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Dutch-Guy
05-19-2009, 11:40 AM
2009, M1000 Madrid,semis: beat Novak Djokovic (SRB/N.3) 3-6, 7-6, 7-6 in 243 minutes

2009,Australian Open,finals: beat Roger Federer (SUI/N.2) 7-5 3-6 7-6(3) 3-6 6-2 in 259 minutes (finale la plus longue de l'histoire du tournoi)

2009,Australian Open,semis: beat Fernando Verdasco (ESP/N.15) 6-7(4) 6-4 7-6(2) 6-7(1) 6-4 in 310 minutes

2008,Wimbledon,finals: beat Roger Federer (SUI/N.1) 6-4 6-4 6-7(5) 6-7(8) 9-7 in 288 minutes

2007, iWimbledon,finals: beaten by Roger Federer (SUI/N.1) 6-7(7) 6-4 6-7(3) 6-2 2-6 in 225 minutes

2007,Rome,semis: beat Nikolay Davydenko, (RUS/N.4) 7-6(3) 6-7(8) 6-4 en 219 minutes

2007,Chennaļ,semis: beat Carlos Moya (ESP/N.17) 6-7(3) 7-6(8) 7-6(1) in 235 minutes

2007, Australian Open 4R : beat Andy Murray (GBR/N.16) 6-7(3) 6-4 4-6 6-3 6-1 in 231 minutes

2006, Wimbledon, 2R: beat Robert Kendrick (USA) 6-7(4) 3-6 7-6(2) 7-5 6-4 in 226 minutes

2006,Roland Garros 3R: beat Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA) 5-7 6-4 6-4 6-4 in 293 minutes

2006,MS Rome,finals: beat Roger Federer (SUI/N.1) 6-7(7) 7-6(5) 6-4 2-6 7-6(5) in 305 minutes

2005,MS Madrid,finals: beat Ivan Ljubicic (CRO/N.12) 3-6 2-6 6-3 6-4 7-6(3) in 233 minutes

2005, Roland Garros,finals: beat Mariano Puerta (ARG) 6-7(6) 6-3 6-1 7-5 in 204 minutes

2005,MS Rome,finals : beat Guillermo Coria (ARG) 6-4 3-6 6-3 4-6 7-6(6) in 314 minutes

2005,Australian Open,4R: beaten by Lleyton Hewitt (AUS/N.3) 5-7 6-3 6-1 6-7(3) 2-6 in 233 minutes

2005,Australian Open 2R: beat Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 6-1 4-6 4-6 7-5 6-3 in 217 minutes

2004, MS Miami,beaten byRoger Federer (SUI/N.1) 6-2 7-6(4) 6-7(5) 3-6 1-6 in 223 minutes

Nadal likes 'Marathonian" matches,doesn't he:)

mzzmuaa
05-19-2009, 11:46 AM
He rudely wastes time catering to his compulsions and delaying other people's matches.
-15 seconds per each point served by Nadal for excessive wasting of time.

aphex
05-19-2009, 11:50 AM
are you including time lost due to buttpicking?

TheNatural
05-19-2009, 11:59 AM
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6
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4
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per year since 2004. Not many relative to the total matches he plays per year.

samster
05-19-2009, 12:00 PM
Extra time was lost due to going over the 25 second rule in-between points as others have mentioned.

Dutch-Guy
05-19-2009, 12:01 PM
are you including time lost due to buttpicking?

Yeah,that too:).

TheNatural
05-19-2009, 12:21 PM
are you including time lost due to buttpicking?


he didn't take much time for buttpicking in this match:

http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080609/001aa018ff9c09b6c9a702.jpg

aphex
05-19-2009, 12:32 PM
neither in this one

http://www.sportsnob.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nadal_federer.jpg

TheNatural
05-19-2009, 12:40 PM
http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080609/001aa018ff9c09b6c9a702.jpg

If Nadal had wasted more time picking it wouldn't have been the quickest Roland Garros final in 30 years at 108 minutes. :lol:


neither in this one

http://www.sportsnob.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nadal_federer.jpg

aphex
05-19-2009, 12:46 PM
If Nadal had wasted more time picking it wouldn't have been the quickest Roland Garros final in 30 years at 108 minutes. :lol:[/QUOTE]

how long was kafelnikov's SEMIfinal with samras?

TheNatural
05-19-2009, 12:54 PM
Nadal is helping Fed be in all the record books...for

1/ best match ever and longest-ever Wimbledon men's final.(wimbledon 08 final)
2/ fastest Roland Garros final in 30 years, (2008..)


We all love Nadal's epics.;)

bolo
05-19-2009, 12:59 PM
he didn't take much time for buttpicking in this match:

http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080609/001aa018ff9c09b6c9a702.jpg


lol. Actually if nadal reduced the buttpicking that would have been like a early 90 steffi graf versus random female wta player type match. Done in an hour. :)

TheNatural
05-19-2009, 01:08 PM
lol. Actually if nadal reduced the buttpicking that would have been like a early 90 steffi graf versus random female wta player type match. Done in an hour. :)

In that case the fans and sponsors would demand a refund due to Fed sucking so badly.:lol:

Nadal saved the tournament.

bolo
05-19-2009, 01:10 PM
In that case the fans and sponsors would demand a refund due to Fed sucking so badly.:lol:

Nadal saved the tournament.

lol. 10 char. :)

Cesc Fabregas
05-19-2009, 01:11 PM
he didn't take much time for buttpicking in this match:

http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080609/001aa018ff9c09b6c9a702.jpg

Federer's house is filled with so many RG runner up plates he could hold a dinner party.

MrAWD
05-19-2009, 01:16 PM
Nadal likes 'Marathonian" matches,doesn't he:)
No he does not! He would love to be able to finish things quickly, but he doesn't know how! He also doesn't have a game to beat someone quickly. Loss of tactics on his side was quite obvious this passed final. There was nothing thee in Rafa to bring it above the Rodger or two other guys as well. The only tactic he has is to frustrate his opponents and make them to go for more and more until they hurt them selves. Once his opponent plays clean game, he has nothing to bring things on the top of that. If he had, his matches would be quicker!

Dutch-Guy
05-19-2009, 01:31 PM
No he does not! He would love to be able to finish things quickly, but he doesn't know how! He also doesn't have a game to beat someone quickly. Loss of tactics on his side was quite obvious this passed final. There was nothing thee in Rafa to bring it above the Rodger or two other guys as well. The only tactic he has is to frustrate his opponents and make them to go for more and more until they hurt them selves. Once his opponent plays clean game, he has nothing to bring things on the top of that. If he had, his matches would be quicker!

Did you see what he did to Fed in RG last year.Rafa wanted to finish him off in 70 minutes but he thought sponsors and the public wouldn't like it.So he extended the slaughter a lil a bit.:)

MrAWD
05-19-2009, 02:00 PM
Did you see what he did to Fed in RG last year.Rafa wanted to finish him off in 70 minutes but he thought sponsors and the public wouldn't like it.So he extended the slaughter a lil a bit.:)
What I saw was that Nadal was playing the exact same type of game (well that is only one he knows how) last time in Paris as he did in Madrid this weekend. Sorry...

Serendipitous
05-19-2009, 02:11 PM
2005,Roland Garros 3R: beat Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA) 5-7 6-4 6-4 6-4 in 293 minutes




You mean 2006.

That was one amazing match.

bolo
05-19-2009, 02:23 PM
What I saw was that Nadal was playing the exact same type of game (well that is only one he knows how) last time in Paris as he did in Madrid this weekend. Sorry...

I agree it was the same type of game. At RG 08 it was a blowout for nadal, in madrid it was a 2 set win for fed. What do you think will happen if they meet at RG with both playing the exact types of games we have seen in their last 2clay meetings?

aphex
05-19-2009, 02:25 PM
In that case the fans and sponsors would demand a refund due to Fed sucking so badly.:lol:

Nadal saved the tournament.

i repeat:

how long did sampras' SEMI-final raep by kafelnikov last?

MrAWD
05-19-2009, 02:54 PM
I agree it was the same type of game. At RG 08 it was a blowout for nadal, in madrid it was a 2 set win for fed. What do you think will happen if they meet at RG with both playing the exact types of games we have seen in their last 2clay meetings?
The thing is Rafa's game is getting well known to other top guys and we see it exploited more and more by each one of them. I think it is a matter of time when this is going to happen (not by any means IF it is going to happen) and from seeing him playing Djokovic last two times, it is going to get only harder.

Federer looked so much like his old self and if he keeps playing the way he played in Madrid, Rafa will have a hard time if they meet in Paris.

The main thing here is that Rafa's opponents are realizing that he is leaving lot of space on his backhand side and all those cross court balls at steeper angle move him so far out of the court that he is basically forced to go for the winner or send a normal ball and then try to chase it to either his backhand side back to the forehand, which is hard to get to if he is already running to the other side. What he was doing in Madrid was to leave a bit less space on his forehand side, which exposed his backhand more and he obviously didn't like that. Then there is a drop shot too that fairs well against him since he is mostly 2 or 3 feet behind the baseline and/or when he is stretched wide on his forehand. So, after chasing few of those he will need even more then 50 seconds to recover between his serving strokes.

Dutch-Guy
05-19-2009, 03:30 PM
You mean 2006.

That was one amazing match.

Yeah i meant 2006.I got things a lil a bit confused.That was a long ***** match.

wangs78
05-19-2009, 03:35 PM
Did you see what he did to Fed in RG last year.Rafa wanted to finish him off in 70 minutes but he thought sponsors and the public wouldn't like it.So he extended the slaughter a lil a bit.:)

Not sure how he extended it when the last set was 6-0.

Dutch-Guy
05-19-2009, 03:38 PM
Not sure how he extended it when the last set was 6-0.

He didn't close out that set as quick as he 'd have wanted to.

bolo
05-19-2009, 04:05 PM
The thing is Rafa's game is getting well known to other top guys and we see it exploited more and more by each one of them. I think it is a matter of time when this is going to happen (not by any means IF it is going to happen) and from seeing him playing Djokovic last two times, it is going to get only harder.

Federer looked so much like his old self and if he keeps playing the way he played in Madrid, Rafa will have a hard time if they meet in Paris.

The main thing here is that Rafa's opponents are realizing that he is leaving lot of space on his backhand side and all those cross court balls at steeper angle move him so far out of the court that he is basically forced to go for the winner or send a normal ball and then try to chase it to either his backhand side back to the forehand, which is hard to get to if he is already running to the other side. What he was doing in Madrid was to leave a bit less space on his forehand side, which exposed his backhand more and he obviously didn't like that. Then there is a drop shot too that fairs well against him since he is mostly 2 or 3 feet behind the baseline and/or when he is stretched wide on his forehand. So, after chasing few of those he will need even more then 50 seconds to recover between his serving strokes.

I don't think fed's form in madrid is really replicable. It's basically a high risk/high reward strategy, it will work once in a while like in madrid but most of the time it will be like RG 08. But I do think it's his only chance of winning at RG, since his 05-07 style will get him more games on average than the 08 style but very unlikely to get 3 sets playing that way against nadal.

I will look out for what you are saying about leaving more space on his backhand side. His backhand has improved a lot, he used to give up many short balls from his backhand side on hard courts in years past, but now it's quite solid, he gets a lot more depth and can stay in rallies longer with other players' forehands. I agree djokovic is getting closer to nadal, but in 5 sets?, he's not there yet and may never be there at RG. None of the other top guys besides federer and djokovic are near nadal's level on clay right now; federer is not getting any better obviously.

The drop shot? He is going to do what he does at 1:48 in the highlight reel below to all drop shots at RG. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYsiO4hvjM

Gorecki
05-19-2009, 04:14 PM
2005 Auckland
Vs Hrbaty
6-3 RET...


one hell of a marathon!!!