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JuliusWinto
03-11-2009, 08:40 AM
I just read this on the tennis.com ticker. Everyone's been reporting Cahill being hired as Fed's coach, including Bodo, but it doesn't look legit. We'll find out soon, I guess.:shock:

JuliusWinto
03-11-2009, 08:41 AM
by Kamakshi Tandon

Darren Cahill travelled back to Las Vegas after a trial coaching consultation with Roger Federer and was not at Federer's practice session at Indian Wells on Tuesday, reports Swiss wire service SDA. The status of their relationship is unknown. Swiss Davis Cup captain Severin Luthi, who has been serving as Federer's coach, was present as Federer hit with Tommy Haas.

Last week, Federer's agent Tony Godsick confirmed that Federer and Cahill were working together in Dubai but said, "It is a test for both. One cannot yet say whether it will be something long term."

Federer is due to give a press conference at Indian Wells on Wednesday at 2:00 pm local time.

RalphNYC
03-11-2009, 08:58 AM
NYTimes:
"But according to Federer’s agent, Tony Godsick, Federer and Cahill will not be working together going forward, in large part because Cahill was not prepared to travel as extensively as Federer would have required. Cahill has two young children and is now based in Las Vegas, where he moved when he was coaching now-retired American star Andre Agassi. Cahill also has a second home in Adelaide, Australia."

oh well..

MichaelChang
03-11-2009, 09:16 AM
crap. 10 char.

vtmike
03-11-2009, 09:23 AM
After weeks of speculation that Roger Federer would hire Darren Cahill as his coach, Federer's agent has confirmed that the two will work together at this week's Masters Series Indian Wells.

Rumors of a partnership between world No. 2 Roger Federer and esteemed ATP coach (turned commentator) Darren Cahill have been running rampant for months, if not years. Those rumors heated up last month during Federer's training stint with Cahill in Dubai while the Swiss rested a lingering back injury.

On Tuesday, speculation was confirmed by Federer's agent, Tony Godsick. "It is a test for both," he explained. "One cannot yet say whether it will be something long term. They'll work together now and see how it works out.

"The two have long had a great respect for each other - It was occasionally discussed - now that Roger's had a break, anyway, because of his back, the timing was perfect for the test. Although they know and respect each other it could be that their personalities do not match."

While the duration of the partnership is unknown, it will begin this week in Indian Wells, where the first Masters Series event of 2009 is set to begin on Thursday.

Federer had previously worked with Tony Roche, mostly for clay-court help, but they parted in 2007. Federer has not had a full-time coach since splitting with Peter Lundgren six years ago.

Cahill has already mentored two previous world No. 1 players, Lleyton Hewitt and Andre Agassi. While commentating for ESPN earlier this year at the Australian Open, both Cahill and Patrick McEnroe suggested Federer needed a coach after the 13-time Grand Slam champion went down to Rafael Nadal in the final.

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20090310/Cahill_with_Federer_in_Indian_Wells

mandy01
03-11-2009, 09:32 AM
Cahill wont be travelling with Roger due to travelling issues.

mandy01
03-11-2009, 09:32 AM
oops..i meant * working*

MichaelChang
03-11-2009, 09:37 AM
Why are we getting contradictory information?

jrod
03-11-2009, 09:40 AM
Why are we getting contradictory information?

Well, it has to do with the lack of a time stamp. Some of this is new, and some isn't. The key question is what is the credibility of the information?

eagle
03-11-2009, 09:40 AM
Hopefully it'll be cleared up when Fed speaks at 2pm today.

So, I think we can hold off on more speculations until then.

r,
eagle

marc45
03-11-2009, 10:18 AM
new york times reporting (christopher clarey) it is off...cahill didn't want to travel extensively...fed has a press conference at 2 pacific time www.nytimes.com "federer still without a full time coach" in Sports....godsick is main source

marc45
03-11-2009, 10:20 AM
.................

koalakoala
03-11-2009, 12:37 PM
I am speechless.

Nadal_Freak
03-11-2009, 12:41 PM
Another case of Fed being stubborn. He just has to have it his way.

Mungo73
03-11-2009, 12:43 PM
Another case of Fed being stubborn. He just has to have it his way.

yeah he is too stubborn and full of himself to accept other opinions

miyagi
03-11-2009, 12:51 PM
I hope this is not true....

I think this could have been just the thing Fed needed to get past the 14 slam mark.....

Anyway we shall see, it is a shame if true!

veroniquem
03-11-2009, 12:57 PM
Even if Federer had stayed with Cahill, we don't know how much he would have listened to him, Fed is so independent! And remember that Federer played his worst final at RG or his worst final period with Higueras in the stands. Maybe he'll do better without a coach, maybe a coach just adds extra pressure on him, who knows?

Oui, c'est moi.
03-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Another case of Fed being stubborn. He just has to have it his way.
No, it's another case of you not getting your story straight.

Federer is the one who wants to work with Cahill, Cahill is the one who doesn't want to be away from his kids in Vegas.

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Another case of Fed being stubborn. He just has to have it his way.
Um...Cahill is the one who refuses to travel and prefers to stay in Vegas. So who's the one that "just has to have it his way" and is "being stubborn"? :roll:

Lindsay
03-11-2009, 01:01 PM
http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6628811

veroniquem
03-11-2009, 01:04 PM
No, it's another case of you not getting your story straight.

Federer is the one who wants to work with Cahill, Cahill is the one who doesn't want to be away from his kids in Vegas.
If that's the case, Federer will find someone else. I can't imagine there aren't people out there that are competent, have no kids and would gladly jump on the opportunity to be Fed's coach. It's interesting though that the travelling issue was the same reason given for parting with Roche.

Pistol Pete
03-11-2009, 01:09 PM
roger needs paul annacone

Oui, c'est moi.
03-11-2009, 01:10 PM
I wonder if he's going to mention this in his presser today.

Nadal_Freak
03-11-2009, 01:18 PM
Um...Cahill is the one who refuses to travel and prefers to stay in Vegas. So who's the one that "just has to have it his way" and is "being stubborn"? :roll:
Um who is the one demanding his coach to follow him all over the world? What is wrong with Fed going to Vegas to practice? He's got no kids. But yeah have it your way with your Fed tilted sunglasses.

devila
03-11-2009, 01:22 PM
His sweety Agassi dumped a 4-1 lead in the 2005 US Open final. Hewitt couldn't handle his lucky trip to the 2005 Indian Wells final, and dumped a 3rd set in 2007 against Federer. No wonder Cahill jumped on the Federer bandwagon.
He whined about Courier and Pat McEnroe's bandwagon jumping onto Roddick. LMAO

miyagi
03-11-2009, 01:33 PM
wow a fews days ago Cahill was the Messiah now he is stubborn and wants to have it his way?

I just don't understand? LOL

Hope they work it out, if he has children I think it is a little much to expect him to travel lots maybe they can both compromise?

mandy01
03-11-2009, 01:42 PM
here's what Cahill has to say-I'm posting the main points so as to not make the post too long.

Despite a long test session with Darren Cahill in Dubai earlier this month, Roger Federer is still without a full-time coach. Federer, the 13-time Grand Slam singles champion from Switzerland, and Cahill, one of the most successful coaches in tennis, have long been considered a likely match. Both are understated and analytical, and Federer has a strong connection with Cahill's home country of Australia. But Cahill and Federer's agent, Tony Godsick, confirmed that Federer and Cahill would not be working together, in large part because Cahill was not prepared to travel as extensively as Federer would have required. Cahill, originally from Adelaide, Australia, has two young children and is based in Las Vegas, where he moved when he was coaching the U.S. star Andre Agassi, now retired.

"With Roger being European and all those away weeks and the kids entrenched in school here in Las Vegas the reality really hit in Dubai," Cahill said in a telephone interview. "It was 100 percent that. We couldn't get past that practical hurdle. Roger is an absolutely class act. I told him on Sunday, and it was a difficult decision, but I just couldn't do it. It's getting tougher and tougher for me pack the bags and leave the kids at this stage."

Federer was to give a news conference later Wednesday in Indian Wells, California, where he is preparing to return to action in the BNP Paribas Open. Federer, ranked second in the world, has not played since losing on Feb. 1 in emotional fashion to Rafael Nadal in the final of the Australian Open, the year's first Grand Slam tournament. Federer withdrew from an event in Dubai and the first round of Davis Cup against the United States, citing concerns about a lingering, if unspecified, lower back problem. His back troubled him last autumn, causing him to retire from the Paris indoor event in November. He returned at the Tennis Masters Cup in Shanghai and won six matches, often in dominating fashion, at the Australian Open in January, before ending up in tears after fading badly in the fifth set. According to Godsick, Federer's back did bother him in Australia, and his longtime physical trainer Pierre Paganini later presented him with his options.

"Both the doctor and Pierre said, 'You can either continue on with this. It's not a major problem but it could be a nagging injury. Or you can take the time to rest it and rehab it and strengthen it so it most likely won't be a problem in the future,"' Godsick said.

Cahill resigned in February as coach of the Australian Davis Cup team.

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Cahill said he was the one to make contact this time. "They have reached out a couple of times over the years," Cahill said. "And this time I was about to sit down and talk about a role with adidas, but before I did that and put myself away for those two or three years, I sat down with Tony and said, 'We're forever having this conversation. There are a lot of hurdles to clear, but maybe we should try and sit down and at least have a chat."'Federer invited Cahill for a nine-day trial run at his training base in Dubai that ended this month. "It went extremely well," Cahill said. "The first four or five days, we had to go pretty tentatively, because he was doing a lot of work with Pierre on the back and strengthening it. The last four or five days, it really picked up."Cahill said he intended to pursue discussions with adidas to formalize his relationship with the sporting goods company, which has hired coaching and training specialists, including Agassi's former conditioning coach Gil Reyes, to work with players under contract with adidas. Cahill also intends to continue his television commentary work for ESPN.

mandy01
03-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Um who is the one demanding his coach to follow him all over the world? What is wrong with Fed going to Vegas to practice? He's got no kids. But yeah have it your way with your Fed tilted sunglasses.

Dont be ridiculous..Roger practices in Dubai basically because it is close to Europe and Australia and other places where Asian tourneys take place.It is also not too far away from the U.S.Plus,the climate there is conducive to training.

mandy01
03-11-2009, 01:46 PM
please pardon some mistakes that have occured while editing the post.

Nadal_Freak
03-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Dont be ridiculous..Roger practices in Dubai basically because it is close to Europe and Australia and other places where Asian tourneys take place.It is also not too far away from the U.S.Plus,the climate there is conducive to training.
And Las Vegas isn't?

veroniquem
03-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Good luck to Fed for finding a coach who will be willing to spend most of his- non tournament- time in Dubai! Fed would have more choice if he agreed to live in the US or in Europe I guess.

devila
03-11-2009, 02:19 PM
Come on now. Fed has no tax to pay outside the more noisy, bright city of Las Vegas.
Conveniently, he gets easy chances for trophies at the US Open and on the North American continent.

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Um who is the one demanding his coach to follow him all over the world? What is wrong with Fed going to Vegas to practice? He's got no kids. But yeah have it your way with your Fed tilted sunglasses.
Um...because that's what coaches are supposed to do. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Besides, Federer only asked Cahill to travel 20 weeks a year even though Federer plays much more than 20 weeks a year but even that was too much for Cahill.

And I guess Nadal is also "too demanding"? I see Uncle Toni traveling all over the world to be with Rafa at all the big tournaments. :oops:

And didn't Brad Gilbert travel everywhere with Roddick and with Agassi? I guess Roddick and Agassi are "too demanding", too? And so is Djokovic? Because I also see his coach at every tournament. :-?

Geez...I'd also like a job in which I get paid but don't have to show up for work. But my boss is "too demanding". He actually expects me to show up for work every day as a condition for being employed. Can you believe the nerve of the guy? :roll:

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 02:40 PM
And Las Vegas isn't?
Geography lesson: Take a look at a world map and find Switzerland, then find Dubai, and lastly find Las Vegas. :oops:

vtmike
03-11-2009, 02:40 PM
Um...because that's what coaches are supposed to do. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Besides, Federer only asked Cahill to travel 20 weeks a year even though Federer plays much more than 20 weeks a year but even that was too much for Cahill.

And I guess Nadal is also "too demanding"? I see Uncle Toni traveling all over the world to be with Rafa at all the big tournaments. :oops:

And didn't Brad Gilbert travel everywhere with Roddick and with Agassi? I guess Roddick and Agassi are "too demanding", too? And so is Djokovic? Because I also see his coach at every tournament. :-?

Geez...I'd also like a job in which I get paid but don't have to show up for work. But my boss is "too demanding". He actually expects me to show up for work every day as a condition for being employed. Can you believe the nerve of the guy? :roll:

Good Post! Agree +1

pound cat
03-11-2009, 03:14 PM
Dont be ridiculous..Roger practices in Dubai basically because it is close to Europe and Australia and other places where Asian tourneys take place.It is also not too far away from the U.S.Plus,the climate there is conducive to training.


And it has a very resident friendly taxation system...ie none for the wealthy

pound cat
03-11-2009, 03:19 PM
Um...Cahill is the one who refuses to travel and prefers to stay in Vegas. So who's the one that "just has to have it his way" and is "being stubborn"? :roll:


When you have a family of your own it will all become clear.
Believe it or not, most fathers' /husbands' priority is their children/wife. especially those who have already had a successful career and can afford to do what they want. And he can do a bit of TV commentary so then can all go to Disney World. LOL

Oui, c'est moi.
03-11-2009, 05:22 PM
I don't think BP was criticising Cahill he was just pointing out some troll stupidity.

Rickson
03-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Roger had one of his best years (2004) without a coach. Killer's a good choice, but Roger can do just fine without him.

roundiesee
03-11-2009, 06:13 PM
Um...because that's what coaches are supposed to do. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Besides, Federer only asked Cahill to travel 20 weeks a year even though Federer plays much more than 20 weeks a year but even that was too much for Cahill.

And I guess Nadal is also "too demanding"? I see Uncle Toni traveling all over the world to be with Rafa at all the big tournaments. :oops:

And didn't Brad Gilbert travel everywhere with Roddick and with Agassi? I guess Roddick and Agassi are "too demanding", too? And so is Djokovic? Because I also see his coach at every tournament. :-?

Geez...I'd also like a job in which I get paid but don't have to show up for work. But my boss is "too demanding". He actually expects me to show up for work every day as a condition for being employed. Can you believe the nerve of the guy? :roll:

Too funny BP! Thanks for the post! :)

SaintClaires
03-11-2009, 06:28 PM
I think Nadal should coach Federer

Nadal_Freak
03-11-2009, 06:30 PM
I think Nadal should coach Federer
Or be a psychologist. Keep telling Fed that he is the best.

SaintClaires
03-11-2009, 06:31 PM
Or be a psychologist. Keep telling Fed that he is the best.

HHHaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaahahahahahahhahahahahah!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good one :twisted:

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 08:51 PM
When you have a family of your own it will all become clear.
Believe it or not, most fathers' /husbands' priority is their children/wife. especially those who have already had a successful career and can afford to do what they want. And he can do a bit of TV commentary so then can all go to Disney World. LOL
Yes, I totally understand and I totally agree. That's what I'm saying. Cahill not wanting the job has nothing to do with Federer being "stubborn" nor "too demanding". It only has to do with Cahill wanting to be home with his kids, which is totally understandable. People putting the blame on Federer are just ridiculous.

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 08:52 PM
I don't think BP was criticising Cahill he was just pointing out some troll stupidity.
Exactly!! :)

And that troll knows exactly who he is. :oops:

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 08:53 PM
Too funny BP! Thanks for the post! :)
Thanks, you're welcome. :)

BreakPoint
03-11-2009, 08:56 PM
I think Nadal should coach Federer
Better yet, Federer should hire Uncle Toni to be his coach. Then Uncle Toni can reveal all the secrets on how to beat Nadal and also get into Rafa's head. :)

Morrissey
03-11-2009, 09:00 PM
Even if Federer had stayed with Cahill, we don't know how much he would have listened to him, Fed is so independent! And remember that Federer played his worst final at RG or his worst final period with Higueras in the stands. Maybe he'll do better without a coach, maybe a coach just adds extra pressure on him, who knows?

I think Fed not having a coach all those years was a double-edged sword for him. From 2004-06 it worked wonderfully for him because he was able to play on his talent alone and dominate his competition, the voice in his head was more than enough. But now that he's struggling he needs an outside voice to sort out the kinks. But he's achieved so much without a coach that he probably thinks that the coach would offer nothing insightful for a guy who dominated tennis for a few years. He probably thinks the advice he got from Roche & Higueras was nothing new to him and wouldn't make a difference. Maybe it wasn't, but when you did so much without one you probably think a coach can't make you do something that you couldn't do before. Ugh, I'm rambling. In short, he's got too much pride to have a coach. Good enough?

tennis_hand
03-11-2009, 09:33 PM
it is confirmed that cahill will not be his full time coach.