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Virginia
03-07-2009, 01:16 PM
Looking at the comparative RDC stats:

Dunlop Max 200G 375/13.23/43/364
Dunlop Max 200G Pro 387/13.65/32/349

It looks like the Pro version, with lower flex and lower swing weight might be better for me, as a female, with elbow problems. The Pro certainly feels lighter to swing, in spite of its actual weight of 387 grammes. Weight over the years hasn't been a problem for me and I'm used to 12+ ounce racquets, but maybe I should be a little more careful now, with advancing years and elbow problems starting to show up.

I have to admit I'm pretty clueless about all this, so would welcome expert advice from you 200G gurus.

As an alternative, it seems the Yonex RX-28 and RX-32 sticks (both of which I have) might be a possibility, though with their traditional head shape, is it possible the sweet spot area would be smaller?

I've read that the RX-32 is very easy on the arm and the RX-28 with RDC stats of 302/10.65/44/284, being quite a bit lighter, might also be a good candidate.

Opinions and advice please. :)

plasma
03-07-2009, 02:27 PM
200g's are not neccisarily soft and friendly. They look pudgy and innocent, but they are powerful professional level t'ai chi masters. As hard as you push them, they push back equally. If you hit the ball too hard your shot will fail. The 200g gives you soooo much feedback and counseling on failed shots its profound. If you are late, using part of the body and not the center, trying to do too much, a screen on the Max 200g pops up and actually tells you the precise error (almost).
200g's are champions. They are extremely strong, but not ultra 2 gymrat type bench 250 no warm-up strong, they are more like the old tiny asian guy in my neighborhood who sells Samurai swords, he looks almost crippled the way he waddles, yet he needed no help when 5 big guys tried to mug him a few years ago, they were on their way to the hospital before anyone could help (true story). Don't take the 200g lightly, it's a serious pro tool that might be too much for someone who is injured. Virginia, have you tried the R22, the kneissls or Donnay? I think those might be easier on the arm than the 200g. I love the 200g but it's an innocent.
It is at once childlike, spontaneous, briliant, endomorphic horselike, intelligent, complex, serene, biblical, withdrawn and gracefully clubbish and primative, hearty, strong, well mannered, popular, mellow and well liked racquet
Havent tried the yonex but guessing those aren't soft either, although being lighter and having less mass might transmit less shock to your arm...
http://i43.tinypic.com/140aq05.jpg

tailofdog
03-07-2009, 02:57 PM
I just picked up a Slanger S C 650 that weighs 12.8 oz yet swings ligther than my 6.1 classic 12.3 oz
I am playing with my Jenro (GRAPHITE KEVLAR) which is their best model with a weight of 12.07 oz. The Jenro wins hads down.
I would love to get the specs on the JENRO to be able to compare to other racquets i might want to play with

Virginia
03-07-2009, 03:27 PM
plasma, I've recovered from the injury, but I just don't want it to recur, so that's why I'm looking to change my racquet. It's like the gypsy's warning - I need to look to the future, if I want to continue playing for the next 20-25 years.

I know the 200G isn't the easiest frame to play well with - but my outing the other day with it, produced NO soreness the next day and it felt soft as butter. One swallow doesn't make a summer though, so that's why I'm also examining other options.

Having three versions, I also need expert advice as mentioned in my opening post.

pshulam
03-07-2009, 04:59 PM
Dunlop Max 200G 375/13.23/43/364
Dunlop Max 200G Pro 387/13.65/32/349

It looks like the Pro version, with lower flex and lower swing weight might be better for me, as a female, with elbow problems.
I am definitely not an expert. Based on the flex rating, the pro version, as you said, is probably better for prevention of tennis elbow. Obviously, the racket is only one part of the equation. The type of string also plays a role. The softer one is better. Natural gut is definitely a good choice. Lower string tension also helps.

My 2 cents worth.

joe sch
03-07-2009, 06:39 PM
I am definitely not an expert. Based on the flex rating, the pro version, as you said, is probably better for prevention of tennis elbow. Obviously, the racket is only one part of the equation. The type of string also plays a role. The softer one is better. Natural gut is definitely a good choice. Lower string tension also helps.

My 2 cents worth.

Very true. Virginia, what string and tension are you playing ? If not natural gut, then go natural, it will be soo much easier on your arm ! Also, try low tensions, these rackets become magical at lower tensions.

Best wishes,
Joe

Kirko
03-07-2009, 06:44 PM
Very true. Virginia, what string and tension are you playing ? If not natural gut, then go natural, it will be soo much easier on your arm ! Also, try low tensions, these rackets become magical at lower tensions.

Best wishes,
Joe

so true ! its a tight pattern also. I would string @ 48 or 50 lbs. with natural gut like Joe suggested. would be very easy on a tender arm or elbow and beyond ; I bet you like it a lot.

Bud
03-07-2009, 06:48 PM
plasma, I've recovered from the injury, but I just don't want it to recur, so that's why I'm looking to change my racquet. It's like the gypsy's warning - I need to look to the future, if I want to continue playing for the next 20-25 years.

I know the 200G isn't the easiest frame to play well with - but my outing the other day with it, produced NO soreness the next day and it felt soft as butter. One swallow doesn't make a summer though, so that's why I'm also examining other options.

Having three versions, I also need expert advice as mentioned in my opening post.

If you find the 200G too heavy, give the PK 5G a look.

Bud
03-07-2009, 06:49 PM
I am definitely not an expert. Based on the flex rating, the pro version, as you said, is probably better for prevention of tennis elbow. Obviously, the racket is only one part of the equation. The type of string also plays a role. The softer one is better. Natural gut is definitely a good choice. Lower string tension also helps.

My 2 cents worth.

Very true. Virginia, what string and tension are you playing ? If not natural gut, then go natural, it will be soo much easier on your arm ! Also, try low tensions, these rackets become magical at lower tensions.

Best wishes,
Joe

Agreed. Even when I change out the crosses on my 5G's with poly... the elbow starts acting up... so strings are at least half of the equation.

If you have any arm problems... go natural gut all the way.

Virginia
03-07-2009, 11:36 PM
Ntural gut isn't an option in Auckland because of the humidity - I don't know of anyone who uses it - other than the odd millionnaire perhaps! My stringer doesn't even stock it any more. The last packet he had he put on one of my wood classics (a beautiful 1930's frame) but warned me not to try hitting with it. Basically it was strung with gut to preserve the "antique" look.

This afternoon, I went out and hit a few balls on the ball machine (probably a hundred or so) with the Max 200G Pro, a couple of the Yonex's mentioned above, a Copper Ace and one of my V-24's.

I had the best results with the 200G Pro, with the Copper Ace a close second. Results as in good strokes with no elbow twinges. Well, none of them gave me twinges, but the Yonex's felt harsh compared with the others, R22 being the best.

The V-24 was nice too, especially for serves, but it didn't feel particularly soft. I don't feel althogether comfortable hitting with such a rare and valuable racquet, even though I have three of them, but might take it out for a spin now and again.

Thanks, everyone, for your input - keep it coming! :)

plasma
03-07-2009, 11:49 PM
I'd like you to flirt more with the scholarly intellectuals, the copper ace is the only one you mentioned, with soft hands of a corporate type, you wanna mess with max 200 g? he drives a pick up truck, he's heavy and reckless, loose and harsh at times. It might be fun at first but you know you'll get hurt in the end, Virginia, stop denying it. Go with the copper ace, think about your future, use your brain and not your heart on this one as much as that hurts, go with the sensetive guy and not the tough guy as much as you are attracted,
your friend,
plasma

Virginia
03-08-2009, 12:20 AM
Ah, but plasma, the Pro is so much more sophisticated than his little brother - he drives a Ferrari, smooth and powerful. I will keep the Copper Ace as his understudy though. :)

plasma
03-08-2009, 01:02 AM
The only version I can use is the original two stripe (it has block letters, two green pinstripes, baby chevrons, and a butter snap crunch)
http://i39.tinypic.com/24y4air.jpg
after the 2 stripe came the green and gold two stripe, followed by the wavy (Xanadu) Max font
http://i42.tinypic.com/116ufex.jpg
the flex of the 200g is macro-cosmic, like a ps 85, ps 6.1 classic or other greats it's hard to move away from

v205
03-08-2009, 04:33 AM
Everytime I see a thread with different Max 200G's versions.. I get more confused. Were they suppose tobe pretty much the same weight (+ - 1 to 2g)? I dunno why I have one that is about 5-6g heavier than my other ones closer to 357 averages. And I can actually feel it swinging heavier too. How does one differentiate the Max 200g and Max 200g Pro versions?

MAX PLY
03-08-2009, 07:48 AM
Once upon a time, I was on Dunlop's list and played exclusively with all of the various incarnations of the 200G from the early 80s on my college team until the mid-90s when I could no longer get a good supply. I still have a few (including 2 virgins) and hit with one ever so often--and yes, they are still very sweet. Despite all of the measurements, I never found a meaningful difference among the different versions. I always stung mine at 47 lbs. with 17 gauge soft synthetic and occasionally, thin gut. Try stringing one in the mid to high 40s with some NXT Tour 18 or comparable string and it will hit like a dream and will comfort your arm. Good luck.

gymrat76
03-08-2009, 08:02 AM
With all due respect, Virginia, I highly doubt if you can swing any of these two 200g bros...unless you got a popeye arm with long reach that I can't see in the pic, or if you arent the shy-from-public sister of navratilova.

I think, a tweener oversize might be a better fit. Thanks.

plasma
03-08-2009, 04:35 PM
navratilover was so fluid she could have played with a 2X4, like muhammed ali's jab Navratilovas athleticiscm, relaxation and grace were legendary!!! even less hitch and more fluidity than sampras, Navratilova was like water, like a finger, pointing at the moon....zen baby, pure zen

Virginia
03-08-2009, 04:42 PM
With all due respect, Virginia, I highly doubt if you can swing any of these two 200g bros...unless you got a popeye arm with long reach that I can't see in the pic, or if you arent the shy-from-public sister of navratilova.

I think, a tweener oversize might be a better fit. Thanks.
Whatever makes you think you are qualified in any way, to judge what I should or should not use?

joe sch
03-08-2009, 04:48 PM
Once upon a time, I was on Dunlop's list and played exclusively with all of the various incarnations of the 200G from the early 80s on my college team until the mid-90s when I could no longer get a good supply. I still have a few (including 2 virgins) and hit with one ever so often--and yes, they are still very sweet. Despite all of the measurements, I never found a meaningful difference among the different versions. I always stung mine at 47 lbs. with 17 gauge soft synthetic and occasionally, thin gut. Try stringing one in the mid to high 40s with some NXT Tour 18 or comparable string and it will hit like a dream and will comfort your arm. Good luck.

Amen, the truth. My only diff from maxply is that I like the thick guage natural gut.

jmjmkim
03-08-2009, 04:54 PM
How do these play?

matchmaker
03-08-2009, 05:20 PM
With all due respect, Virginia, I highly doubt if you can swing any of these two 200g bros...unless you got a popeye arm with long reach that I can't see in the pic, or if you arent the shy-from-public sister of navratilova.

I think, a tweener oversize might be a better fit. Thanks.

Sorry gymrat, I feel this comment is a bit out of line. There is also a latent misogynist tone in it.

Why couldn't a woman play with a 200g. One of the heaviest racquets wielded by a pro was Gabriela Sabatini's, it was heavier than the male pro's racquets.

Tennis is about technique and using the mass from the frame, not about brutish strength.

plasma
03-08-2009, 05:50 PM
feels like a prostaff but more stable, heavier. The flex matches the pace of the shot. It's a very old school feel, if your body, mind, legs, timing and core can do a lot with the ball then it's for you. If you have the modern windsheild wiper wrist slap forhand the 200g will put you in the hospital after 20 minutes as it is suited for a more classical game. 200g's encourage perfect form, early preparation and contunuos strokes.

jimbo333
03-08-2009, 06:22 PM
Right then here we go I don't claim to be an expert, so this will need correcting, but this is all I know, and some of it is probably wrong!!!

I think there are 6 main different versions, but it depends what you call "main", as there are lots of little differences. The main different versions of the MAX200G are:-

1. 1982 - Black Racquet, Green/Gold Chevrons - 2 green stripes (3 different molds, first had tapered beam narrowest at head with round string holes. Second had constant beam with round string holes and third had constant beam with squarish holes (this mold continues until 92 basically unchanged). And I think the 2 round string hole versions were only made in 1982.
2. 1986 - Black Racquet, Green/Gold Chevrons - green/gold stripes - Block letters, and "Graphite Injection" These have John McEnroes signature on side of frame and there is a different version celebrating his win in 1984 Wimbledon/US Open written on side of frame, possibly a US only import frame? (I want one of these so if anyone has one please contact me through my profile)
3. 1988 - Black Racquet, Green/Gold Chevrons - green/gold stripes - Curly letters, and "Grafil Injection" also another version of this was - Green Racquet, Red/White chevrons - red/white stripes, and I've heard other colours were done at this time also? (If anyone has any other colours, please sell me one as I collect them, eerrr obviously I suppose!!!)
4. 1989 - Golden Grand Slam - Numbered Edition
5. 1990 - Gloss Black Racquet, Gold/Turquoise Chevrons
6. 1991 - PRO - Purple Racquet with green writing in completly different style to other MAX200G's. Years could be very slightly wrong (especially versions 5 and 6).

As for PRO versions. There were definitely PRO versions of 2,3,5 and 6(All these were PRO, but there was also a different PRO version 6) as well (and probably for version 1, if anyone has a PRO version with 2 green stripes I'd like one). So for the PRO versions; Version 2 had PRO written on it (this is the one Virginia has). Version 3 had PRO written on Black Racquet and PROII on Green Racquet. 5 had PRO written on it. 6 had PROIII written on it (again looking for one of these, please email through my profile). Again there are probably others.

If I start talking about the grips it's going to get a bit confusing, but the order is Black, Black with little Gold "Dunlop" written around it, then Brown leather "Fairway" and then Black Leather again, then Green leather, and then soft disintegrating grips which have all basically yes disintegrated if not wrapped!! Again I could well be wrong

As for the covers/bags, there's lots of different ones (I have at least 15 different versions).

Feel free to tell me I'm wrong (am sure the knowledgable Vsbabolat will for starters), as I quite possibly am; but look I am trying!!!

jimbo333
03-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Have posted the above here again just for info really, and will give people a chance to correct it (nobody has yet amazingly). Actually this might mean that all this info is correct (I know most of it is):)

The first version (double green stripe) came in 3 weights (Light, Light/Medium and Medium). I think all the other versions from 86 onwards were the same weight, including all the different PRO versions. Having said that I've never weighed any of them, and the last versions (90/91) did seem lighter than the others, and because of different sized grips etc they will vary a bit anyway:):)

gymrat76
03-08-2009, 09:50 PM
Lol I just wanted to give you little hard time, Virginia :) Hopefully you or other classicies here did not take any offense!

Nonetheless, again with all due respect, if you want to win, you are more likely to achieve so with a racquet that "helps" a bit, does not necessarily have to be new school, can be old school and being more OS, does not have to be like a baseball bat the way 200g is, and added power can def. be a good way to go, especially at younger ages. But if opting for living in the glories of the past, the times of woody/new graphite era, and no competition spirit is involved but a never dissolving crush over Mac, by all means go for the 200G.

jimbo333
03-08-2009, 10:01 PM
I think that may have just made it worse:(

Purely because you've just put baseball bat and 200G in the same sentence:)

Virginia
03-08-2009, 11:38 PM
I think that may have just made it worse:(

Purely because you've just put baseball bat and 200G in the same sentence:)
Not purely, jimbo, additionally. Sacrilege indeed, but not surprising, given that this poster clearly doesn't have any idea what he's talking about. :evil:

Bud
03-08-2009, 11:44 PM
I used to play with NG in South Florida and never had an issue with it. The humidity there is also suffocating.

The Armour Pro Gut is also nice and has a coating on it that makes it more durable.

Keep it in mind if the arm starts acting up again ;-)

Virginia
03-09-2009, 12:05 AM
OK, Bud, I'll investigate further - I must say it would be nice to play with gut again - it does have a wonderful feel, there's no doubt about it. :)

gymrat76
03-09-2009, 08:24 AM
I think that may have just made it worse:(

Purely because you've just put baseball bat and 200G in the same sentence:)

Hey I was just trying to smooth things up :lol:

gymrat76
03-09-2009, 08:34 AM
Virginia, can you please investigate further into my racquet suggestion?
I personally think, 200G will be way too light and an unstable choice for your caliber.

Please check my suggestion out. It is actually a mid with 12 mains to satisfy your spin needs. Comes with an o.g fairway grip to give you that old school feel.

I think this stick is a match made in heaven for ya! Whatcha say to this?


http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/2/3/6/2/4/webimg/238903578_o.jpg

jimbo333
03-09-2009, 08:46 AM
Hey I was just trying to smooth things up :lol:

I don't think it worked though mate:(

And nnnnnooooooooo you've just made it worse again!!!!

I think:|

Virginia
03-09-2009, 08:58 PM
My coach has confirmed the 200G Pro is absolutely fine for my game and not to take any notice of anyone who says otherwise - he has seen me play and they haven't. :)

Virginia
03-09-2009, 09:13 PM
And by the way, he has seen (almost) all of my 300+ racquet collection and if he thought any other frame would have suited me better, he'd have said so.

Bud
03-09-2009, 09:56 PM
Virginia, can you please investigate further into my racquet suggestion?
I personally think, 200G will be way too light and an unstable choice for your caliber.

Please check my suggestion out. It is actually a mid with 12 mains to satisfy your spin needs. Comes with an o.g fairway grip to give you that old school feel.

I think this stick is a match made in heaven for ya! Whatcha say to this?


http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/2/3/6/2/4/webimg/238903578_o.jpg

The string pattern on that is almost as open as the Snauwaert Hi-Ten :lol:

jimbo333
03-10-2009, 05:23 AM
Wonder what the swingweight is:)

plasma
03-12-2009, 11:14 PM
Hi Virginia,
square inch headsize is the only relevant stat to me: I find all versions of the 200g except for one totally unplayable and terrible. The version I find playable I happen to love and could gratefully play with forever exclusively (original 2 stripe). The others feel beyond unplayable to me. 2 stripe feels soft and forgiving, balance is perfect. Cosmetically they are all cool, but to me the real 200g is the first version, 2 green pinstripe mini chevron, made in england patend pending...the purple steffi pro version feels so much stiffer, like a taiwan compared to a st. vincent...2 stripe is sooo soft, too mushy to even pick up balls by dribbling them...until a fast ball comes in, it tuns into the perfect david carradine slow/fast tai chi power strike...like ray robinson the 200g transcends it's stats to deliver a power that shakes the universe and tears it from its cellular foundation, producing the sound of a tree falling or an elephant screaming...the universe is injection molded, 84 square inches, 27 inches long, our entire galaxy is not even a grommet!

blue12
03-12-2009, 11:36 PM
Try the aerogel 200 it's the 21st century 200G, plus you can pick them up used for not too much.

tennisee
03-15-2009, 08:20 PM
Hi Virginia - just a suggestion about strings. (I'm in Adelaide South Australia by the way). I use a 320gram 18x20 95in racquet (Vantage) and I used to love nat gut 16g at 58lbs. My coach put me on to luxilon TiMo 17 at low tension (52) and I love it. Great spin! It might be worth trying at even lower tensions as the 200G seems to like them? I had wrist pain and am wary of tennis elbow, but no probs with this; and it lasts forever. I have 3 racquets and just rotate them to keep the tension loss even, then replace strings at the end of the season. - This playing 4-5 days a week too. For me the strings make a big difference wit racquets of similar specs; I'm sure with the right string you can adjust the results from your 200Gs to something you like. Good luck!

Virginia
03-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks, tennisee, I'll give that a try (assuming my stringer keeps that in stock). :)

Bud
03-15-2009, 10:07 PM
Wonder what the swingweight is:)

3000... just a guess :)

Bud
03-15-2009, 10:09 PM
Hi Virginia - just a suggestion about strings. (I'm in Adelaide South Australia by the way). I use a 320gram 18x20 95in racquet (Vantage) and I used to love nat gut 16g at 58lbs. My coach put me on to luxilon TiMo 17 at low tension (52) and I love it. Great spin! It might be worth trying at even lower tensions as the 200G seems to like them? I had wrist pain and am wary of tennis elbow, but no probs with this; and it lasts forever. I have 3 racquets and just rotate them to keep the tension loss even, then replace strings at the end of the season. - This playing 4-5 days a week too. For me the strings make a big difference wit racquets of similar specs; I'm sure with the right string you can adjust the results from your 200Gs to something you like. Good luck!

Thanks, tennisee, I'll give that a try (assuming my stringer keeps that in stock). :)

I'd avoid poly string at all costs, for the sake of your arm.

Virginia
03-16-2009, 01:50 AM
Guys, I know next to nothing about strings, so I always let my stringer guide me. It looks like there are conflicting opinions here, which seems a little strange.

I do believe Mike (my stringer) mostly uses Prince synthetic gut.

Bud
03-16-2009, 04:20 AM
Guys, I know next to nothing about strings, so I always let my stringer guide me. It looks like there are conflicting opinions here, which seems a little strange.

I do believe Mike (my stringer) mostly uses Prince synthetic gut.

This board is full of conflicting opinions :twisted:

The general consensus is to avoid poly strings if you have wrist, elbow or shoulder problems.

plasma
03-16-2009, 09:59 AM
has anyone here ever played with technifibre 515 or 505? they wore out and became unplayable quick but were softer, better and crisper than gut for the month or two that they lasted....do they still make strings that good? does anyone else remember these orgasmic watercress flavored purple colored strings???

tennisee
03-17-2009, 12:38 PM
This board is full of conflicting opinions :twisted:

The general consensus is to avoid poly strings if you have wrist, elbow or shoulder problems.


Yes - this is true. Becoming less true with the newer co-polys (of which TiMo is one) I'm suggesting a thinner co-poly and dropping tension considerably. I was wary of trying this for the reason you suggest but it's been fine for me for a year now.

No big deal, I'm sure Virginia's stringer will suggest something. I probably should have refrained from a string comment in a racquet thread, but arm protection is important to me, and this set up has really improved the way the ball moves for me while still being arm-friendly. (My arm hurts if I so much as look at a harsh set-up!)

I guess I was prompted to comment because I think selecting strings and tensions is as important as selecting a frame; the two really need to work together.

cat6man
03-21-2009, 03:39 PM
Hi Virginia,
square inch headsize is the only relevant stat to me: I find all versions of the 200g except for one totally unplayable and terrible. The version I find playable I happen to love and could gratefully play with forever exclusively (original 2 stripe). The others feel beyond unplayable to me. 2 stripe feels soft and forgiving, balance is perfect. Cosmetically they are all cool, but to me the real 200g is the first version, 2 green pinstripe mini chevron, made in england patend pending...the purple steffi pro version feels so much stiffer, like a taiwan compared to a st. vincent...2 stripe is sooo soft, too mushy to even pick up balls by dribbling them...until a fast ball comes in, it tuns into the perfect david carradine slow/fast tai chi power strike...like ray robinson the 200g transcends it's stats to deliver a power that shakes the universe and tears it from its cellular foundation, producing the sound of a tree falling or an elephant screaming...the universe is injection molded, 84 square inches, 27 inches long, our entire galaxy is not even a grommet!


(first post here)

plasma,

there are 2 of us! i also found the original 200G to be heaven and all the subsequent ones unplayable........why oh why did they do that? i actually tracked down the dunlop factory (i think it was in north carolina?) and talked to someone down there and asked why they had changed the feel of the racquet and that i had loved it..........his reply was that i was one of the only ones who loved it that way and they had too much invested in the mcenroe name to not keep the redesigned racquet with the same name.

question for anyone else who feels the same way about the original 200G.........what current racquets should i demo that have a similar feel to the original (not the later ones) 200G?

when i asked that question about 10 years ago to my (new at the time) local tennis shop, they said 'nothing is similar' to that racquet, but i eventually moved to a volkl c10 classic which i learned to love as well (and which did the exact same thing to me...........all subsequent c10 versions after the classic felt unplayable to me.........am i cursed or is this common?)

plasma
03-22-2009, 06:40 PM
It's ironic, if you're the type to like cosmetics you'd hate the oldest versions as they wear soooo easily, but yes theirs no question, 100% different feel than any other version... no oversized sillicone chevrons, just her original matte baby chevrons.
http://i39.tinypic.com/nldftg.jpg

I like your spirit, when they raped the Prince Graphite Series 90 midplus and remade her I called Prince. I have done that with several manufacturers who stopped making strativarius and started producing hyundais instead...I didn't even have to drop my creds to get respectful and intelligent detailed answers from the$e guys, most conversations would last almost an hour as we shared such deep common interest and knowledge of specs, layups, blueprints, materials, history etc....

max
03-23-2009, 04:49 AM
You know, Virginia, the years I played with the max 200 g, I found that the kind of string never mattered that much (I used mostly synthetic gut).

The real factor going on with racquet feel there is the racquet itself! It's so plush that strings don't account for much, as they do is other frames.

I always liked Gamma Gut 2, Gosen OG Sheep, and Alpha 2000. But regular Prince syn gut's fine.

yuth
03-23-2009, 10:32 AM
I love max200g too. It's good for me, for I can play with various shots.

Here is mine!!!

http://upload.tarad.com/images/635121max1.jpg (http://upload.tarad.com)

http://upload.tarad.com/images/562696max2.jpg (http://upload.tarad.com)

pshulam
03-25-2009, 03:23 PM
The real factor going on with racquet feel there is the racquet itself! It's so plush that strings don't account for much, ..
Are you saying that an inexpensive poly provides the same (or very similar) feel and comfort as a multi-filament or natural gut string?

Bud
05-14-2009, 10:05 PM
Right then here we go I don't claim to be an expert, so this will need correcting, but this is all I know, and some of it is probably wrong!!!

I think there are 6 main different versions, but it depends what you call "main", as there are lots of little differences. The main different versions of the MAX200G are:-

1. 1982 - Black Racquet, Green/Gold Chevrons - 2 green stripes (3 different molds, first had tapered beam narrowest at head with round string holes. Second had constant beam with round string holes and third had constant beam with squarish holes (this mold continues until 92 basically unchanged). And I think the 2 round string hole versions were only made in 1982.
2. 1986 - Black Racquet, Green/Gold Chevrons - green/gold stripes - Block letters, and "Graphite Injection" These have John McEnroes signature on side of frame and there is a different version celebrating his win in 1984 Wimbledon/US Open written on side of frame, possibly a US only import frame? (I want one of these so if anyone has one please contact me through my profile)
3. 1988 - Black Racquet, Green/Gold Chevrons - green/gold stripes - Curly letters, and "Grafil Injection" also another version of this was - Green Racquet, Red/White chevrons - red/white stripes, and I've heard other colours were done at this time also? (If anyone has any other colours, please sell me one as I collect them, eerrr obviously I suppose!!!)
4. 1989 - Golden Grand Slam - Numbered Edition
5. 1990 - Gloss Black Racquet, Gold/Turquoise Chevrons
6. 1991 - PRO - Purple Racquet with green writing in completly different style to other MAX200G's. Years could be very slightly wrong (especially versions 5 and 6).

As for PRO versions. There were definitely PRO versions of 2,3,5 and 6(All these were PRO, but there was also a different PRO version 6) as well (and probably for version 1, if anyone has a PRO version with 2 green stripes I'd like one). So for the PRO versions; Version 2 had PRO written on it (this is the one Virginia has). Version 3 had PRO written on Black Racquet and PROII on Green Racquet. 5 had PRO written on it. 6 had PROIII written on it (again looking for one of these, please email through my profile). Again there are probably others.

If I start talking about the grips it's going to get a bit confusing, but the order is Black, Black with little Gold "Dunlop" written around it, then Brown leather "Fairway" and then Black Leather again, then Green leather, and then soft disintegrating grips which have all basically yes disintegrated if not wrapped!! Again I could well be wrong

As for the covers/bags, there's lots of different ones (I have at least 15 different versions).

Feel free to tell me I'm wrong (am sure the knowledgable Vsbabolat will for starters), as I quite possibly am; but look I am trying!!!

I located my last remaining 200G and it's the version with McEnroe's signature on the side :)

lendlmac
05-17-2012, 09:26 AM
Virginia, so how many do you have now, since the inception of this thread, and do you still use it daily?

I love the Max 200G, it is so plush!

..."The Max 200G with 17ga babolat natural gut strings in it at 55lbs, is in most respects quite crisp too, felt pretty good, because of the amount of feel translated through the racquet frame into oneís hand.

The first thought which springs into oneís head upon striking a ball with a Max 200G is: ďComfortable!Ē Completely plush. No buzz, no ping, no shock, just seamless comfort. It feels like a shock absorber which never seems to hit bottom regardless of the size of the bump. And string dampeners? No need. The material, and the construction of the frame absolutely neutralize all agitations, and without losing any feel for the ball in the process. Incredible, nothing else comes close.

The next notable impression is of the stability of the frame. Some of this is due to the 14oz weight of it, some to the 84 inch head size, some to the rather wide and thick beam construction, and some to the force absorbing qualities of the injection-molded materials used in the mix. All together they combine to make the type of stability capable of turning maniacal top-spin ground strokes into Sundayschool volleys at the net.

And speaking of ground strokes, the Maxís ability to dampen the effects of an opponents heavy top-spin shot pays dividends to its user in two important ways. One, because the frame stabilizes heavy shots so well, it requires less exertion from the player in order to send those shots hurling back at Ďem, with equal if not more ball heaviness, thereby saving precious energy for other aspects of the game such as, mental strategy, running, and bragging (or excuse making) after the match. Two, the sort of stability one finds in a Max 200G coupled with its enhanced feel tends to raise a playerís confidence, ( one is not so concerned with what the opponent will do) which in turn helps produce more assertive type play. Indeed, itís stability virtually demands forward thinking, and aggressive playing tactics. Noticeably more than itís heir apparent.

By anyoneís measure the Max 200G is a shot makerís delight. It absolutely oozes control, and as such, puts a premium on placement rather than gratuitous raw power. But, donít be mislead, deceivingly fast balls can be attained with this thing. Balls that appear to be initially slow coming off the strings carry ultimately deeper and heavier once they clear the net, and invariably almost always skid through upon contact with the court. This raises a predicament for opponents who watch as seemingly lackadaisical shots suddenly reach them with greater impetus than first expected.

Anyone who has ever played against someone with a Max 200G will understand what Iím saying here. Balls that clear the net with little more than an inch to spare donít usually carry to within inches of the baseline, only to then skid right under oneís racquet. At least not with normal racquets anyway, unless the player really gets a good crank on the ball, at which time, you can be reasonably sure of the outcome. Not so with a Max. Idle looking swings are not to be taken lightly, because of this extra carrying effect produced by the racquet. Serves are much the same. Not only can one easily perplex an opponent with the mercurial placement of the serve, but also with the constantly fluctuating speeds, spins, and skids. The ball really does come off the strings differently with a 200G...."
~ by Hunter Pieper

Virginia
05-17-2012, 09:06 PM
Oh, this is an old thread. I have 10 (I think) 200Gs of varying ages and the one I use, around once a week, to improve technique, is a stealth (painted all black) Pro model. Nobody knows it's a 200G, except my stringer who can recognise one of these anywhere, even half hidden in a racquet pocket!

I lost the elbow problems two or more years ago now, since I started playing with Chris racquets.

My main playing racquet is a Chris Competition, but I also play often with a Pro Staff 6.1 (95) and lately also with a Head Youtek Speed Pro (midplus). Three more different racquets, in terms of head shape, would be hard to find.

Chuck Savage
02-19-2014, 06:04 AM
Hi Virginia

With regards to your original thread, the Max 200g remains a beautiful racket to play with, and only those that have played with such a masterpiece will truly understand her qualities.

From my collection of the main models their weight ranges from 346g to a staggering 397g! I feel the teal version (don't like the colour) felt lightest to swing, then again they weighed 355-360g.

The models where weights were similar was the grand slam version between 350-360g a fine masterpice to swing and easy on the arm. Strung at 55lbs with Prince Synthetic gut.

This is my humble opinion and its down to personal preference.

aliasrichmond
02-22-2014, 03:42 AM
As for PRO versions. There were definitely PRO versions of 2,3,5 and 6(All these were PRO, but there was also a different PRO version 6) as well (and probably for version 1, if anyone has a PRO version with 2 green stripes I'd like one). So for the PRO versions; Version 2 had PRO written on it (this is the one Virginia has). Version 3 had PRO written on Black Racquet and PROII on Green Racquet. 5 had PRO written on it. 6 had PROIII written on it (again looking for one of these, please email through my profile). Again there are probably others.


Yes, I have a 200GL PRO, it weighs 335g, does the L mean "Light"?
http://i61.tinypic.com/2z6urno.jpg

Chuck Savage
02-24-2014, 05:18 AM
The GL Pro or L models were about a 1inch smaller than a standard MAx200g.