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christos_liaskos
02-25-2009, 05:23 AM
After seeing a point recently and thinking that it was the best point I'd ever seen I was tempted to make this thread. I am thinking it's probably impossible though to come up with one point that is the best. However, can a shortlist be made? If so, a shortlist of how many? Top 3, top 5, top 10?

Anyway, here is the point that inspired me to make this thread... I'm afraid I dont have a clip but I will tell you all when it was... hopefully some of you will know which point I mean :), and maybe someone can find a clip.
The he point was in this years Aussie final between Fed and Raf. In the 4th set at 2-2, and either 2nd or 3rd deuce they played a point where 5 or 6 shots should have been winners. Eventually Federer hit a HUGE inside out f/h into Rafa's f/h that should have been a clean winner, instead Rafa somehow raps his racket around the ball and sends it down the line for a winner. He then stands and raises his arms as if he's won the title. I hope atleast some of you remember it :), it was an immense point!

Any other suggestions?

I think one rule we all have to agree on is that it ends with a clean winner. Apart from that I'm not sure what hard rules we can have. Another point I was tempted to suggest was between the same two players at Wimbledon last year. In the 4th set tiebreak, Federer saved a match point with a b/h winner down the line after Nadal hit a huge forehand approach. This point was only 4 shots long and therefore maybe shouldnt be considered? However, the cicrumstances in which Federer hit that shot may make it a contender? I am still sticking with my first suggestion though :).

raiden031
02-25-2009, 05:25 AM
There is a point on youtube between Fed and Roddick and Roddick hits an overhead in the corner and Fed gets it back, I think for a winner. Then Roddick throws his racquet across the court. That was an amazing point.

christos_liaskos
02-25-2009, 05:54 AM
I have found a clip for the point I suggested :). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUxVp1NIrek
It must be good since someone else also decided it was good enough to put on youtube :D

oscar_2424
02-25-2009, 05:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXnpGE4lzVo

oscar_2424
02-25-2009, 05:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DR1jmt4suA

oscar_2424
02-25-2009, 06:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xUGnH6MSo&feature=related
my personal favorite :)

oscar_2424
02-25-2009, 06:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N7eRqrNY6o

christos_liaskos
02-25-2009, 06:22 AM
OK.... some good suggesions there Oscar but you've got me thinking, we cant just go through youtube and pick every clip :D. Maybe some rules to stick by would be pushing the limits of physical ability, mental abillity and talent/technique. While all your clips show awesome talent/technique in terms of trick shots, you dont get the feeling the players are pushing to the limits of what's humanly possible either physically or mentally.

In the clip I showed the players push the technical limits to the extreme by repeatidly hitting huge shots to the lines whilst they also push their mental and physical limits by somehow running down these shots over and over and showing willingness to go for even more on their reply rather than play conservatively.

At the time Hewitt and Federer played a 45 shot rally at Indian Wells some said it was one of the greatest points ever. However, watching it again, the first 20 shots or so are very conservative. The physical side may be pushed in that point but they rarely go for lines or big winners, just building the point.

oscar_2424
02-25-2009, 06:24 AM
well i always go with my people( horna) and rios of course he is a genius, and the santoro point was worth to mention too.

ronalditop
02-25-2009, 06:41 AM
hey oscar, who do you think is going to be horna's successor? cause he's getting old now, maybe one or two more years of tennis and then he might retire.

mikeler
02-25-2009, 06:47 AM
There is a point on youtube between Fed and Roddick and Roddick hits an overhead in the corner and Fed gets it back, I think for a winner. Then Roddick throws his racquet across the court. That was an amazing point.


I've seen that one. Federer basically hits a running slice overhead off of Roddick's overhead and curls the ball in for a perfect DTL passing shot. It's funny watching Federer laugh at Roddick throw his racket down because Roddick was not mad, just was in awe.

oscar_2424
02-25-2009, 06:58 AM
hey oscar, who do you think is going to be horna's successor? cause he's getting old now, maybe one or two more years of tennis and then he might retire.

I think this is his last year, the guy's body is broken...:(

veroniquem
02-25-2009, 07:12 AM
After seeing a point recently and thinking that it was the best point I'd ever seen I was tempted to make this thread. I am thinking it's probably impossible though to come up with one point that is the best. However, can a shortlist be made? If so, a shortlist of how many? Top 3, top 5, top 10?

Anyway, here is the point that inspired me to make this thread... I'm afraid I dont have a clip but I will tell you all when it was... hopefully some of you will know which point I mean :), and maybe someone can find a clip.
The he point was in this years Aussie final between Fed and Raf. In the 4th set at 2-2, and either 2nd or 3rd deuce they played a point where 5 or 6 shots should have been winners. Eventually Federer hit a HUGE inside out f/h into Rafa's f/h that should have been a clean winner, instead Rafa somehow raps his racket around the ball and sends it down the line for a winner. He then stands and raises his arms as if he's won the title. I hope atleast some of you remember it :), it was an immense point!

Any other suggestions?

I think one rule we all have to agree on is that it ends with a clean winner. Apart from that I'm not sure what hard rules we can have. Another point I was tempted to suggest was between the same two players at Wimbledon last year. In the 4th set tiebreak, Federer saved a match point with a b/h winner down the line after Nadal hit a huge forehand approach. This point was only 4 shots long and therefore maybe shouldnt be considered? However, the cicrumstances in which Federer hit that shot may make it a contender? I am still sticking with my first suggestion though :).
That AO final point you're describing is unbelievable, my favorite of AO I think. I also like the point in the semi vs Verdasco, when Nadal's ball went all the way around the post and ended up falling in the court. There are great points in every tournament, it makes it hard to remember them other than the most recent ones.

tahiti
02-25-2009, 09:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibxK4dXSzQ0&feature=related

Not really the best video but exactly the one described, when Rafa runs out wide in the tram lines and curls the ball back in around the post for a winner.

iamke55
02-25-2009, 09:21 AM
I think I found one that fits all of your criteria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZ-ltWuS9I

cucio
02-25-2009, 10:28 AM
And people say watching Nadal is boring. Reading them you would think the guy has no technique, he can only run and push and doesn't know which end the stick is held. Whatever, lazy people like to thing in black and white, good and evil, beauty and the beast, etc. Their loss.

There are many great shots, like there are many great players. It is rare the pro tournament that doesn't produce a handful of points for the ages, but they are quickly forgotten, especially if they happen in a match with two low-ranked contenders. Just start with one in youtube and keep clicking related videos. Some of the things these guys manage to come up with are unreal.

You can also consider not only the ability, but the timing and the significance. Fed's BH in Wimby 2008 4th set TB was not only a great shot from a technical standpoint, but an amazing display of king-size wilanders.

tacou
02-25-2009, 11:09 AM
You can also consider not only the ability, but the timing and the significance. Fed's BH in Wimby 2008 4th set TB was not only a great shot from a technical standpoint, but an amazing display of king-size wilanders.

if we're beginning the never ending search for best point of all time, I'd respectfully disagree. we should look for points that display the best skill, period.

that Fed point is a very, very good point and an extremely great passing shot, but it is the significance of the point in the match that makes that point legendary. the point shows how amazing fed can play when under pressure, but he's been involved in dozens of points that impress with pure talent.

Run.
02-25-2009, 05:23 PM
There is a point on youtube between Fed and Roddick and Roddick hits an overhead in the corner and Fed gets it back, I think for a winner. Then Roddick throws his racquet across the court. That was an amazing point.

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hp-EArV6s8

Skanavis
02-25-2009, 05:38 PM
Hey, This is an awesome thread, i love all these points.

This is a bunch of good points. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3RX_CS-yrE

zachattack698
02-25-2009, 05:47 PM
got to love this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubmmOPuuGYc suprised it has not been posted yet

egn
02-25-2009, 05:54 PM
OK.... some good suggesions there Oscar but you've got me thinking, we cant just go through youtube and pick every clip :D. Maybe some rules to stick by would be pushing the limits of physical ability, mental abillity and talent/technique. While all your clips show awesome talent/technique in terms of trick shots, you dont get the feeling the players are pushing to the limits of what's humanly possible either physically or mentally.

In the clip I showed the players push the technical limits to the extreme by repeatidly hitting huge shots to the lines whilst they also push their mental and physical limits by somehow running down these shots over and over and showing willingness to go for even more on their reply rather than play conservatively.

At the time Hewitt and Federer played a 45 shot rally at Indian Wells some said it was one of the greatest points ever. However, watching it again, the first 20 shots or so are very conservative. The physical side may be pushed in that point but they rarely go for lines or big winners, just building the point.

Okay so you are basically saying it has to be some intense rally and in which some guy nails a nice winner? The AO final point no offense shotwise is not that amazing its good baseline game with a really good end shot but the end shot itself I am not like wow I am like that was well played tennis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xUGnH6MSo&feature=related
my personal favorite :)

That wows me..sure it doesn't push the limits. I am sorry did you see that guy? He was diving..mid air and hit that shot in..and then got back up to hit a smash winner. Note that diving mid air shot was on a clay court drop volley which means that ball was dying fast. I think that counts as very limit pushing and the shot was amazement.

$$$$mony$$$$
02-25-2009, 06:23 PM
Hey, This is an awesome thread, i love all these points.

This is a bunch of good points. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3RX_CS-yrE

Thats my video. made in the summer of 06 or 07. took sooo long. the rap music really was a bad choice im ****ed they muted me though

JeMar
02-25-2009, 06:33 PM
I think I found one that fits all of your criteria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZ-ltWuS9I

That was effing cool.

Skanavis
02-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Thats my video. made in the summer of 06 or 07. took sooo long. the rap music really was a bad choice im ****ed they muted me though
Really? Thats cool? I like the first song, but after that i just dont want to watch it because i really dislike the music.

$$$$mony$$$$
02-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Really? Thats cool? I like the first song, but after that i just dont want to watch it because i really dislike the music.

yeah i mean i was 14 or 15. those ages don't make the best music choices. i want to make another one without the music and with current points. i think i should start it this march. what do you guys think? as a senior in high school i think i will make it with out music and just natural sounds of the racket and ball with the crowd behind it

SempreSami
02-25-2009, 07:17 PM
The one in the men's final at Wimbledon in 2007 when Nadal fell on his arse as he hit a winner.

Skanavis
02-25-2009, 07:19 PM
yeah i mean i was 14 or 15. those ages don't make the best music choices. i want to make another one without the music and with current points. i think i should start it this march. what do you guys think? as a senior in high school i think i will make it with out music and just natural sounds of the racket and ball with the crowd behind it

Yea that sounds great, I love that video so it would be great if you made another. (althought it was the music that made me watch it repeatedly, well the first song at least).

saram
02-25-2009, 07:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xUGnH6MSo&feature=related
my personal favorite :)

That shot was sick!

tudwell
02-25-2009, 07:30 PM
I think I found one that fits all of your criteria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZ-ltWuS9I
This is the winner. Seriously, so many of those balls looked completely behind him, yet he got them back. Guessed right on both of those overheads. And of course the diving drop volley winner. Show me a better point.

crazylevity
02-26-2009, 02:42 AM
This is the winner. Seriously, so many of those balls looked completely behind him, yet he got them back. Guessed right on both of those overheads. And of course the diving drop volley winner. Show me a better point.

Seriously, Edberg has a beautiful game. But man he could defend. RESPECT.

roddickfan90
02-26-2009, 03:14 AM
roddicks 155mph serve...nice point

christos_liaskos
02-26-2009, 04:36 AM
roddicks 155mph serve...nice point

lol.... whilst we cant really argue against the fact the human limits are being pushed with that point, since it is the hardest serve ever hit lol, but it only involved one player and wasnt much of a battling point haha... good try though :)

pre4cmj
02-26-2009, 06:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7t5W6SDuEs

Run.
02-26-2009, 10:37 AM
I wouldn't say the greatest but pretty d a m n good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVBhXTyd4Yw

tahiti
02-26-2009, 11:28 AM
I think I found one that fits all of your criteria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZ-ltWuS9I

:shock: that was just incredible!!!!!!!!