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jorel
02-24-2009, 09:48 AM
All things being equal… the one-handed player will get tired quicker than the two handed player… due to the fact that the one hander uses one arm the entire match while the two hander is using another hand to help play the entire match.…. True / False?

SirBlend12
02-24-2009, 09:51 AM
Not true. If anything my legs/back go LONG before my 1hb.

ESP#1
02-24-2009, 10:01 AM
maybe not that day but i could see where ripping one handed backhands could cause more shoulder problems in the long run, but when you rip one down the line it all seems to be worth it:)

Winners or Errors
02-24-2009, 10:05 AM
Really depends on the one-handed backhand. I find it much easier to hit a flat, powerful ball on the backhand side than the forehand side.

My backhand requires little or no effort, so long as I'm not trading high bouncing topspin strokes or stretching for wide topspin shots on that side. In those two cases, I can see how two hands may be better and easier. I often wish I could hit a two hander.

With the opponents I play, I think a two hander would require more effort.

Bottle Rocket
02-24-2009, 10:05 AM
Four-wheel drive cars use more gas than two-wheel drive cars.

That is my simple response to your simple analysis. There are so many other things to take into consideration that it is impossible to make any blanket statements like yours with any sort of accuracy. The strokes entail more than standing in one spot. For one stroke you stick out one arm, and the other you stick out one arm with the help of another? What about footwork? Balance? Preparation? There's more "stuff" going on there.

edberg505
02-24-2009, 10:10 AM
maybe not that day but i could see where ripping one handed backhands could cause more shoulder problems in the long run, but when you rip one down the line it all seems to be worth it:)

I'm not sure where this myth keeps popping up from, but I can't see how there's any truth to it.

Rhino
02-24-2009, 10:23 AM
I'm not sure where this myth keeps popping up from, but I can't see how there's any truth to it.

Tommy Haas maybe; three shoulder operations.

saram
02-24-2009, 10:30 AM
Not true. If anything my legs/back go LONG before my 1hb.

Ditto with me.

circusmouse
02-24-2009, 10:33 AM
Tommy Haas maybe; three shoulder operations.

I think those were more related to serving. When he was recovering from those operations, he had to hit soft serves, but I believe his backhand was fine.

The 1hbh does rely on some smallish muscles in the upper back that could tire relatively quickly, but the only time I've ever experienced that problem was with a ball machine. Of course, I've never played Nadal.

dandaman
02-24-2009, 10:39 AM
It all depends on technique.

But you'll defnetally not got more tired from a single hander.

It's often easier to produce faster flatter shots with a single hander.

But a single hander is very difficult on clay if you get very high balls on it.

I think a single and double hander is mostly equal in all terms

JRstriker12
02-24-2009, 10:40 AM
All things being equal… the one-handed player will get tired quicker than the two handed player… due to the fact that the one hander uses one arm the entire match while the two hander is using another hand to help play the entire match.…. True / False?

False.

IMHO, getting tired durring a tennis match is more about how much running, jumping, and cutting you have to do. Simply hitting the ball (forehand or backhand) very rarely tires me out. All things being equal - it think the 1hbh and the 2hbh player are equally tired.

Satch
02-24-2009, 10:43 AM
All things being equal… the one-handed player will get tired quicker than the two handed player… due to the fact that the one hander uses one arm the entire match while the two hander is using another hand to help play the entire match.…. True / False?

true, if you are 5 yo kid...

Chadwixx
02-24-2009, 10:48 AM
Tommy Haas maybe; three shoulder operations.

Unless your hitting the ball really late you cant really hurt your shoulder. Straight armed one handed backhands will kill/break your elbow though.

Two hands require one more step and more effort in my opinion. With the one hander you create momentum (from the body) and then let it fly.

jmverdugo
02-24-2009, 10:50 AM
Four-wheel drive cars use more gas than two-wheel drive cars.


Not that I agree with the OP, but I think your analogy is not accurate. 4 wheel cars use more gas because they are usually bigger and have bigger engines, but if you compare the same truck one regular and the other one 4x4 the difference in gas consumption are minimal.

Regarding the OP, I think that the right arm will get tired faster in one handers than in two handers, because you are using the same arm for everything, but I think that, depending on technique, a club player wont notice the difference up to the 3 or 4 hours of playing, and by that time probably the already had the first heart attack so it wont matter that much any way :)

Edit: also the amount of BHs hit by a One Handers arent that much anyway, they hit it so bad that they keep running around it to hit Fhs, LOL sorry j/k :P

JRstriker12
02-24-2009, 11:18 AM
Not that I agree with the OP, but I think your analogy is not accurate. 4 wheel cars use more gas because they are usually bigger and have bigger engines, but if you compare the same truck one regular and the other one 4x4 the difference in gas consumption are minimal.

Regarding the OP, I think that the right arm will get tired faster in one handers than in two handers, because you are using the same arm for everything, but I think that, depending on technique, a club player wont notice the difference up to the 3 or 4 hours of playing, and by that time probably the already had the first heart attack so it wont matter that much any way :)

Edit: also the amount of BHs hit by a One Handers arent that much anyway, they hit it so bad that they keep running around it to hit Fhs, LOL sorry j/k :P


By that same reasoning, a two hander would use more energy, since not only are the using the same arm for both shots, they use a second arm in the backhand.

I've never seen anyone complain that their arm was tired from hitting 1-hbh. Besides, most of the energy from hitting a 1-hbh does not come from the arm.

In the end, it doesn't really matter which stroke you use. All things being equal - as stated by the OP - the players will be equally tired.

edberg505
02-24-2009, 11:18 AM
Tommy Haas maybe; three shoulder operations.

So you can prove it was his backhand that caused the problems? Look I hit a onehander and I had shoulder problems, but I can assure you I could go out and hit all day long when I had a problem with my shoulder. It was the serve that really did the damage to my shoulder. Not the backhand. In fact when I had problems with my shoulder I would just go out and hit groundies until the cows came home and my shoulder was just fine.

jmverdugo
02-24-2009, 11:26 AM
By that same reasoning, a two hander would use more energy, since not only are the using the same arm for both shots, they use a second arm in the backhand.

I've never seen anyone complain that their arm was tired from hitting 1-hbh. Besides, most of the energy from hitting a 1-hbh does not come from the arm.

In the end, it doesn't really matter which stroke you use. All things being equal - as stated by the OP - the players will be equally tired.

Probably yes, but talking specifically about arm tireness it would make sense that the "arm" would get tired quickly on the one hander because it is the only one being used. Specially if you are constantly attacked to your BH side, to avoid that obviously you would have to do most exercises on that arm and, obviously, with time your arm will get the required development to hold the whole match.

I agree with your second statement though, overall they will be equally tired.

ESP#1
02-25-2009, 07:18 AM
Well I guess if you use alot of slice or run around your backhand then it is less likely to cause shoulder problems, but a solid one hand backhand tends to have a bigger backswing then a solid two hander and more shoulder turn, also the two hander uses the opposing arm for a large portion of the swing, just watch the best of them, simple bio mechanics show that with these factors the one hander runs a higher risk of injury overtime, not saying it will just saying there is a larger probability

Valdez737
02-25-2009, 08:43 PM
It does get tired much faster then a 2hb. I notice it when I play 1hb if I keep hiting to the 1hb they keep geting slower takeing it back and with the swing. They start to hit short and hit net/out and sliceing.