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Kirko
03-06-2009, 05:58 PM
one of the very best rackets ever made period ! the midsize hiting area played so much bigger than it looked. funny I always associated metal rackets with serve & volley players for yrs. until I saw the Mag. 90 in action the guy who took over Pancho Gonzalez's job at Ceasar's Palace (pat du pre) used it and I soon got a couple. what a simple , yet beautifully playing frame !

plasma
03-06-2009, 09:08 PM
when I was a little four year old fallafel; Plasma was released onto the Ramat Aviv University tennis Courts, "O.K., the teacher said, everyday, "go get racquets" . The other kids would walk but I would run, knowing that amongst the wooden racquets, in the basket, lay a single mid, a prince magnesium pro 90, a racquet with really nice feel... although I could barely lift it; once in my hands not even the adults could pry it from me...little falaffel plasma decided at age four that the mag pro felt better than wood racquets...
http://i44.tinypic.com/30crltw.jpg
now that plasma is older and has hummus in his falaffels, he still loves the Magnesium Pro 90. You never like to tell about your first lover, it's always so special, sad, tender, but Maggie was the best I tell ya! her strings are tight as ever.....I think I love her...
http://i40.tinypic.com/5ww2nm.jpg
other plasma favorites before age 10 included the head xrc, prince Jr., snauwaert mid, head edge, tad davis professional, yonex glafflex (black), and donnay alwood.

jmjmkim
03-06-2009, 09:20 PM
I had this in the 110. In those days that I played with it, I tried to copy Conners and McEnroe by smashing the racket each time I had a bad shot.

My frame got so warped and distorted, that it became unplayable.

plasma
03-06-2009, 09:39 PM
these are sooooo vulnerable to warping from that type of impact...it's almost guaranteed.

Rorsach
03-06-2009, 11:25 PM
I've only managed to get my hands on 2 110's. But for some reason they're differently shaped, one has the normal prince head-shape and the other is a teardrop shape. They also have different stickers.

I keep asking myself if the teardrop shaped one is warped, or does it have the old shape, like an old graphite 110?

Deuce
03-07-2009, 01:48 AM
Out of all the racquets I've ever played with, the Mag Pro 90 is probably the one I would choose if I could have only one model of racquet for the rest of my playing days.

As Kirko mentioned, it was so simple - yet so beautiful.

I played with them from about 1988 to 1992.
Don't need any wimpy bumper on these things...

From '92 to '96, I hardly played, due to various circumstances. When I got back to playing regularly in '96, I saw that the old Mags (I had 2, I believe) were not in playable shape.
So I set out to find some. The internet not being a part of my life at that point, my resources were rather limited.
I found none.
Desperate, I called Tennis Australia to try to get a hold of Pat Cash, whom I hoped had some Mags left in his basement or something.
I spoke with the president of Tennis Australia, who obviously knew Cash well... a couple of phone calls later, the same day, the president phoned me back, saying that Cash is on vacation on some island, has no Mags left, but recommends the Prestige Classic 600 to fill the void.
So no luck there.

At that point, I grabbed a bunch of demos from various places, and from the bunch, decided that the Pro Staff 6.0 85 was the best among them.
I played with the Pro Staff for a year or so... but still longed for the Mags.
It was right about at that time that I noticed Cedric Pioline had dropped the Mags in favour of the Head Radical.

So I called Tennis France...

Got a hold of Pioline's agent... and over the summer of 1997, talked with his agent several times - including calling her at Wimbledon a few times.
Unfortunately for me, that was the year that Pioline reached the Wimbledon Final (yes - in singles)... and his agent kept telling me that she would ask him if he has any Mags left, but she wanted to wait until he was out of the tournament.
And he kept winning...

So I only got my answer 2 weeks later - the answer was that - yes, he has a few Mags left... and, yes, he will give them to me. Four of them. I only had to pay for shipping.
(Unfortunately, she decided to ship them 2nd day air from France - over $100.)

So I now had 4 of Pioline's unique white Mag Pro 90s... complete with red clay imbedded in the grommets.

Sadly, the years of pro play - and practice - showed on the frames. There were hairline cracks in a couple... and they were generally in a quite used condition.
I had new handles put on a couple, and I played with them for the rest of the summer - then sporadically for another 2 years or so... but it was clear that they were not in their prime, and not really in any better condition than my original ones.

I still love the Mag Pro 90. Haven't hit with one in a few years, though. I don't like teasing myself. It would be like kissing a former love as she passes through town, knowing that the wonderful feeling is but fleeting...

Kirko
03-07-2009, 03:33 AM
nice to know I wasn't the only one who liked the mag.-90. my top frames ever the mag. 90 & ultra II . gotta say the Sampras Staff has loads of "old school" feel and heft. maybe we are finally leaving the "dark ages" of rackets eg. so light they feel like toys & donothing to make or insure you will be a decent player.

pshulam
03-07-2009, 07:06 AM
I still love the Mag Pro 90. Haven't hit with one in a few years, though. I don't like teasing myself. It would be like kissing a former love as she passes through town, knowing that the wonderful feeling is but fleeting...
Just curious - what are the rackets do you use today?

Virginia
03-07-2009, 12:11 PM
Nice story, Deuce - even though they may not be usable, it must give you a good feeling to own some racquets actually used by a top Pro (and Wimbledon finalist). We should all be so lucky!

And top marks for being so resourceful in searching them out! :)

plasma
03-07-2009, 01:57 PM
that story was historically unique, I'd love to see pics. I'd like to ask the current wimbledon finalist for their equipment and se what theyd say, indeed, tennis pros in the 80's and 90's were very humble and down to earth. Not everybody was a celebrity stalker like they are now, tops pros were quite approachable back then....thanks for the interesting and amazing story of the authentic world before ebaay!!! pics pls

Kirko
03-07-2009, 03:12 PM
Nice story, Deuce - even though they may not be usable, it must give you a good feeling to own some racquets actually used by a top Pro (and Wimbledon finalist). We should all be so lucky!

And top marks for being so resourceful in searching them out! :)

a Great Story and I never get tired of it. Deuce is one of THE guys who really know tennis here.

Capt. Willie
03-07-2009, 08:08 PM
I'm just trying to figure out what the hell a "fallafel" is. :confused:

Bud
03-07-2009, 08:46 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falafel


http://mideastfood.about.com/b/a/falafel.jpg

It's yummy, BTW :)

Deuce
03-07-2009, 09:17 PM
Just curious - what are the rackets do you use today?
^ Mostly Prestige Classic 600s.
But I also have 2 iPrestige Mids, a Pro Tour 280, a Graphite Edge (or Graphite Edge 2), an XRC, and a Kramer Pro STaff (wood) in my bag at most times.

Glad you guys - and gal - liked the story.

Here's a photo I just took after digging one out of the closet.
The red around the 'yoke' (throat piece) is a colour coding I added simply to quickly be able to distinguish the frames from each other.

It's not in ready to play shape - that's just an old overgrip that I was using to build up the handle a bit. They came to me with stock Prince 4 5/8 handles that Pioline actually had heat shrink sleeves on - the handles were huge. As I mentioned, I had new handles put on 2 of them.

Anyone ever seen a white Mag Pro before? Pioline's are the only white ones I've ever seen. In North America, they were grey.

http://i40.tinypic.com/208ck0p.jpg

Kirko
03-07-2009, 09:33 PM
^ Mostly Prestige Classic 600s.
But I also have 2 iPrestige Mids, a Pro Tour 280, a Graphite Edge (or Graphite Edge 2), an XRC, and a Kramer Pro STaff (wood) in my bag at most times.

Glad you guys - and gal - liked the story.

Here's a photo I just took after digging one out of the closet.
The red around the 'yoke' (throat piece) is a colour coding I added simply to quickly be able to distinguish the frames from each other.

It's not in ready to play shape - that's just an old overgrip that I was using to build up the handle a bit. They came to me with stock Prince 4 5/8 handles that Pioline actually had heat shrink sleeves on - the handles were huge. As I mentioned, I had new handles put on 2 of them.

Anyone ever seen a white Mag Pro before? Pioline's are the only white ones I've ever seen. In North America, they were grey.

http://i40.tinypic.com/208ck0p.jpg

Deuce never seen a Mag. Pro (white) except when Pioline used them, that frame of yours has seen some action!!! Thanks for sharing !!!!!!!!!!

pianotennis
03-08-2009, 04:59 AM
^ Mostly Prestige Classic 600s.
But I also have 2 iPrestige Mids, a Pro Tour 280, a Graphite Edge (or Graphite Edge 2), an XRC, and a Kramer Pro STaff (wood) in my bag at most times.

Glad you guys - and gal - liked the story.

Here's a photo I just took after digging one out of the closet.
The red around the 'yoke' (throat piece) is a colour coding I added simply to quickly be able to distinguish the frames from each other.

It's not in ready to play shape - that's just an old overgrip that I was using to build up the handle a bit. They came to me with stock Prince 4 5/8 handles that Pioline actually had heat shrink sleeves on - the handles were huge. As I mentioned, I had new handles put on 2 of them.

Anyone ever seen a white Mag Pro before? Pioline's are the only white ones I've ever seen. In North America, they were grey.

http://i40.tinypic.com/208ck0p.jpg


Great photo! I have never seen a white one. Thanks a lot for sharing the photo and story.

Mine is the ordinary grey one. Several months ago I found it in my closet, didn't with it for quite a long long time. Strung it up, played a few sets with it, then again it came back to it's lonely place in my closet. Although it's a wonderful racquet with absolutely amazing control and feel, but I'm just so used to my Max 200g that I just couldn't find a place in my ordinary play for Mag 90. It's still in mint condition with very few scratches.

Deuce, I noticed my racquet is a bit rounder in shape than Piolin's racquet in the pic. Is it my illusion or Piolin's racquet is out of shape from playing and stringing?

here is my racquet:
http://echopic.com/590t/edit/593619e872ac7d87590951fbf250f322

jbleiman
03-08-2009, 06:28 AM
everyone talks about the 90....how does the 110 compare

Deuce
03-08-2009, 04:15 PM
Mine is the ordinary grey one. Several months ago I found it in my closet, didn't with it for quite a long long time. Strung it up, played a few sets with it, then again it came back to it's lonely place in my closet. Although it's a wonderful racquet with absolutely amazing control and feel, but I'm just so used to my Max 200g that I just couldn't find a place in my ordinary play for Mag 90. It's still in mint condition with very few scratches.
I guess it's forgivable to leave the Mag aside for the Max 200G...
but if you'd have written that you left the Mag aside for a modern racquet, I'd have been all over you!

Deuce, I noticed my racquet is a bit rounder in shape than Piolin's racquet in the pic. Is it my illusion or Piolin's racquet is out of shape from playing and stringing?

Pioline's 4 racquets came in 4 slightly different shapes...
The Mags were known to alter their shape fairly easily from the combination of stringing and playing.

By the way - I don't know if others can see your racquet, but I'm just getting the red 'x'.

Another little Mag story...
About 5 or 6 years ago, I was at a pro tournament, and I saw someone on a practice court holding a Mag 90 off in the distance... about 250 feet away from me.
So I ran over there (literally), and saw that it was Larry Stefanki, who was coaching Tim Henman at the time.
I got there just as they were coming off the court.

As Henman was signing autographs, I approached Stefanki, saying "These are wonderful, aren't they?"
He said "Oh, yeah. Great racquet. They don't make 'em like this anymore."
I asked him how many he has.
He said "I've got about 5 back home - but all of them except one are 'spooned'."
By "spooned" he meant bent out of shape.

So we talked about the Mag for a few more minutes as Henman signed autographs...
It was nice to see that, about 15 years after its release on the market, and among all sorts of 'high technology' frames, a former pro still realized the simple and genuine magic of this wonderful wand.

tandayu
03-08-2009, 04:30 PM
Is it really composed of magnesium or has partial magnesium in the mix?

matchmaker
03-08-2009, 05:22 PM
Great stories Deuce.

Kirko
03-08-2009, 05:53 PM
I guess it's forgivable to leave the Mag aside for the Max 200G...
but if you'd have written that you left the Mag aside for a modern racquet, I'd have been all over you!


Pioline's 4 racquets came in 4 slightly different shapes...
The Mags were known to alter their shape fairly easily from the combination of stringing and playing.

By the way - I don't know if others can see your racquet, but I'm just getting the red 'x'.

Another little Mag story...
About 5 or 6 years ago, I was at a pro tournament, and I saw someone on a practice court holding a Mag 90 off in the distance... about 250 feet away from me.
So I ran over there (literally), and saw that it was Larry Stefanki, who was coaching Tim Henman at the time.
I got there just as they were coming off the court.

As Henman was signing autographs, I approached Stefanki, saying "These are wonderful, aren't they?"
He said "Oh, yeah. Great racquet. They don't make 'em like this anymore."
I asked him how many he has.
He said "I've got about 5 back home - but all of them except one are 'spooned'."
By "spooned" he meant bent out of shape.

So we talked about the Mag for a few more minutes as Henman signed autographs...
It was nice to see that, about 15 years after its release on the market, and among all sorts of 'high technology' frames, a former pro still realized the simple and genuine magic of this wonderful wand.

he used it on the senior tour played doubles with Borg using it. I always thought this frame would last (in production) for a very long time. so easy to make and kinda cheap to buy and yer deliver great playing qualities. oh well.

pianotennis
03-08-2009, 07:10 PM
I guess it's forgivable to leave the Mag aside for the Max 200G...


Mag 90 is a wonderful racquet for sure, but it's just not the best racquet for my game. I hit flat, S&V and go to net in every possible occasions, Max 200g is the ideal racquet for me. Although Mag 90 is great in every aspects, but personally I think in volley it's not as goog as Max 200G. Max 200g is the best racquet in volley that I have ever hit with.


but if you'd have written that you left the Mag aside for a modern racquet, I'd have been all over you!


In fact the "most modern" racquet that I have is a Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 classic, which I bought in 1993 or 1994. Trust me, it would be the very last idea for me to leave all my old wonderful racquets for any modern racquets.


By the way - I don't know if others can see your racquet, but I'm just getting the red 'x'.


Sorry I don't know why, I used the yellow icon "insert image" and pasted the link, somehow it just didn't show up. Here is the direct link to the pic.

http://echopic.com/590t/edit/593619e872ac7d87590951fbf250f322

Virginia
03-08-2009, 07:14 PM
Talking of being cheap to buy, here are the prices from an old Prince catalogue I have - don't know the date though:

Prince Pro - $290
Prince Magnesiun Pro - $320
Prince Woodie - $450
Prince Precision Graphite - $400

The flex patterns were listed as follows - from very firm to flexible:

Boron
Graphite
Magnesiun Pro
Graphite Comp
Precision Graphite
Pro
Woodie
Classic

jmjmkim
03-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Those are golf equipment prices...... wow

aussie
03-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Talking of being cheap to buy, here are the prices from an old Prince catalogue I have - don't know the date though:

Prince Pro - $290
Prince Magnesiun Pro - $320
Prince Woodie - $450
Prince Precision Graphite - $400

The flex patterns were listed as follows - from very firm to flexible:

Boron
Graphite
Magnesiun Pro
Graphite Comp
Precision Graphite
Pro
Woodie
Classic

Virginnia, they must be NZD prices because I can recall buying my Mag Pro in Brisbane for no more than about AUD $150 in about 1988. As all others attest, a great stick with wonderful control characteristics. I still have a Prince sales brochure extolling the virtues of the Prince line at the time including the Mag Pro. If my memory serves me, I believe Pat Cash won Wimbledon in !987 (over Lendl) using one.

jimbo333
03-08-2009, 08:05 PM
That's what I was about to say:)

Virginia
03-08-2009, 08:06 PM
Yes of course, aussie, you're right - they are NZ prices - pretty hefty ones too - they always seemed to load them up by the time they found their way here. Still do, in fact!

Virginia
12-16-2009, 10:03 AM
He can't answer you - he's banned. :(

Virginia
12-17-2009, 09:07 AM
No, I'm sorry - I have just the one. Welcome to the T-W forums by the way. :)

diredesire
10-17-2010, 11:08 AM
reini0100, no soliciting outside of FS/T. If you're interested in a frame, you can ask for an e-mail address, and/or post in the wanted section.

Kirko
10-17-2010, 05:42 PM
He can't answer you - he's banned. :(

I was wondering where he was. I liked him a lot and he goes way back to the beginning of this "board". he knew quite a bit about tennis.

Virginia
10-18-2010, 11:11 AM
Yes, he did know a lot. He rubbed a few people up the wrong way from time to time - maybe he overstepped the mark.

roundiesee
10-19-2010, 08:03 PM
Actually a lot of nice posters were banned for one reason or another; thanks for digging up this old thread to bring back the memories :) If you're reading this, take care Deuce and best regards! And you too plasma!:)

Specialjustin
07-14-2012, 07:55 AM
The Mag pro 90 was my first 'proper' racket. Even at age 10 i knew it was looking cheap, with all the rich kids running around with shiny graphite numbers. But, just hitting with it felt 'right' straight away. I managed to get hold of 110 recently and it's completely different and unfortunately, not in a good way (for me).

If anyone is feeling the burden of racket hoarding, i'm currently looking for a mag 90 and would love to lighten the load!

elamarrj
07-14-2012, 09:32 PM
I'm pretty sure I have a mag 90 somewhere I will look for it this week and post a photo when i find it

diredesire
07-22-2012, 08:43 PM
no soliciting outside FS/T.

SFrazeur
07-23-2012, 08:51 AM
no soliciting outside FS/T.

Not that it would matter but I did notice that this forum section lacks the "Absolutely no for sale or trade posts in this forum" sticky.

-SF

diredesire
07-23-2012, 09:23 AM
Not that it would matter but I did notice that this forum section lacks the "Absolutely no for sale or trade posts in this forum" sticky.

-SF

Will copy over, thanks SF.