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soyizgood
03-08-2009, 09:05 PM
For all the talk about WTA girls just blasting flat balls, whom in particular actually hits so flat? I look at the top of the ranks and most of them put quite a bit of loop on their shots. I'll probably put together a poll, but need some consensus.

My list comes up with these girls so far:
Dementieva
Venus
Azarenka
Bartoli

saram
03-08-2009, 09:06 PM
Who is in the top ten this week?

pricey_aus
03-08-2009, 09:14 PM
1 Williams, Serena Usa

2 Safina, Dinara Rus

3 Jankovic, Jelena Srb

4 Dementieva, Elena Rus

5 Williams, Venus Usa

6 Zvonareva, Vera Rus

7 Ivanovic, Ana Srb

8 Kuznetsova, Svetlana Rus

9 Petrova, Nadia Rus

10 Radwanska, Agnieszka Pol

11 Azarenka, Victoria Blr

12 Wozniacki, Caroline Den

13 Bartoli, Marion Fra

14 Cornet, Alize Fra

15 Pennetta, Flavia Ita

16 Schnyder, Patty Sui

17 Cibulkova, Dominika Svk

18 Zheng, Jie Chn

19 Medina Garrigues, Anabel Esp

20 Mauresmo, Amelie Fra

21 Kanepi, Kaia Est

22 Srebotnik, Katarina Slo

23 Sharapova, Maria Rus

24 Chakvetadze, Anna Rus

25 Sugiyama, Ai Jpn

26 Kleybanova, Alisa Rus

27 (28 Szavay, Agnes Hun

28 (27 Bammer, Sybille Aut

29 (29 Bondarenko, Alona Ukr

30 (30 Wozniak, Aleksandra Can

31 (34 Benesova, Iveta Cze

32 (31 Errani, Sara Ita

33 (32 Peng, Shuai Chn

34 (35 Suarez Navarro, Carla Esp

35 (36 Hantuchova, Daniela Svk

36 (39 Dulko, Gisela Arg

37 (37 Cirstea, Sorana Rou

38 (40 Kirilenko, Maria Rus

39 (38 Mattek-sands, Bethanie Usa

40 (41 Razzano, Virginie Fra

41 (42 Stosur, Samantha Aus

42 (43 Pavlyuchenkova, Anastasia Rus

43 (45 Tanasugarn, Tamarine Tha

44 (33 Schiavone, Francesca Ita

45 (44 Kvitova, Petra Cze

46 (46 Rybarikova, Magdalena Svk

47 (49 Peer, Shahar Isr

48 (50 Pironkova, Tsvetana Bul

49 (48 Keothavong, Anne Gbr

50 (51 Niculescu, Monica Rou

51 (47 Safarova, Lucie Cze

52 (53 Martinez Sanchez, Maria Jose Esp

53 (54 Li, Na Chn

54 (55 Makarova, Ekaterina Rus

55 (56 Lisicki, Sabine Ger

56 (57 Vesnina, Elena Rus

57 (59 Garbin, Tathiana Ita

58 (52 Govortsova, Olga Blr

59 (60 Bondarenko, Kateryna Ukr

60 (61 Dechy, Nathalie Fra

61 (62 Dushevina, Vera Rus

62 (71 Zahlavova Strycova, Barbora Cze

63 (64 Chan, Yung-jan Tpe

64 (67 Johansson, Mathilde Fra

65 (66 Groenefeld, Anna-lena Ger

66 (63 Gallovits, Edina Rou

67 (68 Paszek, Tamira Aut

68 (77 Coin, Julie Fra

69 (70 Vinci, Roberta Ita

70 (58 Erakovic, Marina Nzl

71 (65 Kudryavtseva, Alla Rus

72 (79 Wickmayer, Yanina Bel

73 (72 Bremond, Severine Fra

74 (78 Cetkovska, Petra Cze

75 (74 Amanmuradova, Akgul Uzb

76 (83 Parmentier, Pauline Fra

77 (73 Czink, Melinda Hun

78 (84 Groth, Jarmila Svk

79 (76 Mayr, Patricia Aut

80 (69 Vaidisova, Nicole Cze

81 (80 Dokic, Jelena Aus

82 (81 Voskoboeva, Galina Kaz

83 (82 Dellacqua, Casey Aus

84 (86 Barrois, Kristina Ger

85 (85 Morita, Ayumi Jpn

86 (87 Cohen-aloro, Stephanie Fra

87 (96 Flipkens, Kirsten Bel

88 (75 Mirza, Sania Ind

89 (92 Pin, Camille Fra

90 (88 Dominguez Lino, Lourdes Esp

91 (93 Zakopalova, Klara Cze

92 (94 Hradecka, Lucie Cze

93 (95 De Los Rios, Rossana Par

94 (103 Ani, Maret Est

95 (97 Yakimova, Anastasiya Blr

96 (91 Koryttseva, Mariya Ukr

97 (98 Rezai, Aravane Fra

98 (90 Arvidsson, Sofia Swe

99 (99 Bacsinszky, Timea Sui

100 (100 Domachowska, Marta

pricey_aus
03-08-2009, 09:14 PM
there's the list of flat hitters on the WTA :D

maverick66
03-08-2009, 10:49 PM
it really would be easier to tell you who hit with variety.

Shaolin
03-08-2009, 10:52 PM
Davenport hit really flat.

soyizgood
03-08-2009, 11:35 PM
Davenport hit really flat.

I consider Davenport retired. No way she's coming back after being pregnant again.

stirallyracer
03-08-2009, 11:44 PM
although bartoli can get some great angles on her shots, i don't think she hits with that much spin. it's inherently harder to create topspin with 2 hands on the racket, because the player cannot whip the racket through with as much headspeed.

same with venus, both of the williams sisters seem to like driving the 2 handed backhand a lot. venus's forehand seems to have good top, though.

even nadal, who has a lot of topspin on the forehand, tends to flatten out his backhand and drive it hard. personally, i hit with more top on the 1HBH than the 2HBH.

i suppose it's hard to think about loopy shots in the WTA when we see the men of the ATP rip forehands with ridiculous amounts of topspin. maybe the girls are trying just as hard to spin, but they just don't have as much strength to do it like the guys.

jazar
03-09-2009, 01:18 AM
schiavone doesnt hit flat

crazylevity
03-09-2009, 07:38 AM
although bartoli can get some great angles on her shots, i don't think she hits with that much spin. it's inherently harder to create topspin with 2 hands on the racket, because the player cannot whip the racket through with as much headspeed.

same with venus, both of the williams sisters seem to like driving the 2 handed backhand a lot. venus's forehand seems to have good top, though.

even nadal, who has a lot of topspin on the forehand, tends to flatten out his backhand and drive it hard. personally, i hit with more top on the 1HBH than the 2HBH.

i suppose it's hard to think about loopy shots in the WTA when we see the men of the ATP rip forehands with ridiculous amounts of topspin. maybe the girls are trying just as hard to spin, but they just don't have as much strength to do it like the guys.

Please have a look at David Nalbandian's 2 handed backhand. There's as much spin as he wants, and he generates insane angles with it. The Paris 07 match with Federer in particular is worth perusal.

tintin
03-09-2009, 09:41 AM
Dementieva
Znovareva
Bartoli
Cibulkova
Azarenka

cknobman
03-09-2009, 10:45 AM
OP your asking wrong question. Better question is who hits with a decent amount of spin on the WTA?

Of course when people comment on flat they dont mean 100% flat with no spin. All players put some spin on the ball to keep it in play but generally speaking they arent hitting shots with good spin on them.

sureshs
03-09-2009, 10:47 AM
None of them are flat, if you know what I mean, though all of them are good hitters.

soyizgood
03-09-2009, 11:54 AM
OP your asking wrong question. Better question is who hits with a decent amount of spin on the WTA?

Of course when people comment on flat they dont mean 100% flat with no spin. All players put some spin on the ball to keep it in play but generally speaking they arent hitting shots with good spin on them.

You don't really see much for surface specialists on WTA. You might see women allergic to certain surfaces (i.e. Venus with clay, Safina with grass) but most of the events they play are conducive for flat/low-trajectory spin. Clay season isn't so long and drawn out on the WTA.

Despite that, I can only find a few ladies that actually hit really flat or low-trajectory. Most of the girls either hit a lot or moderate amounts of spin and clearance on the forehand. As for backhand, quite a few hit relatively flat.

JohnS
03-09-2009, 12:00 PM
16 Schnyder, Patty Sui

She probably hits the loopiest of the top tier

anointedone
03-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Almost all of them hit very flat with only marginal topspin, mostly powerful drive shots. That is the WTA is so 1-dimensional and boring now. We need more Schnyder like racquet artists hopefully with more hunger and desire than Schnyder ever had, or some Navratilova or Novotna like net rushers, or some Hingis like point constructers. This would nicely balance out all the power sluggers who are right now mostly inferior, more error prone, less athletic and less mobile, and far mentally weaker clones of the Williams (even past their peaks).

Shaolin
03-09-2009, 01:48 PM
She probably hits the loopiest of the top tier

She hits about the loopiest FH Ive ever seen...she's like the Donald Young of the WTA. Except she wins matches occasionally.

Ripster
03-09-2009, 02:19 PM
Mara Santangelo. I don't think anybody hits flatter than her.

cottontail
03-09-2009, 02:31 PM
The same answer I gave on the other thread about flat hitters:

Kimiko Date-Krumm.
She was known as a flat hitter during the 1990s. Even after her return to tour last year, she's still hitting with the basically same technique, only using the modern racket.

soyizgood
03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
She hits about the loopiest FH Ive ever seen...she's like the Donald Young of the WTA. Except she wins matches occasionally.

Amazing Schnyder gets so much loop from an 18x20 racquet. Imagine her with a 16x19 or even a POG....

Shaolin
03-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Amazing Schnyder gets so much loop from an 18x20 racquet. Imagine her with a 16x19 or even a POG....


Yeah her swing is like a dutch windmill. She could get insane topspin with anything!

Pilot
03-09-2009, 09:47 PM
Karolina Sprem hits ridiculously low trajectory balls almost all the time.

LPShanet
06-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Amazing that no one has mentioned Sharapova yet. Or Dokic. There are dozens, but those are pretty high profile to have left out.