Whats this guys agenda & have you known someone like this on the courts?

[keepurpowderdry]

We have a new addition to our tennis group. I don't know what to think of him but I suspect he is a character ? Every session he begans to teach us stuff about tennis. He has accuratley told me 1 correct tennis info and then goes on to tell me 5 to 20 incorrect tennis info. Depends on when i decide to cut him off by getting a drink of water :) . He also told me that after 5 years I should throw away my racquet because its no good anymore. So i thought i'd ask you guys if thats true? man this guy after beating him consistantly started telling me I should play out my points differently not to go for so much? thats after I beat him ! He is a nice guy but I see an underlining agenda here and he keeps talking and talking with little bit of good info and a whole bunch of bad info.
Anyone experience this kind of person on the courts before and How did you handle it? Remember he is nice and he showed me his name and rank #15 or 16 or 18 in the usta book for 5.5 in southern california for 2006. So I don't know what to think lol

[onehandbh]

Who is this guy? e-mail my via my profile. I'm also in
socal. I bet I might know him.

btw, racquets start to break down the moment they come off
the toxic assembly lines in china, but the amount of
breakdown is so small that the avg tennis player could
probably keep the racquet for 10+ yrs.

[PimpMyGame]

Maybe he's one of those people who's a little insecure around new people and wants to appear knowledgeable. I know some people like that. Also he might be uncomfortable with silences so needs to speak and comes up with garbage. I also know people like that, if you get a fusion of the 2 it could be murder.

[Steady Eddy]

He also told me that after 5 years I should throw away my racquet because its no good anymore. So i thought i'd ask you guys if thats true?

No, it's not true.

He is a nice guy but I see an underlining agenda here and he keeps talking and talking with little bit of good info and a whole bunch of bad info. I dissagree. Nice people aren't rude, and it is very rude to give advice when not asked.

[user92626]

I think he's conspiring to turn you into a toad and you can't play no more or even be around girls. I know a guy like guy. Very ugly.

[drake]

I'm more curious about who you are. You can beat a top 20 So. Cal player? What age division are you? Do you have a ranking?

[keepurpowderdry]

No, it's not true.

I dissagree. Nice people aren't rude, and it is very rude to give advice when not asked.

yea your right.. Im going to stick to my game . But guess what he now comes to our league games and starts talking and giving advice right before the match. That really pissed me off arrrggh:mad:

[keepurpowderdry]

Who is this guy? e-mail my via my profile. I'm also in
socal. I bet I might know him.

btw, racquets start to break down the moment they come off
the toxic assembly lines in china, but the amount of
breakdown is so small that the avg tennis player could
probably keep the racquet for 10+ yrs.

thank you for the racquet info.. I wouldn't do that to him about telling you his name .

[keepurpowderdry]

I'm more curious about who you are. You can beat a top 20 So. Cal player? What age division are you? Do you have a ranking?
I don't know about top 20 . In 2006 he showed me he was a 5.5 adult player ranked 15 16 or 18th i dont remember the exact rank . he is probably late 40s or older. Im 36 I started playing tennis again 2 years ago When I was an early teen till 16 17ish I played High ranking juniors and did well against them with only 1 private lesson that I got from a scholarship givin to me by the scta. I was picked out of a group of kids from our section.
I played a guy who was a great pro and was the #1 junior for 17 year olds when i was 14 I think it was 1986 or 1987 ! :) I lost to him but I got 2 games and I was really upset for getting beat until the director told me hey be happy that kid was the #1 17 year old in the country..

[chess9]

This sounds like another teenager's fantasy life run amok.

-Robert

[onehandbh]

thank you for the racquet info.. I wouldn't do that to him about telling you his name .

what area in socal r u? there's a group of people from TW
that occasionally meet up and hit. i think the thread is in the travel section. sort of a mixed level group.

[keepurpowderdry]

what area in socal r u? there's a group of people from TW
that occasionally meet up and hit. i think the thread is in the travel section. sort of a mixed level group.

inland empire

[keepurpowderdry]

This sounds like another teenager's fantasy life run amok.

-Robert

hey for as many posts as you have you don't need any one liners any more:)

unless thats your thing.

[35ft6]

I'm more curious about who you are. You can beat a top 20 So. Cal player? What age division are you? Do you have a ranking?The 5.5 rankings are weird, but they mostly consist, I'm pretty sure, of older guys who aren't Open level. I know a guy who was dominating 5.5 tournaments for a while in So Cal and he would be lucky to beat a guy ranked 300 in the Open Seeding List. Open is where the really good amateurs, and part time pros, play. The number 20 guy right now is Noah T Newman and supposedly he's no joke. Been wanting to see him play for a long time actually.

[keepurpowderdry]

The 5.5 rankings are weird, but they mostly consist, I'm pretty sure, of older guys who aren't Open level. I know a guy who was dominating 5.5 tournaments for a while in So Cal and he would be lucky to beat a guy ranked 300 in the Open Seeding List. Open is where the really good amateurs, and part time pros, play. The number 20 guy right now is Noah T Newman and supposedly he's no joke. Been wanting to see him play for a long time actually.

How are you . Im going to play doubles in the seal beach tourney this june sectionals. Have you ever gone to that tournament and do you think the 4.5 is all strong 4.5s (doubles)?

[drake]

There's a lot of players out that like to express how much tennis knowledge they possess (just look at this forum), including myself at times, your're doing the right thing, if you can make use of some of the info, great, but just take it for what it is. The main thing is, it's good to practice and play with quality players, just let your racquet have the final word.

[imalil2gangsta4u]

I just pretend to listen to those kinda people lol. Hes not doing anything wrong/hurting anybody, so just let him talk.

[LuckyR]

We have a new addition to our tennis group. I don't know what to think of him but I suspect he is a character ? Every session he begans to teach us stuff about tennis. He has accuratley told me 1 correct tennis info and then goes on to tell me 5 to 20 incorrect tennis info. Depends on when i decide to cut him off by getting a drink of water :) . He also told me that after 5 years I should throw away my racquet because its no good anymore. So i thought i'd ask you guys if thats true? man this guy after beating him consistantly started telling me I should play out my points differently not to go for so much? thats after I beat him ! He is a nice guy but I see an underlining agenda here and he keeps talking and talking with little bit of good info and a whole bunch of bad info.
Anyone experience this kind of person on the courts before and How did you handle it? Remember he is nice and he showed me his name and rank #15 or 16 or 18 in the usta book for 5.5 in southern california for 2006. So I don't know what to think lol

Yeah he's a character all right. In my experience gamesmanship guys spend so much energy trying work the mind game thing that they actully end up suprisingly vulnerable to it themselves. Next time you go out to play, interupt him mid-advice and start analyzing his game, in a not too flattering way. You'll throw him off his game for once. It'll be interesting to see what he does the time after that.

[keepurpowderdry]

Yeah he's a character all right. In my experience gamesmanship guys spend so much energy trying work the mind game thing that they actully end up suprisingly vulnerable to it themselves. Next time you go out to play, interupt him mid-advice and start analyzing his game, in a not too flattering way. You'll throw him off his game for once. It'll be interesting to see what he does the time after that.

lol.. Thats a good idea. I think i did it before not knowing what i was doing but he allways says when he wins a point "that was 45 percent" . So when I served out wide and he chased it and hit air ,, I told him that was 35 percent :). Good idea lucky . If I have to I will do it on a consistant bases because everyone is starting to not like it. Especially on our sunday league matches :(

[keepurpowderdry]

I just pretend to listen to those kinda people lol. Hes not doing anything wrong/hurting anybody, so just let him talk.

I tried he is relentless :( I got dizzy one time.. he was on a roll lol

[tailofdog]

Who is this guy? e-mail my via my profile. I'm also in
socal. I bet I might know him.

btw, racquets start to break down the moment they come off
the toxic assembly lines in china, but the amount of
breakdown is so small that the avg tennis player could
probably keep the racquet for 10+ yrs.

I have started to play with Classic racquets. I now play with a Rossignol thats 20 yr old and its a great racquet. I used to buy the newest models but, feel older racquets that have been found to be good offer a better choice(IMO)

[tailofdog]

Sounds like a run of the mill ENERGY VAMPIRE with a need also to build up his self importance.
I am older now so after having seen a # of these people over time i dont have much tolerance left. I disengage any way necessary (POLITE OR NOT)
And why would anyone be giving tennis advice in a league situation?
Is this so they can use it against you next time you play?

[keepurpowderdry]

Sounds like a run of the mill ENERGY VAMPIRE with a need also to build up his self importance.
I am older now so after having seen a # of these people over time i dont have much tolerance left. I disengage any way necessary (POLITE OR NOT)
And why would anyone be giving tennis advice in a league situation?
Is this so they can use it against you next time you play?

Im going to forward your comment to everyone that was perfectly put :)

[larry10s]

tell point blank i appreciate you trying to help me but its distracting . im working on certain things and need to stay focused on that. talk to me about anything else but advice. if he doesnt get the message call him out when he is wrong and tell him keep your advice to yourself i dont want to hear it.

[KerryJ]

We have a new addition to our tennis group. I don't know what to think of him but I suspect he is a character ? Every session he begans to teach us stuff about tennis. He has accuratley told me 1 correct tennis info and then goes on to tell me 5 to 20 incorrect tennis info. Depends on when i decide to cut him off by getting a drink of water :) . He also told me that after 5 years I should throw away my racquet because its no good anymore. So i thought i'd ask you guys if thats true? man this guy after beating him consistantly started telling me I should play out my points differently not to go for so much? thats after I beat him ! He is a nice guy but I see an underlining agenda here and he keeps talking and talking with little bit of good info and a whole bunch of bad info.
Anyone experience this kind of person on the courts before and How did you handle it? Remember he is nice and he showed me his name and rank #15 or 16 or 18 in the usta book for 5.5 in southern california for 2006. So I don't know what to think lol



I know someone just like this except he's not very good. He also talks about he can beat people who he has never beat and definitely will never beat. It's annoying

[35ft6]

How are you . Im going to play doubles in the seal beach tourney this june sectionals. Have you ever gone to that tournament and do you think the 4.5 is all strong 4.5s (doubles)?I'm good. :) And I have no idea. I've never played any sanctioned tennis in So Cal. But I've heard the 4.5 leagues are crazy. Lots of sand bagging and the coaches usually don't protest because they all do it, but I heard about a year ago one team got a guy who used to have ATP points and THAT some people did complain about. From what I've been told, though, the 4.5 leagues have a lot of guys who are 5.0 and above, former college players, etc.

[keepurpowderdry]

I'm good. :) And I have no idea. I've never played any sanctioned tennis in So Cal. But I've heard the 4.5 leagues are crazy. Lots of sand bagging and the coaches usually don't protest because they all do it, but I heard about a year ago one team got a guy who used to have ATP points and THAT some people did complain about. From what I've been told, though, the 4.5 leagues have a lot of guys who are 5.0 and above, former college players, etc.

thanks that will be a fun test :)

[Steady Eddy]

tell point blank i appreciate you trying to help me but its distracting . im working on certain things and need to stay focused on that. talk to me about anything else but advice. if he doesnt get the message call him out when he is wrong and tell him keep your advice to yourself i dont want to hear it.Pretty much true, except that part that says, "call him out when he is wrong". Not necessary. Your request that he not give advice because it's distracting ought to be enough. If you 'call him out when he is wrong' he'll make the issue that he's not wrong, then you're stuck arguing about whether he's wrong or not. Let him save face by implying his advice is correct, but just not what you're working on now. If he grew up on this planet he ought to know enough to respect that and back off.

[delphi17]

lol, what you are actually saying , is that you can beat the guy, so he is not knowledgeable..
hey, thats why federer doesnt need a coach..and why tiger woods dumped his coach..
because seriously, none of their coach can beat them, why would they be more knowledgeable ..
At the end of the day, no one needs a coach that they can beat, right?

[larry10s]

Pretty much true, except that part that says, "call him out when he is wrong". Not necessary. Your request that he not give advice because it's distracting ought to be enough. If you 'call him out when he is wrong' he'll make the issue that he's not wrong, then you're stuck arguing about whether he's wrong or not. Let him save face by implying his advice is correct, but just not what you're working on now. If he grew up on this planet he ought to know enough to respect that and back off.good point