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richied
05-25-2009, 03:02 PM
I know it's very early days, however, Nadal doesn't seem to be his usual self. I think 'If' he starts to drop sets in the early rounds there's definitely something going on. We will have to wait and see!!! Makes it more interesting though...which Nadal will show up???

Breaker
05-25-2009, 03:03 PM
Exhausted Nadal will show up as he always does.

RalphNYC
05-25-2009, 03:18 PM
Yes, I've been saying this but no one will acknowledge. His unforced errors are only part of the story. He's talking to himself, getting flustered quite frequently. Quite a few mis-hits, I'm sure he's struggling physically and wont of course discuss it. He's a having a great year, so that's what his fans will lean on, but I think he's now past his prime. My opinion.

jelle v
05-25-2009, 03:27 PM
It is not very upsetting.. well, it's like Roddick beating Federer in that exhibition, means very little in the grand scheme of things.

I am however, a little surprised with Nadal's game, because even at the Guinot exhibition tourny (against Clement), he seemed a little of his game. Especially the backhand crosscourt didn't seem to work particularly well. Maybe Madrid threw his game of a bit.

Anyway, i'm sure he'll find his form in the coming two weeks. I would be very surprised if Nadal doesn't win Roland Garros.

That's what i said and after today i still have the same opinion about his backhand. His forehand looked a little better, but he was missing more of them too than usual i had the feeling.

Being a Fed fan I hope not of course, but I still think he (Nadal) will Roland Garros though..

T1000
05-25-2009, 03:27 PM
RG is at a higher altitude than it used to be and Nadal doesnt like it

BobFL
05-25-2009, 03:51 PM
He is OK but the pressure is huge. Everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy. Nadal does not like that...

RalphNYC
05-25-2009, 03:55 PM
He is OK but the pressure is huge. Everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy. Nadal does not like that...

Agree that it seems people want Fed win it so he can "complete" his career... but does that give the most pressure to Fed?

Emelia21
05-25-2009, 03:56 PM
He is OK but the pressure is huge. Everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy. Nadal does not like that...

Quite a statement here, everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy :shock: :shock: Who is everyone?

Mick
05-25-2009, 03:57 PM
unfortunately, when you are at the top, you cannot go up anymore but you can go down.

bolo
05-25-2009, 04:03 PM
Agree that it seems people want Fed win it so he can "complete" his career... but does that give the most pressure to Fed?

no. the pressure comes from the fact that the no of opportunities are going down, he is getting older and the opposition in getting better.

babbette
05-25-2009, 04:03 PM
from his blog today

TODAY'S MATCH. Probably with the answers to your questions on this section I have said it all. Not too many questions about my match today and probably it is better like this. I didn't play great, didn't feel that comfortable on the court as I should have but in the end what counts is that I managed to win. I have to say that also last year I had a bad start. Clearly it is not only because of my (me) but also because the way my opponent, Marcos [Daniel] today, played. As I say, I have had slow starts also in previous years and I am fine with it. Sure I need to improve and get better.

don't know what's going on but hopefully it will sort itself out. If not, he's had an amazing run there, nobody can take those achievements away from him.

Gugafan
05-25-2009, 04:06 PM
He was pushed in similar fashion to Belluci last year at the French (1st rd I believe). Subsequently he went on a tear and produced some of the most dominant FO performances I have ever seen. I think its abit too early to say he is 'off his game'.

BobFL
05-25-2009, 04:07 PM
Quite a statement here, everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy :shock: :shock: Who is everyone?

Everyone relevant in the tennis world. You will see very soon...

OddJack
05-25-2009, 04:07 PM
Quite a statement here, everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy :shock: :shock: Who is everyone?

The French

tudwell
05-25-2009, 04:08 PM
My guess is that he's wearing new shoes with thicker souls - thus, he's at a higher altitude, and we all know how altitude interferes with his game.

raiden031
05-25-2009, 04:08 PM
I don't think we can say he's off his game until he starts dropping sets.

BobFL
05-25-2009, 04:09 PM
Agree that it seems people want Fed win it so he can "complete" his career... but does that give the most pressure to Fed?

Yes BUT the pressure will have completely different effect to different people under the same circumstances.

prosealster
05-25-2009, 04:13 PM
there is no need to hit the panic button...the guy won in straights vs some guy he prob never seen him play, in the 1st round...no big deal...before fed showed up....was normal for players to drop multiple sets in winning a major..

babbette
05-25-2009, 04:21 PM
He is OK but the pressure is huge. Everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy. Nadal does not like that...

:roll:............

sh@de
05-25-2009, 05:40 PM
Nadal did make some mistakes today. He was missing some forehands when he was positioned beautifully and not out of balance or anything. I thought it was strange. But maybe he just hasn't gotten into his groove yet. I'd say wait for another 2 or 3 matches before making another judgement.

CalmxPanicked17
05-25-2009, 05:42 PM
if anything he's just getting worn out from his grueling schedule...but I think in the end he'll pull through (at least, i really hope so)

Nadal_Freak
05-25-2009, 05:43 PM
Nadal will get better each round. I think the clay court season has took some out of him but he will rise to the occasion when needed. They really should have a longer break between Miami and Monte-Carlo.

bolo
05-25-2009, 06:09 PM
Nadal will get better each round. I think the clay court season has took some out of him but he will rise to the occasion when needed. They really should have a longer break between Miami and Monte-Carlo.

This is almost the same as 2006 and 2007. Last year he was in his best shape entering RG since 2005 because he lost early in Rome to JCF.

bruce38
05-25-2009, 06:11 PM
Nadal is playing the best to his capability. He's likely going to win.

tacou
05-25-2009, 06:27 PM
I only saw the last set and a half of r128. he seemed alright, not spectacular, but he won i n straights so what else can you ask? hopefully hewitt makes it to 3rd round. that will be an interesting match.

BreakPoint
05-25-2009, 06:53 PM
RG is at a higher altitude than it used to be and Nadal doesnt like it
No, it's because Roland Garros is a brand new tournament played in a brand new stadium and the court is new, rough, uneven, and dusty, and it also plays more like a hardcourt so Nadal doesn't like it.

Nadal also doesn't think a tournament with such different conditions should be played right before Wimbledon. :shock:

Nadal_Freak
05-25-2009, 06:56 PM
No, it's because Roland Garros is a brand new tournament played in a brand new stadium and the court is new, rough, uneven, and dusty, and it also plays more like a hardcourt so Nadal doesn't like it.

Nadal also doesn't think a tournament with such different conditions should be played right before Wimbledon. :shock:
Stop trolling.

fortunecookiesjc
05-25-2009, 06:57 PM
Nadal is such a baby, Did Federer ever complain about things like that?

Nadal_Freak
05-25-2009, 06:58 PM
Nadal is such a baby, Did Federer ever complain about things like that?
He complained about the lighting of the court. Yes he complains plenty.

fortunecookiesjc
05-25-2009, 07:01 PM
I meant like conditions altitudes, courts, scheduling.

GPG
05-25-2009, 07:02 PM
Quite a statement here, everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy :shock: :shock: Who is everyone?

OT:
If we were in a forum I used to visit, you'll be sure that right now somebody with "Everyone" as his nickname would appear

LMAO :lol:

BreakPoint
05-25-2009, 07:04 PM
Stop trolling.
How about YOU stop making excuses for Nadal first? :-?

JeMar
05-25-2009, 07:12 PM
It was one match. This is dumb.

richied
05-25-2009, 07:17 PM
I just think his body language seems different from last year. He appears slightly more on edge than i've seen him in previous French Opens. It's probably nothing! Anyway, I'll be watching his body language in the next few rounds just to see how tired he really is.

Joseph L. Barrow
05-25-2009, 07:17 PM
Only when the standards an individual has set are absurdly high, as is the case with Nadal at the French Open, do people panic and cry that something is wrong after a sound, uneventful straight-sets first-round victory.

delphi17
05-25-2009, 07:31 PM
I meant like conditions altitudes, courts, scheduling.

a complain is a complain.

rafan
05-25-2009, 09:45 PM
I find Nadal is at his best with players he is familiar with. No matter how low down in the ranks a qualifier is I have seen Rafa having to adapt to his game before taking off

coloskier
05-26-2009, 05:40 AM
Stop trolling.

You first....

Blade0324
05-26-2009, 05:51 AM
He is OK but the pressure is huge. Everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy. Nadal does not like that...

Not everyone wants to see Fed win it. I would be disappointed if Fed ever wins RG.

feetofclay
05-26-2009, 05:53 AM
He is OK but the pressure is huge. Everyone wants to see Fed with the trophy. Nadal does not like that...

Not everyone!

BreakPoint
05-26-2009, 10:01 AM
Not everyone wants to see Fed win it. I would be disappointed if Fed ever wins RG.
Did Federer steal Mirka away from you or something? :-?

Why would anyone be disappointed in seeing anyone winning a tournament for the first time? It makes no sense.

jelle v
05-26-2009, 02:36 PM
Did Federer steal Mirka away from you or something? :-?

Why would anyone be disappointed in seeing anyone winning a tournament for the first time? It makes no sense.

Well, if you are a Sampras/anti federer fan.. :oops:

veroniquem
05-26-2009, 02:38 PM
I know it's very early days, however, Nadal doesn't seem to be his usual self. I think 'If' he starts to drop sets in the early rounds there's definitely something going on. We will have to wait and see!!! Makes it more interesting though...which Nadal will show up???
Nadal hasn't dropped a set or been in a TB so far. Maybe this thread is a tad premature?

jms007
05-26-2009, 02:44 PM
Two things:

1) Nadal has been so dominant on clay, that when an opponent gets more than 3 games in a set, people start to raise eyebrows.

2) I would think it's quite normal for top players to drop more games than usual, even if they are way better than their opponent. Unfamiliarity usually favors the underdogs. Hell back in the 90's, it wasn't uncommon for top players to lose their matches to some unknown journeyman.

jelle v
05-26-2009, 02:52 PM
Two things:

1) Nadal has been so dominant on clay, that when an opponent gets more than 3 games in a set, people start to raise eyebrows.

2) I would think it's quite normal for top players to drop more games than usual, even if they are way better than their opponent. Unfamiliarity usually favors the underdogs. Hell back in the 90's, it wasn't uncommon for top players to lose their matches to some unknown journeyman.

It has nothing to do with that.. it has to do with his level of play. And his game just seems a little bit off. Nothing to worry about, since it's the French Open and will last 2 weeks. But currently and for the past 2/3 weeks or so, his game just seems a little bit of.

TennisandMusic
05-26-2009, 02:55 PM
How about YOU stop making excuses for Nadal first? :-?

This from the guy who STILL pulls out the mono excuse when Federer loses! :lol:

jms007
05-26-2009, 02:56 PM
I still think thats part of it though, it's a number of things, not just one explanation. Not even Nadal can keep up 6-2, 6-1 scorelines day and day out in every match. So of course his game will seem off, when he doesn't do that.

drakulie
05-26-2009, 02:57 PM
Nadal hasn't dropped a set or been in a TB so far. Maybe this thread is a tad premature?

Only thing "premature" are the excuses by you, which have already begun:

Nadal still looked a little worn out in his RG first round.

Blinkism
05-26-2009, 03:48 PM
You guys are too worried over nothing.

Let's put it in perspective, by beating Daniel, Nadal has set a new record by winning the most consecutive matches at Roland Garros with 29 (beating Borg's 28 consecutive matches).

Pretty cool, eh?

BreakPoint
05-26-2009, 03:50 PM
This from the guy who STILL pulls out the mono excuse when Federer loses! :lol:
Go tell both Ancic and Isner that mono doesn't affect your tennis no matter how good condition you're in. :-?

If you're just tired from playing tennis, that's your own problem. It means you're out of condition, not that you have a disease that was beyond your control.

miniRafa386
05-26-2009, 03:50 PM
here's what i find a joke- they put venus on chatrier over nadal, hes on lenglen tomorrow

sh@de
05-26-2009, 05:39 PM
here's what i find a joke- they put venus on chatrier over nadal, hes on lenglen tomorrow

WTF???? How can they do that??? What BS :-?.

maddogz32
05-26-2009, 06:19 PM
i think nadal is getting a little nervous. he could become the first or one of the few that have ever won 5 french opens in a row

veroniquem
05-26-2009, 06:24 PM
i think nadal is getting a little nervous. he could become the first or one of the few that have ever won 5 french opens in a row
The 1st. Noone has ever won 5 RG in a row.