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$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 06:55 PM
i never like federer, i never root for him and i actually really don't like him. but i know what he was going through.

that being said i feel for the guy. i was just diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday and i will tell you this. federer is the absolute god man for playing the Australian with this. i have never been in this much pain in my life, the sore throat i have is gross as hel. it hurts all day and night. i can barely move and have a headache all day long. they prescribed me vicodin which helps, but im not to into narcotic pain killers as they do a number on my stomach. my point is that if federer did have this all the naysayers shouldn't speak until they experience this disease. its crippling and horrible...i mean my doctor revoked my right to play high school tennis for the season until further notice due to something wrong with my spleen. thats probably one reason federer had to stop playing

Nadal_Freak
03-08-2009, 07:01 PM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 07:10 PM
ok i didnt know that

saram
03-08-2009, 07:12 PM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.

Typical.....:-?

saram
03-08-2009, 07:13 PM
ok i didnt know that

Get well!!!!

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 07:14 PM
im not allowed to play on my schools tennis team my senior year of high school for some enlarged spleen or something. my doctor said there is no definite length of the illness has anyone else had it? if so how long did it last?

icedevil0289
03-08-2009, 07:15 PM
feel better!! I've never had mono but from what you described, it sounds bad. I'm not doctor, but drink a lot fluids.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 07:17 PM
feel better!! I've never had mono but from what you described, it sounds bad. I'm not doctor, but drink a lot fluids.

thanks i suppose ill be spending alot more time on these forums with you guys nowadays:shock:

T1000
03-08-2009, 07:18 PM
Get well man. I had it 2-3years ago and it sucked. I've lost a step or two in my game I'll probably never have again. For Fed and Ancic to come back and play again is just amazing

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 07:23 PM
Get well man. I had it 2-3years ago and it sucked. I've lost a step or two in my game I'll probably never have again. For Fed and Ancic to come back and play again is just amazing

yeah well thats why federer is federer. ancic didn't really come back strongly yet. for the first time i can assimilate with fed...i may have mono but am i catching the federer fan bug:shock: haha

drake
03-08-2009, 07:25 PM
i never like federer, i never root for him and i actually really don't like him. but i know what he was going through.

that being said i feel for the guy. i was just diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday and i will tell you this. federer is the absolute god man for playing the Australian with this. i have never been in this much pain in my life, the sore throat i have is gross as hel. to the point of bleeding and pus filled sores line my tonsils. i can barely move and have a headache all day long. they prescribed me vicodin which helps. my point is that if federer did have this all the naysayers shouldn't speak until they experience this disease. its crippling and horrible...


Thanks but we know what Mono is, you didn't need to go into such detail ...... but get well anyways.

BreakPoint
03-08-2009, 07:25 PM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.
And you know this because you're a medical doctor and have personally examined Federer when he was sick with mono? :roll:

So where did you go to medical school, what was your specialization and residency in, and are you board certified? :oops:

BreakPoint
03-08-2009, 07:27 PM
yeah well thats why federer is federer. ancic didn't really come back strongly yet. for the first time i can assimilate with fed...i may have mono but am i catching the federer fan bug:shock: haha
And you can also say that neither has Federer. He is certainly still not playing as well as he was before he got the mono. :(

Hope you get better soon.

jmjmkim
03-08-2009, 07:28 PM
Life is longer than you think. Take care of your health, for the long run.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 07:31 PM
And you can also say that neither has Federer. He is certainly still not playing as well as he was before he got the mono. :(

Hope you get better soon.

thanks, and touche to your point about federer

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Thanks but we know what Mono is, you didn't need to go into such detail ...... but get well anyways.

haha i guess your right, ill edit. and thanks

Shaolin
03-08-2009, 07:45 PM
haha i guess your right, ill edit. and thanks

No need to edit, Ive never gotten mono, knock on wood, and your description gave me insight into what Fed/Ancic mustve had to deal with. Thanks and get better also.

RoddickAce
03-08-2009, 07:51 PM
I rmbr seeing a "get well card" that said "Don't get well soon" on the front, then when you open it, it says "Get well NOW!". Well, I hope that happens to you!

egn
03-08-2009, 07:56 PM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.

Really. Minor levels of mono are still brutal. Get minor mono watch how miserable you are. Minor mono usually has your life put on hold for usually about 6 weeks. 6 weeks of doing nothing as an athlete hurts you a lot as you have to then get back into shape and get back into routiene. So even if his mono was "minor" it still did a good enough damage to his year. It is not just about the sickness it is about the recovery. For an average person "minor" mono which is still very unfriendly keeps you limited for 6 weeks but once it is gone most of us can just get right back into the swing of things, but 6 weeks of not working out, playing tennis and having diet restrictions can hurt a professional athelte. Sure Federer's was not as severe as Ancic's but Fed's did not vanish in 2 days either thats the way you make it sound. There is no such thing as very minor mono. Mono went around my school last year most of the kids who had it had "minor" cases but most missed 2-3 weeks of school and when they came back were still not in good shape.

However I hope you feel better.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-08-2009, 08:07 PM
Really. Minor levels of mono are still brutal. Get minor mono watch how miserable you are. Minor mono usually has your life put on hold for usually about 6 weeks. 6 weeks of doing nothing as an athlete hurts you a lot as you have to then get back into shape and get back into routiene. So even if his mono was "minor" it still did a good enough damage to his year. It is not just about the sickness it is about the recovery. For an average person "minor" mono which is still very unfriendly keeps you limited for 6 weeks but once it is gone most of us can just get right back into the swing of things, but 6 weeks of not working out, playing tennis and having diet restrictions can hurt a professional athelte. Sure Federer's was not as severe as Ancic's but Fed's did not vanish in 2 days either thats the way you make it sound. There is no such thing as very minor mono. Mono went around my school last year most of the kids who had it had "minor" cases but most missed 2-3 weeks of school and when they came back were still not in good shape.


However I hope you feel better.

good points! i don't think it even matters if its minor or severe because even if the mono doesn't effect you that much the danger of rupturing the enlarged spleen is real and can happen during physical exercise

bluescreen
03-08-2009, 08:22 PM
i had what im assuming is referred to as the "minor" type of mono fed had. i was diagnosed last year when a blood test came back confirming it. basically, u always feel tired. u can get a full night's sleep, but the next day it feels like u didnt sleep at all. i had no stamina and would be gasping for air after trying to ride my bike around the block. it took me about 2 months to fully recover and after that i spend several months trying to get my endurance back.

besides the actual illness, the time it takes to get back to your previous fitness level is lengthy and in ways just as detrimental as the actual illness.

Ilove10nis
03-08-2009, 08:23 PM
Thanks but we know what Mono is, you didn't need to go into such detail ...... but get well anyways.

Drake, What's Mano? What happened if you get it???? :???:

Get well soon!!!!

rubberduckies
03-08-2009, 08:38 PM
good points! i don't think it even matters if its minor or severe because even if the mono doesn't effect you that much the danger of rupturing the enlarged spleen is real and can happen during physical exercise

That's why so many people still question whether Fed ever actually had mono. Pro athlete or not, nobody can just play through a bout of mono. They would not have let him play through his mono. Don't let these *******s fool you. Ancic knows what you're going through. Federer does not. Fed had some virus before the Australian Open. He was fine but after he lost to Djokovic, with whom he has some personal problems, he claimed he had mono to diminish Djokovic's victory. Look up his interview following the 2009 AO final to see the lengths Fed will go to make excuses and discredit his opponents. He was later embarrassed for having said that, but it was too late. He was entangled in his own net of lies, so he kept saying that he was over his illness, wanting people to just forget he had ever said those words. Many in the media were wise to the whole plan and wanted to let Fed just move on past his transgressions, but some simply could not handle the idea of other players actually beating Fed fair and square. The Jim Courier's and Peter Bodo's continued to peddle the mystery mono story, much to the chagrin of true mono victims everywhere.

veroniquem
03-08-2009, 09:25 PM
That's why so many people still question whether Fed ever actually had mono. Pro athlete or not, nobody can just play through a bout of mono. They would not have let him play through his mono. Don't let these *******s fool you. Ancic knows what you're going through. Federer does not. Fed had some virus before the Australian Open. He was fine but after he lost to Djokovic, with whom he has some personal problems, he claimed he had mono to diminish Djokovic's victory. Look up his interview following the 2009 AO final to see the lengths Fed will go to make excuses and discredit his opponents. He was later embarrassed for having said that, but it was too late. He was entangled in his own net of lies, so he kept saying that he was over his illness, wanting people to just forget he had ever said those words. Many in the media were wise to the whole plan and wanted to let Fed just move on past his transgressions, but some simply could not handle the idea of other players actually beating Fed fair and square. The Jim Courier's and Peter Bodo's continued to peddle the mystery mono story, much to the chagrin of true mono victims everywhere.
My suspicion is that Fed did have a virus that could have been mono but actually wasn't (exactly like what Murray is having) since there was a doubt about the nature of the virus, what ultimately surfaced is "it is mono" derived from a simple "it is not excluded that the virus may have been mono". I know the Fed fans get totally enraged over the issue but noone will ever convince me that Federer could have played the level of tennis he played all year if he had been struggling with the aftermath of mono. Noone, no way.

mandy01
03-08-2009, 09:57 PM
Typical *********s.Everything Fed does has an ulterior motive according to them.
Anyway,Fed made it clear that he had mono at the start of December.If the doctors diagnosed him of having the disease he indeed had it.

NamRanger
03-08-2009, 09:58 PM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.


Because you are a doctor, physicist, and tennis surface specialist, doesn't mean you know everything!

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 12:45 AM
That's why so many people still question whether Fed ever actually had mono. Pro athlete or not, nobody can just play through a bout of mono. They would not have let him play through his mono. Don't let these *******s fool you. Ancic knows what you're going through. Federer does not. Fed had some virus before the Australian Open. He was fine but after he lost to Djokovic, with whom he has some personal problems, he claimed he had mono to diminish Djokovic's victory. Look up his interview following the 2009 AO final to see the lengths Fed will go to make excuses and discredit his opponents. He was later embarrassed for having said that, but it was too late. He was entangled in his own net of lies, so he kept saying that he was over his illness, wanting people to just forget he had ever said those words. Many in the media were wise to the whole plan and wanted to let Fed just move on past his transgressions, but some simply could not handle the idea of other players actually beating Fed fair and square. The Jim Courier's and Peter Bodo's continued to peddle the mystery mono story, much to the chagrin of true mono victims everywhere.
Who's "they"? No one knew that he had mono when he played the Aus Open. The doctors in Australia misdiagnosed him as having food poisoning. It wasn't until several weeks afterwards when he got back to Switzerland that the doctors there correctly diagnosed him as having had mono.

All of this has been documented in many places. But Nadal-***** like you just want to make up stuff to dismiss it.

And, NO, he was NOT fine before he lost to Djokovic. He was sweating profusely even before matches started and he was barely moving his legs. That is NOT "fine" for Federer.

Wake up and smell the coffee!!!

NandoMania
03-09-2009, 01:03 AM
i was just diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday and i will tell you this. federer is the absolute god man for playing the Australian with this.

Which year are you talking about??? Federer did not have mono in 2009 AFAIK.

tahiti
03-09-2009, 01:04 AM
There are a lot of contradictory arguments here. On most other threads everyone agrees that Federer despite losing his no. 1 ranking is still playing remarkably. Got to 3 GS finals and won the USO.

Three "major" losses (apart from some other minor tournaments,) which were to someone who had been no. 2 for almost forever it seemed.

While I might feel for Federer because it's not easy to lose his top ranking, & not yet have his record slams, blaming his performance on mono whilst he did so well is just "wishful thinking."

mandy01
03-09-2009, 01:04 AM
^^ Exactly .Federer didnt know he had mono when played the AO.He was diagnosed after Dubai.And God only knows what excuses he gave after AO final, what web of lies he's caught up in and what sort of embarrasment he feels..* yawn* .Gosh,the amount of ignorance some people have & their audacity to flaunt it is amazing.

NandoMania
03-09-2009, 01:08 AM
Typical *********s.Everything Fed does has an ulterior motive according to them.
Anyway,Fed made it clear that he had mono at the start of December.If the doctors diagnosed him of having the disease he indeed had it.

There's that "*********s" word again! How does someone with 30 posts even come up with such a thing, mandy01??? I never heard about ***********s either before I became a member here. ***********s versus *********s is too "inside baseball" to mean anything to anybody who isn't a member here. What is the point and where did you pick up such language :confused:

mandy01
03-09-2009, 01:10 AM
Tahiti-you're right.Not all of his losses can be blamed on mono.The ones during the start of the year , yes.But neither FO nor Wimbledon were a result of mono. & although its true his training was serverely affected he played well enough esp at Wimbledon.So in all fairness I wouldnt blame all of his losses on mono.

tahiti
03-09-2009, 01:11 AM
^^ Exactly .Federer didnt know he had mono when played the AO.He was diagnosed after Dubai.And God only knows what excuses he gave after AO final, what web of lies he's caught up in and what sort of embarrasment he feels..* yawn* .Gosh,the amount of ignorance some people have & their audacity to flaunt it is amazing.

Yes, and the amount of insults you throw around should win a Nobel prize.:)

mandy01
03-09-2009, 01:12 AM
There's that "*********s" word again! How does someone with 30 posts even come up with such a thing, mandy01??? I never heard about ***********s either before I became a member here. ***********s versus *********s is too "inside baseball" to mean anything to anybody who isn't a member here. What is the point and where did you pick up such language :confused:Have been reading this forum for ages.:lol:

mandy01
03-09-2009, 01:13 AM
Yes, and the amount of insults you throw around should win a Nobel prize.:) where did I throw insults??? You and I clearly have different definition of 'insults'.

koalakoala
03-09-2009, 01:30 AM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.

Don't be nasty. Money, get well soon, OK?

$$$$mony$$$$
03-09-2009, 04:17 AM
i guess i started a flame war, wasn't my intention but i should have seen this coming as it was totally going to happen.
federer had mono no one in their right mind would lie about that. lol he is a professional athlete not a hypochondriac

KerryJ
03-09-2009, 04:34 AM
i guess i started a flame war, wasn't my intention but i should have seen this coming as it was totally going to happen.
federer had mono no one in their right mind would lie about that. lol he is a professional athlete not a hypochondriac

Don't worry about it. You didn't do anything. No matter what, Federer or Nadal (or both) will always be brought up in a thread, reagardless of subject matter.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=242377 Post #11

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=3193603#post3193603 Post #2

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=247866&page=2 Post #22


In case anyone tries to bash me and is a complete idiot, this is a joke. Get over it.

jeebeesus
03-09-2009, 04:49 AM
im not allowed to play on my schools tennis team my senior year of high school for some enlarged spleen or something. my doctor said there is no definite length of the illness has anyone else had it? if so how long did it last?

hey better take it easy, plenty time for tennis when u get well

hoodjem
03-09-2009, 04:57 AM
Me too. I'm starting to feel sorry for Fed. (Rafa is in his head.)

Please don't bring up the mono excuse again--Fed must have the longest case of mono in history (14 months). It is demeaning to Fed to make shallow excuses after 14 months.

Maybe he has a re-lapse every time he plays Nadal.? "Woops, I got mono again."

abmk
03-09-2009, 05:02 AM
Me too. I'm starting to feel sorry for Fed. (Rafa is in his head.)

Please don't bring up the mono excuse again--Fed must have the longest case of mono in history (14 months). It is demeaning to Fed to make shallow excuses after 14 months.

Maybe he has a re-lapse every time he plays Nadal.? "Woops, I got mono again."

Please read the first post of the thread again.

icedevil0289
03-09-2009, 07:10 AM
My suspicion is that Fed did have a virus that could have been mono but actually wasn't (exactly like what Murray is having) since there was a doubt about the nature of the virus, what ultimately surfaced is "it is mono" derived from a simple "it is not excluded that the virus may have been mono". I know the Fed fans get totally enraged over the issue but noone will ever convince me that Federer could have played the level of tennis he played all year if he had been struggling with the aftermath of mono. Noone, no way.

no one really cares if you believe that fed had mono or not.

NandoMania
03-09-2009, 09:47 AM
i was just diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday and i will tell you this. federer is the absolute god man for playing the Australian with this.

Which year are you talking about??? Federer did not have mono in 2009 AFAIK.

Shaolin
03-09-2009, 10:26 AM
Which year are you talking about??? Federer did not have mono in 2009 AFAIK.



:roll: The year BEFORE 2009 :roll:

doublebreak
03-09-2009, 10:36 AM
i guess i started a flame war, wasn't my intention but i should have seen this coming as it was totally going to happen.
federer had mono no one in their right mind would lie about that. lol he is a professional athlete not a hypochondriac

It's not you. You could have started a thread saying stating that the sky is blue and the result would be the same. I don't know much about mono but definitely know what is like to be injured and not be able to play, hope you get better soon.

tahiti
03-09-2009, 11:42 AM
Hope you feel better soon $$$$$$$

thejoe
03-09-2009, 12:28 PM
The thing that annoys me about Roger's mono is the way people seem to not understand what I mean when I bring it up. People *cough Nadal_Freak cough* will say things like: "Oh, he lost, he must have mono again" which is not what I mean. He had mono, and it greatly disrupted his training, which whether you like it or not, affects you for much of the season. Sure, the symptoms are gone (fatigue etc. you actually carry the virus for three year), but that lack of preparation haunts you for months.

Nadal_Freak
03-09-2009, 01:03 PM
If Fed really had mono, his level would have dropped incredibly. It didn't and he hasn't ever made his level increase that much since then. I think it was just an excuse due to losing Djokovic. A player he dislikes a lot.

Tennis_Bum
03-09-2009, 01:16 PM
There are different levels of mono. Fed got a very minor level of it. You got a more similar effect that Ancic got I'm guessing.

I take it that you are an MD who diagnosed all those three, Ancic, Fed and the original poster. That must be how you know all of this about the severity of Fed's mono.

Tennis_Bum
03-09-2009, 01:19 PM
And you know this because you're a medical doctor and have personally examined Federer when he was sick with mono? :roll:

So where did you go to medical school, what was your specialization and residency in, and are you board certified? :oops:

That's funny. I posted a response before I scrolled down. My view is exactly.

Nadal_Freak
03-09-2009, 01:19 PM
I take it that you are an MD who diagnosed all those three, Ancic, Fed and the original poster. That must be how you know all of this about the severity of Fed's mono.
I've heard people say this many times. You don't need to be an MD to learn things like this. Just be around the forums a lot. It is obvious Ancic got it so much worse then Federer. Like I said, Fed either got a very minor version of mono or he didn't get it. Pick your choice.

federerdomination
03-09-2009, 01:31 PM
If Fed really had mono, his level would have dropped incredibly. It didn't and he hasn't ever made his level increase that much since then. I think it was just an excuse due to losing Djokovic. A player he dislikes a lot.

So now u don't think he had mono?

Have u ever considered the possibility that Fed was good enough to play through it and tough it out?

And as an excuse to losing to Djokovic? No. fed has lost to Djokovic many times before. And it was obvious Fed was struggling physically during his matches at AO 2008

mandy01
03-09-2009, 01:38 PM
The Important thing is-$$$$mony$$$$ you take care and make sure you recover completely .We all wish you a apeedy recovery.

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 02:28 PM
If Fed really had mono, his level would have dropped incredibly. It didn't and he hasn't ever made his level increase that much since then. I think it was just an excuse due to losing Djokovic. A player he dislikes a lot.
Um.....IT DID!!!!

You obviously didn't see his semi against Djokovic nor his earlier match against Tipsarevic! When have you EVER seen Federer sweat like a pig in heat even during the warm-up? He usually doesn't even sweat in the 5th set. And when have you EVER seen Federer move as if he had 20lb. ankle weights on both his legs? Um...like NEVER......until he got mono?? :roll:

Believe me, if Federer never got mono, there's no way he only gets four games off of Nadal in the French final and no way he loses to Nadal in the Wimbledon final. No way.

NamRanger
03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
Um.....IT DID!!!!

You obviously didn't see his semi against Djokovic nor his earlier match against Tipsarevic! When have you EVER seen Federer sweat like a pig in heat even during the warm-up? He usually doesn't even sweat in the 5th set. And when have you EVER seen Federer move as if he had 20lb. ankle weights on both his legs? Um...like NEVER......until he got mono?? :roll:

Believe me, if Federer never got mono, there's no way he only gets four games off of Nadal in the French final and no way he loses to Nadal in the Wimbledon final. No way.


Disagree, Federer with no mono was on the verge of losing to Nadal multiple times in the 5th set at Wimbledon 2007. He had multiple BP chances against him, and was able to save it with clutch serving. Yes, he won that match, but Nadal was good enough to create chances to win.

Nadal_Freak
03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
Um.....IT DID!!!!

You obviously didn't see his semi against Djokovic nor his earlier match against Tipsarevic! When have you EVER seen Federer sweat like a pig in heat even during the warm-up? He usually doesn't even sweat in the 5th set. And when have you EVER seen Federer move as if he had 20lb. ankle weights on both his legs? Um...like NEVER......until he got mono?? :roll:

Believe me, if Federer never got mono, there's no way he only gets four games off of Nadal in the French final and no way he loses to Nadal in the Wimbledon final. No way.
Um Fed has played in 5 setters in slams. He lost against Djokovic in Montreal as well. He beat Blake in straight. True sign of having mono. :rolleyes:

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 02:34 PM
Um Fed has played in 5 setters in slams. He lost against Djokovic in Montreal as well. He beat Blake in straight. True sign of having mono. :rolleyes:
Yeah, and Federer also lost to Roddick in Miami. But what happens EVERY TIME he plays Roddick in a Slam? :roll: :oops:

Nadal_Freak
03-09-2009, 02:37 PM
Yeah, and Federer also lost to Roddick in Miami. But what happens EVERY TIME he plays Roddick in a Slam? :roll: :oops:
Djokovic will beat Fed many more times then Roddick has. Roddick only won twice and both were very close and lucky by Roddick I may say. Djokovic is very close to Fed on hard courts. When Djokovic is on, he can beat Fed in a slam. Djokovic was on the whole Australian Open. He even beat Tsonga. A player that now owns him.

VivalaVida
03-09-2009, 06:01 PM
Djokovic will beat Fed many more times then Roddick has. Roddick only won twice and both were very close and lucky by Roddick I may say. Djokovic is very close to Fed on hard courts. When Djokovic is on, he can beat Fed in a slam. Djokovic was on the whole Australian Open. He even beat Tsonga. A player that now owns him.
Sike, federer took djokovic to the woodshed at the US open when all the haters were saying "djokovic in straights or 4" look what happened. Also, Tsonga has improved tremendously and will own djokovic at the GS's really soon. Tsonga> Djokovic IMO. you heard it hear first!

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Um.....IT DID!!!!

You obviously didn't see his semi against Djokovic nor his earlier match against Tipsarevic! When have you EVER seen Federer sweat like a pig in heat even during the warm-up? He usually doesn't even sweat in the 5th set. And when have you EVER seen Federer move as if he had 20lb. ankle weights on both his legs? Um...like NEVER......until he got mono?? :roll:

Believe me, if Federer never got mono, there's no way he only gets four games off of Nadal in the French final and no way he loses to Nadal in the Wimbledon final. No way.
And no way he loses to Nadal in the AO final, oops sorry, that was not in 2008 :roll:

Nadal_Freak
03-09-2009, 06:37 PM
And no way he loses to Nadal in the AO final, oops sorry, that was not in 2008 :roll:
Haha owned.

klementine79
03-09-2009, 06:37 PM
I really don't understand why all the hate for federer... probably will end up being the best player in history-- he loves the game-- is quite humble-- respectable and passionate.

The same thing happened to Sampras-- everyone was complaining that he was too modest-- did not seem enthused or appreciative of his position or fans.

I would love to see the average person deal with being the #1 player in the world for as long as sampras and federer have been.

The lack of privacy, constant traveling, interviews, promotions, tournaments, advertisements, training-- the business aspect alone would be a mental juggling act-- let alone defending the title under building pressure and stress.

I hope all is well for nadal with his current stretch-- but if he starts having the same tendencies as sampras and federer had after being #1 for over two years-- I don't want to hear any complaints.

If, in three years, nadal is still #1, and gives an 'injury' excuse or 'sickness' ploy to get away from the madness-- to spend time with his girlfriend, wife, family, parents, friends or just train in privacy-- and uses that time to feel like a normal person again-- to regain and rejuvenate the reasons why he started playing tennis-- to refocus his life, I don't want to hear any hating.

We are truly living in one of the greatest eras for men's tennis-- we should appreciate it more.

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 06:50 PM
Yeah, and Federer also lost to Roddick in Miami. But what happens EVERY TIME he plays Roddick in a Slam? :roll: :oops:
Are you aware that Federer hasn't won a master shield since August 2007? Since then he has played 11 master shields and has lost to a whole bunch of players, not just Roddick. Has it ever occured to you that maybe the state of his health is not the only reason for the losses? (As it was already the trend in the whole year of 2007 that Federer was doing much better in best of 5 matches (slams) than in best of 3?)

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 06:59 PM
^^ Exactly .Federer didnt know he had mono when played the AO.He was diagnosed after Dubai.And God only knows what excuses he gave after AO final, what web of lies he's caught up in and what sort of embarrasment he feels..* yawn* .Gosh,the amount of ignorance some people have & their audacity to flaunt it is amazing.
He was diagnosed before Dubai. He actually released a public statement before Dubai (where he was playing) that 1- he had had mono in the recent past, 2- he was fully recovered and medically cleared to play in competition, so whatever kind of virus it was, it was not a long term one as he's supposed to have played THROUGH the thing at AO (risking making it worse because he didn't know what it was?) and still have been as good as new less than a month later to continue on his regular schedule. Not too threatening a virus I say.

icedevil0289
03-09-2009, 07:07 PM
He was diagnosed before Dubai. He actually released a public statement before Dubai (where he was playing) that 1- he had had mono in the recent past, 2- he was fully recovered and medically cleared to play in competition, so whatever kind of virus it was, it was not a long term one as he's supposed to have played THROUGH the thing at AO (risking making it worse because he didn't know what it was?) and still have been as good as new less than a month later to continue on his regular schedule. Not too threatening a virus I say.

Unless you have firsthand knoweledge of what fed really had or didn't have or you're his doctor, you don't know ****. We can all assume things forever, but we really don't know everything about fed and his mono. With that being said, I think the mono mostly affected his practice and the lack of pratice can go on to affect other things as well. I definitely disagree that mono was the reason fed lost to nadal at french open and wimbledon. People should give nadal some credit for those wins. Anyways, by that time, I think even he said he was fully recovered and even said in interviews later that it had nothing to do with his losses.

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 07:21 PM
Unless you have firsthand knoweledge of what fed really had or didn't have or you're his doctor, you don't know ****. We can all assume things forever, but we really don't know everything about fed and his mono. With that being said, I think the mono mostly affected his practice and the lack of pratice can go on to affect other things as well. I definitely disagree that mono was the reason fed lost to nadal at french open and wimbledon. People should give nadal some credit for those wins. Anyways, by that time, I think even he said he was fully recovered and even said in interviews later that it had nothing to do with his losses.
You're right I don't really know. I just don't see what he had as a long term incapacitating thing like the kind of mono I've seen, it doesn't mean it was nothing either but at least it wasn't something that forced him to alter his schedule and despite him winning only one slam in 2008, he made a lot of semis and finals that year (4 wins, 4 finals, 3 semis), not bad at all. I also think he played his worst tennis between Wimbledon and USO (not in the first part of the year) and that was more due to the shock of losing Wimbledon than any particular health problem IMO.

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 08:28 PM
Djokovic will beat Fed many more times then Roddick has. Roddick only won twice and both were very close and lucky by Roddick I may say. Djokovic is very close to Fed on hard courts. When Djokovic is on, he can beat Fed in a slam. Djokovic was on the whole Australian Open. He even beat Tsonga. A player that now owns him.
You mean like in the '08 US Open semis? :oops: LOL

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 08:32 PM
I've heard people say this many times. You don't need to be an MD to learn things like this. Just be around the forums a lot. It is obvious Ancic got it so much worse then Federer. Like I said, Fed either got a very minor version of mono or he didn't get it. Pick your choice.
And you know this because you were in the bathroom with Ancic when he was puking his brains out and crapping his guts out?

How about Federer is a much better physical specimen and far mentally tougher than Ancic, and thus, he's able to guts it out better and play through the mono a bit better?

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 08:40 PM
And no way he loses to Nadal in the AO final, oops sorry, that was not in 2008 :roll:
Well, now we know why, don't we? Federer still hasn't fully recovered from the back injury he suffered towards the end of last year. It was VERY evident in his poor serving in the final. The first thing that goes when you have a back injury is your serve since you can't bend nor move normally and you can't reach out and stretch your arm over your head.

It's been statistically proven on this board already that had Federer served at just his normal level, he would have beaten Nadal in 3 or 4 sets.

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Are you aware that Federer hasn't won a master shield since August 2007? Since then he has played 11 master shields and has lost to a whole bunch of players, not just Roddick. Has it ever occured to you that maybe the state of his health is not the only reason for the losses? (As it was already the trend in the whole year of 2007 that Federer was doing much better in best of 5 matches (slams) than in best of 3?)
Hello? Isn't that the point of this thread? Federer had mono in 2008. Remember?

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 08:47 PM
He was diagnosed before Dubai. He actually released a public statement before Dubai (where he was playing) that 1- he had had mono in the recent past, 2- he was fully recovered and medically cleared to play in competition, so whatever kind of virus it was, it was not a long term one as he's supposed to have played THROUGH the thing at AO (risking making it worse because he didn't know what it was?) and still have been as good as new less than a month later to continue on his regular schedule. Not too threatening a virus I say.
Wrong. The press release about him having mono came AFTER he lost to Murray in the 1st round of Dubai. Federer didn't even want to release it to the public but his agent Tony Gosick talked him into it.

mandy01
03-09-2009, 08:54 PM
He was diagnosed before Dubai. He actually released a public statement before Dubai (where he was playing) that 1- he had had mono in the recent past, 2- he was fully recovered and medically cleared to play in competition, so whatever kind of virus it was, it was not a long term one as he's supposed to have played THROUGH the thing at AO (risking making it worse because he didn't know what it was?) and still have been as good as new less than a month later to continue on his regular schedule. Not too threatening a virus I say.Fair enough..But he certainly went through the tests in Dubai -whether it was before or after the tournament,I'm still not sure.Like he himself said, He got it in December and yes, it didnt last all that long.It certainly didnt look to be as serious as Ancic 's.And he played through it-thinking he had food poisoning . I personally thought he looked extremely pale.And while its true he played later on, one could obviously see he wasnt looking very good.Certainly not 'as good as new' IMO..But you're right,it certainly wasnt all that threatening .
His training was however severely affected.His trainer said he spent a lot of time during tourneys to work on his physical fitness as he missed quite a few days of training.An enitre block if I'm not mistaken and he couldnt set things right after Wimbledon either considering the change of schedule.

vtmike
03-09-2009, 08:59 PM
You're right I don't really know. I just don't see what he had as a long term incapacitating thing like the kind of mono I've seen, it doesn't mean it was nothing either but at least it wasn't something that forced him to alter his schedule and despite him winning only one slam in 2008, he made a lot of semis and finals that year (4 wins, 4 finals, 3 semis), not bad at all. I also think he played his worst tennis between Wimbledon and USO (not in the first part of the year) and that was more due to the shock of losing Wimbledon than any particular health problem IMO.

You are so full of it! When did Fed say he lost all his finals and semis because of mono...The only grandslam affected by mono was the AO...and just using common sense don't you think when a professional player loses atleast a month of training, it will upset his schedule and affect his play? or are you too blind to see that...its all those loses to Nadal and some others that have crippled his confidence (esp. against Nadal!) So indirectly mono was the reason for his decline and it was pretty evident from his results
I honestly think he could've won AO in 4 sets if he had the least bit of confidence...and the back injury obviously didn't help either

mandy01
03-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Wrong. The press release about him having mono came AFTER he lost to Murray in the 1st round of Dubai. Federer didn't even want to release it to the public but his agent Tony Gosick talked him into it. Thanks for confirming that.Even I thought it was after Dubai and yes,he did not want to release it to the public in the first place. But I thank Godsick because I was really worried after his loss against Murray .lol.

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 09:03 PM
Wrong. The press release about him having mono came AFTER he lost to Murray in the 1st round of Dubai. Federer didn't even want to release it to the public but his agent Tony Gosick talked him into it.
It may have been released after the first round but the diagnosis was obviously done before Dubai for the statement to say he was "medically cleared to play", ie at Dubai as well.

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 09:05 PM
Thanks for confirming that.Even I thought it was after Dubai and yes,he did not want to release it to the public in the first place. But I thank Godsick because I was really worried after his loss against Murray .lol.
Yes because otherwise he would never have lost to Murray :roll:

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 09:14 PM
You are so full of it! When did Fed say he lost all his finals and semis because of mono...The only grandslam affected by mono was the AO...and just using common sense don't you think when a professional player loses atleast a month of training, it will upset his schedule and affect his play? or are you too blind to see that...its all those loses to Nadal and some others that have crippled his confidence (esp. against Nadal!) So indirectly mono was the reason for his decline and it was pretty evident from his results
I honestly think he could've won AO in 4 sets if he had the least bit of confidence...and the back injury obviously didn't help either
The only thing common sense tells me in this instance is that Federer didn't change his schedule at all. He played everything he had planned to. As I said before I don't know any kind of mono that would allow you to play a full schedule on the pro tour, going deep in most tournaments or a kind of mono that you would recover from in less than a month (time elapsed between AO and Dubai) when the doctors medically cleared him to play on the tour.
There's nothing more I can say about it really.

veroniquem
03-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Hello? Isn't that the point of this thread? Federer had mono in 2008. Remember?
Then how come mono wasn't affecting him in slams (where matches are even longer and can go to 5 sets), he made 3 slam finals in 2008, one of which he won, remember? Your theory is that the mono affected him in all the masters (including the ones after USO 2008 and the 7 masters he didn't win in 2007) but not the slams? Sorry but that theory doesn't make sense to me.

saram
03-09-2009, 09:21 PM
There's nothing more I can say about it really.

finally.....:shock:

devila
03-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Fedmodest suffered from so much back pain/weakness...and lack of self-belief...and
whatever extra virus he dreamed up, and suddenly plowed down severely inconvenient competition at the French Open, etc.

What a brave man, this Federer. He managed to lose ranking points without
his own fault. How did he
manage to break serve in the Aussie Open? He said, "I had no doubt about beating Berdych."
Roddick should've mocked the hell out of Federer. Djokovic just sucks, in general.:oops::cry:

Dilettante
03-09-2009, 09:27 PM
i never like federer, i never root for him and i actually really don't like him. but i know what he was going through.

that being said i feel for the guy. i was just diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday and i will tell you this. federer is the absolute god man for playing the Australian with this. i have never been in this much pain in my life, the sore throat i have is gross as hel. it hurts all day and night. i can barely move and have a headache all day long. they prescribed me vicodin which helps, but im not to into narcotic pain killers as they do a number on my stomach. my point is that if federer did have this all the naysayers shouldn't speak until they experience this disease. its crippling and horrible...i mean my doctor revoked my right to play high school tennis for the season until further notice due to something wrong with my spleen. thats probably one reason federer had to stop playing

Get well, friend.

mandy01
03-09-2009, 09:33 PM
Yes because otherwise he would never have lost to Murray :roll: Nope not in that sense.He just didnt look all that good to me.I'm not saying he would've beaten Murray otherwise.But his movements didnt look good to me.He seemed quite slow and sluggish thats all.Strange how Nadal fans make the excuse of him being tired at the USO,and its ok( personally I have nothing against giving that as a reason because considering the amount of matches he played,he could've been tired).But when a Fed fan says Roger had mono .. Bam! its downright rubbish!:roll:

saram
03-09-2009, 09:41 PM
Nope not in that sense.He just didnt look all that good to me.I'm not saying he would've beaten Murray otherwise.But his movements didnt look good to me.He seemed quite slow and sluggish thats all.Strange how Nadal fans make the excuse of him being tired at the USO,and its ok( personally I have nothing against giving that as a reason because considering the amount of matches he played,he could've been tired).But when a Fed fan says Roger had mono .. Bam! its downright rubbish!:roll:

You are catching on quickly for a new user....:)

abmk
03-09-2009, 10:02 PM
Um.....IT DID!!!!

You obviously didn't see his semi against Djokovic nor his earlier match against Tipsarevic! When have you EVER seen Federer sweat like a pig in heat even during the warm-up? He usually doesn't even sweat in the 5th set. And when have you EVER seen Federer move as if he had 20lb. ankle weights on both his legs? Um...like NEVER......until he got mono?? :roll:

Believe me, if Federer never got mono, there's no way he only gets four games off of Nadal in the French final and no way he loses to Nadal in the Wimbledon final. No way.

He was sick during AO 2008, but he was fine healthwise during FO and wimby...

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Then how come mono wasn't affecting him in slams (where matches are even longer and can go to 5 sets), he made 3 slam finals in 2008, one of which he won, remember? Your theory is that the mono affected him in all the masters (including the ones after USO 2008 and the 7 masters he didn't win in 2007) but not the slams? Sorry but that theory doesn't make sense to me.
Yes, of course the mono affected him in the Slams. If he didn't have mono, he would have won at least 3 of them in 2008. With mono, he only managed to win 1. So he was only 1/3 as good as he could have been without the mono.

Like Sampras, Federer puts more emphasis on the Slams. He also developed a back problem at the Paris Masters, remember?

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 11:25 PM
He was sick during AO 2008, but he was fine healthwise during FO and wimby...
You don't get over mono that quickly. It can take many, many months to fully recover from it. Ask anyone who has ever had mono.

BreakPoint
03-09-2009, 11:29 PM
The only thing common sense tells me in this instance is that Federer didn't change his schedule at all. He played everything he had planned to. As I said before I don't know any kind of mono that would allow you to play a full schedule on the pro tour, going deep in most tournaments or a kind of mono that you would recover from in less than a month (time elapsed between AO and Dubai) when the doctors medically cleared him to play on the tour.
There's nothing more I can say about it really.
You also don't know anyone as athletically gifted as Federer, either.

abmk
03-10-2009, 12:06 AM
You don't get over mono that quickly. It can take many, many months to fully recover from it. Ask anyone who has ever had mono.

Yes, of course the mono affected him in the Slams. If he didn't have mono, he would have won at least 3 of them in 2008.

Look, I am a federer fan, but I am NOT an excuse machine. He appeared fine healthwise to me @ FO and wimby. He'd have had a pretty good shot at winning AO 2008 had he not been sick, but its not a lock since djoko and tsonga were in top notch form. Mono did affect his 2008 performance, but not as much as you are making it out to be.

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 01:09 AM
Look, I am a federer fan, but I am NOT an excuse machine. He appeared fine healthwise to me @ FO and wimby. He'd have had a pretty good shot at winning AO 2008 had he not been sick, but its not a lock since djoko and tsonga were in top notch form. Mono did affect his 2008 performance, but not as much as you are making it out to be.
At the very top levels of pro tennis, you need to be 100% to win. Being 99% means you lose 9-7 in the 5th set. Being only 98% means you lose in straight sets.

LurkingGod
03-10-2009, 01:31 AM
Well, now we know why, don't we? Federer still hasn't fully recovered from the back injury he suffered towards the end of last year. It was VERY evident in his poor serving in the final. The first thing that goes when you have a back injury is your serve since you can't bend nor move normally and you can't reach out and stretch your arm over your head.

I should learn something from you. When Pete lost to Andre in AO semi-final the year after he got back injury (the one that forced him pull out of USO) I was so angry at Pete that he couldn't beat Andre. I shouldn't have been that angry. I should've told myself that he just hadn't fully recovered from his back injury the year before, that he didn't get beaten fair and square as I thought he did! :neutral::(

But maybe you should learn something from me and accept the fact that your favourite player could be beaten no matter how good he was. A loser is always better than a sore loser, you know..

It's been statistically proven on this board already that had Federer served at just his normal level, he would have beaten Nadal in 3 or 4 sets.

Yep...And France wouldn't have won the 1998 World cup if Ronaldo could score a hat trick..

LurkingGod
03-10-2009, 01:42 AM
At the very top levels of pro tennis, you need to be 100% to win. Being 99% means you lose 9-7 in the 5th set. Being only 98% means you lose in straight sets.

Nadal beat Federer in the final of RG 06 playing with a foot injury. He beat Federer in Dubai after recovering from a career threatening foot injury. And you'd be crazy to think Nadal was 100% during the AO final.

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 01:47 AM
Nadal beat Federer in the final of RG 06 playing with a foot injury. He beat Federer in Dubai after recovering from a career threatening foot injury. And you'd be crazy to think Nadal was 100% during the AO final.
You're right. Nadal was maybe only 90% during the AO final. Lucky for him that Federer was less than 50% that day. :shock:

LurkingGod
03-10-2009, 02:03 AM
Nope not in that sense.He just didnt look all that good to me.I'm not saying he would've beaten Murray otherwise.But his movements didnt look good to me.He seemed quite slow and sluggish thats all.Strange how Nadal fans make the excuse of him being tired at the USO,and its ok( personally I have nothing against giving that as a reason because considering the amount of matches he played,he could've been tired).But when a Fed fan says Roger had mono .. Bam! its downright rubbish!:roll:

I have no problem with accepting the fact that Fed had a mono and spent months at the beginning of 2008 playing below his former level. However, to assume that he would've had won 3 GSs if he hadn't had mono is rubbish.

BTW, if Nadal fans said Nadal would've won USO last year if he wasn't tired I'd say it's rubbish as well. What could have been can't replace reality.

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 02:14 AM
I have no problem with accepting the fact that Fed had a mono and spent months at the beginning of 2008 playing below his former level. However, to assume that he would've had won 3 GSs if he hadn't had a mono is rubbish.

Did Federer have mono in 2007? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

Did Federer have mono in 2006? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

Did Federer have mono in 2004? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

:oops:

abmk
03-10-2009, 02:18 AM
^

right, it depends only on federer and no one else :roll:.

You are taking this fanaticism to a new level. Stop it !

LurkingGod
03-10-2009, 02:24 AM
Did Federer have mono in 2007? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

Did Federer have mono in 2006? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

Did Federer have mono in 2004? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

:oops:
What happened in 2003 and 2005? Did he have mono?

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 02:31 AM
What happened in 2003 and 2005? Did he have mono?
In 2003, he was just getting his act together and won his first GS. I can't think of too many players that won more than one Slam in their first year of winning Slams.

In 2005, he was one point away from winning 3 GS's again, but he foolishly decided to play that infamous between the legs shot when he was match point up on Safin. He's learned since then to never to make that mistake again.

mandy01
03-10-2009, 02:40 AM
I have no problem with accepting the fact that Fed had a mono and spent months at the beginning of 2008 playing below his former level. However, to assume that he would've had won 3 GSs if he hadn't had mono is rubbish.

BTW, if Nadal fans said Nadal would've won USO last year if he wasn't tired I'd say it's rubbish as well. What could have been can't replace reality.
Oh I absolutely agree.I will never say Roger would've won RG or Wimbledon had he not had mono.

LurkingGod
03-10-2009, 02:45 AM
In 2005, he was one point away from winning 3 GS's again, but he foolishly decided to play that infamous between the legs shot when he was match point up on Safin. He's learned since then to never to make that mistake again.

See?? S*** could happen. A point away from winning is still counted as a loss. He could be 100% fit last year and still made some bad mistakes like he did against Safin that cost him a GS title or two. You never know.

LurkingGod
03-10-2009, 02:52 AM
Oh I absolutely agree.I will never say Roger would've won RG or Wimbledon had he not had mono.

Thanks. That's what separates fans and fanboys I think.:)

dandaman
03-10-2009, 04:31 AM
Hi!
I only read the first 3 pages of this thread because it wen't so off topic with the whole Fed and Nadal debate again.

Anyways.....i hope you feel better soon.

I had Mono last year in June. And yes there is no way to describe how weak you feel. And the throat pain is ridicolous.
It took me around 3 months to recover, but even now, 9 months after i got it, i'm still struggling to get fit again. I play semi-professional(meaning i usually train every day for a few hours and also play future tournaments here in the area), but since i had mono, i struggle to train more than 3 times a week, because i get sick all the time.
I even got my tonsils taken out in december, and the pain from that operation was about on par with the throat pain i had when i had mono(which means a lot).

I also struggle to understand how Federer managed to play so soon after having mono. I mean, you can hardly get out of bed, and he was on court winning 5 setters.


BTW: My spleen was also enlarged and my liver was also weaker. So watch out. Don't do sports to early, you can easily die from a ruptured spleen. I even if your spleen is back to normal, take things slow. I started to practice to early, and it made things a lot worse.

Gen
03-10-2009, 05:17 AM
I am not a Federer fan or a medical doctor. But my mother is a medical doctor specializing in infectious diseases. And when all these discussions about Federer having/not having mono started, I interviewed her in detail. First of all she says: yes, mono can be so mild that for a certain period of time a person doesn't even know that he is ill. The only symptoms he has are tiredness, sleepiness and general feeling that something is wrong, but this is not a good reason to go to the doctor. And there is also Level 3 mono which is very hard to endure, it is terribly painful, and if not looked after in good time may result in death.

Of course, there's no way a person can be diagnosed on TV, but when I was watching IW semifinals (vs Mardy Fish?), my mother was visiting with me. Federer stopped running all of a sudden, I said "Gosh, what's happenning to him". My mother asked "Is he a guy with mono? He hasn't recovered".

Since there are no mono specialists in this forum, I'd rather trust my mom.

Nadal_Freak
03-10-2009, 05:26 AM
I am not a Federer fan or a medical doctor. But my mother is a medical doctor specializing in infectious diseases. And when all these discussions about Federer having/not having mono started, I interviewed her in detail. First of all she says: yes, mono can be so mild that for a certain period of time a person doesn't even know that he is ill. The only symptoms he has a tiredness, sleepiness and general feeling that something is wrong, but this is not a good reason to go to the doctor. And there is Level 3 mono which is very hard to endure, it is terribly painful, and if not looked after in good time may result in death.

Of course, there's no way a person can be diagnosed on TV, but when I was watching IW semifinals (vs Mardy Fish?), my mother was visiting with me. Federer stopped running all of a sudden, I said "Gosh, whet's happenning to him". My mother asked "Is he a guy with mono? He hasn't recovered".

Since there are no mono specialists in this forum, I'd rather trust my mom.
Yeah it's pretty obvious Fed would not be able to play with a severe case of mono (level 3). The *******s want to make him superman though. It would be also super dumb to attempt to play with level 3 mono. Thanks for clearing it up for I read before. I believe he did have mono but hardly noticeable except for the symptoms of fatigue.

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 11:25 AM
See?? S*** could happen. A point away from winning is still counted as a loss. He could be 100% fit last year and still made some bad mistakes like he did against Safin that cost him a GS title or two. You never know.
2006 and 2007 proves that Federer wouldn't let that happen again. :)

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Oh I absolutely agree.I will never say Roger would've won RG or Wimbledon had he not had mono.
Probably not RG, but I do think he would have won the Aus Open and Wimbledon in 2008 if he never caught mono.

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 11:34 AM
Yeah it's pretty obvious Fed would not be able to play with a severe case of mono (level 3). The *******s want to make him superman though. It would be also super dumb to attempt to play with level 3 mono. Thanks for clearing it up for I read before. I believe he did have mono but hardly noticeable except for the symptoms of fatigue.
Please let me know the next time YOU win Wimbledon or the Aus Open with even a mild case of mono. :-?

Federer is one of the fittest athletes on the planet. Even so, it was obvious to anyone watching who wasn't biased against him that there was something seriously wrong with him. He was clearly struggling physically. It doesn't really matter what level mono he had. He was sick! And it's nearly impossible to compete at the top levels of pro tennis with ANY level of mono in your system. What Federer was able to achieve despite his serious illness was a near miracle. What an incredible physical specimen he must be. :shock:

NandoMania
03-10-2009, 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by $$$$mony$$$$ View Post
i was just diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday and i will tell you this. federer is the absolute god man for playing the Australian with this.

Which year are you talking about??? Federer did not have mono in 2009 AFAIK.
:roll: The year BEFORE 2009 :roll:

Where do you get that from, Shaolin? Are you in $$money$$ mind? Because $$money$$ is the one I asked about what $$money$$ wrote.

veroniquem
03-10-2009, 02:00 PM
Did Federer have mono in 2007? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

Did Federer have mono in 2006? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

Did Federer have mono in 2004? No? And how many GS's did he win? Oh, three?

:oops:
Did he have mono in 2005 then? :)

tahiti
03-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Did he have mono in 2005 then? :)

:twisted:mono-pono-bono-sono-dunno:twisted:

veroniquem
03-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Look, I am a federer fan, but I am NOT an excuse machine. He appeared fine healthwise to me @ FO and wimby. He'd have had a pretty good shot at winning AO 2008 had he not been sick, but its not a lock since djoko and tsonga were in top notch form. Mono did affect his 2008 performance, but not as much as you are making it out to be.
BreakPoint manages to be more of a sore loser than Federer himself. That's a feat :).

veroniquem
03-10-2009, 02:05 PM
:twisted:mono-pono-bono-sono-dunno:twisted:
Wow tahiti! Care to explain? :shock:

080825
03-10-2009, 02:36 PM
I have one question on mono, please consult your mom. How likely the following case would be? A doctor diagnosed mono with confidence 3 month after its onset, meanwhile it was such a mild version that it was complete over when diagnosed and the patient was allowed to participate in world elite sports competition day in and day out. Thanks

I am not a Federer fan or a medical doctor. But my mother is a medical doctor specializing in infectious diseases. And when all these discussions about Federer having/not having mono started, I interviewed her in detail. First of all she says: yes, mono can be so mild that for a certain period of time a person doesn't even know that he is ill. The only symptoms he has are tiredness, sleepiness and general feeling that something is wrong, but this is not a good reason to go to the doctor. And there is also Level 3 mono which is very hard to endure, it is terribly painful, and if not looked after in good time may result in death.

Of course, there's no way a person can be diagnosed on TV, but when I was watching IW semifinals (vs Mardy Fish?), my mother was visiting with me. Federer stopped running all of a sudden, I said "Gosh, what's happenning to him". My mother asked "Is he a guy with mono? He hasn't recovered".

Since there are no mono specialists in this forum, I'd rather trust my mom.

devila
03-10-2009, 04:23 PM
Somehow, Fed managed to show up for every big tournament and continue
whining about his "secret illness". He didn't seem to collapse in Miami, unless the delusional fan says so. I bet he was so courageous when he complained about a delay in his tough French Open match against a journeyman. What a superb athlete.... He should lose earlier than unlucky finals, then!
Nadal never made anyone look as bad as Federer. Not even cash-poor tennis fans look as sick and slow as the almighty FED!

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 04:49 PM
feeling alright, being out fo school everyday isnt so bad :)

icedevil0289
03-10-2009, 04:51 PM
feeling alright, being out fo school everyday isnt so bad :)

glad to hear it. I guess missing school is the the one good thing about being sick.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 05:07 PM
Please let me know the next time YOU win Wimbledon or the Aus Open with even a mild case of mono. :-?

Federer is one of the fittest athletes on the planet. Even so, it was obvious to anyone watching who wasn't biased against him that there was something seriously wrong with him. He was clearly struggling physically. It doesn't really matter what level mono he had. He was sick! And it's nearly impossible to compete at the top levels of pro tennis with ANY level of mono in your system. What Federer was able to achieve despite his serious illness was a near miracle. What an incredible physical specimen he must be. :shock:

I do believe that federer had a case of mono, but i am starting to doubt if it was a real full fledged case of the illness because if he had anywhere near what i have he would be forced to the sidelines until his spleen became less swollen. that being said i will explain that i have been diagnosed with a MODERATE case of mono, this was a conclusion that my ENT, radiologist and infectious disease specialist decided i had. now with this moderate case of mono i cannot play tennis, one because there is a danger that my spleen would rupture and i would possibly die, two there is now way that i could play on vicodin and precoset because I'm basically stoned all day, and three the fatigue that i experience wouldn't allow anyone to play tennis because if i do something thats out of reach i will vomit. even if federer had a mild form of mono he would still have a fraction of these symptoms, and i do believe that he did have a mild case of mono, but mono can also be dormant and you can test positive but be symptomless. federer must have had the absolute mildness for of mono you can contract in order to not take any time of from the sport, something i did not realize because i thought he took months off, i was wrong. lastly, BP don't make such finite conclusions for federers losses at Wimbledon and Roland Garros, federer lost wimbledon because nadal played better than federer after 7-7 in the final set not because federer had mono causing him to play at 99% instead of 100% in those last two games. also nadal completely made a fool of federer at the french because nadal had done that to everyone else at the FO that year. i don't know how old you are but hopefully you have some time to work on your reasoning skills and ability to accept that federer looses sometimes and more frequently now than he did. last thing i want to say is this, just becuase federer is a super athlete according to you (i am not saying he isn't a good athlete) doesn't mean he can get over mono quicker than say me. mono doesn't give a crap about your athletic abilities.

P.S.
than you bp and the other *******s, and all the *******s for screwing my thread up

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 05:12 PM
the last post was a little harsh, I'm in a very irritable mood. i mean it tho. i understood what he was going through until i realized he didn't have what i have no athlete can play a sport with anything close to this level of the disease. I'm sorry federer fans...and *********os don't jump on this post as victory because i think you guys are nuts too

icedevil0289
03-10-2009, 05:18 PM
the last post was a little harsh, I'm in a very irritable mood. i mean it tho. i understood what he was going through until i realized he didn't have what i have no athlete can play a sport with anything close to this level of the disease. I'm sorry federer fans...and *********os don't jump on this post as victory because i think you guys are nuts too

its okay. Fed did mention that if the doctors knew before hand, they would not have asked him to play for a certain amount of time. I don't know if that changes anything. However, I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 05:25 PM
its okay. Fed did mention that if the doctors knew before hand, they would not have asked him to play for a certain amount of time. I don't know if that changes anything. However, I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.



i will clarify that i was just upset that breakpoint and other posters were trying to attribute federers loss at Wimbledon to mono. of course there could be a small or even measurable effect on his playing ability 6 months later in that final. but i feel a respectable person should give credit where it is due and that credit shouldn't be given to mono. ok people

icedevil0289
03-10-2009, 05:27 PM
i will clarify that i was just upset that breakpoint and other posters were trying to attribute federers loss at Wimbledon to mono. of course there could be a small or even measurable effect on his playing ability 6 months later in that final. but i feel a respectable person should give credit where it is due and that credit shouldn't be given to mono. ok people

I agree with you. I mentioned in one of my posts earlier that fed's loss to nadal at the french and wimbledon was not due to mono or the after affects and even fed aknowledged that as well.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 05:39 PM
right i am happy federer understands that. and it's good you do to. it's strange I've never really committed myself to these boards and laughed at how angry people get over their players, and why they lost, who they want to win, and what not. but you know you could almost relate these boards to politics, haha, one side has there view and its staying that way. Thats ok though because it someone's personal ideology. I i think that its fair to make the analogy that *******s are like fox-news and the nadtars are like msnbc or cnn. both stations are at media war with one another over ideology and that is a personal unchangeable choice. people on these boards do need to accept defeat tho. just like bill o'reilly needs to realize that obama is the president becuase most of the country likes him

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 05:41 PM
o and if anyone could offer some help..is there any way that i could make my screen name spelt money instead of mony its quite unflattering.

icedevil0289
03-10-2009, 05:48 PM
right i am happy federer understands that. and it's good you do to. it's strange I've never really committed myself to these boards and laughed at how angry people get over their players, and why they lost, who they want to win, and what not. but you know you could almost relate these boards to politics, haha, one side has there view and its staying that way. Thats ok though because it someone's personal ideology. I i think that its fair to make the analogy that *******s are like fox-news and the nadtars are like msnbc or cnn. both stations are at media war with one another over ideology and that is a personal unchangeable choice. people on these boards do need to accept defeat tho. just like bill o'reilly needs to realize that obama is the president becuase most of the country likes him

lol, I'm a huge fed fan and I immensely dislike fox news. Btw, I don't know how you can edit your username so it says 'money'. Sorry.

$$$$mony$$$$
03-10-2009, 06:07 PM
lol, I'm a huge fed fan and I immensely dislike fox news. Btw, I don't know how you can edit your username so it says 'money'. Sorry.

darn i guess my account will have to stay miss-spelled. i wasn't saying federer would associate with fox, he probably would be a democrat, at least he seems that way to me, lol.

BreakPoint
03-10-2009, 09:49 PM
i will clarify that i was just upset that breakpoint and other posters were trying to attribute federers loss at Wimbledon to mono. of course there could be a small or even measurable effect on his playing ability 6 months later in that final. but i feel a respectable person should give credit where it is due and that credit shouldn't be given to mono. ok people
Hmmm.....perhaps you ought to wait and see how you feel in 6 months time before making that judgment about Federer's playing ability at Wimbledon?

Anyway, hope you get over your mono quickly.

tahiti
03-11-2009, 01:41 AM
Wow tahiti! Care to explain? :shock:

Sorry veroniquem, just my poor attempt at trying to get my head around this mono thing. :)

Gen
03-11-2009, 05:08 AM
I have one question on mono, please consult your mom. How likely the following case would be? A doctor diagnosed mono with confidence 3 month after its onset, meanwhile it was such a mild version that it was complete over when diagnosed and the patient was allowed to participate in world elite sports competition day in and day out. Thanks

I've asked. But you know all these doctors. Unless they have a patient, all his tests and the case history, all their answers are maybes, perhapses, possiblys, etc.

Skipping all the uncertainties, the gist will be:

1. It is not very probable that the illness was diagnosed after it had been over. More probably he still had it. Mom calls it "latent form".

2. No way any medical doctor having no special knowledge of sports medicine can recommend anything to the sportsmen, especially elite ones. Their physique, endurance, will power and a lot of other things are entirely different from ordinary people. At her clinic she has a gang of 10-12 year old ballet school students down with hepatitis. Hepatitis is a very dangerous and painful disease. Normally people stay in bed all the time. These girls do 1,5-hour exercise every morning regardless of their condition. And they are not elite sportsmen even.

3. If after being diagnosed (all this refers to the mildest mono only) he took a couple months off, he may be fully recovered. If he suffered any physical load whatsoever, the consequences might be felt for another 3 to 10 months, and there's a chance of relapse. The worst thing about it is: he'll never know when such a relapse affects him. It may happen during a match.

Sorry, I'm no good at talking medicine, I'm an engineer, that's how I understood it. Not sure that I got everything right.

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 12:34 PM
Hmmm.....perhaps you ought to wait and see how you feel in 6 months time before making that judgment about Federer's playing ability at Wimbledon?

Anyway, hope you get over your mono quickly.
Oh, and please keep in mind that you're resting and not being physically active nor doing anything straining while Federer continued to compete at the highest level of pro sports which most likely extended his recovery time by many more months.

veroniquem
03-11-2009, 01:56 PM
Sorry veroniquem, just my poor attempt at trying to get my head around this mono thing. :)
It's OK, you just did a good job of puzzling me!

veroniquem
03-11-2009, 01:58 PM
I've asked. But you know all these doctors. Unless they have a patient, all his tests and the case history, all their answers are maybes, perhapses, possiblys, etc.

Skipping all the uncertainties, the gist will be:

1. It is not very probable that the illness was diagnosed after it had been over. More probably he still had it. Mom calls it "latent form".

2. No way any medical doctor having no special knowledge of sports medicine can recommend anything to the sportsmen, especially elite ones. Their physique, endurance, will power and a lot of other things are entirely different from ordinary people. At her clinic she has a gang of 10-12 year old ballet school students down with hepatitis. Hepatitis is a very dangerous and painful disease. Normally people stay in bed all the time. These girls do 1,5-hour exercise every morning regardless of their condition. And they are not elite sportsmen even.

3. If after being diagnosed (all this refers to the mildest mono only) he took a couple months off, he may be fully recovered. If he suffered any physical load whatsoever, the consequences might be felt for another 3 to 10 months, and there's a chance of relapse. The worst thing about it is: he'll never know when such a relapse affects him. It may happen during a match.

Sorry, I'm no good at talking medicine, I'm an engineer, that's how I understood it. Not sure that I got everything right.
I think you did a splendid job of explaining everything. Many thanks!

hoodjem
03-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Um.....IT DID!!!!

You obviously didn't see his semi against Djokovic nor his earlier match against Tipsarevic! When have you EVER seen Federer sweat like a pig in heat even during the warm-up?

Serious question (no sarcasm or irony intended).

Did Fed's mono afflict him between the quarters and the semis or before?

koalakoala
03-11-2009, 02:52 PM
I've asked. But you know all these doctors. Unless they have a patient, all his tests and the case history, all their answers are maybes, perhapses, possiblys, etc.

Skipping all the uncertainties, the gist will be:

1. It is not very probable that the illness was diagnosed after it had been over. More probably he still had it. Mom calls it "latent form".

2. No way any medical doctor having no special knowledge of sports medicine can recommend anything to the sportsmen, especially elite ones. Their physique, endurance, will power and a lot of other things are entirely different from ordinary people. At her clinic she has a gang of 10-12 year old ballet school students down with hepatitis. Hepatitis is a very dangerous and painful disease. Normally people stay in bed all the time. These girls do 1,5-hour exercise every morning regardless of their condition. And they are not elite sportsmen even.

3. If after being diagnosed (all this refers to the mildest mono only) he took a couple months off, he may be fully recovered. If he suffered any physical load whatsoever, the consequences might be felt for another 3 to 10 months, and there's a chance of relapse. The worst thing about it is: he'll never know when such a relapse affects him. It may happen during a match.

Sorry, I'm no good at talking medicine, I'm an engineer, that's how I understood it. Not sure that I got everything right.

Thank you for your post. Hope Federer would not have relapse in future.

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 11:59 PM
Serious question (no sarcasm or irony intended).

Did Fed's mono afflict him between the quarters and the semis or before?
Fed had mono from before the tournament started. That's why he was bedridden for the whole week leading up to the Aus Open. The fact that he even made it all the way to the semis was a near miracle. If he was healthy, he would have spanked Tipsarevic in straight sets just like the last time he played him.

Federer is the elite of the elite athletes so he is able to withstand an incredible amount of physical punishment and endurance that you or I could not even begin to fathom.

NandoMania
03-12-2009, 01:58 AM
What's the attraction here? It's a thread about Roger Federer having mononucleosis in January 2008. How on earth could that possibly inspire multiple pages of discussion about Roger and his mononucleosis. I remember that they were calling it "glandular fever" at Wimbledon 2008. For some reason that completely excapes understandng, the OP started this thread about it, and other people are still talking about it. I don't get it.