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Rainalkar
04-06-2009, 10:21 AM
A few questions:

1.does Federer holds the racquet in continental grip while awaiting the ball,
2.does he change the grip from neutral when playing either forehand/backhand while under pressure, like on 1st serve returns, when there is little time to prepare,

3.he uses eastern classical grip on his backhand, so I guess it's easier for him to change grip when returning (if so), but how do guys that play a more extreme grip one handed backhand (like Henin) cope with 200kph serves, do they change the grip?

oneguy21
04-06-2009, 10:24 AM
Good questions

Unfortunately, I can't provide a good answer to any of them.

chiru
04-06-2009, 06:01 PM
A few questions:

1.does Federer holds the racquet in continental grip while awaiting the ball,
2.does he change the grip from neutral when playing either forehand/backhand while under pressure, like on 1st serve returns, when there is little time to prepare,

3.he uses eastern classical grip on his backhand, so I guess it's easier for him to change grip when returning (if so), but how do guys that play a more extreme grip one handed backhand (like Henin) cope with 200kph serves, do they change the grip?

I can answer your question 3 i think. assuming that you hold the racket as continental, it is further to move it to extreme 1hbh than eastern. on the other hand, if the grip you hold while awaiting serve is semiwestern, it's basically very little distance from semiwestern fh to extreme 1hbh (if there's any difference at all depending on how extreme your bh is). similarly it's 0 motion to sw forehand and very little motion to western forehand if those are the forehands you are combining with the extreme 1hbh. so i imagine that these players use semiwestern as their standard return grip. i used to do that when i played more extreme grips.

Rainalkar
04-07-2009, 06:37 AM
That is funny stuff. When I rotate the handle (I play eastern-semi western forehand, and eastern 1h backhand) I always rotate the upper part of it, if you understand what I mean. I can see how players who play with extreme grips would do the opposite, but when i looka at slow motions of Fed it doesn't seem to me that he holds the racquet in semi western.

tennis_hand
04-07-2009, 07:03 AM
useless questions.

the pros don't know and don't care their grips.

Rainalkar
04-07-2009, 09:08 AM
Subconciously they always switch to the same grip, it's a natural movement for them. Questions are not meaningless.

nikdom
04-07-2009, 10:10 AM
Subconciously they always switch to the same grip, it's a natural movement for them. Questions are not meaningless.

Going to continental between shots makes sense and I think the pros do that although I've never observed closely enough.

I've been caught in a situation where I was gripping my racket in a semi-western grip awaiting a forehand, but the ball came in cross-court at a sharp angle pulling me off the court with me trying to hit a squash like return - but I couldn't do it because the racket face needs to be open for it.

I definitely go to continental when I don't know which side I have to play from next. Helps me transition to an eastern on the BH easily or if I have to move in, then I'm set up perfectly for a volley.

Rainalkar
04-08-2009, 10:13 AM
I do would like to know how this works with at least some players, if anyone could explain, thanks.

FEDERER>buttpicker.
04-08-2009, 08:17 PM
federer is the greatest, his grip is unparalleled.

Wodz
02-15-2014, 10:35 AM
I think this thread has been dead for many years but it is baffling that no one was able to actually answer these questions..


tennis_hand said it was a "useless question" yet amateurs tend to not understand grips and when they should be changing. That leads to players using the same grip for quite literally every shot which helps lead to shoulder surgery and tennis elbow. So his question is VERY relevant since we are talking about tennis.


1.does Federer holds the racquet in continental grip while awaiting the ball,

Yes, a pro would commonly hold the racquet in a continental "ready position". After Federer strikes the ball and finishes his motion you will see him release the handle and typically spin the frame. This helps relax your hand as it tenses up if holding the racquet too tightly for too long. Spinning the racquet is more mental. Either way the position would be continental and the reason behind is due to the next shot he will hit. Since continental is a "neutral" grip for this question Federer will have to switch to either a backhand grip or a forehand grip on the next shot. Being in the ready position with a FH grip and then suddenly switching to his BH grip would not make sense as it would simply be a mental error from Federer. Since we are conditioned with using grips and when to change it is obvious that Federer would be in continental when awaiting the ball.


2.does he change the grip from neutral when playing either forehand/backhand while under pressure, like on 1st serve returns, when there is little time to prepare,

Again you would always be in a "ready position" so this question does not make any sense. Think about court positioning. If you come in to volley and plant yourself you want to stay neutral in the middle. If you lean left (as you are suggesting in your example) and suddenly your opponent goes to your right, you are screwed as you now need additional time to adjust. The same applies with the grip when returning serve. Federer's grip varies depending on how he decides to return serve. When you have mastered grip changes then "little time to prepare" is irrelevant compared with timing and footwork.


3.he uses eastern classical grip on his backhand, so I guess it's easier for him to change grip when returning (if so), but how do guys that play a more extreme grip one handed backhand (like Henin) cope with 200kph serves, do they change the grip?

You are confusing his backhand grip with his backhand return of serve and blocking. Three different motions. The BH and BH return are the same grip but Federer uses an abridged grip when returning a BH block. This is more of a semi-eastern as you need to have a firmer grip on the bevel in order to reduce racquet vibration.

Run-down of grips

Forehand - semi-eastern. Not all FH shots are the same so he uses semi-western for specific shots.

BH - Full eastern which allows him to come from underneath the ball and rotate over it to create top spin

Serve - semi-eastern. I find it odd that Federer does not use continental for serving.

Overhead/smash - semi-eastern for most. Continental if he slices the smash

Offensive/defensive slicing - Continental for both FH and BH shots. VERY important to note.


Some of those grips are debatable but the overwhelming point is to understand the different grips for different situations/shots and why a player is doing that. Playing with incorrect grips can (over time) put someone in the hospital. I cannot tell you guys how many people I have seen hitting slices with eastern or semi-western grips :(