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Monkey D Luffy
03-29-2009, 06:50 PM
1st thing I knoticed, I walk like a penguin..... wtf right???
We are playing point here




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npc21Hgqo1E

aeu10
03-29-2009, 07:50 PM
I guess it's the way you walk.. kinda like pigeon toe but the complete opposite

LeeD
03-30-2009, 09:11 AM
Agassi walks wierd too...
Forget your walk and shorten your backswing. NO pro uses such a long backswing, as it forces your weight backwards and you hit off your backfoot.
If you need lots of racketspeed, you can use more wrist and elbow bend to get the fast loop, but your armloop has to be shortened to allow you to hit against harder hitters at the 4.0 level.

Djokovicfan4life
03-30-2009, 09:31 AM
Agassi walks wierd too...
Forget your walk and shorten your backswing. NO pro uses such a long backswing, as it forces your weight backwards and you hit off your backfoot.
If you need lots of racketspeed, you can use more wrist and elbow bend to get the fast loop, but your armloop has to be shortened to allow you to hit against harder hitters at the 4.0 level.

These guys are just rallying, but I think they're at the 4.0 level right now, based on this video.

BTW, Gonzalez blasts forehands with a monstrous backswing. Last time I checked, he's a 7.0.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFibX-inICg

Now the advice itself is good, and the OP would be wise to shorten his backswing to where the hitting hand stays on the right side of the body.

The wrist and elbow bend stuff is a load of garbage. His wrist is loose enough to where he's getting plenty of RHS, and whether the hitting arm is bent or not does not determine RHS either. Verdasco, Federer, Nadal, Safin, and many others hit with a relatively straight arm, completely straight actually, in Verdasco's case.

Are you saying that they aren't getting enough racquet head speed? I guess Nadal's forehands would be topspining themselves into orbit by now with a bent elbow!

Matt

EikelBeiter
03-30-2009, 09:36 AM
Agassi walks wierd too...
Forget your walk and shorten your backswing. NO pro uses such a long backswing, as it forces your weight backwards and you hit off your backfoot.
If you need lots of racketspeed, you can use more wrist and elbow bend to get the fast loop, but your armloop has to be shortened to allow you to hit against harder hitters at the 4.0 level.

there's nothing wrong with his backswing m8.

look at ancic forehand backswing, it's twice as long http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dgK7sxde8

not saying that he has the best forehand or whatever, but it proves your "NO pro uses such a long backswing" wrong

sureshs
03-30-2009, 10:26 AM
1st thing I knoticed, I walk like a penguin..... wtf right???
We are playing point here




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npc21Hgqo1E

It might be a genetic thing. My grandmother, me and my son tend to walk with feet pointing outwards and sideways. I have reduced it by conscious practice and trying to get my son to do the same.

chico9166
04-02-2009, 03:41 AM
1st thing I knoticed, I walk like a penguin..... wtf right???
We are playing point here




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npc21Hgqo1E

Hi Monkey,

Role the clip, and stop the action at 0:16. It's kind of tough with youtube, but try and stop it when you've achieved your final prep stage, at the top of the backswing, before the racquet drop. You'll know that you've paused it at the correct time if the hitting face of the racquet is pointed towards the back fence. This will be the area of focus.

First of all, there is alot to like about the positions you've achieved at this stage in the swing. The shoulders are turned past 90 degrees, with the left arm stretched acrossed the chest. Your right elbow is "kicked out", and the tip of the racqet is pointed more forward than backward. This allows you to make this deep shoulder turn, without losing the racquet and hand behind your right shoulder plane---- a real good thing.

Your posture is perfect, withh the shoulders up, and the weight loaded nicely on the right leg. You might want to "sit" a little more at this stage, but you should have no problem redirecting your momentum.

An area of concern though, is the postion of the racquet at this final prep stage. You basically, have the racquet inverted, or flipped upside down. Which means that from the ready position, with the racquet on edge, the top edge has now become the bottom edge. So essentially, as you've stepped through the unit turn, and into the backswing, you've pronated, or turned your thumb down slightly. Can you see how your thumb is turned down, and the hitting face of the racquet if now facing the back fence?

INverting the racquet is not a necessarily a bad thing. But to have it this inverted, this late in the swing (as the racquet is beginning to drop) is generally not a good idea. And here is why. From this thumb down postion, your going to have to rotate your forearm substantially to attain a suppinated postition (like holding a cup of soup) as you transition from downswing to forward swing. In your video, (in real time) this transition stage, is very abrubt, almost violent, as you turn the swing around. Surely, this can not be a good thing it terms of quality contact, being able to take the ball a little earlier, or adjust to the different speeds and spins in tennis.


My suggestioin would be this. At the top of the backswing, try and get your palm to point down, and then just let the racquet fall from there. You wont have to rotate your forearm so much, to set up the correct hitting arm structure as you transition into the foreward swing.

H. Ju
04-02-2009, 09:37 AM
Work on your footing. It seems that you tend to jump when you are hitting the ball. Virtually you jump when you are making the forehand shots. DO NOT jump. Plant your feet on the ground and use shoulder and core rotation when hitting the ball. Your backhand looks much more better to me becuase you are not moving (or jumping) when you are hitting the ball. backhand).

LeeD
04-02-2009, 10:38 AM
Ancic appears to have a long backswing because he is giant sized TALL.
OP is a short guy, trying to employ basically the same length backswing, and it takes him onto his backfoot every time....and moving backwards.
Eikels, I know you like to argue, but considering the SIZE difference and the skill level of the players, you lose again.
And DJ.... if you consider them 4.0's, then maybe your standards are different than mine.....very different.
They look practiced 3.5 at best, strokes only now, and we can't consider actual match skills, but considering the age, maybe only 3.5 at best period.

Jaewonnie
04-02-2009, 12:39 PM
walking doesnt matter too much as long you can move to the ball comfortablly. and btw NICE forhands