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Cesc Fabregas
04-05-2009, 11:34 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 11:35 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

Wow... this coming from a Brit? Amazing! :shock:

clayman2000
04-05-2009, 11:37 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

I will always prefer to watch James Blake over Gilles Simon, but if you aksed be which game i would rather have Simon in a second

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 11:38 AM
I will always prefer to watch James Blake over Gilles Simon, but if you aksed be which game i would rather have Simon in a second

Hey... watch it... Simon is one of my favorites...

norbac
04-05-2009, 11:42 AM
I find both fun to watch, prefer to watch Murray though.

clayman2000
04-05-2009, 11:42 AM
Hey... watch it... Simon is one of my favorites...

I have nothing against Simon, but i just love watching mindless ball bashers

clayman2000
04-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Hey... watch it... Simon is one of my favorites...

I have nothing against Simon, but i just love watching mindless ball bashers.

The only people i would rather watch would be Nadal (no explaination needed) and Roddick (my fav player)

Lsmkenpo
04-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Yes it is always exciting to watch a player bounce the ball 20 times before he serves, abuse medical timeouts, and have to see Mommy and Daddy's reaction in the stands 20 times a match. I love it.

Murray will pass Djokovic soon in the rankings, and deservedly so.

VivalaVida
04-05-2009, 11:44 AM
Murray isnt boring but I think Novak is more exciting to watch.

clayman2000
04-05-2009, 11:44 AM
Yes it is always exciting to watch a player bounce the ball 20 times before he serves, abuse medical timeouts, and have to see Mommy and Daddy's reaction in the stands 20 times a match. I love it.

Murray will pass Djokovic soon in the rankings, and deservedly so.

Great post, love it :lol:

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 11:48 AM
Yes it is always exciting to watch a player bounce the ball 20 times before he serves, abuse medical timeouts, and have to see Mommy and Daddy's reaction in the stands 20 times a match. I love it.

Murray will pass Djokovic soon in the rankings, and deservedly so.

I do think Djokovic would improve if he asked his family not to come to his matches.

CyBorg
04-05-2009, 11:50 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

http://i44.tinypic.com/24mi3gn.jpg

VivalaVida
04-05-2009, 11:50 AM
I do think Djokovic would improve if he asked his family not to come to his matches.
his mom and dad have been showing up to fewer matches as compared to last year and his performance has gone down the gutter.

SempreSami
04-05-2009, 11:51 AM
Murray will still win more trophies this year than that gobbing little scrote in his username.

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 11:52 AM
his mom and dad have been showing up to fewer matches as compared to last year and his performance has gone down the gutter.

Really? That's a shame.

egn
04-05-2009, 11:52 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/24mi3gn.jpg

Where is his post a fail?

I second the op djoker's style I find way more entertaining than Murray

Cesc Fabregas
04-05-2009, 11:53 AM
Murray will still win more trophies this year than that gobbing little scrote in his username.

Coming from a guy with Graeme Smith in his avatar K.P owns Graeme Smith.

batz
04-05-2009, 11:53 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

:):):)

This is so sweet to read.

Get ready for many more unhappy Sunday's Cesc:)

Cesc Fabregas
04-05-2009, 11:56 AM
:):):)

This is so sweet to read.

Get ready for many more unhappy Sunday's Cesc:)

No I am happy Arsenal won this weekend and Villa lost 4th place is secured.

Blinkism
04-05-2009, 11:58 AM
I agree with the OP.

batz
04-05-2009, 11:58 AM
No I am happy Arsenal won this weekend and Villa lost 4th place is secured.


Was happy to see gooners win too - my eldest boy supports them big style. Also, I'm a Martin O'Neil hater:), so happy ot see villa lose.

Lsmkenpo
04-05-2009, 11:59 AM
I do think Djokovic would improve if he asked his family not to come to his matches.

Not sure if he would improve, but I am certain he would become a little more popular without the incessantly classless cheering and comments by mommy and daddy, Nadal's family seem to be in the stands often but they know how to cheer with class, they even applaud good tennis from his opponents, you would never see that from mommy and daddy Djoker.

Cesc Fabregas
04-05-2009, 11:59 AM
Was happy to see gooners win too - my eldest boy supports them big style. Also, I'm a Martin O'Neil hater:), so happy ot see villa lose.

Don't like O'Neil either im guessing you're Rangers fan?

batz
04-05-2009, 12:01 PM
Don't like O'Neil either im guessing you're Rangers fan?

Top deducing Cesc:) Nice one!


Yes, for my sins I am a Rangers fan. :cry:

S H O W S T O P P E R !
04-05-2009, 12:01 PM
I agree. Mary Carillo in the CBS broadcast said that Murray can reach anything. That's true, but he rarely makes a creative shot with it. He did show some flashes of brilliance, especially when dismantling a Djokovic drop shot. But he needs to show more willingness to use angles at the baseline.

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 12:01 PM
Not sure if he would improve, but I am certain he would become a little more popular without the incessantly classless cheering and comments by mommy and daddy, Nadal's family seem to be in the stands often but they know how to cheer with class, they even applaud good tennis from his opponents, you would never see that from mommy and daddy Djoker.

Perhaps you're right. His parents and youngest bro have made Djokovic much less likable over the years for me... but I try not to hold that against him.

Stchamps
04-05-2009, 12:01 PM
Andy Murray is really ugly.

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Andy Murray is really ugly.

Oh... that's rich. :roll:

batz
04-05-2009, 12:03 PM
Andy Murray is really ugly.


:)

Thanks for your insightful analysis.

Do you think that shade of blue clashed with Novak's eyes?

S H O W S T O P P E R !
04-05-2009, 12:06 PM
Andy Murray is really ugly.

I think he just needs a shave.

maximo
04-05-2009, 12:23 PM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

Why do you hold a grudge against him?

Jealousy i say...

Cesc Fabregas
04-05-2009, 12:24 PM
Why do you hold a grudge against him?

Jealousy i say...

I don't like his personality or game.

maximo
04-05-2009, 12:27 PM
I don't like his personality or game.

At least he doesn't chuck bottles to ball boys and not shake the umpire's hand like Federer...

CyBorg
04-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Where is his post a fail?

I second the op djoker's style I find way more entertaining than Murray

whilst Murray just pushes the ball back

Two fails here:

a) calling Murray a pusher
b) using 'whilst'

I'll add that I believe that Djokovic is a pretty generic baseliner, but a solid player.

Cesc Fabregas
04-05-2009, 12:30 PM
At least he doesn't chuck bottles to ball boys and not shake the umpire's hand like Federer...

I don't Federer but least he takes risks.

Kevin T
04-05-2009, 12:30 PM
Yeah, I love to watch Chokovic dribble the ball 100 times before serving, only to tank the 2nd set because "my legs are heavy"...translation..."I'm tired and need to get in better shape but can I call the trainer to stall?" Somehow, I don't think we'll ever see Choker puking on the court after giving maximum effort...he'll quit at the first sign of an upset stomach.

Lsmkenpo
04-05-2009, 12:31 PM
Anyone remember when Gilbert was coaching Murray, Murray would make an UE and turnaround and start cussing Gilbert out, lol. Thankfully he has grown up since than.

Objective Danny
04-05-2009, 12:33 PM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

Good Post.

I concur. King Djokovic is the man. He's the straw that stirs the drink.

Staiger
04-05-2009, 12:47 PM
Yeah, I love to watch Chokovic dribble the ball 100 times before serving, only to tank the 2nd set because "my legs are heavy"...translation..."I'm tired and need to get in better shape but can I call the trainer to stall?" Somehow, I don't think we'll ever see Choker puking on the court after giving maximum effort...he'll quit at the first sign of an upset stomach.

Chokovic = Lol , bless him , I agree what you said , He would call his trainer out if his leg start to feel tired . love it when he bonce the ball a few hundreds times before serving .........only to serve it into the net

Staiger
04-05-2009, 12:51 PM
I am still not certain why the Djoker is complaining about his racket.
Still not sure if he is using the same rackets but with a different paint-job or as he said switching to a new stick !!!

That guy confuses me sometimes

djoko4thewin
04-05-2009, 02:14 PM
i agree, djoko is much more exciting but murray sometimes can be too just not very often. especially today, so boring, if djoko had confidence and was hitting well he could off hit murray off court but anyway gotta give him some credit, he plays smart and knew djoko would make mistakes..shame. also murray needs a shave! would make him look much better, and he could get his teeth done..hes a millionaire and probably the only one without good teeth. Also did djoko talk about his racket again recently? because i haven't heard him mention it for a bit.

GameSampras
04-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Djoker definitely has some more spunk to him. Has a more exciting personality and more exciting game to watch I think. But at this point in time, that #3 spot is going to be Murray's pretty darn soon. Djoker is just wayy too eratic and these breathing issues no doubt are reoccurring and possibly will always hinder him.

RoddickAce
04-05-2009, 02:31 PM
I will always prefer to watch James Blake over Gilles Simon, but if you aksed be which game i would rather have Simon in a second

Let's not forget that blake had a career high ranking of #4 in the world. Just cuz he's currently not in the top 10 at age 29 doesn't mean his style of playing doesn't have its successes. Blake has been in the top 10 for a much longer time obviously (as he is older than Simon), and until Simon can prove he can stay in the top 10, I'd take Blake's game over Simon's. And also because flashy tennis always pleases the crowds:)!

Serpententacle
04-05-2009, 02:36 PM
Let's not forget that blake had a career high ranking of #4 in the world. Just cuz he's currently not in the top 10 at age 29 doesn't mean his style of playing doesn't have its successes. Blake has been in the top 10 for a much longer time obviously (as he is older than Simon), and until Simon can prove he can stay in the top 10, I'd take Blake's game over Simon's. And also because flashy tennis always pleases the crowds:)!

I personally enjoy watching Simon's play.

RoddickAce
04-05-2009, 02:54 PM
I personally enjoy watching Simon's play.

To be honest, it's not as "pusher-ish" as everyone says. Sure, he doesn't have as much firepwoer as the other guys, but he could pull off crazy shots from defensive positions.

OrangePower
04-05-2009, 03:11 PM
Purely from a tennis perspective: I think Murray is much more interesting to watch than Djokovic. Both have great games but I think Murray:

* Constructs points better.

* Transitions better from defense to offense.

* Can pull off better angle passing shots when he needs to

Djokovic obviously has a solid all-around game, but nothing that really strikes me as special. He just does everything really well. About the only thing that stands out for me is his dropshot (which BTW I think he overuses, but it's still a fun shot to watch).

For those that are undoubtedly going to disagree with me, what specific thing do you think stands out about Djokovic's game (what would you say is his trademark)?

Winners or Errors
04-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

+1

Murray is boring. At least Nadal makes defensive tennis look fun!

Djoker... All I can say is that he has an aesthetically pleasing game, except for the two-hander (but they're all ugly). Sad that he is generally not up to snuff when the mercury rises. I really hope he finds a way to fight through whatever ailment is limiting him at the moment. Nice to seen an actual all courter playing, though I wish he'd give up the crosscourt forehand approach (painful to watch today...).

pc1
04-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Djoker definitely has some more spunk to him. Has a more exciting personality and more exciting game to watch I think. But at this point in time, that #3 spot is going to be Murray's pretty darn soon. Djoker is just wayy too eratic and these breathing issues no doubt are reoccurring and possibly will always hinder him.

I don't know about more spunk but I agree with you that he has a more exciting game. I think Djokovic is a better hitter of the ball but mentally and stamina wise Murray is clearly his superior. And as many have said Murray contructs the points better and he has a plan of attack. I think Djokovic tends to panic when he's behind.

Winners or Errors
04-05-2009, 03:26 PM
Purely from a tennis perspective: I think Murray is much more interesting to watch than Djokovic. Both have great games but I think Murray:

* Constructs points better.

* Transitions better from defense to offense.

* Can pull off better angle passing shots when he needs to

Djokovic obviously has a solid all-around game, but nothing that really strikes me as special. He just does everything really well. About the only thing that stands out for me is his dropshot (which BTW I think he overuses, but it's still a fun shot to watch).

For those that are undoubtedly going to disagree with me, what specific thing do you think stands out about Djokovic's game (what would you say is his trademark)?

Djokovic: prettier groundstrokes (especially the forehand and slice backhand), actually comes to net (though sometimes his volleys leave something to be desired), aggressor in building points, can play an all court game...

I just don't think Murray builds points better, in today's match I certainly did not see Murray make any transitions from defense to offense, and thought the "angled passing shots" Murray hit today were merely the result of poor approaches by Djokovic.

I sincerely hope that Djokovic figures out how to deal with whatever is ailing him. These baseline grinders are boring to watch, and Djokovic may end up being a breath of fresh air. If only he had a one-handed backhand... (just kidding).

Clydey2times
04-05-2009, 03:41 PM
Djokovic: prettier groundstrokes (especially the forehand and slice backhand), actually comes to net (though sometimes his volleys leave something to be desired), aggressor in building points, can play an all court game...

I just don't think Murray builds points better, in today's match I certainly did not see Murray make any transitions from defense to offense, and thought the "angled passing shots" Murray hit today were merely the result of poor approaches by Djokovic.

I sincerely hope that Djokovic figures out how to deal with whatever is ailing him. These baseline grinders are boring to watch, and Djokovic may end up being a breath of fresh air. If only he had a one-handed backhand... (just kidding).

You think Djokovic has a prettier slice? It's ugly as hell and noweher near as potent as Murray's slice.

Murray is a far superior player at the net and mixes the play infinitely better.

SaintClaires
04-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Djokovic has a very awkward slice....he hits it extremely tentatively.

SempreSami
04-05-2009, 03:58 PM
Coming from a guy with Graeme Smith in his avatar K.P owns Graeme Smith.

Last time I checked, Smith leads his team to Test series victories away from home and doesn't bottle captaincy and whine to the press about missing his wife. And he uses Gunn & Moore like me.

Josherer
04-05-2009, 04:23 PM
I disagree.... Djokovic is fun to watch when he's playing well but he too often has metal lapses and plays like crap.

On the other hand there's Murray who always plays at a high level and although his game doesn't include lots of winners... i alway love watching him scramble from the baseline and win the point. Although he doesn't hit winners he is more fun to watch as he works hard for each point and mentally weak players (such as Joker) get fustrated and loose the match.

Overall much prefer watching Murray as Djoko is boring (ie. the same old thing... rally...rallyy..rally.. winner... rally..

Love the fact that murray never misses... Admire him alot..

pound cat
04-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Sampras was extremely boring to watch...not a bit of emotion or interpay with the crowd. Yet poeple loved to watch him play, and loved to watch Federer. Boring, boring IMO. Give me some fire , excitement, and unpredictablity any time.

That is, unless you're a person who likes boring and predictable tennis.

rooski
04-05-2009, 04:59 PM
+1 on agreeing with the OP.

I was happy Murray came on the scene to add to the small group of players that could potentially challenge Fed...but after watching the match today, I see why people have called him a pusher. Not the 4.5 version of a pusher of course but the pro version. Boring. One of the announcers called him this generation's version of Brad Gilbert. I'm not quite sure about that but he does seem to "win ugly". He also has a suprisingly weak serve for such a big guy. Strange player to watch.

Too bad Djoker was in "heat mode" again today but that's a whole different story.

Ripster
04-05-2009, 08:12 PM
I think Murray can be exciting depending on who he's playing. Let's face it, the guy has all the shots in the book however, when he thinks that all he needs to do is get the ball back and cover the court to win - well, that's just what he'll do.

On the other hand when he plays a guy like Nadal he is forced to be more aggressive and that's when I enjoy watching him the most. That US Open semi-final was very entertaining tennis from Murray.

rafan
04-05-2009, 09:13 PM
Sampras was extremely boring to watch...not a bit of emotion or interpay with the crowd. Yet poeple loved to watch him play, and loved to watch Federer. Boring, boring IMO. Give me some fire , excitement, and unpredictablity any time.

That is, unless you're a person who likes boring and predictable tennis.

Excellent. This is what I have been hamering on about for ages. The only point I could mention was that I watched Sampras on the biography channel here in the uk and it was said that he was upset that people found his tennis so boring because he worked so hard. This is one of the sad aspects of tennis. I'm afraid when Federer was playing he was so predicatable that I often didn't finish watching the match.

Clydey2times
04-06-2009, 02:02 AM
+1 on agreeing with the OP.

I was happy Murray came on the scene to add to the small group of players that could potentially challenge Fed...but after watching the match today, I see why people have called him a pusher. Not the 4.5 version of a pusher of course but the pro version. Boring. One of the announcers called him this generation's version of Brad Gilbert. I'm not quite sure about that but he does seem to "win ugly". He also has a suprisingly weak serve for such a big guy. Strange player to watch.

Too bad Djoker was in "heat mode" again today but that's a whole different story.

His flat serve regularly breaks 130mph and he has served over 140mph. I don't see how that is a weak serve.

orangettecoleman
04-06-2009, 02:12 AM
being exciting isn't murray's job, winning tennis matches is murray's job. he plays smart- he takes exactly as many risks as he needs to take to get the win and no more.

mawashi
04-06-2009, 02:47 AM
being exciting isn't murray's job, winning tennis matches is murray's job. he plays smart- he takes exactly as many risks as he needs to take to get the win and no more.

More or less that's correct. I'm no fan of Murry cus of the way he plays, the negative vibes, etc. Basically as much as I hate watching him play his boring game, he deserves credit for getting so much better then some his peers.

Djoker is a real joy to watch provided he plays well but with his talent he SHOULD try harder to actually get better not just try to get more attention.

mawashi

rafan
04-06-2009, 03:09 AM
More or less that's correct. I'm no fan of Murry cus of the way he plays, the negative vibes, etc. Basically as much as I hate watching him play his boring game, he deserves credit for getting so much better then some his peers.

Djoker is a real joy to watch provided he plays well but with his talent he SHOULD try harder to actually get better not just try to get more attention.

mawashi

It's such a shame because Djokovic played a brilliant AO when he beat both Tsonga and Federer 2 years back - I would hate to see him go back to being just another top 10

caulcano
04-06-2009, 04:07 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

I agree that Djokovic is more exciting to watch & Murray pushes a lot more. However, Murray can hit with a better variety than Djokovic (drop-shot, volleys, lobs etc).

paulorenzo
04-06-2009, 04:09 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/24mi3gn.jpg

no my friend, you pulled this out too early, while the general consensus is pretty much split down the middle. therefore, the thread has not failed. you fail.


plus i would definitely rather watch an on form djokovic than an on form murray. murray's game is effective, but the pattern is basically like so:
safe deep ball, flat deep ball, flat deep ball, loopy junk ball, flat deep ball, and repeat.

FloridaAG
04-06-2009, 04:59 AM
I would much rather watch Murray than Federer -

1. Aimless bashing versus a plan, touch and variety

2. I am more likely to see an actual match played out - rather than weezing, complaining, and retirement

paulorenzo
04-06-2009, 05:07 AM
I would much rather watch Murray than Federer -

1. Aimless bashing versus a plan, touch and variety

2. I am more likely to see an actual match played out - rather than weezing, complaining, and retirement

i agree with you on the complaining retirement part, that's probably what turn most people off about djokovic.

but when novak is on, the product of aimless bashing seem to magically find itself frequently near the lines, which is potentially far more appealing than murray's "variety" - which consists of hitting rally balls and bashing a couple once in a while, from the baseline.

cknobman
04-06-2009, 05:11 AM
I agree with OP.

Djoker much more interesting to watch because of all the drama. I watch his matches just to see if anything juicy will happen.

Will he **** the crowd off? Will he retire? Will he **** his opponent off? Will he say something stupid in post match comments? Will his family do something stupid during the match?

So many questions, so many opportunities.

rooski
04-06-2009, 01:49 PM
His flat serve regularly breaks 130mph and he has served over 140mph. I don't see how that is a weak serve.

Maybe you are right. However, in the 3-4 times I've seen him play his serve was not impressive for one of the top players in the world. AM's fastest serve yesterday against Djoker was 127 I think and most first serves were in the 117-119 range. I'm sure he is physically capable of hitting a serve 140+ but he doesn't seem to do it. He hit one ace yesterday at 76 mph out wide in the deuce court and another sub 90 mph ace later.

Maybe his strategy yesterday was to get a high percentage of serves in by taking something off the speed. He only hit 59% first serves in yesterday so I don't know.

Leublu tennis
04-06-2009, 02:01 PM
Thats really not saying much. Personally I like to watch paint dry. Grass grow. And then Murray play.

ronalditop
04-06-2009, 02:52 PM
actually every player is more fun to watch than murray. Really, this guy plays extremely boring. I think his strategy is to bore his opponents till they just dont give a .... about the match.

mawashi
04-06-2009, 08:03 PM
It's sad cus Murry has a really good game but on court n off he's as dull as dough n has the looks of a school boy that's been dragged to the court when he rather be playing his ps.

He just doesn't show any energy like Rafa.

mawashi

jimbo333
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you think Murray is overrated, you are in for a shock this year (if he stays fit, and it's a big if, looking at the rest of his career so far):)

Morrissey
04-06-2009, 09:25 PM
Thatīs not saying much. But then again I havenīt seen much of Joker since he retires so much. Arguing with Breakpoint is more exciting then watching Murray I guess.

Tennis_Bum
04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

I'll watch a lot of others before I watch Murray. I don't like to watch pushers even though they have excellent results. Pushers are not someone I like to watch. When Murray wins, people say he's so talented, so smart, etc. but when he loses, man the guy is just a jerk as anyone. He's way overrated, until he wins a slam, I don't think he's that great. I don't think he'll win a slam though, you can't push your way to a slam. At least I haven't seen a pusher win a slam yet anyway. Is there a pusher that won a slam? Anyone knows?

ODYSSEY Mk.4
04-06-2009, 09:44 PM
agree with the OP

Tennis_Bum
04-06-2009, 09:46 PM
I disagree.... Djokovic is fun to watch when he's playing well but he too often has metal lapses and plays like crap.

On the other hand there's Murray who always plays at a high level and although his game doesn't include lots of winners... i alway love watching him scramble from the baseline and win the point. Although he doesn't hit winners he is more fun to watch as he works hard for each point and mentally weak players (such as Joker) get fustrated and loose the match.

Overall much prefer watching Murray as Djoko is boring (ie. the same old thing... rally...rallyy..rally.. winner... rally..

Love the fact that murray never misses... Admire him alot..

Have you ever seen a pusher miss a ball on any level? That's why they are called pushers. The object is to push the ball back and let the other guy make mistakes by trying to change the game, great results no doubt but sure do make boring tennis. Murray will never draw the crowd as Fed, Djoko, Roddick or Nadal does. But to some degree Nadal also pushes the ball, but not as blatantly as Murray does.

jimbo333
04-07-2009, 02:05 AM
If this thread had been called "Djokovic is sometimes slightly more exciting to watch than Murray until Djokovic gives up", then I would agree. Otherwise, no I don't agree at all:)

P_Agony
04-07-2009, 02:19 AM
Djokovic IMO is one of the most boring players in the top 10. Murray is way more fun to watch, as long as he isn't in pusher-mode.

tennis_hand
04-07-2009, 07:09 AM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

true. but he isn't winning at the moment.
Fed is also more exciting to watch, but also not playing well.

The dull players like Murray and Nadal are dominating now.

batz
04-07-2009, 07:53 AM
I'll watch a lot of others before I watch Murray. I don't like to watch pushers even though they have excellent results. Pushers are not someone I like to watch. When Murray wins, people say he's so talented, so smart, etc. but when he loses, man the guy is just a jerk as anyone. He's way overrated, until he wins a slam, I don't think he's that great. I don't think he'll win a slam though, you can't push your way to a slam. At least I haven't seen a pusher win a slam yet anyway. Is there a pusher that won a slam? Anyone knows?

Sigh.

So many tropes and cliches.

OK, if all Murray is doing is pushing the ball back, crossing his fingers and wishing real hard (which seems to be what you're implying), how come you, me or Uncle Tom Cobbleigh aren't in the top 4 in the world with 3 MS shields, 11 titles and a slam final before turning 22?

Rafa and his Uncle call Murray 'a complete player', but you'll know best.

Winners or Errors
04-07-2009, 01:20 PM
true. but he isn't winning at the moment.
Fed is also more exciting to watch, but also not playing well.

The dull players like Murray and Nadal are dominating now.

Very sad for tennis, though I don't think Nadal is boring, not like Murray. If Murray were number 1, I think tennis would lose more fans than it already has... that's a good reason to root for guys with more interesting games.

Tennis_Bum
04-07-2009, 01:52 PM
Sigh.

So many tropes and cliches.

OK, if all Murray is doing is pushing the ball back, crossing his fingers and wishing real hard (which seems to be what you're implying), how come you, me or Uncle Tom Cobbleigh aren't in the top 4 in the world with 3 MS shields, 11 titles and a slam final before turning 22?

Rafa and his Uncle call Murray 'a complete player', but you'll know best.

Again, you can't believe everything you hear from the pros or their coaches. Just because they said things about Murray in public doesn't mean that he ain't a pusher. Murray can produce excellent results but his tennis is more or less a battle of errors from the opponents. I still say he can't win slam by pushing the ball, but let's see if he can prove me wrong. I don't think Murray will ever draw a crowd the way other pros do. Simply because he's too dull to watch.

tacou
04-07-2009, 02:30 PM
Djoker is much more excited to watch than Murray he goes after his shots takes risks comes to net whilst Murray just pushes the ball back and avoids the net like the plague its a myth that he has variaty whether or not Murray overtakes Djoker I will always prefer to watch Djoker than Murray.

good for you man. even though Djokovic lost I'm sure he takes solace in you preferring to watch him.

SempreSami
04-07-2009, 05:33 PM
Federer must really suck if he loses to Murray all because of errors. :roll:

6rump
04-07-2009, 05:57 PM
i'm not going to agree with you.... i prefer to watch murray, i don't like djokovic syle of play coz for me it's little bit force motion, just unnatural (natural like federer, gasquet, hewitt..etc)...

mawashi
04-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Regardless of how well he plays n he can play great!

Murry will never have as many fans as Rafa, Fed or even Djoker because he is really really weird. Negative body language, zero charisma on his interviews, freaky n rather embarrassing celebrations like him flexing his biceps or his latest spasm like head shakes.

I though Monfils' dance was bad but Murry can really get under my skin.

mawashi

35ft6
04-08-2009, 12:42 AM
Would much rather watch Murray over Novak anyday. Not even close. Murray is doing some incredible tactical stuff out there. Really, the level of point construction among the top 3 guys right now (Murray, Nadal, and Fed) is incredible. You want variety? I love the contrast between their games but they're all similar in that they're not just some of the best ball strikers around, but they are all arguably all court players with incredible racket skills. Yes, Nadal included.

nhat8121
04-08-2009, 01:56 AM
I like the variety, slice, short ball, deep ball, drop shot, etc...it's much more interesting than blasting the ball for winner/unforced error with them 3 shots rally.