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Staiger
04-01-2009, 04:29 AM
does anyone know any pro in the top 100 still hit their forehand using an eastern grip ? I know Fish is one of the few that still does i..and that maybe why he is pretty inconsistent on that side ? Anyone else ????

MarrratSafin
04-01-2009, 04:32 AM
Gasquet and Stepanek? And Gasquet's forehand is pretty bad compared to his backhand as well.

EtePras
04-01-2009, 08:29 AM
Nobody good. Even the one handed backhand has more users than the eastern forehand.

roddickrulz
04-01-2009, 08:32 AM
doesn't federer hit with an eastern grip

Xuxa Kuerten
04-01-2009, 10:24 AM
Stepanek is closer to a continental grip on is forehand than everyone else.

Ancic uses eastern. Federer uses a very effective extreme-eastern, something in between an eastern and a semi-western grip.

I guess the grip has little to do with the consistency of the stroke, at least when we're talking about players on this level. It's more connected with the confidence and subsequently with how late you stroke the ball. Kafelnikov could play on high level on all courts, and he had a very consistent eastern forehand (despite being weird). Sampras had one of the best forehands of the history of the game, and he played with an eastern grip. I've asked to the former coach of brazilian Thomaz Bellucci about how much his very unorthodox full western forehand (5) would prejudice him. He said that if he feels comfortable with it, so it won't. And in fact he has a very powerful and paced forehand, despite this grip.

Mansewerz
04-01-2009, 10:25 AM
Does Del Potro have an Eastern forehand?

Jonny S&V
04-01-2009, 10:33 AM
Gasquet?

No, semi. Turns the wrist so it looks like an eastern when he prepares though:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02aZcgNfV6dyK/610x.jpg

doesn't federer hit with an eastern grip

Extreme eastern to semi-western, depending on the situation.

Ancic uses eastern.

Actually a semi-western, sometimes closer to a western.

http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/Player_Profiles/ATP_Photo_Galleries/Mario_Ancic/2007_02_21_ancic_5.jpg

Does Del Potro have an Eastern forehand?

No, semi-western:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04cy8AB6MK8vS/610x.jpg

Xuxa Kuerten
04-01-2009, 11:03 AM
No, semi. Turns the wrist so it looks like an eastern when he prepares though:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02aZcgNfV6dyK/610x.jpg



Extreme eastern to semi-western, depending on the situation.



Actually a semi-western, sometimes closer to a western.

http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/Player_Profiles/ATP_Photo_Galleries/Mario_Ancic/2007_02_21_ancic_5.jpg



No, semi-western:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04cy8AB6MK8vS/610x.jpg

Ancic, like Federer, varies his grip from Eastern to a mild form of semi-western. Take a look at how his knuckle is on position 3 in this photo:

http://www.yonex.de/uploads/pics/Mario_Ancic_00.jpg

Del Potro's hand is on 3.5 is this photo, so I think it's not totally semi-western. Take a look at any photo of Kuerten's forehand, it's always on 4. Maybe the argentinean varies his grip as well.

Staiger
04-01-2009, 03:30 PM
It looks like Ancic vary his forehand grips , that might explain his weak forehand

Mansewerz
04-01-2009, 03:36 PM
No, semi. Turns the wrist so it looks like an eastern when he prepares though:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02aZcgNfV6dyK/610x.jpg



Extreme eastern to semi-western, depending on the situation.



Actually a semi-western, sometimes closer to a western.

http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/Player_Profiles/ATP_Photo_Galleries/Mario_Ancic/2007_02_21_ancic_5.jpg



No, semi-western:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04cy8AB6MK8vS/610x.jpg

I respectfully disagree on Gasquet. His contact point is late, just like an eastern. I often times wondered if it was continental.

orangettecoleman
04-01-2009, 10:45 PM
this is continental
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04pL6k23xJbB1/610x.jpg

this is eastern
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/1267938.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DDEB62F6FA321551 9930FDCFC4C15FBB

this is semi-western
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/TIRAD/TIRad_Agassi.GIF

no current pro uses a continental forehand grip, no pro uses a pure eastern forehand grip except maybe hyung taik-lee.
the grips start at extreme eastern (federer, gasquet, fish) and get more western from there.

orangettecoleman
04-01-2009, 10:47 PM
http://www2.tennisserver.com/images/photofeed/2007/legg-mason/070802/Roddick-Stepanek/Legg.Mason-20070802-2665.jpg
that is not anything close to continental.

Beacon Hill
04-01-2009, 11:07 PM
An eastern forehand is a "shake hands" grip. No one in these pictures is doing that.

Blade0324
04-02-2009, 07:15 PM
No one still using a eastern or continental grip. It's just not practicle in today's game. SW is the majority.

Xuxa Kuerten
04-02-2009, 07:32 PM
http://www2.tennisserver.com/images/photofeed/2007/legg-mason/070802/Roddick-Stepanek/Legg.Mason-20070802-2665.jpg
that is not anything close to continental.

Just to clarify, I've never mentioned that Stepanek uses Continental grip or that his grip is close to Continental. I guess the player with most eastern forehand on the last 15 years were Sampras and Kafelnikov. Yevgeny in fact sometimes on low balls used a 2.5 grip (assuming Continental is 2). What I've said is that Stepanek's grip is closer to continental than the majority of players. He does use a 3 on low balls and 3.5 on the rest. It's quite unusual to see two players hitting a ball with the very same grip, and many of them widely regarded as "semi-westerners" changes their grips many times and do not use grip on position 4 as often as players like Agassi or Kuerten.

S H O W S T O P P E R !
04-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Mardy Fish does, I think.

orangettecoleman
04-02-2009, 09:33 PM
Does Del Potro have an Eastern forehand?

I did notice during the Nadal match that his forehand looks pretty close to a textbook eastern- although open-stance. it would make sense for a guy of his height, it's not like he has to worry about hitting a lot of groundstrokes above shoulder height anyway...

Drago
08-07-2009, 05:01 PM
Federer and Dimitrov both use eastern forehand grip.
One of the oldest and youngest players on ATP.

LES
08-07-2009, 05:17 PM
How can anyone hit a FH with conti. Seems so weird

stanfordtennis alum
08-07-2009, 05:26 PM
stepanek, gasquet... what grip does karlovic use?

Jonny S&V
08-07-2009, 05:28 PM
stepanek, gasquet... what grip does karlovic use?

A semi-western I'm pretty sure...

VivalaVida
08-07-2009, 05:29 PM
Lol. The grips in the pics look similar to feds but god forbid Federer hit with a extreme eastern or SW. :lol:

smack that
08-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Federer and Dimitrov both use eastern forehand grip.
One of the oldest and youngest players on ATP.

Dimitrov uses western or something close to it

TennisNinja
08-07-2009, 05:43 PM
Wow, Del Potro looks kind of like Wolverine in that picture.

Gasquetrules
08-07-2009, 07:27 PM
ITF:

Stop the mendaciouis BS.

Let Gasquet play!

NamRanger
08-07-2009, 08:47 PM
Berdych, Bjorkman, and Tsonga all use eastern or grips very close to it.

_maxi
08-12-2009, 12:03 PM
Dimitrov uses western or something close to it
Nop, he uses eastern.

http://championships.wimbledon.org/images/pics/thumbs/t_06_dimitrov_09_prosport_b_queenborough.jpg

http://z.hubpages.com/u/1249048_f520.jpg

sacha_v
08-12-2009, 12:36 PM
Verdasco ?

aviramdj
11-27-2009, 01:28 AM
i checked over and over.
And trust me i know my tennis and del potro seems to hit eastern .
But i guess its cause of his height, cause his tecnique looks like a semi tecnique but apperantly his height made him go to the eastern .

MasturB
11-27-2009, 01:57 AM
People think Delpo uses eastern because it doesn't look like he generates topspin and smashes every forehand he hits.

I'm very curious about Fed.

Sometimes in some slow mo's it lookes like he's using semi-western, then sometimes it looks like he's using eastern.

spacediver
11-27-2009, 08:57 AM
according to will hamilton, federer of 2009 uses an eastern forehand grip:

http://www.fuzzyyellowballs.com/trying-to-pick-the-right-forehand-grip-let-roger-federer-help-you/

AM95
11-27-2009, 09:13 AM
Extreme eastern to semi-western, depending on the situation.

Federer has a variety, although im pretty sure he uses eastern when he wants go flat, semi western when he wants a bit more spin and when balls around around his shoulder area or below his knees, and extreme eastern with high topsin balls (like above his head).

http://sportoftennis.com/images/capt.a3a32e66f93240398a87ddd2f50318fa.rogers_cup_t ennis_ajw106.jpg

theres the semi western on the top spin ball

http://s3.tinypic.com/27y4pbq.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/tennis/1/5/g/C/federer-forehand-off-back-foot.jpg

more semi westerns i think...
http://www.egesport.ch/images/federer1.jpg

eastern i think..not 100% sure



forgive me with the pictures..im not 100% grip savy

also..i think that fuzzyyellowballs dude said that federer of 2009 uses a eastern grip...

MasturB
11-28-2009, 03:12 AM
I think Roger uses semi-western on low balls, and balls where he's going toe to toe on the baseline.

Seems like he uses eastern a lot on rallies where he's beyond the baseline. Only time I've seen Roger use extreme eastern inside the baseline is a high bouncer he hits flat through the court.

makenakai
11-29-2009, 06:08 PM
All grips have advantages and disadvantages. Players change grips in situations depending.
Continental FH is weak high, its made for old school grass scoopers, but great for BH.
Eastern great for flat drives. JMDP and Fed use Eastern when hitting flat kills . Check swing path, flight and bounce (if camera angle is right) .
SemiW or FullW to create and handle top spin.
extreme Western (called the Hawaiian grip by Mac) is for clay only.
Saves, Squash, Tweeners, need to be eastern of even continental (low scoopers).

Buckethead
11-29-2009, 06:17 PM
this is continental
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04pL6k23xJbB1/610x.jpg

this is eastern
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/1267938.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DDEB62F6FA321551 9930FDCFC4C15FBB

this is semi-western
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/TIRAD/TIRad_Agassi.GIF

no current pro uses a continental forehand grip, no pro uses a pure eastern forehand grip except maybe hyung taik-lee.
the grips start at extreme eastern (federer, gasquet, fish) and get more western from there.

Stepanek uses continental grip,go ask darren cahill if you don't believe.
Federer eastern.
Ancic doesn't play anymore.He is working as a lawyer in Croatia.

Love Anet
12-07-2012, 06:07 AM
There's degrees of grips. You can be in between a SW and eastern for example. Players may also vary their grip at times.

Just looking at it and going on initial impressions isn't accurate.

A key indicator is where the tip of the index finger is in relation to the wide bevel.

Gasquet is almost all the way across so that's a true SW. What confuses people with him is rather than twisting the racket handle to select the SW, he actually keeps it still and slides his hand around instead. This means on the take back the racket head is at an angle you would expect for a continental. Also, on a continental follow thru the strings are pointed down,not to the side fence as is the case with Gasquet.

Del Potro is just on the large bevel so that is a true Eastern.

Mcenroe is not quite on so this is continental but slightly towards Eastern.

Agassi is a bit past Del Potro but not as much as Gasquet so it's a conservative SW. His follow thru is further evidence it is not a true SW.

Federer I'd say is an extreme eastern, a millimeter further and it would be the same as Agassi.

brettsticker86
12-07-2012, 12:44 PM
pretty sure gasquet uses an eastern...del po, i havn't paid too close attention too, altho at a glance it looks eastern

Jonny S&V
12-10-2012, 06:02 PM
pretty sure gasquet uses an eastern...del po, i havn't paid too close attention too, altho at a glance it looks eastern

Gasquet uses and eastern (to contradict my old, OLD post), and Delpo has switched from, initially western, to semi-western, to eastern since '09 US Open.

skim the net
01-11-2014, 08:32 AM
guys federers is basically eastern

ilovetennis212
01-11-2014, 09:17 AM
I think Roger uses semi-western on low balls, and balls where he's going toe to toe on the baseline.

Seems like he uses eastern a lot on rallies where he's beyond the baseline. Only time I've seen Roger use extreme eastern inside the baseline is a high bouncer he hits flat through the court.



He uses conti+eastern grip on low balls. I think you got misunderstood here. It might looks like semi western if you only see his follow through. because he flips his racquet up after contact on low balls. But he uses eastern grip for low balls for sure.
Watch slow motion. You will see it right.

Only time he use semi western is on high ball or in clay court play.

Chico
01-11-2014, 09:24 AM
Nobody good. Even the one handed backhand has more users than the eastern forehand.

This. Someone mentioned Stepanek and Gasquet. But their forehands are not the best indeed.

To be honest I do not understand why would anyone use eastern forehand grip actually.

Chico
01-11-2014, 09:25 AM
Fed uses SW:
http://www.krausehouse.ca/krause/images/FedererForehandBackswingDown.jpg

Chip 'n Charge
01-11-2014, 02:53 PM
Looks like an Eastern Forehand Grip to me too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXcsblS3Jl4