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Kobble
03-28-2009, 08:56 PM
Sad, but true from what I have seen. Last year I went to see Guga practice at Miami for the last time. Oddly, there were only like 10 people in the crowd watching him. I found it surprising. This year, I saw people flock to Nadal while, less people were there than last year to support Federer in practice. Kind of sad that people trade out on their favorite players. This year only like 5 people were watching Safin practice as well. From what I read, this is it for Safin, there will be no next year. Why people wouldn't soak it up while it is still there is beyond me.

Reminds me of when Apollo Creed (in Rocky IV) talked about once you step out of that ring it is like ancient history. Pointing out that nobody was asking for autographs, either. Kind of sad. I guess I don't get people. I once asked my mother when I was in college, if she wanted to go to an event (non-tennis) with me. I told her someone I know would be there and they are unlike anyone you have ever seen. She shrugged her shoulders like, no not really. Anyway, the next time I brought him up it was about me attending his funeral. She watched a video of him and regretted it. I'm like, yeah, I told you. You think I lie? She is now a fan of Nadal and Federer, but won't go and see them, because she hates the drive to Miami. She live 20 miles closer than I do. She is retired, has the time, and the money, but won't do it. Rather paint her house. I know it is coming. When Fed retires I'm going to hear it. I'm going to send her a condolense card next time.:) Anyway, just my rant

tahiti
03-29-2009, 01:41 AM
Familiarity breeds contempt? A true fan won't stop loving their favourite but new favourites arrive on the scene and nothing in life is better than variety and innovation. Gone with the old in with the new....natural isn't it? Though people do stay more faithful with age.

Leublu tennis
03-29-2009, 02:30 AM
Good point but it does not holf true for all people. Marat is my real favorite and will stay that way until he retires.

breadstick
03-29-2009, 02:45 AM
A lot of people's 'favourite player' is the player that is number one/wins the most.

ruerooo
03-29-2009, 02:54 AM
Sad, but true from what I have seen. Last year I went to see Guga practice at Miami for the last time. Oddly, there were only like 10 people in the crowd watching him. I found it surprising. This year, I saw people flock to Nadal while, less people were there than last year to support Federer in practice. Kind of sad that people trade out on their favorite players. This year only like 5 people were watching Safin practice as well. From what I read, this is it for Safin, there will be no next year. Why people wouldn't soak it up while it is still there is beyond me.

Reminds me of when Apollo Creed (in Rocky IV) talked about once you step out of that ring it is like ancient history. Pointing out that nobody was asking for autographs, either. Kind of sad. I guess I don't get people. I once asked my mother when I was in college, if she wanted to go to an event (non-tennis) with me. I told her someone I know would be there and they are unlike anyone you have ever seen. She shrugged her shoulders like, no not really. Anyway, the next time I brought him up it was about me attending his funeral. She watched a video of him and regretted it. I'm like, yeah, I told you. You think I lie? She is now a fan of Nadal and Federer, but won't go and see them, because she hates the drive to Miami. She live 20 miles closer than I do. She is retired, has the time, and the money, but won't do it. Rather paint her house. I know it is coming. When Fed retires I'm going to hear it. I'm going to send her a condolense card next time.:) Anyway, just my rant

If you see Marat,
1) please tell him we'll be waiting to see him when he comes to New York for the USO
2) please ask him if there's anything we can do (within reason! :D) to talk him into another year on the tour.

There are lots of us who feel like you do. My mom is the same way.
Do you think you can change your mom's mind before the final next weekend?
I talked my mom into coming to the USO with me and she finally admitted she would regret it if she didn't come and the house repairs could wait.
:D

BorisBeckerFan
03-29-2009, 03:05 AM
I myself am starting to turn my back on Fed but not for a new player but rather an old one. Pete Sampras. Out of all the current players Fed is my fave and continue to wish him well. Hoping to make the trip to the USO this year to see him play if work permits.

Gorecki
03-29-2009, 03:38 AM
there is people that watch Nadal practice?

mary fierce
03-29-2009, 03:20 PM
tahiti
familiarity doesn't breed contempt for the most part. Pro golfers, stock car racers, country music stars have the same fans for decades. Most likely, tennis fans tend to be younger with less completely formed egos, so they are more likely to want to identify with whomever seems more successful.

Mansewerz
03-29-2009, 03:29 PM
there is people that watch Nadal practice?

The OP didn't realize that they were actually sleeping.

Mansewerz
03-29-2009, 03:34 PM
I would kill to watch Safin or Federer play. I don't care if they're not dominating anymore, they're my two favorite on tour today. I would also love to see Agassi, Edberg, Sampras,etc. Borg too. Murray and Nadal also, but that's not what this thread is about.

Blinkism
03-29-2009, 03:35 PM
Not everyone @ Tennis tournaments is a hardcore fan, alot of people are casual fans and seeing the most popular player at the moment would be most interesting to them.

There's nothing wrong with that, they're not abandoning their heroes. Tennis is, above all, entertainment for the fans. If the old stars don't entertain as much, then people will look to newer stars. It's just supply and demand.

No need to get sentimental about it, you just need to realize 70%+ viewers and spectators of Tennis are casual fans just looking to see some good rallies and exciting matches.

JoshDragon
03-29-2009, 03:41 PM
Sad, but true from what I have seen. Last year I went to see Guga practice at Miami for the last time. Oddly, there were only like 10 people in the crowd watching him. I found it surprising. This year, I saw people flock to Nadal while, less people were there than last year to support Federer in practice. Kind of sad that people trade out on their favorite players. This year only like 5 people were watching Safin practice as well. From what I read, this is it for Safin, there will be no next year. Why people wouldn't soak it up while it is still there is beyond me.

Reminds me of when Apollo Creed (in Rocky IV) talked about once you step out of that ring it is like ancient history. Pointing out that nobody was asking for autographs, either. Kind of sad. I guess I don't get people. I once asked my mother when I was in college, if she wanted to go to an event (non-tennis) with me. I told her someone I know would be there and they are unlike anyone you have ever seen. She shrugged her shoulders like, no not really. Anyway, the next time I brought him up it was about me attending his funeral. She watched a video of him and regretted it. I'm like, yeah, I told you. You think I lie? She is now a fan of Nadal and Federer, but won't go and see them, because she hates the drive to Miami. She live 20 miles closer than I do. She is retired, has the time, and the money, but won't do it. Rather paint her house. I know it is coming. When Fed retires I'm going to hear it. I'm going to send her a condolense card next time.:) Anyway, just my rant

Well, for one thing a lot of casual tennis fans may not have heard much about Guga. Also, he's not the #1 guy and that's what the fans want to see. That's partly why there's so much excitement around Nadal right now. Two years ago it was all about Federer.

norbac
03-29-2009, 03:45 PM
Weird, I was at two Safin practice sessions last week at IW and they were both packed.

maverick66
03-29-2009, 03:50 PM
i would still watch guga train. people that didnt get a chance to see him up close have no idea how great he really was. he had the ability to do so much on a tennis court it was unreal.

but its the nature of the sports world. look at the boston redsox. years ago no one outside of boston really cared about them then they win 04 and everyone was a lifelong fan that is now part of red sox nation. people love a winner and unfortunatly when players get older and cant play anymore people stop caring.

DarthFed
03-29-2009, 04:00 PM
I would NEVER turn my back on fed, he got me into to tennis, turning my back on him is like a big "F you" to the sport

icedevil0289
03-29-2009, 04:02 PM
I would NEVER turn my back on fed, he got me into to tennis, turning my back on him is like a big "F you" to the sport

same here. Fed is what made me start watching and enjoying tennis. I would never turn my back on fed either, no matter what happens.

veroniquem
03-29-2009, 04:04 PM
there is people that watch Nadal practice?
There are even people who film it. You want links to the videos? :)

VivalaVida
03-29-2009, 04:09 PM
I would NEVER turn my back on fed, he got me into to tennis, turning my back on him is like a big "F you" to the sport
agreed. TMC 03 was what got me into tennis. Federer saving match point against agassi with a monster winner was amazing!

Bhagi Katbamna
03-29-2009, 08:18 PM
Not just tennis, but life is like that. When you are extremely happy, don't get carried away. Think that "this too will pass."

When you are extremely sad, think that "this too will pass."

mandy01
03-30-2009, 06:24 AM
same here. Fed is what made me start watching and enjoying tennis. I would never turn my back on fed either, no matter what happens.
Same here too..I adore Roger.I can never ever turn my back on him.Never loved a tennis player as much as I love Roger:)

mandy01
03-30-2009, 06:25 AM
same here. Fed is what made me start watching and enjoying tennis. I would never turn my back on fed either, no matter what happens.
Same here too..I adore Roger.I can never ever turn my back on him.Never loved a tennis player as much as I love Roger:)

mandy01
03-30-2009, 06:25 AM
same here. Fed is what made me start watching and enjoying tennis. I would never turn my back on fed either, no matter what happens.
BTW-You liked Agassi too right?

Gorecki
03-30-2009, 06:34 AM
There are even people who film it. You want links to the videos? :)

thanks. ill pass.. sticking to good old reliable Lunesta

nikdom
03-30-2009, 06:36 AM
I would NEVER turn my back on fed, he got me into to tennis, turning my back on him is like a big "F you" to the sport

Roger came as a breath of fresh air in 2002-03. I was a big Agassi fan before then, but you had to pick your majors to see him do well - Aussie Open, USO. There was no consistent brilliance in the field and too many clay-court specialists (Guga, Coria, Malisse etc). Hewitt's run at the top was forgettable. Always disliked Mr.Sampras and his game although I had to grudgingly give him respect for his winning ways.

Actually, you know what, thank god Roger happened! Tennis in general and the men's field is much better because of him now. I don't think Rafa or Murray or even Djokovic would have been the players they are now without a dominant Roger setting the bar at the top.

I think Roger's biggest legacy when he retires will be that he will leave the game in a much better place than when he started. He can singularly claim credit for re-igniting the passion of tennis lovers and winning new fans for the game all over the world.

pc1
03-30-2009, 06:42 AM
The nature of many is "What have you done for me lately?" so a player like Guga may be old news. A lot of it could be that people just don't think of him as much because he's not in the limelight anyone.

I have a hunch that if you saw John McEnroe practicing that you may have a larger crowd watching because he's always on television, whether it is on the Champions Tour or just commentating.

Federer is one of the all time greats and he has many fans so when he really goes down in level I think he still will be popular. Same with Nadal.

P_Agony
03-30-2009, 06:48 AM
People who turn their backs on their beloved players were not real fans in the first place. They were fans of ranking and prize money and trophies - not the player and his game. I, for one, will not abandon Roger even if he drops out of the top 100 and losses to Nadal a million times more. I like his game, not his ranking. Of course I prefer to see him winning rather than losing, but even if he doesn't - he is already my all-time favorite. Same goes for Gasquet of course, as he and Roger are my 2 favorites.

icedevil0289
03-30-2009, 06:59 AM
BTW-You liked Agassi too right?

yup, loved agassi and I like edberg too. I never saw edberg play, but I saw a lot youtube videos and I really like his style of play, plus he seems like a really classy guy.

RalphNYC
03-30-2009, 07:00 AM
Who cares? People do what they want, like who they like, then hate them later or don't care. Michael Jackson was pretty popular wasn't he? Easy come easy go. If you care what people think your life will be empty and meaningless. Great people will find meaning in their own acts, their own accomplishments, their own journey.

icedevil0289
03-30-2009, 07:09 AM
Who cares? People do what they want, like who they like, then hate them later or don't care. Michael Jackson was pretty popular wasn't he? Easy come easy go. If you care what people think your life will be empty and meaningless. Great people will find meaning in their own acts, their own accomplishments, their own journey.

hmmm, thats true. Oddly enough, I still love michael jackson. I know, call me crazy.

RalphNYC
03-30-2009, 09:20 AM
hmmm, thats true. Oddly enough, I still love michael jackson. I know, call me crazy.

Beat it! Just beat it!

bluetrain4
03-30-2009, 09:35 AM
Jumping on and off the bandwagon is as old as sports itself.

Every champion has his or her diehard fans and also has a bunch of bandwagoneers.

P_Agony
03-30-2009, 09:39 AM
Beat it! Just beat it!

Ha ha :-P:-P

Funny post.

icedevil0289
03-30-2009, 10:02 AM
Beat it! Just beat it!

hahahaha. nice

koalakoala
03-30-2009, 07:22 PM
Roger came as a breath of fresh air in 2002-03. I was a big Agassi fan before then, but you had to pick your majors to see him do well - Aussie Open, USO. There was no consistent brilliance in the field and too many clay-court specialists (Guga, Coria, Malisse etc). Hewitt's run at the top was forgettable. Always disliked Mr.Sampras and his game although I had to grudgingly give him respect for his winning ways.

Actually, you know what, thank god Roger happened! Tennis in general and the men's field is much better because of him now. I don't think Rafa or Murray or even Djokovic would have been the players they are now without a dominant Roger setting the bar at the top.

I think Roger's biggest legacy when he retires will be that he will leave the game in a much better place than when he started. He can singularly claim credit for re-igniting the passion of tennis lovers and winning new fans for the game all over the world.

Agree...one of his biggest legacies...

koalakoala
03-30-2009, 07:25 PM
hmmm, thats true. Oddly enough, I still love michael jackson. I know, call me crazy.

I love Michael Jackson as well. He is an amazing dancer.

I heard that he is not so popular with his countrymen, Americans...now he chose UK to base his last concerts.

RoddickAce
03-30-2009, 07:40 PM
Familiarity breeds contempt? A true fan won't stop loving their favourite but new favourites arrive on the scene and nothing in life is better than variety and innovation. Gone with the old in with the new....natural isn't it? Though people do stay more faithful with age.

Nice point, diminishing marginal utility...

ruerooo
03-30-2009, 08:52 PM
BTW-You liked Agassi too right?

I would absolutely go to see Andre if he decided to play Masters tours. He's adamantly said that he won't, but despite all he's doing for charity and with his school and the Adidas training program, I keep hoping he'll change his mind.

Some thoughtful comments coming out in this post.

icedevil0289
03-30-2009, 09:07 PM
I would definitely love to see Agassi play again. I hear he is playing the outback series. Here's the link: http://www.championsseriestennis.com/nls/agassi/3_9_09.htm