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abudhabi tennis
03-30-2009, 10:00 AM
Service: Serve to his backhand from Ad and Deuce courts. Expect a straight return and kill it. Anything else and you can expect a return to your weaker backhand side

Volley: Contrary to recent threads Nadal is weak in volleys. he actually volleys and wins points any novice is guranteed to win. Draw him to the net and he can volley at all.

Return Of Serve: To Nadals backhand. And Nadals Second Serve-- Just step in and kill it.

Nadals Weakness: Is actually his backhand. High Loopy spins to his backhand , continously pepper his backhand and draw him out of court on backhand side---The UFe will rise. Shown by Simon in madrid and Murray in USO.

Run Nadal around the court, he wont have time for those forehand loopy shots.

deltox
03-30-2009, 10:13 AM
Nadals Weakness: Is actually his backhand. High Loopy spins to his backhand , continously pepper his backhand and draw him out of court on backhand side---The UFe will rise. Shown by Simon in madrid and Murray in USO.



I dont like Nadal AT ALL.. but his backhand is NOT a weakness.

In D Zone
03-30-2009, 10:15 AM
Easier said than done! Madrid was the past.... fast forward to present Indian Wells and now Miami.

One forgets Nadal has excellent defensive skills and knows how and when to use bh slice to change the pace.

Volley - Nadal does not need to be a great at volley. He has the wheels and the speed run down volleys and passing shots. Nadal has improved his all court play and can switched from playing baseline into the net at will or when he needs to. He knows when to use this tactic to his advantage is the key.

If Nadal BH is weak - Murray should have killed him in Indian Wells - Well, it was the contrary. Nadal totally over powered Murray!!!! Both played in a tough windy condition - Nadal held his own.
Lastly - Nadal's tenacity and believe in winning at every point.

Right now - Nadal is in the zone; similar when Federer had that great run. they are untouchable. Only thing to defeat Nadal is his physical health - knee in particular from all the hard pounding from playing in hard surface.

eagle
03-30-2009, 10:19 AM
Let's send this newsflash to Fed and the rest of the field asap!

Nadal and Uncle Tony will now be scrambling and go back to the drawing board to find a new way to win. Perhaps insane underspin vs. topspin or using the 2-handle Natural racquet with a jump serve. :)

The only way to beat Nadal these days is if he is having a bad day, he gets injured, or if Tonya Harding clubs his knees. :)

r,
eagle

henryshli
03-30-2009, 10:28 AM
Just be consistent at the back of the court and be able to come in at the right time. That's all it takes.

helloworld
03-30-2009, 10:35 AM
Nadal's backhand is far more solid than Fed's backhand. The bashing backhand plan is not going to work. In fact, you have to hit a hard flat groundstrokes to his forehand side to get weak replies, but this plan is very risky because one short ball to his forehand side, and the point is gone.

RoddickAce
03-30-2009, 10:41 AM
Loop to the backhand, flat to the forehand, seems like the only thing that might work. Going to net even with a decent approach shot is like suicide against nadal.

edmondsm
03-30-2009, 10:41 AM
Play the drop shot...a lot. Nadal still hangs out well behind the baseline. Why not put the idea in his head that you can play a dropper at any point in a rally? He's certainly not as comfy at net as he is on the baseline, so wouldn't you want to get him there as much as possible?

maverick66
03-30-2009, 10:47 AM
Play the drop shot...a lot. Nadal still hangs out well behind the baseline. Why not put the idea in his head that you can play a dropper at any point in a rally? He's certainly not as comfy at net as he is on the baseline, so wouldn't you want to get him there as much as possible?

problem is he is extremely fast and volleys very well. so your setting yourself up to be off the court quickly especially if he starts reading it. on top of that try hitting droppers off of his spin. its close to impossible to do it consistently. the guy right now is just in another level than everyone else. its like federer was the last few years before nadal really started winning on different surfaces. its easy to say how you could counter it but almost impossible to pull it off.

ChuDat
03-30-2009, 10:52 AM
I would say hit flats, serve out wide, keep him behind the baseline then go for the drop.

Telepatic
03-30-2009, 11:51 AM
Volleys, drop shots are good against him.

helloworld
03-30-2009, 11:53 AM
The drop shot seems to work well against Nadal, but the problem is hitting a drop shot against super heavy topspin groundstrokes is not an easy thing to do...

Fedace
03-30-2009, 12:04 PM
Service: Serve to his backhand from Ad and Deuce courts. Expect a straight return and kill it. Anything else and you can expect a return to your weaker backhand side

Volley: Contrary to recent threads Nadal is weak in volleys. he actually volleys and wins points any novice is guranteed to win. Draw him to the net and he can volley at all.

Return Of Serve: To Nadals backhand. And Nadals Second Serve-- Just step in and kill it.

Nadals Weakness: Is actually his backhand. High Loopy spins to his backhand , continously pepper his backhand and draw him out of court on backhand side---The UFe will rise. Shown by Simon in madrid and Murray in USO.

Run Nadal around the court, he wont have time for those forehand loopy shots.

How much is Roger paying you for such wonderful advices ??:)

RalphNYC
03-30-2009, 12:13 PM
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rich01
03-30-2009, 12:16 PM
Give him a K90.

Andyk028
03-30-2009, 03:25 PM
Let's send this newsflash to Fed and the rest of the field asap!

Nadal and Uncle Tony will now be scrambling and go back to the drawing board to find a new way to win. Perhaps insane underspin vs. topspin or using the 2-handle Natural racquet with a jump serve. :)

The only way to beat Nadal these days is if he is having a bad day, he gets injured, or if Tonya Harding clubs his knees. :)

r,
eagle

Cheers!

people on this forum actually believe they understand how to play against the pro's

quest01
03-30-2009, 03:36 PM
Give him a K90.

That would only make Nadal's opponent play worse.

Nadal_Freak
03-30-2009, 03:43 PM
This is the worst Nadal strategy yet. Backhand is his weakness? Lmao

ls206
03-30-2009, 03:49 PM
The way to win requires a strong mental game more than anything.
I watched Nalbadian tear Nadal to pieces recently, but as soon as he was under pressure his game fell apart and he lost without putting up a fight.

P_Agony
03-30-2009, 03:52 PM
How to beat Nadal: Play like Nalbandian, minus the choking.

Nadal_Freak
03-30-2009, 03:54 PM
How to beat Nadal: Play like Nalbandian, minus the choking.
Which means taking the ball early both sides and being able to hit crosscourt and down the line on both sides without giving it away where you're going with it. That is the strategy to deal with Nadal right there.

AT92292
03-30-2009, 03:56 PM
Rafa completely rips his backhand its his forehand thats weaker and more attackable. I know its old but if u look at highlights of the matches hes lost to Berdych or Blake he keeps tryign get a ton of topspin on his fhand and it goes short and they kill it

Nadal_Freak
03-30-2009, 03:58 PM
Rafa completely rips his backhand its his forehand thats weaker and more attackable. I know its old but if u look at highlights of the matches hes lost to Berdych or Blake he keeps tryign get a ton of topspin on his fhand and it goes short and they kill it
Nadal has no weak side. His positioning should be determining where you are going with it. Both sides are solid as a rock in different ways.

eagle
03-30-2009, 03:58 PM
people on this forum actually believe they understand how to play against the pro's

All pro coaches like Cahill, Stefanski, Roach, and others should subscribe to threads like this. Their approach and strategy based on on-court experience, countless hours of analysis, tennis knowledge, and instincts are just plain ineffective and inept. No wonder they get fired. :)

r,
eagle

quest01
03-30-2009, 05:18 PM
The only way to beat Nadal is by slipping some ex-lax in his drinks.

breadstick
03-30-2009, 05:47 PM
Hit heaps of slice and hit flatter to keep the ball closer to the ground so he shanks his forehand more.

Nadal_Freak
03-30-2009, 05:48 PM
Hit heaps of slice and hit flatter to keep the ball closer to the ground so he shanks his forehand more.
Slices don't work against Nadal. He usually slices back with his backhand and can attack with his forehand off slices. Flat shots definitely are the best option as Nadal feels rushed more.

Lendl and Federer Fan
03-30-2009, 05:51 PM
When you play against Nadal, should feel no pressure and just let your game fly; kind of like that feeling on a good day, you wish your opponent can just keep feeding you the balls nonstop. :)

caulcano
03-31-2009, 04:08 AM
Service: Serve to his backhand from Ad and Deuce courts. Expect a straight return and kill it. Anything else and you can expect a return to your weaker backhand side

Volley: Contrary to recent threads Nadal is weak in volleys. he actually volleys and wins points any novice is guranteed to win. Draw him to the net and he can volley at all.

Return Of Serve: To Nadals backhand. And Nadals Second Serve-- Just step in and kill it.

Nadals Weakness: Is actually his backhand. High Loopy spins to his backhand , continously pepper his backhand and draw him out of court on backhand side---The UFe will rise. Shown by Simon in madrid and Murray in USO.

Run Nadal around the court, he wont have time for those forehand loopy shots.

Nadal loves to take his time to crank up the BH/FH with as much topspin as he can get.

So I'd go with, hitting it straight at him (probably down the middle) as hard/fast as possible.

caulcano
03-31-2009, 04:11 AM
Hit heaps of slice and hit flatter to keep the ball closer to the ground so he shanks his forehand more.

I don't think any kind of slice will work because it just gives Nadal time to hit the heavy top-spin.

ruerooo
03-31-2009, 04:50 AM
How to beat Nadal: Play like Nalbandian, minus the choking.

Pretty much.

And I really don't think that's as easy as it sounds, as even David himself can't (won't?) always do it.