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Bash and Crash
05-13-2009, 12:37 PM
do my eyes deceive me or is that a Radical Microgel with a Dunlop stencil..

jmverdugo
05-13-2009, 12:40 PM
It is Dunlop from a old tiger mold with a PJ of a MG Prestige with caps an everything, and yes the stencil is original Dunlop.

get it in
05-13-2009, 12:40 PM
It does look like a Head racquet. I can see it during the closeups.

Bash and Crash
05-13-2009, 12:45 PM
It is Dunlop from a old tiger mold with a PJ of a MG Prestige with caps an everything, and yes the stencil is original Dunlop.

hmmm, why wouldn't Dunlop paint it like 3004D, instead of Head PJ..

Razda
05-13-2009, 12:45 PM
Can anyone tell me what 's going on? Having a dispute with Dunlop?

Steve F.
05-13-2009, 01:23 PM
Haas has a track record of using what works and scr3w the sponsors.

Here, he's pretty clearly using a MG Prestige MP - maybe a Head prostock something or other but who knows. Doubt it's a contract thing, he just feels he plays better with the Head.

But note the kicks as well - he's got Nikes on while under contract with KSwiss.

At this point in his career, he doesn't give a flyin' flip about who's paying him - he wants to win. Gotta love it.

get it in
05-13-2009, 01:29 PM
You can't fault the guy. He's playing really well.

betofranca
05-13-2009, 01:38 PM
Prestige Mid or Midplus???

gonzalocatalino
05-13-2009, 01:43 PM
is a microgel (or PTXX) prestige, i can clearly see the cap`s on the racquet...

TennisPassion5
05-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Yeh, Microgel Prestige Midplus with a dunlop stencil

BreakPoint
05-13-2009, 02:44 PM
How do you guys know it's not a MG Prestige Pro? If it has an 18x20 string pattern, Head could always custom drill a Prestige Pro for him.

Gugafan
05-13-2009, 02:52 PM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=id9bmx&s=5

It's clearly a Head Microgel Prestige, and unlikely to be a PJ as he is sponsored by Dunlop. Looked like the MP from what I saw.

brownbearfalling
05-13-2009, 02:54 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/goldenqui/18b0c8e9016c6554e0b1351102fb938e-ge.jpg

The head looks too round to be a stock Prestige. But it may be the tension that Haas strings it. But the throat of the racquet and frame shape looks like a prestige. There is no doubt that it is a Head racquet

brownbearfalling
05-13-2009, 02:57 PM
From this angle it is definitely a Head prestige.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/goldenqui/e87aebcddfbabbcac88c320cc25840a9-ge.jpg

brownbearfalling
05-13-2009, 02:58 PM
The grip shape looks like Dunlop shape.

Gugafan
05-13-2009, 03:08 PM
The grip shape looks like Dunlop shape.

Most likely a custom moulded grip or pallet.

BreakPoint
05-13-2009, 03:09 PM
The grip shape looks like Dunlop shape.
Almost all pros get their handles custom molded to the exact shape and size they prefer so they have the same handle regardless of what brand of racquet they're using.

imalil2gangsta4u
05-13-2009, 03:56 PM
If it works, why not.

featherlight
05-13-2009, 05:29 PM
he is also wearing the bc 1

Fedace
05-13-2009, 05:39 PM
LOL,,,,,,he doesn't even bother with the paint job.........

Fedace
05-13-2009, 05:40 PM
and isn't Stock Head prestige too powerful for him ?

vsbabolat
05-13-2009, 05:54 PM
^^^^^
The MG Prestige MP is no more powerful than the Pro Tour 630 that Haas had used.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/52862748.jpg

Also on Haas' Dunlop he always had a HEAD butt cap with the logo sticker taken off.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/TommyHaas2.jpg

mec46205
05-15-2009, 09:34 AM
Haas always looks different in photographs, particularly these--I oftentimes don't even recognize him!

thetaxman
05-15-2009, 11:55 AM
Yup, definitely CAP grommets there.

svijk
05-15-2009, 12:10 PM
isn't this some kind of conflict of interest with Dunlop???

sonicboi21
05-15-2009, 01:24 PM
isn't this some kind of conflict of interest with Dunlop???

Most people watching tennis dont know the names of rackets when they see them on TV.
Only people like people on this forum will know, Dunlop probably pays him to just have the logo on the racket. So if he plays well, someone might say, oh, let me try that company's racket. They go to their nearest sports store and picks a stick with the same logo and thinks its similar.

Nix91
05-16-2009, 06:33 PM
lmao XD, Does he have to pay dunlop for the breaking contract ???

BDAZ
05-17-2009, 05:57 PM
at least grab a can of krylon first.

niktub
05-17-2009, 08:21 PM
Could it be a pt630 under the paint?

coolhandluke
05-18-2009, 12:28 PM
does any player use the racquet that they are paid to use? If i had a racquet company i would not pay any player to use my racquet because some time later they they might not want to use it any more and then they PJ it or blacken it out!!!!

get it in
05-19-2009, 08:56 AM
does any player use the racquet that they are paid to use? If i had a racquet company i would not pay any player to use my racquet because some time later they they might not want to use it any more and then they PJ it or blacken it out!!!!

The general public rarely knows what the terms of the sponsorship deals are. It makes a lot of sense to setup deals with professionals because they are getting the visibility of their product out there. Most of the money to be made in tennis is in selling to the general public, not necessarily enthusiasts like those on this message board. Some players even get money to wear patches on their clothes (see Andy Roddick).

However, only the top, top players like Federer, Nadal, and Sampras will get the super big money deals. All three of those players got lifetime sponsorships worth millions of dollars. It makes a lot of sense because people still think of Wilson when they think of Sampras. Lasting top 50 players probably receive good money but a lot of pros will get nothing or maybe discounted deals on equipment.

Anyway, the point my rambling is that companies don't care what's under the paint job, as long as they are selling their equipment and making money. In the end, it's all about the dollah dollah dollah (the almighty dollar for those you who didn't get the reference). It's the reality of business.

One quick thought: I think it's great that Tommy is using whatever works for him, whether it's Dunlop or Head. At this stage of his career, he only cares about winning since he's already made his money. After all, the guy drives a Porsche 911 convertible. He's probably not hurting for a paycheck! :)

vsbabolat
05-28-2009, 06:35 AM
Haas is still using his HEAD racquet with a Dunlop stencil at the 2009 French Open.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_french_open.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_Roland_Garros.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_Roland_Garros_2.jpg

get it in
05-28-2009, 09:47 AM
Haas is still using his HEAD racquet with a Dunlop stencil at the 2009 French Open.


LOL! And Nike shoes with K-Swiss clothes!

slice bh compliment
05-28-2009, 09:54 AM
...After all, the guy drives a Porsche 911 convertible. ...

with Ferrari wheels and a BMW transmission ;-)

BreakPoint
05-28-2009, 09:57 AM
LOL! And Nike shoes with K-Swiss clothes!
Does K-Swiss even make a clay court shoe?

slice bh compliment
05-28-2009, 09:57 AM
... the guy drives a Porsche 911 convertible. ...

with a Lexus climate control system and struts from a Maserati. LOL!

Remember his own clothing company, Haasi?

vsbabolat
05-28-2009, 10:19 AM
Does K-Swiss even make a clay court shoe?

Yes they do. Fish seems to be able to wear them.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Fish_2009_Roland_Garros_3.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Fish_2009_Roland_Garros_2.jpg

Rabbit
05-28-2009, 11:23 AM
Last tournament Haas played he was doing the K-Swiss threads and Nike kicks. I think the guy isn't a long term signee with anyone.

dje31
05-31-2009, 09:51 AM
Maybe he's using Dunlop strings? ;P

AHSEagles2012
05-31-2009, 10:49 AM
or maybe he doesnt have a shoe agreement smart one

hsv91
05-31-2009, 01:40 PM
Hello,

could you tell me, which racquet, string and tension Haas use?

Second, why he play a head racquet with a dunlop stencil?

Thanks

T-fighter
06-01-2009, 02:37 AM
Today he is using the right stencil: Head

Pro_Tour_630
06-01-2009, 04:48 AM
Haas is still using his HEAD racquet with a Dunlop stencil at the 2009 French Open.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_french_open.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_Roland_Garros.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_Roland_Garros_2.jpg
^^^^^^ the last photo clearly shows this is a PT57A mold VS

rosen88
06-01-2009, 05:05 AM
Do we have any pics clearly showing the PT57A code inside Haas racquet?

beckham
06-01-2009, 05:11 AM
Against Federer right now he has ditched the Dunlop Stencil and gone all out with a HEAD Stencil.

beckham
06-01-2009, 05:13 AM
Haas is still using his HEAD racquet with a Dunlop stencil at the 2009 French Open.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_french_open.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_Roland_Garros.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/Haas_2009_Roland_Garros_2.jpg
VS. Federer he's using a HEAD Stencil w/ the racquet. You can see he's also using lead at 3&9 and he has "power pads" string w/ the grommets in the throat.

beckham
06-01-2009, 05:26 AM
Couldn't get pics of the throat, but this is Haas vs. Federer, with Haas using the HEAD Raquet w/ the HEAD Stencil.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1tqakj.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2hdabgj.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/245isu0.jpg

BorisBeckerFan
06-01-2009, 05:50 AM
The wedges below the bridge is a good indication that it's not a prestige but protour instead.

nadal for number1
06-01-2009, 05:54 AM
yea he also has the head bag now... seems he really liking this stick now?

KuanMaster
06-01-2009, 06:00 AM
he got the head stencil and head bag today against fed

bsandy
06-01-2009, 04:32 PM
^^^^^^ the last photo clearly shows this is a PT57A mold VS

Clearly ??

huh !

. . . Bud

Pro_Tour_630
06-01-2009, 05:45 PM
Clearly ??

huh !

. . . Bud

yes clearly, do you want me to spell it for you>>>>>>>> C L E A R L Y

slice bh compliment
06-01-2009, 05:59 PM
yea he also has the head bag now... seems he really liking this stick now?

Well, I'm sure the HEAD promotions manager in charge of tour guys got a hold of Tommy and got him to sign something this past day or two. Nice little check, I'm sure. Or at least a contract with some bonus potential. Televised matches deep in a slam? Makes all the difference.

ronalditop
06-01-2009, 07:46 PM
Anybody knows what strings hes using?

Steve F.
06-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Anybody knows what strings hes using?

Haas has been using full Bab gut forever

JacKKyKung
06-02-2009, 10:39 AM
He may had contract with Dunlop until last May 31th and start new contract with HEAD at June 1st, I guess.

NicolasH
06-02-2009, 03:50 PM
He's been using the same string set-up as Federer. Half VS Gut and half Luxilon.

Tofuspeedstar
06-02-2009, 03:51 PM
lol...Haas don't give a damn about sponsors.

All about the W's.

ronalditop
06-02-2009, 03:51 PM
He's been using the same string set-up as Federer. Half VS Gut and half Luxilon.

what gauge?

Zach
06-02-2009, 04:13 PM
He's been using the same string set-up as Federer. Half VS Gut and half Luxilon.

I'm pretty sure he uses full VS. He's even been quoted on the court saying, "I still use gut, everybody else is cheating," as he rambles on between points.

NicolasH
06-02-2009, 04:37 PM
Patrick McEnroe and Darren Cahil were commenting on his new equipment. Apart from mentioning the new (to him) Head frame they also talked about how he was a long-time VS gut player who finally switched to half gut / half Luxilon and as such was getting more spin on the ball.

Fearsome Forehand
06-03-2009, 01:08 PM
Seems likely Haas is using some customized variation of his old stick, the Pro Tour 280/630 with the current Head paintjob. But it also could possibly be a customized version of the another Head 18x20 Midplus rackets that are similar. The top players get the "pro mold" rackets.

The pics do show those small wedges where the throat meets the bridge that are characteristic of the Pro Tour. The timing strongly suggests his Dunlop deal expired around the end of May. That would make sense.

The Dunlop pro mold frames I've hit with are very Head Pro Tour-ish (almost 100% identical, even have the bridge wedges.) I always thought that was because Dunlop cloned a Head Pro Tour to accommodate Haas when he switched from Head to Dunlop. (Just a theory.)

All the top players are reluctant to change rackets. If a particular stick got you into the top ten would you be likely to change? For the top players who switch sponsors, the new sponsor often makes a clone of their old frame. Cuts down on the biatching, I guess. ;o) In some cases, the new sponsor simply paint jobs the competitors frame. (Blake's Prince-painted Dunlop pro molds and Safin's Dunlop-painted Head Prestige 300/Classics come to mind immediately as examples.)