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OleNole
02-20-2009, 07:59 AM
The new rankings came out today. As always, some interesting stuff there. Tennessee is number four in the team rankings, Tulsa's Arnau Bruges is number 1 in singles, Virginia's top 3 are all in the top 20, OSU's Moneke falls from 3 to 22 without losing a match.

http://www.itatennis.com/AwardsAndRankings/Rankings/2008-09_DI_Men_s_Rankings.htm

Fedace
02-20-2009, 07:17 PM
If the singles results from the ITA indoors is any indication, Nate Schnugg from Georgia should be considered new #1 in division 1 tennis. His game looks like nothing special, but he knows how to win big matches. and He is deceptively quick.

cujays
02-21-2009, 05:38 AM
how can you go from 3 to 22 without losing a match??
that shouldnt be possible

OleNole
02-21-2009, 05:50 AM
That's just the ITA. Obviously Moneke never deserved to be number three in the country when he played 3 on his own team. It's like Brugues now. Yeah he's a great player, but look at the top 6 guys (Brugues, Nedovyesov, Farah, Koniecko, Venus, Inglot), and he's almost certainly the 6th best of those guys.

Fedace- Schnugg is #11.

ttbrowne
02-21-2009, 06:10 AM
Nothing against the other guys but Brugues is 26-3 and that includes a 14-3 record against nationally-ranked opponents. He's also won six matches over opponents currently ranked in the top-25 of the latest national singles poll.

Not bad.

OleNole
02-21-2009, 01:54 PM
Brugues is 23-3 according to collgetennisonline. Koniecko is even better at 19-2 with his only losses coming to fellow top 10-ers Blake Strode and JP Smith. Inglot is 15-3 with a few dnf's that he was leading in, including one against Brugues and another against Smith. Steve Moneke is 19-3 with his only losses against top 4 players Brugues, Koniecko and Farah.

Moreover (and this is my real problem with the rankings) there were several players ahead of Brugues in the last rankings who either did not lose (Moneke, Farah) or only lost to players ahead of Brugues in the rankings (Koniecko, Inglot). Brugues has played only 1 top 10 player since the last rankings came out (Venus, who he owns).
SO somehow he's managed to jump both guys with slightly lesser records but stronger schedules and guys with equally good records. If the rankings are purely by the numbers, shouldn't Moneke be 1, as he was the highest ranked guy to go undeated between the two sets of rankings? If they go by record, shouldn't it be Koniecko, who's only lost twice all year?