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Nadal_Freak
03-31-2009, 09:04 PM
It seems Miami has sped up their courts. Much harder to break. They seem pretty close to the speed of the US Open. Just my observation based on this weeks action.

EtePras
03-31-2009, 09:29 PM
Funny, Nadal hasn't even lost a set yet and you're already making excuses for him.

Nadal_Freak
03-31-2009, 09:31 PM
Funny, Nadal hasn't even lost a set yet and you're already making excuses for him.
Where did I make an excuse for him? Can't I make observations without someone making rude comments like this?

fedfan
03-31-2009, 09:35 PM
Where did I make an excuse for him? Can't I make observations without someone making rude comments like this?

what he's just making an observation of your observation.

Nadal_Freak
03-31-2009, 09:36 PM
what he's just making an observation of your observation.
Players have said it to. I believe Dent said it and he is a serve and volleyer. Why do the trolls come into my thread first? Uh.

Blinkism
03-31-2009, 09:41 PM
Funny, Nadal hasn't even lost a set yet and you're already making excuses for him.

It's funny, actually, that Murray, out of the top 4 seeds, is the only one who's lost a set so far and he hasn't even played a seeded player yet!

Nadal's had 2 tough matches, and Djoko + Fed have cruised to the QF's.

But now's when the going gets tough, and every player left in the draw is pretty adept when it comes to Hard Courts so I don't think it'll favour anyone heavily, but players like Roddick, Tsonga, and maybe Verdasco will probably be more at ease with their power games. But otherwise, I do agree Miami is looking faster than IW, even though it's hotter and more humid in Miami (maybe that's why they sped up the courts?).

deltox
03-31-2009, 09:42 PM
nadal said it was slower due to the humidity in his after match interview

Tennis_Bum
03-31-2009, 09:55 PM
nadal said it was slower due to the humidity in his after match interview

May be he lied. You can't believe anything or everything Nadal says. You have to take it with a grain of salt.

ESP#1
03-31-2009, 09:58 PM
I've gotten the impression that they are fast also, interestingly enough I haven't noticed a high ace count on any of the players with big serves, players do seem to be holding serve with relative ease from the matches I've seen and Lopez was playing well usually a sign of faster courts

tahiti
04-01-2009, 12:36 AM
It seems Miami has sped up their courts. Much harder to break. They seem pretty close to the speed of the US Open. Just my observation based on this weeks action.

I would have thought that humidity would have made it slower. I'm not sure if they're faster. On another note, just ignore EtePras and Fedfan. They're new, come in here and want to quickly jump on the bandwagon. to gain recognition or have the right to post insulting posts. Your posts of late Nadal_Freak have been fine and those who have the good manners to read posts in their entirety before judging judging on something they've read in the past, now they are the posts that are worth responding to. :)

Safinator_1
04-01-2009, 02:28 AM
Players have said it to. I believe Dent said it and he is a serve and volleyer. Why do the trolls come into my thread first? Uh.

Sorry to say but it looks like your public enemy #1 to Fed fans so any thread started by you would garner their attention. To your thread i believe courts do seem a bit faster but that confuses me that their have not been a high rate of aces from the regular big servers, perhaps the defences of every player has changed to adjust the high rate of aces :S

vtmike
04-01-2009, 03:05 AM
May be he lied. You can't believe anything or everything Nadal says. You have to take it with a grain of salt.

So he doesn't mean it when he says Fed is the greatest of all time in all his interviews? :confused:

Tennis_Bum
04-02-2009, 10:05 AM
So he doesn't mean it when he says Fed is the greatest of all time in all his interviews? :confused:

That's right, perhaps he doesn't mean it. You can't believe everything these guys say. If you do, that's sad.

P_Agony
04-02-2009, 12:08 PM
Where did I make an excuse for him? Can't I make observations without someone making rude comments like this?

For once I agree with you, your post was perfectly fine IMO.

tkramer15
04-02-2009, 05:32 PM
There was a post last week discussing the speeds of the Miami courts versus Indian Wells. While it does seem the courts are playing somewhat faster, meaning the ball is skipping through the court more, I think the heavier, more humid air counteracts that effect to a degree. It's really the exact opposite at Indian Wells, where the ball flies through the air more easily because of the thin, dry desert air, but the surface is notoriously very slow and high bouncing. It's difficult to tell how these things affect different players, but I will agree that the big serving, flatter hitters seem to be a bit more comfortable in Miami despite the heavier conditions. I remember Sampras talking about how he often had a tough time getting comfortable at Indian Wells because the balls would fly in the thin air. Federer mentioned something to the same effect in a post-match interview the other night.

oneguy21
04-02-2009, 05:52 PM
That explains Nadal's loss. I don't think I've ever seen him make that many UEs. But of course, JMDP deserves some of the credit.

obnoxious2
04-02-2009, 05:57 PM
Courts don't seem that fast IMO. As soon as the ball bounces, it doesn't skid out farther like a really fast court such as at the US Open should. It seems to slow down a hell lot more.

drakulie
04-02-2009, 05:58 PM
It seems Miami has sped up their courts. Much harder to break. They seem pretty close to the speed of the US Open. Just my observation based on this weeks action.

The nights in Miami seem a little darker than last year.

Nadal_Freak
04-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Courts don't seem that fast IMO. As soon as the ball bounces, it doesn't skid out farther like a really fast court such as at the US Open should. It seems to slow down a hell lot more.
It doesn't jump up either. It just sits there. Humidity will do that. I think conditions like this favor the flat ball hitters. Defensive players find it tougher to defend when their shots sit up nicely for the other player rather then jumping rapidly at them.

deltox
04-02-2009, 06:04 PM
most flat hitters wont "tee off" unless the ball is relatively net height or higher which is why slices are so effective against their offensive weapons.

Nadal_Freak
04-02-2009, 06:09 PM
most flat hitters wont "tee off" unless the ball is relatively net height or higher which is why slices are so effective against their offensive weapons.
Yeah Nadal forgot how to slice in this match. A sign his game was off. Not just the conditions though Nadal was sweating a lot.

oneguy21
04-02-2009, 06:15 PM
Hope the court speed will help Federer win this thing.

Lendl and Federer Fan
04-02-2009, 09:38 PM
Funny, Nadal hasn't even lost a set yet and you're already making excuses for him.

It seems Miami has sped up their courts. Much harder to break. They seem pretty close to the speed of the US Open. Just my observation based on this weeks action.



Buddy, Nadal_Freak is pretty good at anticipating Nadal's eventual defeat there. Boy, I wish he can pick some stocks for me. :grin::wink::lol:

Josherer
04-02-2009, 09:43 PM
Funny, Nadal hasn't even lost a set yet and you're already making excuses for him.

How was that an excuse you idiot?

I agree Nadal Freak. Seems alot faster than last.

Josherer
04-02-2009, 09:45 PM
Yeah Nadal forgot how to slice in this match. A sign his game was off. Not just the conditions though Nadal was sweating a lot.

Nadal was crazily fatigued. He remined me of the Nadal of two years ago who would just get everything back.

Unlike usual he was dictating play and considering what he has accomplished this year alone he defaintly needs/deserves a rest.

kimbahpnam
04-02-2009, 09:46 PM
Hope the court speed will help Federer win this thing.

Your avatar and your post create quite the paradox

Josherer
04-02-2009, 10:01 PM
Your avatar and your post create quite the paradox

Some people, like myself, don't just like one player and hate everyone else...

It is actually possible to admire more than one player and have more than one favourite.