the mid.
had about 18 aces... and volleys were unbelievable.

when my serve was off though, it was more demanding than
a PC600 and I eventually gave up on it.. should not have sold
it though!

the MP is another GREAT racquet. 27.5" and 98" headsize.
It is stable and a great baseline racquet. It was a solid/heavy
old school racquet that I loved hitting with. I switched after
watching a bunch of very good players using lighter and spinnier
frames.

I haven't really looked back, except when I think of the great returns of
serve I would hit the the MP and the aces I would hit with the mid.

Still, I hit much better today, and use a lighter racquet that I can whip around to take control of points better. That's my take FWIW.

Keifers
08-24-2007, 07:44 PM
A few years ago, a friend of mine had a 98" -- I hit HUGE serves with that stick!

Beautiful red pj.

Chauvalito
08-24-2007, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I appreciate it. I am really looking at this racket as more of a nostalgia hit, rather than a regular racket.

I am currently playing with the k95 18x20, so I think I will be able to handle the ti-70 for a set, but probably not more.

I have one other question. Is the handle a foam pallet? If I get one, it will be in a 5/8 grip, and I usually use a 3/8, and occasionally a 1/2.

Chauvalito
08-24-2007, 07:50 PM
i played w the mid and the mp at one point.

scored my only double bagel ever using the mid.
had about 18 aces... and volleys were unbelievable.

when my serve was off though, it was more demanding than
a PC600 and I eventually gave up on it.. should not have sold
it though!

the MP is another GREAT racquet. 27.5" and 98" headsize.
It is stable and a great baseline racquet. It was a solid/heavy
old school racquet that I loved hitting with. I switched after
watching a bunch of very good players using lighter and spinnier
frames.

I haven't really looked back, except when I think of the great returns of
serve I would hit the the MP and the aces I would hit with the mid.

Still, I hit much better today, and use a lighter racquet that I can whip around to take control of points better. That's my take FWIW.

If I went with the 98, I would eventually cut it down to 27" for my one handed backhand.

The 88 sounds ridiculous, especially with the dense pattern.

Did any of you hit with the RD-TI 50 by any chance? That racket seems a little more user friendly. There are a few places where you can get the 95 sq. inch long version new...

Chauvalito
08-24-2007, 08:04 PM
I just checked a few places and found out that resizing the grip wont be too much of a problem...it might be a little expensive, but I think it will be worth it if I get a few of these rackets.

Chauvalito
08-26-2007, 07:33 PM
I really want a few of these, and a few of the 88 version...

In D Zone
08-27-2007, 09:58 PM
I got mine (Ti70 Long) used purchased here at TW. The racquet got leads at 9 and 3 o clock, strung with hybrid strings at 58 lbs. I found the racquet too tinny and did not like the feel of it. So I decided to bring this racquet back to its original form - I removed the lead, changed the leather grip to Head Hydrosorb synthetic grip, added a rubber band dampener - Viola! The Ti70 started to play what I expected from a Yonex racquet.

I played with the Ti 70 Long last Friday for about 2.5 hours with my ball machine and was not disappointed. The added .5 inch long was not an issue at all for me - easier on serve, did not find any difference on my strokes - SW forehand and 1BH Eastern. The advantage I noticed is the 18 x20 offers better control and is easier on the arm compared to the 16x 19 string pattern.

Maybe I'm used to playing stiffer and 12 oz racquets. The hybrid strings held up pretty well (prestrung at 58 lbs) to the pounding I did - I don't have a problem with the racquet strung beyond 50lbs. Ti70 is surprisingly light for a 12 oz and is comparable to other Yonex Mplus I own and play >Ti-80; RD002 Tour and MP Tour 1 Mplus.

db379
08-28-2007, 07:28 AM
I have played with both, and owned the 98. They are fantastic racquets! Great feel and control. I actually prefered the 88 for the feel and power, but it was very demanding in matches. It's a shame they don't make them anymore becasue they were some of the best frames ever.

Chauvalito
08-28-2007, 07:39 AM
I have played with both, and owned the 98. They are fantastic racquets! Great feel and control. I actually prefered the 88 for the feel and power, but it was very demanding in matches. It's a shame they don't make them anymore becasue they were some of the best frames ever.

I have yet to play with this racket, but based on the specs and the old reviews I found at TW I am doing everything I can to find some.

I have only found 1, but it was in a 5/8 grip. I have made 1 contact and hopefully they will come through in due time.

!Tym
08-28-2007, 08:35 AM
Hi, if you're interested in three RD-Ti 50 Longs in your preferred grip size, e-mail me. I'll give you an awesome deal.

xpaulinabearx
08-29-2007, 10:36 AM
Oh. I saw this racket at Chick's. I was about to buy it, but I heard longer rackets are harder to hit with. AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE LEFT! I asked the person who worked there and he said they weren't getting anymore :(

In D Zone
11-20-2007, 11:05 AM
Just managed to score a RD Ti70 88 this week; waiting for the racquet to arrive. I am thinking of stringing with hybrid - prosupex premier ace 17g (52lb) and spiral flex 16g (54lb).

I wanted to know if the tension is good or should I even go lower tension for the Ti70 88?

My current SRD mid is strung at 58lbs (m) and 56lbs (x).

kamen rider
01-03-2008, 03:57 PM
I have a few of these racquets in standard and Long version with varied grips.

My personal preference is the Long version. My normal playing racquet is the Long in 4 1/2 using BB Fluoro and Bablobat Superfine. Random job but it hits fantastic...so easy to aim for shots. The rest are still in mint.

I'm tempted to unwrap my 4 1/8 Long racquet just to see how it feels like to hit with such a slim grip.

Hahah..I love this racquet

NLBwell
01-03-2008, 08:28 PM
My views on the ti 70's are similar to Safinas. For the mid, because of the tight string pattern, I strung it around 52lbs with alpha gut or livewire. Because of the tight string pattern, the strings last a long time. Never used poly in it but I would definitely go lower if I did. It's not a powerful racket so I myself wouldn't use poly in it at all. The only time the tight pattern was a weakness was second serves, it was hard to get the bounce up above the head, but on first serves and other shots it felt like a dagger with quick complete control. The 70 long felt more like a sword. Huge power (with my long strokes) on serves and groundstrokes, definitely not as quick on volleys and midcourt game.

The ti50 rackets had a more open pattern, but were unstable in the head, so I didn't like them. They were fun to hit around with, though, because they were quick and you could play around with spins a lot. People on these boards stated that lead tape on the head cured the problem of the instability, but I never tried that.

In D Zone
01-04-2008, 08:02 AM
I strung t Ti 70 88 with hybrid 17g - main 50lbs (poly) and cross 52lbs (syn). I found the tension too soft for my game and I had to swing harder to generate power.
I will string the second Ti 70 88 with a little bit higher tension to see if the tighter tension will offer more pop - Cross 55lbs / Main 53 lbs.

I am surprised with how easily it is to play with this mid (88 ). Its very stable, great control and a perfect weapon for 1hbh. I think its only a matter of experimenting and tuning the string type and tension to match it to my game.

In D Zone
01-04-2008, 08:09 AM
Ti 70 Long - restrung with hybrid Poly / syn.

First test after the new strings - felt the head too light and unstable. I added lead back on the head (3 and 9 ) - big difference. Racquet felt more responsive especially on serve and when you are swinging fast.

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WBF
01-04-2008, 10:05 AM
Oh man! Memories... I used to weild this during juniors. It is a wonderful stick, but I would recommend picking up something easier to get a hold of!

On the topic of difficulty... I used this, the i.prestige through college, and now the n6.1 95 (18x20). If you are playing with the k95, I can't imagine you having much trouble.

db379
08-06-2008, 08:49 AM
I strung t Ti 70 88 with hybrid 17g - main 50lbs (poly) and cross 52lbs (syn). I found the tension too soft for my game and I had to swing harder to generate power.
I will string the second Ti 70 88 with a little bit higher tension to see if the tighter tension will offer more pop - Cross 55lbs / Main 53 lbs.

I am surprised with how easily it is to play with this mid (88 ). Its very stable, great control and a perfect weapon for 1hbh. I think its only a matter of experimenting and tuning the string type and tension to match it to my game.

The ti 70 88 is a great stick but very demanding. How does it compare to your rds 001 mid for stability, control, comfort?

In D Zone
08-06-2008, 09:02 AM
The ti 70 88 is a great stick but very demanding. How does it compare to your rds 001 mid for stability, control, comfort?

RDS001 mid - is easier to play and offers more power.

Ti70 88 -Yes, it is a bit demanading to play but once you know how to play with it you'll love how this racquet perfrom. It requires a full fast swing to generate a good power; I have learned that I need to turn my shoulder slightly quicker so I can achieve a better full swing and to stay relax at each stroke to achieve better racquet speed. the ti 70 88 is definitely a great racquet - solid all over specialy on the control department.

db379
08-13-2008, 01:42 PM
RDS001 mid - is easier to play and offers more power.

Ti70 88 -Yes, it is a bit demanading to play but once you know how to play with it you'll love how this racquet perfrom. It requires a full fast swing to generate a good power; I have learned that I need to turn my shoulder slightly quicker so I can achieve a better full swing and to stay relax at each stroke to achieve better racquet speed. the ti 70 88 is definitely a great racquet - solid all over specialy on the control department.

I have played with the ti70 88 and loved it. Great control. I haven't played with the rds 001 mid (played with the rdx 500 mid though). I am used to flexy racquets, although I like the PS 6.0 95 and the K90 a lot as well. They are stiff frames but still flexy and comfortable.

Is the rds 001 mid much stiffer than these? I tried briefly the 001 MP and felt it was too stiff for my taste. Could you compare the 001 mid to the ti 70 88 for serves and volleys? Which one i more comfortable?

db379
08-13-2008, 01:46 PM
BTW, could you also compare the 001 mid to the mp1 90? I quite liked the mp1 90 as well. Very different frame, but very solid. I guess I like heavy and solid feeling frames. I can generate my own power. Thx.

In D Zone
09-04-2008, 08:26 AM
I have played with the ti70 88 and loved it. Great control. I haven't played with the rds 001 mid (played with the rdx 500 mid though). I am used to flexy racquets, although I like the PS 6.0 95 and the K90 a lot as well. They are stiff frames but still flexy and comfortable.

Is the rds 001 mid much stiffer than these? I tried briefly the 001 MP and felt it was too stiff for my taste. Could you compare the 001 mid to the ti 70 88 for serves and volleys? Which one i more comfortable?


RDS001 Mid surprisingly felt much lighter and dampened feel compared to Ti70 88. It has to do with the modern material used on the frame. Although there is a slight difference on the head size between the two - the Ti 70 definitely look smaller and very manueverable - allowing you to whip thru the ball with a much aggressive swing. Granded that a faster swing is required when playing TI70 to generate good power and spin.
Power - definitely goes with the slightly bigger built RDS001; also, offering the more larger sweetspot.

S&V - I'd say about even - can't say I prefer one over the other since I love to play with both of them. But to other players it all boils down to each's playing style and frame stiffness preference. Ti 70 88 offers great control but you have to be dead on with ball contact due to a smaller sweet spot and stiffer frame. YES - very old school. RDS001 Mid is much player friendly with its generous sweetspot that is really hard to find in a mid sized frame. RDS001 definitely offers control and power.


BTW, could you also compare the 001 mid to the mp1 90? I quite liked the mp1 90 as well. Very different frame, but very solid. I guess I like heavy and solid feeling frames. I can generate my own power. Thx.

MP1 Tour 90 is definitely heavier and offers a little more umph on the ball. RDS001 mid was made to play between butterly feel of RDX500 mid and the crisp aggressive feel of SRD Tour 90 mid or MP1 Tour90.
I was surprised to find that the MP1 Tour 90 did not get as much accolades as the SRD Tour 90 and RDS001 mid. It's one of the solid mid sizd frame out there. May be because Hewitt did not endorsed the MP1 Tour during his early years - he continued to play with the SRD Tour 90 till he finally switched the RDS001. And also the MP Tour 1 bland paintjob (bronze/ black).