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SaintClaires
04-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Andreas Seppi


What do you think?

JuliusWinto
04-05-2009, 07:51 PM
Gulbis___________

oneguy21
04-05-2009, 08:04 PM
I guess Seppi.

SaintClaires
04-05-2009, 08:09 PM
Julien Benneteau........probably better than Seppi......



Edit: I just realize that I started a pretty pointless thread. Sorry.

Commando Tennis Shorts
04-05-2009, 08:23 PM
The subject is an oxymoron of itself

orangettecoleman
04-06-2009, 03:02 AM
I think it's a good thread. Better than the "top 10 of all time", "best to never win a major", or Fedal threads. Anyway, my vote goes to Gulbis b/c he has made a couple of fairly deep runs at slams, but I like Isner, Becker, Mahut also.

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 05:04 AM
Michel Kratochvil

jaggy
04-06-2009, 05:06 AM
Does it include challengers or futures?

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 05:09 AM
atp titles im taking it, why would he bang on about challengers or futures?

BorisBeckerFan
04-06-2009, 05:16 AM
If you are including women and only singles titles I'll go with Kournikova.

SaintClaires
04-06-2009, 05:25 AM
Does it include challengers or futures?


No, just ATP or WTA titles........

illkhiboy
04-06-2009, 06:00 AM
I think this is a good thread. Fairly imaginative especially compared to the nonsense that the likes of Nadal-Freak take great pleasure in posting.

I think it's a really tough question to answer.

I think a more interesting discussion might be "Who is the best player to have not won a Masters (or Slam) title?"

That would include discussion about a lot of fascinating players like Ljubicic, Stepanek, Simon who've come very close but haven't been able to snag the big one.

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 06:02 AM
I think this is a good thread. Fairly imaginative especially compared to the nonsense that the likes of Nadal-Freak take great pleasure in posting.

I think it's a really tough question to answer.

I think a more interesting discussion might be "Who is the best player to have not won a Masters (or Slam) title?"

That would include discussion about a lot of fascinating players like Ljubicic, Stepanek, Simon who've come very close but haven't been able to snag the big one.

How many times has that been done, "not to win masters" "not to win slam"...

go back to talking about federer and nadal or whatever...

cwalbridge
04-06-2009, 06:04 AM
has baghdatis won one? If not, he is for sure.....maybe del potro:shock:

cwalbridge
04-06-2009, 06:05 AM
o wait i thought you meant a slam nvm

tuk
04-06-2009, 06:25 AM
Currently (based on ranking) the best one is Troicki at number 36 with no titles....Seppi is second at number 40 but one could argue that since his best ranking has been #27 (july last year) he can be considered the best one....
next its Bolelli at number 41 and then Gulbis at number 42.....but Im guessing that any player that got to the top 20 without winning any titles would be the winner...has that ever happened???

JediMindTrick
04-06-2009, 06:29 AM
Kournikova for sure.

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 06:33 AM
Currently (based on ranking) the best one is Troicki at number 36 with no titles....Seppi is second at number 40 but one could argue that since his best ranking has been #27 (july last year) he can be considered the best one....
next its Bolelli at number 41 and then Gulbis at number 42.....but Im guessing that any player that got to the top 20 without winning any titles wold be the winner...has that ever happened???

Henrik Holm was number 17 in the singles rankings without any singles title to his name. He never won an ATP title.

Although 5 doubles tournaments.

tuk
04-06-2009, 06:43 AM
Henrik Holm was number 17 in the singles rankings without any singles title to his name. He never won an ATP title.

Although 5 doubles tournaments.

I guess we have a winner then.....

gj011
04-06-2009, 07:07 AM
Tipsarevic.

illkhiboy
04-06-2009, 07:13 AM
How many times has that been done, "not to win masters" "not to win slam"...

go back to talking about federer and nadal or whatever...

Go back to talking about Fed/Nadal? Is that an order? Lol chill out.

I meant having a discussion about players that havn't won Masters nor Slams since if you just consider players who haven't won Masters, you would be considering Thomas Johansson and Albert Costa as well. Anyway, you're probably right - that has also been discussed a bit.

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 07:28 AM
Go back to talking about Fed/Nadal? Is that an order? Lol chill out.

I meant having a discussion about players that havn't won Masters nor Slams since if you just consider players who haven't won Masters, you would be considering Thomas Johansson and Albert Costa as well. Anyway, you're probably right - that has also been discussed a bit.


chill out? lawl

and johansson and costa have both won masters haha

Benefactor
04-06-2009, 07:44 AM
has baghdatis won one? If not, he is for sure.....maybe del potro:shock:

What are you talking about?

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 09:10 AM
that guy thought this thread was on slams.

illkhiboy
04-06-2009, 09:44 AM
chill out? lawl

and johansson and costa have both won masters haha

I suspected Costa won a clay Masters. But Tojo? When was that?

Just checked. Tojo won the Canadian Masters in 1999.

Are there many players who have won a Slam but not a Masters?

Considering Masters only started in 1990, I doubt there are.

I don't think Korda won a Masters though he won the prestigious Grand Slam Cup in '93.

Gaudio did not win a Masters either.

jrachiever
04-06-2009, 10:01 AM
I believe Viktor Troicki is currently the highest ranked player with no titles. I think Kournikova is probably the best choice amongst females. For men, although he eventually won titles, Cedric Pioline had to be up there in terms of most career accomplishments prior to winning a title. Finalist at US Open, 2 Wimbledon QF, Final at Monte Carlo, as high as #9 in the world, and overall a runner up 9 times prior to winning an ATP event.

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 10:27 AM
I suspected Costa won a clay Masters. But Tojo? When was that?

Just checked. Tojo won the Canadian Masters in 1999.

Are there many players who have won a Slam but not a Masters?

Considering Masters only started in 1990, I doubt there are.

I don't think Korda won a Masters though he won the prestigious Grand Slam Cup in '93.

Gaudio did not win a Masters either.

Kafelnikov, he was in quite a few finals but didn't win a masters series.

korda won stuttgart in 97

Ocean Drive
04-06-2009, 10:31 AM
Wawrinka only has one title to his name, beating djokovic in 2006 in umag.

might be kind of surprising to some.